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Tuesday postgame notes: Early cutter results positive for Sabathia

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 11, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Taking his new cutter into a game for the first time, CC Sabathia seemed happy with the results. He guessed that he threw eight of nine of them, and none were problematic.

“None of them got put in play, so I guess that’s a plus,” Sabathia said. “They either yanked it foul or just took it. I don’t know how hard it was; (might have been) around the same as my slider, but I want it to be a little harder than that.”

Essentially, the cutter does the opposite of Sabathia’s two-seamer, giving him the ability to throw a fastball with movement to either side of the plate. Used to be, when he wanted to go hard inside to a right-hander, he had to use his four-seamer. Now he can us a cutter to add a new element.

“I’ll still go in with the four-seamer, too,” Sabathia said. “It’s just to give it a different look. Sometimes I can freeze a guy with a four-seamer, just stay straight when they’re looking for a cutter. I’ll continue to throw both. … As long as I keep it in perspective and not try to overthrow it, it can be a good pitch for me. I don’t know if it’s going to come right away, or if it’s going to be something that’s going to take me a whole season. When I first started throwing my slider, I was able to pick it up right away and I took it right into a game. We’ll see.”

Brian McCann said he was happy with Sabathia’s ability to get the cutter inside.

“I think once he gets a better feel when to go more in and when to throw more on the plate (it will be even better),” McCann said. “But I thought it looked good today. It will help him command both sides of the plate. You get something to come in to righties, and then you get something going away from them. It’s kind of a change of speed for them.”

As an unexpected bonus, Sabathia said his slider has gotten tighter and better since he started throwing the cutter. But the pitch is about improving his breaking ball, it’s clearly about giving him a new dimension for a fastball that’s lacking some velocity. Sabathia said he’s not going to throw the pitch just to throw it this spring. He wants to use it in the proper situations, and he has no plans of getting rid of it any time soon.

“I’m definitely going to keep using it and keep going,” Sabathia said. “That’s something me and Andy (Pettitte) talked about, not getting frustrated with it, because it is a tough pitch to throw. So I’m going to stick with it.”

Eduardo Nunez, Tyler Moore· Mark Teixeira still has not swung and missed, he hasn’t checked his swing, and he hasn’t truly turned on an mid-90s fastball in on the hands. But he said the more he plays down here, the less those feel like significant milestones for his surgically repaired right wrist. “I’ve swung at good pitches, I’m taking good swings, my BP’s have been solid,” Teixeira said. “Nothing has happened that I’ve said, let’s re-assess something. It’s boring, but it’s good.”

· Joe Girardi said Brendan Ryan swung a broomstick at Steinbrenner Field today. That’s an ease-into-it step back from that mild oblique problem. Sounds like Ryan will likely do more tomorrow. Still seems to be very little concern about the injury.

· According to The Associated Press — which stayed behind in Tampa to watch all of Masahiro Tanaka’s sim game — Tanaka faced 18 hitters and had nine strikeouts. Jake Cave actually took him deep once. “His split was supposed to be really good today,” Girardi said.

· Girardi acknowledged that McCann might not have made a trip like this if he weren’t the new guy. “We’re trying to get him to know our starters, trying to pick up our starters,” Girardi said. No surprise that McCann will catch Sabathia again on Sunday in Panama.

· This was kind of interesting: Sabathia wouldn’t go into detail, but he said McCann picked up on something mid-game and suggested Sabathia make a correction that yielded immediate results. “I can tell we’re going to be able to work together really good,” Sabathia said. “I think we’ll be fine.” Sabathia’s not the first Yankees pitcher to say something like that. Seems McCann has already won the respect and the trust of the staff.

Tyler Moore, Brian McCann· McCann said he had no idea what had happened on the popup when Dean Anna — coming in from third base — stumbled and crashed into McCann’s legs, sending both players sprawling to the dirt. Turns out, Anna had tripped on McCann’s discarded face mask. “I told Anna, ‘Around here, we wrap up when we make tackles; we don’t just dive for people’s legs,’” Girardi said.

· McCann said he never called for the collision popup (which was just slighly up the third-base line, but not really where Anna had any realistic chance of catching it). I was waiting to get called off,” McCann said. He also said he’d never been knocked down by a teammate on a popup. If this were last season, given the Yankees luck, both guys would have been headed for the 60-day.

· Girardi announced a few more position players who are making the trip to Panama: McCann, Anna, Derek Jeter, Brett Gardner, Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Beltran, Yangervis Solarte, Zelous Wheeler, John Ryan Murphy, Gary Sanchez and Jose Gil. Girardi said he’s honestly not sure which pitchers are making the trip. He knows Sabathia and Adam Warren are the Panama starters, but the rest of the pitching decisions were left entirely up to Larry Rothschild.

· Teixeira on the reason he’s not going to Panama: “We talked about it from day one, that the Panama training room wasn’t ideal. I need a lot of extra work. I’m still doing rehab and strengthening things, getting treatment every single day, and we wanted to make sure I stayed on that schedule.”

· Box score notes: The Yankees lost 3-2, with all three Nationals runs coming in the first three innings off Sabathia. Matt Daley, Jim Miller, David Herndon, Cesar Cabral and Brian Gordon combined to allow just one hit through five scoreless innings of relief. Daley, Miller and Herndon each had a strikeout. Gordon, who allowed the hit, had two strikeouts. … Eduardo Nunez tripled and scored a run. … Dean Anna and Brett Gardner had the two RBIs for the Yankees. Anna’s was a two-out RBI single. Gardner’s was a sac fly. … Yankees had only four hits. Of course Yangervis Solarte had one of them. Batting average is back up to .611 (he was into the .500s for a while, that slacker). The other Yankees hits were Anna’s RBI single, Nunez’s triple and a Zoilo Almonte double.

· Might as well give the final word to Teixeira: “I’m still very excited. I had fun today, just running around. Usually spring training games are boring at this point in your career — they really are at this point in your career — but I’m enjoying myself, which is good. Hopefully this lasts all season long.”

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63 Responses to “Tuesday postgame notes: Early cutter results positive for Sabathia”

  1. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    Santana isn’t really a no brainer when the Yanks have two gaping holes in the infield they need to address first.

    They have capable options as their 5th starter, but not at 2B and 3B.

  2. Jerkface March 11th, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Blake was talking about a no brainer for the Braves, not the Yanks.

  3. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Gotcha. My bad.

  4. kd March 11th, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    from last thread: i would make that trade in a hearbeat. castro’s 23. put him in a clubhouse with jeter and have posada call him after every game and he won’t have discipline issues. the cubs lack clubhouse leadership, not something the yankees lack

    he’s a talent and could solidify a position that you really can’t address through free agency.

    that being said, i doubt the cubs move him now

  5. BoJo March 11th, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    JF–earlier today you mentioned CC’s mechanics are the same as 10 years ago according to CC’s comment about the video analysis that was done this off-season. You left out the part where he said the only difference was in his hip rotation. It is not as big or fast as it was then.

    I’ve mentioned before that I watched an analysis of Chapman and how he generates velocity on Youtube. The experts there commented that hip rotation degree and speed are huge factors in generating velocuty.

    This may be the issue with CC.

  6. Ys Guy March 11th, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    I dont think the Cubs would even consider that package.

    Sanchez + Phelps + Betances would be more like it from their side.

  7. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    Ys – my trip has been moved up to next week… I reached out to Chad. Keep an eye on your email

  8. Ys Guy March 11th, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    ok chicken. Just cooked up some New Orleans Red Beans & Rice to serve with some Andouille! Thats a good lunch, I garoontee!

  9. pete2 March 11th, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Until we see more from CC I can’t entertain any trade of any pitcher, unless its for a pitcher.

  10. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    “Until we see more from CC I can’t entertain any trade of any pitcher, unless its for a pitcher.”

    Thanks Brian.

    I’ll pass the word along to the other GM’s.

    :)

  11. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    Ys – looking forward to it!

    Pete2 – Thanks for the Surface RT post last night. It was new info for me… I’ll experiment and see if I can get MLB.TV going.

  12. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    kd March 11th, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    from last thread: i would make that trade in a hearbeat. castro’s 23. put him in a clubhouse with jeter and have posada call him after every game and he won’t have discipline issues. the cubs lack clubhouse leadership, not something the yankees lack

    —-

    This isn’t to pick on you specifically but I read this line of reasoning a lot in this forum regarding players with alleged character or discipline issues but I think most of the time it’s nothing more than wishful thinking.

    Jeter, Posada, Mo, Pettitte, etc, etc, isn’t going to stop any player from hanging himself or getting into trouble whether its A-Rod, Cano, Cervelli, Montero, or Castro.

    I happen to like Castro and I hope the Yanks make a real attempt to get acquire him. But I think assuming that Player X or Y is going to right the ship or mature overnight simply because Jeter is in the clubhouse seems to be a bit naive to put it mildly.

  13. kd March 11th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    gf,

    i agree, to an extent. this is what i know: i was a total idiot when i was 23. if i had millions of dollars then, it might have been out of control. what kept me in line was accountability when i was in grad school. i think it really helps to have a clubhouse culture of giving your all and being accountable to do so. these really are kids playing

    i don’t think it’s a night and day difference, but i think it helps. castro is a talented kid who could blossom. if he does, that contract is a steal

  14. blake March 11th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Yea I was talking about for the Braves. They are a win now team to some degree ….and th

  15. blake March 11th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    And their rotation is turning into shambles ….they need an arm

  16. Hans Davenport March 11th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    I happen to like Castro and I hope the Yanks make a real attempt to get acquire him. But I think assuming that Player X or Y is going to right the ship or mature overnight simply because Jeter is in the clubhouse seems to be a bit naive to put it mildly.

    A very sane, sound, realistic statement. I commend you for making it. I agree 100%. Naïve, yes that is putting it mildly.

  17. blake March 11th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    “I happen to like Castro and I hope the Yanks make a real attempt to get acquire him. But I think assuming that Player X or Y is going to right the ship or mature overnight simply because Jeter is in the clubhouse seems to be a bit naive to put it mildly.”

    Well you don’t assume that but it can’t hurt…..you go after him because of the talent. Would Cano have ever turned out as good as he did if he grew up in another organization? You know the yanks catch a lot of flack for their player development but in Cano’s case I’m not sure he becomes what he is today anywhere else…..the Yankees taught him how to work ….and the work made him what he is

  18. Cashmoney March 11th, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Is Medlen Brave’s de facto ace blake?

  19. Tar March 11th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    The Yankees trade away guys with “make-up” issues…. not trade for them.

  20. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    Tar-

    If you don’t want Castro can I have him please ?

  21. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Cashmoney says:
    March 11, 2014 at 7:59 pm
    Is Medlen Brave’s de facto ace blake?

    Uhm maybe…..Teheran and minor are better IMO but losing Medlen hurts……they need to replace him with more than Freddy G…..especially since Beachys elbow is acting up again and I believe Minor is a little banged up as well.

  22. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Tar says:
    March 11, 2014 at 8:00 pm
    The Yankees trade away guys with “make-up” issues…. not trade for them.

    I think Arod is probably the only guy that wore makeup…..Ellsbury might

  23. Tar March 11th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    “If you don’t want Castro can I have him please ?”

    I didn’t quite say that MTU. Just how I believe the organization thinks.

    Not sure how I feel about Castro personally. I do think young infielders being a priority is a sound policy at this point.

    I really like Ackley he is one I would love for them to pursue.

  24. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Blake-

    Didn’t Beachy already have TJS or am I confusing him w another Braves SP ?

  25. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    MTU says:
    March 11, 2014 at 8:11 pm
    Blake-

    Didn’t Beachy already have TJS or am I confusing him w another Braves SP ?

    Yup last year

  26. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Blake-

    And his elbow is bothering him again ?

  27. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    I really like Ackley he is one I would love for them to pursue.

    —————————

    I’m ok with Ackley; even if he was a ‘heel :)

  28. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    http://beta.sportingnews.com/a.....oogle.com/

    MTU here is the link….doesn’t sound great. Beachy is too muscle bound IMO

  29. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    “I really like Ackley he is one I would love for them to pursue.”

    Of course you would Tar.

    ;)

  30. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Blake-

    That is a very bad sign.

  31. Tar March 11th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    “I’m ok with Ackley; even if he was a ‘heel”

    Ohhhh was he a Heel…who knew. :D

  32. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    I really would love to get Ackley and see what he could do rebooted away from Death Valley

  33. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Blake-

    May as well Smoak too.

    ;)

  34. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    Right now the Braves rotation is Teheran and Minor and pray for rain

  35. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    Blake-

    Hardin was another really talented muscle-bound type that could not stay healthy.

  36. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Ohhhh was he a Heel…who knew

    —————–

    college allegience can certainly cloud your judgement (at least for me)… For example, my infatuation of Mark Reynolds and David Adams! :)

  37. blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    MTU,
    These pitchers with Jacked upper bodies don’t seem to last long….the muscles exert too much force on the ligaments and tendons IMO. Big strong legs good…..but pitchers should keep their upper bodies to their natural size…..and lean and flexible. You don’t see Verlander showing off his biceps…..and he dates kate Upton cause he throws 100 mph

  38. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Right now the Braves rotation is Teheran and Minor and pray for rain

    —————————

    If its gonna stick, you’ve gotta come up with a rhyme (Spahn, then Sain, and pray for rain)… maybe Minor, Then Teheran, and our win streak is gone… (it rhymes when spoken in my southern drawl but probably not otherwise :) )

  39. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Blake-

    Verlander can show off his wallet.

    ;)

  40. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    kd March 11th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    gf,

    i agree, to an extent. this is what i know: i was a total idiot when i was 23. if i had millions of dollars then, it might have been out of control. what kept me in line was accountability when i was in grad school. i think it really helps to have a clubhouse culture of giving your all and being accountable to do so. these really are kids playing

    i don’t think it’s a night and day difference, but i think it helps. castro is a talented kid who could blossom. if he does, that contract is a steal

    —-

    Yep, I’m with you on that.

    I think most of us were idiots at the age of 23, and if I had the deep pockets than athletes do today, I probably would have taken idiocy to extraordinary levels.

    There aren’t many Jeters out there. He happens to be the exception to the rule. Sure, his presence in the clubhouse can’t hurt, but it’s ultimately up to the youngster to make that choice.

  41. Tar March 11th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    “college allegience can certainly cloud your judgement (at least for me)… For example, my infatuation of Mark Reynolds and David Adams!”

    College allegiance just means I am familiar with how good he is. He had .412 .648 .487 career slash college average so yeah he had my attention. I just believe the kid is way better than he has shown so far. He can play 2nd, OF and even slip into the back up 1b role.

  42. chicken_stanley March 11th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Tar: Don’t take me the wrong way – I’m up for Ackley

  43. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    blake March 11th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    “I happen to like Castro and I hope the Yanks make a real attempt to get acquire him. But I think assuming that Player X or Y is going to right the ship or mature overnight simply because Jeter is in the clubhouse seems to be a bit naive to put it mildly.”

    Well you don’t assume that but it can’t hurt…..you go after him because of the talent. Would Cano have ever turned out as good as he did if he grew up in another organization? You know the yanks catch a lot of flack for their player development but in Cano’s case I’m not sure he becomes what he is today anywhere else…..the Yankees taught him how to work ….and the work made him what he is

    —-

    Obviously, we’ll never know the answer to that.

    But, in the end, the Yanks obviously didn’t love everything about Cano and his leadership because they passed on making a concerted effort to keep him and didn’t want him becoming the face of the franchise.

  44. tomingeorgia March 11th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    GF,
    It’s helpful to cure idiocy at age 23 to get shot at by people who know what they are doing, not making millions playing shortstop.

  45. j9d March 11th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Sitting in my place in Chelsea on a warm and sunny day (okay sun has set but a great day for thawing out). So energized for the season. Regarding all the handwringing, we shall see. You really just don’t know. Lots of questions and uncertainty about 2009 yet we who it all. It’s sort of a crapshoot. We all know that. Let’s enjoy the season.

  46. Pat M. March 11th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    To read a comment complaining about Castro’s contract is coming from the same guy who is absolutely gone ga-ga about The Yanks doling out 173 million for a pitcher who is unproven . Castro is several years younger, a two-time All-Star who just happens to play shortstop. Weak, very weak. Yanks would immediately be a better ballclub with Starlin Castro in their lineup. The benefits would out weight anything they did this winter by a wide margin . Dude, you have to look at the game from a 360 degree perspective

  47. Giuseppe Franco March 11th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    tomingeorgia March 11th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    GF,
    It’s helpful to cure idiocy at age 23 to get shot at by people who know what they are doing, not making millions playing shortstop.

    —–

    Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your argument, but I want them to acquire Castro.

    I just think whether Castro matures in a Yankee uniform or not probably will have little to do with Jeter ruling the clubhouse with an iron fist.

  48. Jerkface March 11th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    And loving Ellsburys deal while deriding Canos is equally as weak. I wouldn’t be that opposed to them trading for Castro but he is pretty iffy given the concerns on both sides of the ball. Tanaka is simply unproven, not coming off one of the worst seasons a regular could have.

  49. Jerkface March 11th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Castro is an interesting player, but he hardly walks at all and strikes out a ton while making constant mental errors at the plate, on the bases, and in the field. He is definitely a work in progress. Hits into a ton of DPs, doesn’t really get on base, 20+ errors guaranteed at short.

    He isn’t a silver bullet at short stop, but none of the guys the Yankees could possibly bring in would be. I’d just be wary of trading 2 guys that could help this year for him.

  50. Jerkface March 11th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Starlin Castro is also the award winner for the first ever Starlin Castro Triple Crown: Errors, Caught Stealings, and Outs made.

    Won the award in 2012.

  51. Pat M. March 11th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    And how old is Castro ??? 24 with 700 nits already in the MLB. Sign me up, besides he played hurt last season. He’d be a foundation block for The NY Yankee’s future

  52. Pat M. March 11th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Lampost a drunk, Vince Scully and Jerkface.. Keep playing with your spreadsheet Face I’m certain you’ll find some other nonsense in a failed attempt to prove your rubbish point of view. Recommendation, watch Castro play maybe you”’ learn something. Just as I told about Pineda when he came to The Yanks, looking a your spreadsheet and watching him pitch is night and day

  53. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    I’m like a fatboy on pie when it comes to Castro.

    I’d trade for him in a NY microsecond.

    ;)

  54. Ys Guy March 11th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    blake March 11th, 2014 at 8:17 pm
    Right now the Braves rotation is Teheran and Minor and pray for rain
    =================================
    I think Alex Wood is going to be very good. But he will be limited to about 160 innings.

    And there are 3 very weak hitting teams in the NL East.

  55. MTU March 11th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    New one ——->

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    CC may think that he he will play the roll of Andy Pettitte with his new cutter, but to me, it looked more like he was doing a good imitation of Al Leiter’s when he lost his velocity. Anyone agree or am I seeing the glass half empty?

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