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Postgame notes: “I don’t have any particular checklist”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 09, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter

One random thing to notice from today’s game: When the Yankees went into a defensive shift, the third baseman always moved to the other side of second base and Derek Jeter shaded toward third to cover — best he could — the entire left side of the infield. It wasn’t that way in the past with the Yankees, and Jeter said shifting this way is actually more comfortable for him. He’d rather be all alone than at a weird angle.

“It feels worse for me if I’m on the other side of second,” Jeter said. “I’m all thrown off (over there). It’s like looking in a mirror and everything is backwards. That’s why they’re doing it (this way this year). Alex didn’t like it either so I was pretty much forced to do it in the past, but now the guys that are playing third have played second as well. So, it’s a little odd when you’re in close maybe, but it feels better than the other side.”

Heading into tomorrow’s off day, Jeter seems comfortable everywhere this spring. He went hitless today, but he did make several plays in the field, including one ball that he had to charge. He got off to a slow start offensively, but he hit pretty well the previous two games before this one.

“I don’t really have a (check)list now,” Jeter said. “Now I just want to get comfortable. That’s like every other year you’re here. I don’t have any particular checklist that I have; just playing more and more. … I think the more you play, I think the more comfortable you get. I think that goes for everyone, regardless of even if you get hits you may feel uncomfortable. I think you just want to be comfortable. The results are probably the last thing that’s on my mind; it’s just seeing the ball and swinging at strikes and progressing from there. I don’t really look at the results, it’s just a feel thing.”

Last year, Jeter played his first game on this date. This year, he’s already played seven times. He played a total of five spring training games before last year’s setback.

“I feel as though I’ve worked on everything,” Jeter said. “I may not have done it in a game, but I’ve worked on everything. Now it’s just a matter of doing it in games. (Testing himself on new plays) is not something that I think of while I’m doing it.”

David Phelps· I was told today that a few teams have been specifically scouting Francisco Cervelli as a potential trade target. That said, Cervelli’s trade value is seen as fairly limited. A non-Yankees source suggested a team might be willing to trade one of its own out-of-options player for him; basically an excess-for-excess swap. It seems that teams realize Cervelli could be expendable, so they’re checking on him.

· Scheduled for four innings, David Phelps was so efficient that he wound up pitching five scoreless. He threw 59 pitches, 38 for strikes, while allowing three hits, no walks and striking out one. “It’s funny,” Phelps said. “I felt like I had better stuff the other night. It’s just a matter of having the ball down in the zone. I was down in the zone today with my fastball and some other pitches, just getting ground balls. That’s what I’m trying to do. Didn’t get ahead of guys a lot today, but I was fortunate enough that (Brian McCann) was able to walk me through some of those at-bats. He did a really good job of it, figuring out what pitch we could throw.”

· The top five hitters in the Rays lineup were big league regulars. Jose Molina was also in the lineup, as was former Yankees infielder Jayson Nix. That’s seven hitters who were familiar with him, and Phelps said that made this start feel a little more significant. “Guys who have seen me before, it helps me because I can see how my stuff is playing this time, because they’ve seen my stuff,” he said. “It’s good, seeing these guys as many times as I can, just trying to get a better feel about how I want to pitch to them.”

· Speaking of pitching, one more note on Dellin Betances: He said Larry Rothschild has asked him to focus on throwing his changeup a little more often in the bullpen. “I haven’t been able to throw it as much,” Betances said. “My changeup is probably my third pitch. I feel confident with it. I’m just going to keep throwing it. Hopefully next game I’ll get to throw it.”

Alfonso Soriano· The Yankees made their first cuts of the spring, sending injured pitchers Jose Ramirez and Francisco Rondon to the minor league complex. Rondon had a shoulder issue early in camp, and Ramirez is dealing with a sore oblique. Ramirez was technically optioned to Triple-A. Rondon was simply reassigned because he’s not on the 40-man roster.

· One other pitching injury note: Nik Turley said he expects to be shut down for another two weeks or so because his pitching arm is still tight. Tests have shown no damage, but the Yankees don’t want to take any chances. Turley said he’s more frustrated than concerned. He just wants to pitch and there’s this nagging thing keeping him off the mound.

· Kelly Johnson is going to have a massive bruise on his back. It was already raised and red where he was drilled by a pitch this afternoon. Said it knocked the wind out of him. He was lifted for a pinch runner, but Girardi said it was scheduled to be his last at-bat anyway.

· In the field, Johnson actually played a pretty decent first base. And he had to make a bunch of plays. “The (3-6-1) double play ball was good to get,” Johnson said. “Balls like that, you want to have. That’s what I’ve been talking about, about having certain plays happen, the tougher plays. That was one of those. I’m glad that it happened.”

· Dean Anna was charged with his second error of the spring when he had trouble dealing with the sun on a popup. His other error came earlier this spring. It was a throw that was just high enough to pull the first baseman off the bag. For the most part, he’s seemed pretty solid at short, including one dazzling play in the hole.

Jacoby Ellsbury· Although Brendan Ryan said he could play on Wednesday, Girardi clarified by saying Ryan will be reevaluated on Tuesday and will likely be a full player on Wednesday. That could mean nothing more than drills, though.

· Had an opposing scout tell me today that he’s been impressed by Shane Green, Bryan Mitchell and Fred Lewis. That’s the second time Lewis has come up as a pitcher who’s generated some attention this spring. Girardi mentioned Lewis as an early standout yesterday.

· Box score notes: The Yankees and Rays tied at 3. Pinch runner Antoan Richardson scored the tying run on a wild pitch. He’d come in to run for Jose Gil, who singled. … Jacoby Ellsbury’s double was the Yankees only extra-base hit. … Alfonso Soriano had a two-hit day to get his bat going a little bit. Jose Pirela also had two hits. … Strong spring continues for Adonis Garcia who had a hit and a stolen base. That’s his second stolen base. He’s hitting .438. … The Yankees didn’t walk anyone today. Matt Daley and Mark Montgomery each pitched a hitless inning. Bruce Billings allowed two of the three Rays runs (one unearned). Danny Burawa allowed the other (also unearned).

· Final word goes to Girardi: “You’re taking a look at what guys are doing, absolutely. And they’re getting stronger as you see them. They’re able to pitched deeper and go through lineups a couple of times and use all their pitches, and that’s the fair way to evaluate when they get to that point.”

· The final final word is this: Don’t forget we’re doing a chat tomorrow at noon!

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156 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I don’t have any particular checklist””

  1. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Thanks MTU..It’s good to know (Pineda)…Do you think he will beat Phelps for the 5th Starter job?..Or is it too early?

    Thanks for the good wishes

  2. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Thanks Chad…Good to hear Rothchild is asking Dellin to throw the CU

  3. GregD March 9th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Hi Luis

    I think Pineda will be the 5th starter but there is always the issue of his innings limit this year……

    I hope you and your family are safe…..

  4. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Shame, I just sent that cartoon ’77 rendering of me as a split Jays/Yankees fan to Prufrock. Alfred, share it as you see fit mon ami!

  5. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Luis-

    I’m only guessing but I’d say no.

    IMO the Yankees want Pineda to start more than they do Phelps.

    Phelps has proven himself extremely versatile and I think the Yankees like him in the
    Ramiro Mendoza type role.

    In a sense Phelps is a victim of his own versatility.

  6. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Hi Greg,

    Thanks..My immediate family is out of the country…But thanks for the good wishes

    I can live with Pineda being the 5th SP, but I think Phelps deserved it more…Of course, this is my prospect hugger side speaking

  7. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Hey Luis good to see you!

    A lot of good stuff there Chad thank you!

  8. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    MTU,

    Yup… I think they will go that way…In the end, I think Phelps just want to be with the big club, regardless of his role

  9. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Hi Tar!

    Likewise bro!…Yes, very good post from Chad

  10. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    If Pineda starts the year at AAA and stays till ?, do the Yankees gain an another year of control?

    If so, I would think it would be a no brainer to start him in AAA, monitor his innings and bring him up for whatever injury you know is going to pop up.

  11. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Luis-

    Of course he does but I bet he wouldn’t mind starting either.

    I’ve always felt he was under rated. Still do.

    Pineda has a much higher upside. So they go w him 1st.

    Teams have been scouting Phelps. I’d have to think they are liking what they are seeing.

    If the M’s would surrender Franklin for him I’d go for it.

    ;)

  12. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 6:30 pm
    Not sure how many here follow professional tennis, especially the WTA. But I’m watching the future of Women’s Tennis and her name is Eugenie Bouchard. jmills will like the fact that she’s a Canadian. Oh yeah, she’s very easy on the eyes… Man she’s good
    ============================================

    How good is she ?

    Here goes :

    http://hottennisplayers.org/eugenie-bouchard/

  13. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Tar-

    I don’t think they are going to do it that way.

    JMO.

  14. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    You see..That’s a trade I would do

    My only concern is: What if Pineda gets hurt again?..I mean his mechanics are not that good, his move is very violent…But if given the chance, I would grab Frankiln

  15. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    David Phelps is the new Alfredo Aceves.

  16. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Tar,
    they could do that with Pineda …but they have a lot invested in this season already and with it being Jeters last year and win them misdng the playoffs last year I think they are gonna take the best 25 north and if MP is healthy he’s one of them

  17. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Luis-

    Then you spot start either Nuno or Warren.

    Got to make that trade IMO.

  18. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    You grab Franklin and stash him at AAA.

  19. GregD March 9th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    they have to have a plan to limit Pineda’s innings….he’s not going to go to 180 this year

  20. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Speaking of the M’s…How is Noesi doing?…Is he pitching well or at all?

  21. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    David Phelps is the new Alfredo Aceves.

    ——————–

    Hopefully, minus the crazy streak :)

  22. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    With Iwakuma, Walker, and Hultzen down the M’s need a back end SP.

    A guy who can fill in for a month or so.

    Phelps would do extremely well in a big park like Safeco IMO.

    Phelps can then be their swing man when one of those comes back.

  23. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Glenn-

    That goes w/o saying.

    ;)

  24. luis March 9th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 7:43 pm
    David Phelps is the new Alfredo Aceves.

    ——————–

    Hopefully, minus the crazy streak :)

    =================

    That’s a given…The kid is very centered…But funny nevertheless ;)

  25. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Luis-

    I don’t think Noesi is a big part of the M’s plans.

  26. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Phelps for Franklin makes a lot of sense for both teams for me…..Jack Z isn’t the brightest bulb though

  27. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Blake-

    Nope. But one can always hope.

    ;)

  28. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    GregD says:
    March 9, 2014 at 7:42 pm
    they have to have a plan to limit Pineda’s innings….he’s not going to go to 180 this year

    Id think 150ish

  29. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    “I don’t think they are going to do it that way.”

    He’s not going to pitch a full year (200 plus innings) no matter what. So if possible why not keep a year of control?

  30. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    I’ve been a lucky guy. Eugenie Bouchard, who cares ( sort of ), I’ve been blessed with over the top wonderful partners with every bit the competitive edge.

  31. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Blake-

    The M’s have scouted Phelps this Spring.

    The way he is pitching they should come away impressed.

    I hate to lose him but we need those good young IF guys more.

  32. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Id shoot for 150 innings for Pineda then move him to the pen for October

  33. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Tar-

    Because 100-150 innings of a top flight pitcher is worth more than another year of control.

    JMO but I’d think the Yankees would see it that way too.

  34. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Thanks Blake

    I’m not sure of what the cut-off day is where they can keep an extra year (where’s JF?), but it’s not that far into the season.

    Way to early to say now, if he is one of the top 5 SP.

  35. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    “Because 100-150 innings of a top flight pitcher is worth more than another year of control.”

    You don’t have to keep him down the full year, just a small portion of it. So you are not losing a 150 innings, if you really want him o pitch that much. You are losing the difference from opening day to whatever the cut-off day is.

  36. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    I think phelps and Franklin are pretty similar grades of players…..neither project to be stars…..

  37. Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    They already got an extra year of control when they optioned him to the minors after his rehab last year. The only way they can get another year of control is to leave him in the minors for 75% of a season, which they probably should do.

  38. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Phelps is certainly a nice safety net though even if he’s the 6th starter ..somebody will get hurt ….somebody always does for at least awhile and especially with Pineda likely on an in it’s limit you really need to get good value to move phelps

  39. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Nick Franklin :

    “…Another trade option involves current discussions with the New York Mets. The Mets are very interested in the Mariners former first-round pick Nick Franklin. Adding Robinson Cano as the new second basemen has left Franklin now battling for the starting shortstop role.

    Nick Franklin’s natural position is shortstop, but Brad Miller’s production last year at the shortstop position aids the Mariners option of dealing Franklin for pitching. The Mets are in great need for a shortstop and may be willing to trade their starting pitching prospect Rafael Montero.

    Rafael Montero is quietly a rising star in MLB. Even though he stands at only 6 feet tall and 170 lbs, Baseball America has him listed at 68 out of 100 top prospects going into 2014. Montero has great minor league stats going 7-3 for Double-A last year, and then posted a 3.05 ERA when he was called up to Triple-A Las Vegas. Rafael would immediately be in discussions for Mariners back end of the rotation if a trade does occur…”

  40. blake March 9th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    They already got an extra year of control when they optioned him to the minors after his rehab last year. The only way they can get another year of control is to leave him in the minors for 75% of a season, which they probably should do.”

    That long? I don’t think there’s any way they do that

  41. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Off topic :

    I wonder if I could get some feedback from you all.

    As you know I post some of my Photographs here from time to time.

    Would you call the Sandstone photos I post “Rocks” ?

    Of course technically Sandstone is a “rock” but to me it is so much more.

    I consider it to be a colorful, textured, sculpted natural work of art.

    Not just “rocks”.

    And I try to capture it that way.

    What’s your opinion ?

    Just a pretty “rock”, or a natural work of art ?

    Please be honest.

    TIA

    :)

  42. blake March 9th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Franklin can play SS but he’s really a 2B

  43. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    I think Phelps would be an excellent return for the M’s for Franklin.

  44. luis March 9th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    MTU,

    Your picks are a work of art..Granted, those “rocks” are already an unique work of art that only God or nature could have done..But your picks honors their beauty

  45. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Phelps has already proven he can be successful at the ML level.

    And he’s done so in the AL East.

    One of the toughest tests there is.

    Not only that he is versatile.

  46. luis March 9th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    With that said, I bid you all a very good night…I’ve got to go to do my choirs

  47. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    MTU, you know, me and Sylvia Plath give life to anything that remotely resembles a stone. Syvia would stop and give credance to a forgotten piece of broken plastic. I love her!

  48. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    “They already got an extra year of control when they optioned him to the minors after his rehab last year. The only way they can get another year of control is to leave him in the minors for 75% of a season, which they probably should do.”

    That long? I don’t think there’s any way they do that”

    Yeah I didn’t think it was that long either. Probably takes it off the table.

    MTU

    Natural works of art…that happens to be sandstone formations. :D And they are beautiful

  49. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Thank you Luis.

    I have to say I feel a little insulted when someone says something like “nice rock shots”.

    I feel like I have failed if that is all they see from my work.

    And of course it is the Master who has done the important part. My task is to serve.

    I am merely granted the privilege to capture it and to display his glory.

    ;)

  50. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    luis March 9th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
    With that said, I bid you all a very good night…I’ve got to go to do my choirs
    ============================

    Good Luck !

    Keep well !

  51. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Mike – calling sandstone a “rock” is selling it short… While technically correct, not an accurate description… JMO

  52. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Thank you Tar.

    Much appreciated. That makes me feel I am on the right track.

    :)

  53. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Good night Luis… remember – spirits up, head down!

  54. Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Pineda has 2 years 99 days worth of service time.

    Each service year is equal to 172 days. A major league year has 183 service days but it will cap at 172 for any given season. So right now Pineda will need 7 seasons to become a free agent.

    He needs to have less than 1032 service days in 2017 to not become a free agent. That means he has to be optioned for atleast 111 of the possible 183 service days.

  55. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Glenn-

    That is my view as well.

    But I have had people call it “rock”.

    Technically I can not dispute that. But I think that really misses the point.

    It is so much more IMO.

    ;)

  56. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Chase Headley :

    “…It still appears unlikely that the Padres will sign Chase Headley to an extension.

    “This has been a topic for a couple years.

    There’s been dialogue.

    Both sides have tried.

    We just haven’t been able to agree to the essential deal parameters,” says GM Josh Byrnes.

    “There are no active discussions. But the door’s always open…”

    – Jon Heyman

  57. j9d March 9th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    MTU

    I agree with you on Phelps but think we should not trade him. We will need starters this season for the long haul. Pitching depth will be the difference, methinks.

  58. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Take care Luis.

    As always, Vaya con Dios.

  59. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    luis, nite nite, Sylvia sends her best ( she always does to the end and beyond ).

  60. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    j9-

    I can understand that POV.

    I almost share it myself.

    Just think we must make that deal if Franklin is made available for him.

    We would have Nuno and Warren in reserve.

    Should be sufficient IMO.

  61. Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    They could bring Pineda up on August 1st for the stretch run and gain another year of control.

  62. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Here are some examples :

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/TheWhitePocket02?authkey=Gv1sRgCL_Yh4nN7-aVQw#

    Is this just “rock” or is it “art” ?

    You be the judge.

    ;)

  63. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    He needs to have less than 1032 service days in 2017 to not become a free agent. That means he has to be optioned for atleast 111 of the possible 183 service days.

    ———————–

    2017… service time should not be a major consideration at this point. Pineda either helps the rotation or he doesn’t… that’s the question to be answered… JMO

  64. j9d March 9th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    MTU

    I know. It’s a tough call. Would be okay with that but lean slightly toward pitching depth.

  65. mick March 9th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    are those the doctored versions mtu?

  66. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    “They could bring Pineda up on August 1st for the stretch run and gain another year of control.”

    Thanks…I guess it’s just one more figure for the equation of who should be the 5th starter.

  67. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    By the way, people come from all over the World just to see this “rock”.

    ;)

  68. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    MTU, it’s rock and art, it’s obvious. Send anybody over here who doesn’t understand.

  69. pete2 March 9th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    40% of all MLB starters go on the DL list in any given year. The average team uses 8-10 SP’ers through the course of the year, although some of that is poor performance as opposed to DL stints. Barring significant injury to a starting position player I would be surprised if the Yankees traded any starting pitchers who could be expected to help at the MLB level this year.

    Right or wrong, I think the Yankees are set on seeing what those on the current roster can do. The thinking being that among Roberts, Anna, Sizemore, Nunez, Ryan, Jeter, Johnson and Solarte will emerge a league average IF if they get lucky with health. There might be like 20 IF combinations through the course of the year, but so be it. If it does not work out they make a move in June or July if they are still in the race. If a significant injury happens before Drew signs elsewhere, maybe they reconsider him, or maybe they do not.

    The one thing that could change that is if they sign Santana now that he is looking for only 1 yr. They then might be more inclined to trade one of their starting pitchers for an IF’er.

  70. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    mick-

    No sir. Pretty much au naturel.

    :)

  71. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Thanks Mills.

    Thought you guys might grab Ervin.

    Any word ?

  72. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    mick, that ” Little Murders ” film was pretty dark at the end. I expected something more along the lines of, ” Harold and Maude “. Great movie though, thanks mon ami!

  73. Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    For The NY Yankees ( as always ) the future is now and Michael Pineda ( barring some setback ) will be in the starting rotation. 2017 , right there’s nobody in their Front Office how can count that far ahead…..

  74. mick March 9th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    i remember you once said that you applied something to your pix to highlight them.

  75. joeman March 9th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Play Misty for me…

  76. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Santana is like a great big poo that’s never going to happen :(

  77. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Is this just “rock” or is it “art” ?

    You be the judge.

    ———————-

    Sorta like calling Mo a pitcher. Technically correct but woefully lacking. Again, JMHO

  78. mick March 9th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    mills i forget most of the endings since i saw those movies 40 years ago.
    just saw midnight cowboy for what seemed like the 1st time the other night.

  79. tbone1570 March 9th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    MTU,

    A “rock” is something you dig out of the dirt to throw at a neighbor you don’t like. :)

    Your landscapes are definitely “art”.

  80. pete2 March 9th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Read somewhere that the Yankees have the 5th toughest schedule in baseball this year. In April alone they have 11 games against the Red Sox and Rays. They missed the playoffs last year and lost over 50 million in revenue as a result. If Pineda can help the team he is on the roster in April. The focus is on this year to win, at least it should be. Pineda may not even be worth keeping by 2017 if his arm falls off between now and then. Get what you can of him now.

  81. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Santana is like a great big poo that’s never going to happen

    ———————–

    You often see “lol” in blog posts… in this instance, I actually did lol! :)

  82. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    mick-

    Not always.

    In this case if you went to that place on that day I would like to think that is what you would have seen.

    From the eye to the camera.

    It is a truly wondrous place. One of my absolute favorites.

    But then again, I love “rock”.

    ;)

  83. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Thanks for your take T-bone.

    Much appreciated.

  84. UpState March 9th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    joeman March 9th, 2014 at 8:24 pm
    Play Misty for me…

    ===============================

    Misty is playing…..

    Musty ? …. it’s a Musty mystery ….

  85. Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    As our old friend SJ44 used to preach here, The NY Yankees are in the business of winning baseball games !!!!! Shame SJ has zero interest in coming back to The LohUd Zoo

  86. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Midnight Cowboy – I felt so sorry for Jon Voight. He was just trying to make a go of it after all that bloody trauma back home.

  87. comet March 9th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    MTU looks like Art to me. Rocks, not a chance.

  88. mick March 9th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Read somewhere that the Yankees have the 5th toughest schedule in baseball this year.
    ==============================
    No killer west coast trip this year.

  89. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    chicken, thanks, sometimes its nice to be graphic :D

  90. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    I like plain Jane Rocks. Converse with her all the time.

  91. Tar March 9th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    2017 , right there’s nobody in their Front Office how can count that far ahead…..”

    Pat M

    Except if the Name Cano is involved, than winning now is not so important and the Future is of the upmost importance. Haha Just kidding I know what you are saying.

  92. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    And mick.

    Just for your info.

    In the digital Photography age just about every Photographer spends time in front of a computer “processing” their work.

    IMO it is no different from the old school way of working in the darkroom to develop and
    crop or enlarge photos. Different treatments and techniques were applied there too.

    If you don’t think Ansel Adams spent a tremendous amount of time processing his work you would have to guess again. He surely did. Part of the photographer’s job is final prep.

    In some cases the photos are practically perfect straight out of the camera and in others they require a little tweaking to get them where they need to be.

    It’s perfectly acceptable and even necessary sometimes.

    Hope that explains things a bit more.

  93. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Thanks Comet.

    Appreciate the feedback.

    I wonder if anyone has a different opinion ?

  94. joeman March 9th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Okay so ATM, Expecting rain at the outset before dynamic cooling changes to snow…the question then is if we change back during height of storm…
    If I were to guesstimate an all snow line arm. It would be between us rte 4 to us rte 2…mid vt as I think a north trend will be in the mix in the final 48hrs

  95. jmills March 9th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Ansel Adams! He did a shot of silver birches that is to die for!!!

  96. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Mills-

    You would be amazed at how much time Adams had to spend in a dark room.

    People who think that every shot of his was perfect every time would be sadly mistaken.

    It took a lot of hard work and some very good fortune to produce a lot of his shots.

    He used to say that a large part of his secret was “knowing where to stand”.

    He knew his subjects inside out.

    ;)

  97. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Thank you all for your comments.

    I appreciate them.

    And sorry for the off topic subject.

  98. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Pat M.-

    That is a shame because I really miss the insights that SJ brought.

    He had a very unique and knowledgeable perspective.

    I learned a lot from him.

  99. Pat M. March 9th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    MTU…..Both SJ and CB are LoHud goners, although CB will make the out of the blue appearance, but he like so many can only be found in the archives. I’ll pass on your comments though MTU, and by the way I always enjoy your work…..The ” rocks ” comment was kind of funny ,or at least the general reactions

  100. Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    I don’t know that Pineda is so essential to the Yankees winning this year that he must be on the 25 man at all costs. He is coming off of 2 years of 40 innings thrown and a major surgery. If there is no one in the front office concerned with long term planning then they are not the best front office in baseball.

    This will likely be their only chance to get another year of Pineda down the road because he can’t be optioned without consent once he hits 5 years of service time and the Yankees would not option him anyways if he is up and doing well.

    It makes sense to let him get started in the minors. Are we really going to have our 5th starter be a guy that has barely thrown at all in the past 2 years? I feel like Phelps or Warren can do just fine. If you regulate Pineda’s throwing in the minors you can slot him into the rotation in August 1st, get him for the stretch and the playoffs.

    If he starts in the rotation you are risking having a depleted pitcher by the time the stretch comes around, or a guy that needs to be shut down.

    The Yankees are never a club that ever cared about service time but the game has changed and the Yankees need to adapt. Maximizing service time, extensions, etc should all be important.

  101. chicken_stanley March 9th, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    zero interest in coming back to The LohUd Zoo

    ———————–

    A zoo? maybe; probably. A petting zoo? nope.

  102. Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t know if we ever really knew this for sure, but Cashman was interviewed on MLB radio today and said that Russel Martin not being resigned was purely because of the 189 considerations. Said that the past 3 offseasons outside of this last one were all based on getting under the 189 as well.

    Most of us assumed this, but now its straight from the horses mouth.

  103. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Pat M.-

    Thanks. Please do that.

    And thank you for the kind words about the photos.

    Much appreciated.

    :)

  104. bigdan22 March 9th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    pete2 March 9th, 2014 at 8:20 pm
    40% of all MLB starters go on the DL list in any given year. The average team uses 8-10 SP’ers through the course of the year, although some of that is poor performance as opposed to DL stints. Barring significant injury to a starting position player I would be surprised if the Yankees traded any starting pitchers who could be expected to help at the MLB level this year.

    Right or wrong, I think the Yankees are set on seeing what those on the current roster can do. The thinking being that among Roberts, Anna, Sizemore, Nunez, Ryan, Jeter, Johnson and Solarte will emerge a league average IF if they get lucky with health. There might be like 20 IF combinations through the course of the year, but so be it. If it does not work out they make a move in June or July if they are still in the race. If a significant injury happens before Drew signs elsewhere, maybe they reconsider him, or maybe they do not.

    The one thing that could change that is if they sign Santana now that he is looking for only 1 yr. They then might be more inclined to trade one of their starting pitchers for an IF’er.

    —–

    As to your first point about trading starting pitching, I believe you are correct. In fact, with respect to significant acquisitions or trades, I’ve been saying for weeks now the Yanks will only entertain those options if there is an injury to their starters. This will hold true to about June/July when the Yanks will re-evaluate their roster and consider possible upgrades. They will save their tradable assets and the available money in their 2014 budget until then. Should there be at least two starters performing well in Scranton at that time they may consider trading Phelps, who I believe is probably their most valuable trading asset this season. That is assuming of course he’s performing reasonably well in the starting rotation.

    As to their roster, I said back in the middle of December the Yanks were most likely done but for Tanaka. That essentially was what the front office was saying publically. Oddly enough, this off season the Yanks’ front office were remarkably candid on the record. Statements by Hal, Cashman and Eppler were very consistent. In that vein we should continue to believe them and consider Santana not to be an option.

  105. bigdan22 March 9th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    I don’t know if we ever really knew this for sure, but Cashman was interviewed on MLB radio today and said that Russel Martin not being resigned was purely because of the 189 considerations. Said that the past 3 offseasons outside of this last one were all based on getting under the 189 as well.

    Most of us assumed this, but now its straight from the horses mouth.

    —–

    This is consistent with my theory that Hal gave up 189 sometime late last season when it became clear that the farm could not salvage the season. 189 was always contingent on the farm.

    I do continue to maintain, as I have for months, that Hal had always planned, and continues in his plan to reduce payroll. 189 was simply a side benefit. Lowering payroll to a level more consistent with other teams is the goal and the mandate.

  106. blake March 9th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    “I don’t know if we ever really knew this for sure, but Cashman was interviewed on MLB radio today and said that Russel Martin not being resigned was purely because of the 189 considerations. Said that the past 3 offseasons outside of this last one were all based on getting under the 189 as well.”

    So dumb

  107. blake March 9th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    So the Jays didn’t sign Santana?

  108. bigdan22 March 9th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Jerkface March 9th, 2014 at 9:07 pm
    I don’t know that Pineda is so essential to the Yankees winning this year that he must be on the 25 man at all costs. He is coming off of 2 years of 40 innings thrown and a major surgery. If there is no one in the front office concerned with long term planning then they are not the best front office in baseball.

    This will likely be their only chance to get another year of Pineda down the road because he can’t be optioned without consent once he hits 5 years of service time and the Yankees would not option him anyways if he is up and doing well.

    It makes sense to let him get started in the minors. Are we really going to have our 5th starter be a guy that has barely thrown at all in the past 2 years? I feel like Phelps or Warren can do just fine. If you regulate Pineda’s throwing in the minors you can slot him into the rotation in August 1st, get him for the stretch and the playoffs.

    If he starts in the rotation you are risking having a depleted pitcher by the time the stretch comes around, or a guy that needs to be shut down.

    The Yankees are never a club that ever cared about service time but the game has changed and the Yankees need to adapt. Maximizing service time, extensions, etc should all be important.

    —–

    I generally agree with this. I’ve been saying for several days now that Phelps is the most appropriate 5th starter choice to start the season. I still make Phelps a 2 to 1 favorite. But I don’t believe service time will be a factor in the decision. The Yanks are not that strategic in their thinking just yet. But maybe they are getting there. The simple reason is Phelps is just a better choice. He pitched reasonably well last year. He’s pitching well now. And Pineda is coming off a very serious injury. His velocity is still a bit on the low side. Going slow with Pineda is the best course of action.

    And Phelps pitched 5 innings today. Pineda has yet to pitch three. I think the Yanks may have already made this decision.

  109. austinmac March 9th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Jf,

    Interesting that the cap dictating all was acknowledged. Cashman is probably suggesting much of the missed opportunities were not his call. It confirms what most knew but a few didn’t believe.

  110. Shame Spencer March 9th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    austinmac says:
    March 9, 2014 at 9:35 pm
    Jf,

    Interesting that the cap dictating all was acknowledged. Cashman is probably suggesting much of the missed opportunities were not his call. It confirms what most knew but a few didn’t believe.

    —————

    My thoughts exactly… I hope Cash and Co. Are finally back on the same page.

  111. pete2 March 9th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    ” bigdan22 March 9th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    “I do continue to maintain, as I have for months, that Hal had always planned, and continues in his plan to reduce payroll. 189 was simply a side benefit. Lowering payroll to a level more consistent with other teams is the goal and the mandate.”
    =====================================

    Yes. The 2014 payroll is at 2008 levels, despite the fact that revenues and payroll league wide has increased 30%. Hal has essentially sacrificed the Yankees biggest advantage over other teams with a defacto cut in payroll of about 30%.

    Right now my estimate for 2014 has them at 47% payroll per revenue, right exactly at league average. This excludes their take from the YES sale, and their 20% of the profits for YES operations which is roughly 40-50 million a year. If you include the YES profits they are at about 43%. Of course, these are only estimates from Bloomberg, Cotts, and news reports, we don’t know there actual financial situation which could be better or worse.

    Like you say, the farm system is the key to being able to compete without the financial advantage over other teams.

    Its almost like winning is not enough for Hal and perhaps Cashman, realizing they have an advantage over other teams they have handicapped themselves. Of course, other markets look at their almost 500 million in payroll commitments and have no idea what we are talking about, but they had a lot of money come off the books and most of that 500 million is paid in future years.

  112. austinmac March 9th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Shame,

    I already acknowledged missing Mick today and now I am thinking along with you. I must reassess. :)

  113. yankeefeminista March 9th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    Um, are we actually surprised about 189? The dumpster diving ad nauseam was a dead give-away. So, was the build a pitching core and let the offense go to pot, including getting below replacement level at C…

    Chad, great stuff, as usual from the scout remarks on the young pitchers, to the shift, to the Cervelli rumors, to the Dellin pitch selection. Rothschild is smart; Dellin had a really good changeup at one point, but hasn’t thrown it consistently in so long. Like that Larry sees it as another wrinkle out of the RP. Dellin threw a CU in 2010-2011 when we saw him pitch in Trenton, which was flashing plus then.

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  114. Shame Spencer March 9th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    The sound organizational decision would probably be to keep Pineda in the minors until you need him to sub for injury or ineffectiveness. The results we get from the other 4/5ths of the rotation is going to have a much bigger impact on the outcome of the season than the 5th man. If Pineda is the pitcher the Yankees hope he is, he’ll have a chance to throw the ball when it matters most in August-October.

  115. Shame Spencer March 9th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    mac – Are you off your meds today? ;)

  116. yankeefeminista March 9th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ervin_santana/

    blake, last news on Santana. Don’t think anything new…

  117. Shame Spencer March 9th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    I like the idea of Johnson playing first so much more than the idea of him playing third lol.

  118. Shame Spencer March 9th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Kinda interesting that Cash acknowledged what many guessed, but I wonder if the current budget will draw any follow up questions if the INF struggles.

  119. blake March 9th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    YF,
    Thanks…..I was under the impression from earlier that he was basically a blue jay

  120. bigdan22 March 9th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    I think you are correct Pete2 in your belief that cutting payroll is not something new to this Yankee ownership. It’s been going on for years really and is completely independent of 189.

    A few weeks ago when I wrote a number of posts regarding Hal and his gradual assumption of control of the organization, I theorized that his first real contribution when he formally took charge in 2009 was payroll reduction. There were a number of public statements then that you didn’t need to spend $200MM a year to win a championship. That was telling.

    As to how the Yanks relate financially to other teams, I think you and I both realize that determination is quite speculative given the lack of transparency of the business of baseball. I have always believed though that George was quite unique as an owner. For so many years not only did George spend more than anyone else but he spent sometimes 30, 40 or even 50 per cent more than his next highest competitor. I felt then, doesn’t his family (future heirs) and limited partners and minority owners have a problem with that? Sure the value of the franchise was increasing, but stakeholders generally want some return of investment in the form of cash.

    I guess we’ll never really know how George pulled that off, but one thing is very clear. Hal is taking a completely different course than his father.

  121. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    As long as the product on the field doesn’t suffer I don’t care what Hal does.

    When and if it does we all should be concerned.

    Getting Tanaka was an important milestone this year.

    ;)

  122. tucker March 9th, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    The cost cutting started after they won the series in 2009. They began trading prospects rather than pursuing free agents. And it was somehow a mystery that the farm couldn’t pick up the slack last year when aging vets fell to injury? It could not because the best parts already were traded away so Hal didn’t have to spend in the offseasons of 2009, 10, 11 and 12.

    There was nothing left in the cupboard after 2013, so Hal had to spend or face the real prospect of declining revenue through lower attendance, ratings, concession sales and corporate sponsorships.

  123. Hankflorida March 9th, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    Right or wrong, I think the Yankees are set on seeing what those on the current roster can do. The thinking being that among Roberts, Anna, Sizemore, Nunez, Ryan, Jeter, Johnson and Solarte will emerge a league average IF if they get lucky with health. There might be like 20 IF combinations through the course of the year, but so be it. If it does not work out they make a move in June or July if they are still in the race. If a significant injury happens before Drew signs elsewhere, maybe they reconsider him, or maybe they do not.

    Big Dan, this is a very concise analysis of Yankee planning. They would prefer to go with the known quantities of Roberts, Johnson, Jeter and Nunez with Ryan for defense in late innings. If injuries occur, Solarte and Anna will have a minor league portfolio for 2014 to see who takes the ride up North. I really do not know what to expect from this team as there are unknowns in the equation. It was a different feeling in 2012, but last year, before the season began there was also uncertainty about Suzuki and Gardener playing together, the signing of Youk, Cerveii catching and the starting rotation. Compared to last year, the equation for success is not as complicated, and the 2013 team did compete for the 2nd Wildcard down to the wire.

  124. MTU March 9th, 2014 at 11:11 pm

    Time to turn things over to night crew.

    See you all for the breakfast club.

  125. pete2 March 9th, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    Tucker. As I have pointed out many times while Hal did spend, he has almost managed to cut the payroll quite a bit this year. Last year was actually their highest payroll + tax ever, although in nominal terms that was probably 2005

    The Yankees had prospects and young players like Pineda, but they all got injured or did not develop as expected. The Yankees were not really expecting to tap heavily into the minor league pool last year, but injuries to Tex and Granderson, and Jeter being unable to comeback as expected exposed the system, and injuries to back ups exposed it even more. The one prospect given a shot did not really produce as expected (Romine), which happens sometimes with rookies.

    What best parts did they trade anyways that could have helped last year? Jackson landed Granderson. Montero was a bust. Kennedy, maybe, but does he produce like he did in the AL East?

    Last year at this time the Yankees had the 10th best farm system. Took a big fall with the injuries and setbacks, but could easily take a big bounce up with a good year.

    The farm and young guys might be a big contributor this year pitching wise, and some of the catching prospects will be useful trade bait to fill holes in mid season.

  126. tucker March 9th, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    Pete, last year was desperation spending. If they had properly planned to offset the declining offense by signing somebody like Cespedes or Puig, they would not have been forced to make the desperate moves that they did last season. They took on Vernon Wells’ contract but structured the trade in a way so there’d be little to no impact in 2014. Same thing with the Soriano trade. And the Ichiro signing was not a baseball move — it was an effort to rev up the post-Matsui Japanese fan base to get more revenue.

    The Montero trade has been debated ad nauseum here. My chief complaint was not that they traded Montero, but that they used their best trading chip to secure a pitcher when their offense was clearly on the decline. It does not matter that Montero has been a bust so far. At the time, he had value.

    Imagine if the Yanks signed. Matt Holiday in 2010? They could have had an outfield of Holiday, Gardner/Ajax and Swisher.

    Yes, Hal has spent some money on pitching. They resigned Andy Pettitte, extended CC and added Kuroda. But the budget prevented the Yanks from taking a chance. They refused to seriously pursue guys like Darvish, Cespedes and Puig.

  127. As Ive been saying 4 weeks March 9th, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    As I’ve been saying for weeks, Bigdan22 and Pete2 are the same person. Cute conversation he had with himself tonight. Weird.

  128. Hankflorida March 10th, 2014 at 12:03 am

    May I close with this thought that Cashman admitting that he did not sign Martin because of the cap verifies that his blueprint to play two tablesetters, Suzuki and Gardener, together in the outfield going against the history of our championship teams last year was also concocted because of the cap. All of us who could not understand this move and called it a money issue have been vindicated. Cashman has to stick to the formula that worked in the past for putting the pieces together as our new stadium is not that different from The House that Ruth Built, and I was fortunate to have sat in the Bambino’s place when it was as old as a teenager.

  129. pete2 March 10th, 2014 at 12:54 am

    4 weeks. Was it the 2 in our names that gave it away? As a multiple of 2 and the sum of the two 2′s in 22, you might be me, or is it us?

  130. PhiltheThrill March 10th, 2014 at 1:36 am

    The best way for the Yanks to get cheaper at the big league level was to spend more an better in the draft and IFA before the rules changed. They didn’t and now they are paying for it.

  131. UnKnown March 10th, 2014 at 2:08 am

    “I don’t know if we ever really knew this for sure, but Cashman was interviewed on MLB radio today and said that Russel Martin not being resigned was purely because of the 189 considerations. Said that the past 3 offseasons outside of this last one were all based on getting under the 189 as well.”

    This :shock: followed by an :roll:

    I guess the Lohud faithful weren’t so far off base as the FO yuppies make it seem. Shockingly you don’t have to be in the board room to know the discussions. You just need a brain.

  132. Poetkiosk March 10th, 2014 at 5:50 am

    On a totally unrelated note – Tanaka sure does use twitter a lot – what the hell is he saying??!!

  133. tomingeorgia March 10th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Did daylight saving time empty out the joint?

  134. Shame Spencer March 10th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Not quite, tom. :D

  135. tomingeorgia March 10th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Morning, Shame!
    Since it’s a day off for the Yanks, the beat guys are probably going to the beach.

  136. MTU March 10th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Morning Folks.

  137. Shame Spencer March 10th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    And who can blame them? In NYC there were snow flurries this morning. :(

    :arrow:

  138. MTU March 10th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    El Nuevo ——–>

  139. blake March 10th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    “The best way for the Yanks to get cheaper at the big league level was to spend more an better in the draft and IFA before the rules changed. They didn’t and now they are paying for it.”

    yup….but they passed on the best international guys like Soler and Cespedes etc because they required big league deals and Hal wouldn’t spend any 2014 money.

    It was all so penny wise pound foolish……in essence they made it impossible to every get under 189 and contend…..had they made smart decisions then maybe they could have done it.

    For example….had they signed Darvish 2 years ago then maybe they don’t need Tanaka now…..Darvish is like 13 million less in AAV than Tanaka ended up being.

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