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On the move: Refsnyder improving at second as he climbs the ranks

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 14, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Rob Refsnyder

It was sometime before his junior year at the University of Arizona that Rob Refsnyder began getting serious attention from professional scouts. He’d been a productive college outfielder. He went to the Cape Cod League and played well. His bat showed significant pro potential. Scouts came calling, and many of them had the same suggestion.

They wanted Refsnyder to start taking ground balls. His bat would play, they thought, but it wasn’t ideal for a right fielder. That bat in the hands of a second baseman, though, had real promise.

Refsnyder politely declined.

Refsnyder“It was a certain thing where, I had respect for our second baseman at the time out in Arizona, and mostly respect for my coach,” Refsnyder said. “I think I slid down the draft board strictly because I didn’t take the opportunity to take infield and outfield (drills) because I thought it was disrespectful to care more about your draft stock than winning and things like that. If I would have gone up to coach (Andy) Lopez and asked to take infield and outfield, he would have said some choice words to me. I knew going into the draft that was something I was probably going to have to do.”

When the Yankees made Refsnyder their fifth-rounder in the spring of 2012, Refsnyder wound up exactly where he knew he’d be eventually. The Yankees left him play out that first half season as an outfielder, but the inevitable conversion came from the very beginning of 2013. Refsnyder played second base every day through Low-A and High-A last season.

Aside from a handful of games his freshman year of college — when Arizona’s regular second baseman was hurt — Refsnyder had never played the infield. And it showed. He made 25 errors last season; 15 of them before May 20, only two in his final month.

“I feel like, to be a successful baseball team, the middle infield’s got to be really, really solid,” Refsnyder said. “Last year, it was just so new, so I was learning on the fly. Every game I would learn something new. I’d have some experienced guys like Cito Culver and Ali (Castillo) kind of help me out. Really, when I say I had no experience, I had no experience. I’d come in the dugout and Luis (Sojo, the Tampa manager) would tell me something. I’d try to program it and go back out there, so it was definitely a learning experience, but I enjoyed it.”

Complete lack of infield experience is fairly rare in professional baseball, if only because so many top athletes are automatically plugged in as shortstops in high school. Even a lot of top pitching prospects get time at shortstop or third base in high school. Refsnyder might have done that as well, but he was also a high school basketball player and a standout football player. Baseball was more of a seasonal thing for him.

“I didn’t really have time to learn (in high school) because infield is really complicated, really complex,” Refsnyder said. “So I was just thrown into the outfield.”

In pro ball, he was thrown to the wolves.

The Yankees, though, have been happy with Refsnyder’s progress. Vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman confirmed that the organization plans to move Refsnyder up to Double-A Trenton to start this season. It will be only Refsnyder’s second full year as a professional, but he was an advanced hitter out of college, he’s improved at his new position, and last season he hit .293/.413/.413 between Low-A Charleston and High-A Tampa. The bat is as advertised. The glove is coming along.

It’s a still a learning process, though. Refsnyder said that just this spring he saw Chase Utley charge a ground ball, one that Refsnyder would have stayed back on. He’s still figuring out things like that — the angles to take, when to be aggressive, the timing on certain plays — but this winter, he never picked up an outfielder’s glove. He said he feels like a second baseman now.

And wouldn’t you know it, second base just happens to be a position that’s suddenly wide open for a future in the Bronx.

“I understand the game,” Refsnyder said. “I understand that the corners are supposed to hit for more power. I understand that’s part of the game, that’s how general managers see it and things like that. I was always told, if you can hit, they’ll find a position. But if you can play middle infield and hit, that makes (a player) more valuable.

“Really, I’m easy. I’ll do whatever the coaches say, and I’ll work extremely hard at whatever they want me to do. I know at the end of the day, second base will help. I’m enjoying it, being close to the diamond and being a part of every play. If a team decides to move me back to the outfield, I’m comfortable with that. You won’t ever hear me complain. As long as I’m playing and enjoying baseball, that’s all I care about.”

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241 Responses to “On the move: Refsnyder improving at second as he climbs the ranks”

  1. CountryClub March 14th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Callis mentioned earlier this week that he thinks Refsnyder could be adequate to average at 2nd. So he probably has a future if his bat holds up.

  2. Cashmoney March 14th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    The next Prime Time?

  3. tomingeorgia March 14th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    You have to like the kid’s attitude.

  4. yanks61 March 14th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Very interesting discussion vis-à-vis Pineda.

    I just checked over at RAB to see what might be going on over there and Axisa’s latest thread is all about the same thing. And Mike is riding on the Pineda train. His analysis bears reading.

  5. UpState March 14th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Against All Odds March 14th, 2014 at 4:23 pm
    Francesa: It would be fascinating if someone did an analysis on the Yankees from 96-03 to 04-12 in terms of playoff success? What are the biggest differences between those two eras? One team had 6 WS appearances and 4 wins while the other had 1 appearance and 1 win. It’s not easy to just say it’s one thing.

    Thoughts? Ideas?
    =========================================

    All Core 4 years … Mariano years…who was his EIG each year and how’d they do that year ?

    …then maybe look at the rest of the pen and how they did that year ?

    Who was in their ‘walk year’ and how’d they do ?

  6. ac1 March 14th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Refsnyder and Katoh both have potential.
    Jaieglo has potential at 3rd.
    Greg Bird at 1st
    Williams in the OF (Austin in OF or 3B)
    Murphy and Sanchez at C

    All of these guys are past the whole sub-par minor league type hype.
    It would be very refreshing to look at the IF in a couple years and see

    1B-Bird
    2B – Refsnyder or Katoh
    3B – Jaieglo or Austin
    OF – Gardner, Ellsbury and Williams/Austin
    C – McCann and Sanchez (McCann splitting at 1B and DH)

    I know it is unlikely all make it, but it would be refreshing.

    Still unknown – SS
    – I will still assume we are going to trade sometime in the future for Tulo.

  7. blake March 14th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    “The Hulk has built in drama, which makes him way better than Superman. Superman has no drama. He is 100% invincible and all powerful. He is a mary sue character.”

    he’s susceptible to kyptonite and also magic…..and you can hurt his feelings too

  8. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    “The Yankees budget this year should be reason enough for why having Pineda under team control for longer is better than not having him. I don’t see why having a player have a moderated build up of innings in AAA is a break down of logic. The idea is to prepare him to start and keep him healthy. That is no counter logic. The injury thing is just plain fact. There is more risk to starting him in the rotation.”

    1. What’s the answer to how to best moderate innings and why is AAA better suited to that?

    2.) How are you keeping him healthier in AAA as opposed to the ML?

    3.) If he gets significantly injured again, it won’t be for overuse, it’ll be continued structural issues with his arm/shoulder or a different natural occuring injury.

    So, and in all seriousness, if he gets significantly injured again this year, are you REALLY worried about this future cost controlled years? You think he’s going to miss his third consecutive year of not pitching significant innings and you think his upside is STILL so high that he’s breaking the bank in 3 years instead of 4?

    If he isn’t healthy this year, that might be it for him. And I haven’t see any compelling argument has to why he’d be healthier in AAA.

  9. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    3.) If he gets significantly injured again, it won’t be for overuse

    I don’t accept this as fact. I think with how the Yankees handle their pitchers in the majors that its likely they put him in a danger zone just through regular use and trying to win this year.

  10. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    If he isn’t healthy this year, that might be it for him. And I haven’t see any compelling argument has to why he’d be healthier in AAA.

    There is no reason to push the envelope in AAA, thats reason #1.

  11. UpState March 14th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Mens NCAA Hoop

    Final Score:

    PITTSBURGH………… 80 (25-8)
    North Carolina……… 75 (23-9)

    ….just in case someone didn’t know !

  12. Giuseppe Franco March 14th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    The Hulk was always my favorite super hero as a kid but the movies have been kinda lame and disappointing.

  13. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Screw basketball

  14. tomingeorgia March 14th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Single-minded pursuit of aims, like Pineda to the minors and sign Drew at any cost, quickly lose their entertainment value after a matter of days or weeks.

  15. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    “There is no reason to push the envelope in AAA, thats reason #1.”

    Then you’ve also just pushed the argument that Michael Pineda will better develop pitching meaningless, low-leverage innings to inferior players, when he’s already had success in the MLs.

    Do you just want him throwing glorified bullpen sessions to work on repetition on his change and to hedge against mechanical breakdown after so many thousand throws?

    This isn’t a youngster over his head. The ML won’t be too much for him mentally. He’s already tasted success there.

    You want him to ‘develop’ as a ML pitcher, he needs to pitch in the ML. Unless this spring or April he proves he’s not ready to do that, then by all means, send him to AAA where getting those hitters out will be a challenge for him.

    “I don’t accept this as fact. I think with how the Yankees handle their pitchers in the majors that its likely they put him in a danger zone just through regular use and trying to win this year.”

    That won’t be a factor in 2015-18?

  16. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Giuseppe Franco says:
    March 14, 2014 at 5:17 pm
    The Hulk was always my favorite super hero as a kid but the movies have been kinda lame and disappointing.

    Because the Hulk himself is just a big rage machine that can’t really be hurt……the only way a hulk movie can work is if you are made to care about Bruce banner and they finally got it right in the Avengers…..and frankly it made the movie . The climax of the movie was the Ruffalo line ” I’m always angry”.

  17. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    A justice league movie has the potential I be even better than the Avengers if they do it right…..because DC has way cooler villans…..Darkseid, Doomsday , Lex luthor, The Joker, etc……The Avengers had Loki…..how lame is he

  18. Giuseppe Franco March 14th, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Giuseppe Franco says:
    March 14, 2014 at 5:17 pm
    The Hulk was always my favorite super hero as a kid but the movies have been kinda lame and disappointing.

    Because the Hulk himself is just a big rage machine that can’t really be hurt……the only way a hulk movie can work is if you are made to care about Bruce banner and they finally got it right in the Avengers…..and frankly it made the movie . The climax of the movie was the Ruffalo line ” I’m always angry”.

    —–

    I haven’t seen The Avengers. I downloaded the Bluray quite awhile ago and just haven’t watched it yet.

    I have several super hero movies on my external hard drive right now that I haven’t had the chance to watch (Thor 1 and 2, Captain America, Avengers, Iron Man 2 and 3).

  19. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    That won’t be a factor in 2015-18?

    A guy ready for pitching 200 innings vs a guy that hasnt thrown more than 40 in 2 years. Thats why you build him up this year. So that in 2015 you can push him.

  20. Giuseppe Franco March 14th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Because the Hulk himself is just a big rage machine that can’t really be hurt

    —-

    Sounds like a couple of roid monsters I know at my gym.

  21. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    “I haven’t seen The Avengers. I downloaded the Bluray quite awhile ago and just haven’t watched it yet.”

    It’s really fun to watch

  22. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Repetition is how you develop pitches, you know actually throwing them, and thats something Pineda can definitely do in the minors with the change up. In the majors a guy is more likely to fall back on the pitches he knows are good.

  23. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    blake,

    The Hulk worked when he sucker-punched Thor in the side of the head at Grand Central after the worked together for a few moments.

    For the first time they let the Hulk enjoy being the Hulk. The problem with the previous films is audiences wanted to see the Hulk, but Bruce Banner didn’t want to become the Hulk. They made what the audience WANTED to see a reluctant, tragic occurence.

    Cap telling him to “Smash” was Whedon finally figuring it out. Audiences wanted to see the Hulk smash, but MORE importantly, they wanted the Hulk to WANT to Smash. They wanted him to enjoy it.

    The tragic, hunted creature who just wants to be left alone is the most famous iteration of the character, but it’s actually historically brief. The Hulk has been smart and in control of his facilities over the course of his history much more than the other way around.

    Give him a little sense of self-awareness, a little sense of humor, and you got a winner. The Hulk represents how everyone WANTS to rage at things and people that piss them off, not being afraid of it. The power fantasy is SMASHING, NOT Bruce winning and controlling his transformations.

    Ruffalo was fine, but Stark needling him to embrace the Hulk as a good thing was where the Avengers really and finally went right with him.

  24. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    If anyone cares Montero was optioned to AAA. The Mariners clearly understand my desire for enhanced team control and development.

  25. UpState March 14th, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:18 pm
    Screw basketball
    =======================

    real nice.

  26. MTU March 14th, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    First look at Betances this Spring.

    Have to say he looked good.

    Maybe he has turned the corner.

    Hope so.

  27. bigdan22 March 14th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Interesting game today. The first three Yanks got hits and then the Twins threw a no-no after that. I wasn’t concentrating on the Twins’ pitchers per se, but they all seem to be throwing in the low to mid 90s with good off speed pitches.

    –You saw the best and worst of Phelps today. If he has his command, get strikes called and stays ahead, he’s an effective pitcher. But when he falls behind, he has no real dominant pitch he can go to. But he competes and keeps his team in the game. Seems to profile as an ideal back end starter as long as he’s cheap. I’ve been saying for awhile, when a pitcher pitches above his stuff, he’s a starter. When he pitches below his stuff, he’s a reliever. Phelps is a starter.

    –Which brings us to the highlight of the afternoon, Betances. Pretty damn dominant. 93-96. Big hook. He can throw it for a called strike or out of the zone for a wipe out pitch. Hell, even when he hangs it they can’t hit it. At least today. Betances has looked good all spring but this was by far his best outing. I just wonder, when he makes the big league club in a couple weeks, how often will he bring his A game? Because his A game seems pretty unhittable.

    –Banuelos is fine. He was sitting 92 today on his FB and he threw a couple sweet curves. That’s one more pitch than Pineda has right now. This guy just needs time. Wonder where his CU is?

    –Lewis threw well for awhile and then lost his control. He needs to throw his slider with more consistent bite. When he does, it’s a SO pitch. He’s going down anyway. Probably see him in the summer.

    –With Mason Williams, the more he plays, the more unimpressive he looks offensively. Maybe that explains his lackluster stats.

  28. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Maybe he has turned the corner.

    Hope so.

    He has been really good since becoming a reliever. Seems like its his place.

  29. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    Ruffalo was fine, but Stark needling him to embrace the Hulk as a good thing was where the Avengers really and finally went right with him.”

    True I agree with all of that…..I just think they finally got the actor to play Banner right as well. Obviously none of ot works without RDJ though

  30. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Jerkface says:
    March 14, 2014 at 5:34 pm
    If anyone cares Montero was optioned to AAA. The Mariners clearly understand my desire for enhanced team control and development.

    Or he’s fat

  31. Giuseppe Franco March 14th, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    That’s some deep thought about a comic book super hero.

  32. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Who is smarter: Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne?

  33. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    “Thats why you build him up this year. So that in 2015 you can push him.”

    Still waiting for the argument of why he can’t be “built up” and he and Phelps can both get out ML hitters at the same time?

    And sorry, you’re wasting your time trying to convince people the best method of developing a new skill is low-leverage repetition. There are a lot of golfers who look like tour pros at the driving range. A lot of guys who look like three point shooting aces by themselves in the schoolyard.

    My original post stands. There is no shortage of arguments as to why ANY player should stay down in AAA. Just keep them down there until hitters are OPSing 1.100 and pitchers are .80 WHIPs.

    Why start their service clocks EVER until they’re really to hit the majors fully matured?

    You gotta let them out of the cryo tubes sometimes.

  34. bigdan22 March 14th, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Going out on a limb. I think in the next couple of weeks CC finds something. Not velocity. But a way to get outs. I think he might be pretty decent this year. Just don’t match him up against a one or two.

  35. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    blake,

    Ruffalo was better than Norton because he didn’t have to look worried and pained the entire movie.

  36. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    “If anyone cares Montero was optioned to AAA. The Mariners clearly understand my desire for enhanced team control and development.”

    This is self-parody, correct?

  37. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    And sorry, you’re wasting your time trying to convince people the best method of developing a new skill is low-leverage repetition. There are a lot of golfers who look like tour pros at the driving range. A lot of guys who look like three point shooting aces by themselves in the schoolyard.

    Why start their service clocks EVER until they’re really to hit the majors fully matured?

    How many tour pros work on a new swing on the big tour event? And again most of my point is that Pineda has thrown crap all inning the past 2 years. The minors is the best place for someone who possibly isnt even conditioned enough to throw a full season to build his innings. The bonus is that he can work on his secondary pitches there. The second bonus is that you can potentially get the service time stuff.

  38. champ809 March 14th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    bigdan-

    You’re wrong about Mason and you’ll see it this season…..stay tuned

    Also, as I been saying for awhile, gut feeling Cito Culver really re-establishes his prospect status and looks more like the hitter who showed up to Tampa at the end of last season. His hitting allows him to relax and let his talent take over and his natural instincts, abilities and the intangibles he’s shown in his young life arrive to have a breakout season.

    Finally, I think Slade has a monster year in Scranton this season….Monster! Arizona fall league ’12 type monster!

  39. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    stillstuckey says:
    March 14, 2014 at 5:43 pm
    blake,

    Ruffalo was better than Norton because he didn’t have to look worried and pained the entire movie.

    I think he was just better too…I actually liked eric Bana better than Norton. Not a huge Norton fan

  40. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    blake, Stark’s the better builder, Wayne’s the better strategist.

    Who’s smarter, a rocket scientist or a chess master?

  41. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    This is self-parody, correct?

    Duh. And how about we let Pineda out of the cryo tube when he is in a position to throw significant innings at the major league level? Right now he is inbetween a maybe to no in that regard.

    I reckon most starters in the majors are not coming off 40 innings in 2 years. And those that were probably pitched significant amounts prior.

  42. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    bigdan22 says:
    March 14, 2014 at 5:43 pm
    Going out on a limb. I think in the next couple of weeks CC finds something. Not velocity. But a way to get outs. I think he might be pretty decent this year. Just don’t match him up against a one or two

    I think he will be better than last year …..maybe 3.9 era or so …..

  43. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    “The minors is the best place for someone who possibly isnt even conditioned enough to throw a full season to build his innings.”

    Keep hearing that, not hearing why?

  44. champ809 March 14th, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    JF-

    Pineda piched 171 innings in 2011…If he’s healthy and throwing the way he’s thrown so far this spring he’s the 5th starter going north. Embrace it.

  45. bigdan22 March 14th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    champ809 March 14th, 2014 at 5:49 pm
    bigdan-

    You’re wrong about Mason and you’ll see it this season…..stay tuned

    ——

    Sincerely hope I am.

  46. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Again this isn’t really about Pineda needing to get minor leaguers out. Its about him needing to just get innings, build his arm strength. Its always easier to call a guy up than it is to send a guy down, which is why starting him in the minors makes more sense than starting him in the rotation.

    my points all stand.

  47. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Who’s smarter, a rocket scientist or a chess master?”

    I would say Stark is smarter IQ wise…..but Bruce probably has more practical smarts. I mean Bruce could have just built himself an invulnerable suit to wear if he knew how. I like Iron man but those movies are what they are because Downey was just born to play that role…..batman is a much cooler character

  48. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Keep hearing that, not hearing why?

    Because its a controlled environment where nothing is on the line, the amount of pitches/innings can be strictly monitored with only meaningless AAA wins or losses as a consequence, less travel, closer to NY, no big league distractions, less stressful innings. Do you run the marathon distance for the first time in the actual marathon?

  49. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    “Duh.”

    Whew.

    “And how about we let Pineda out of the cryo tube when he is in a position to throw significant innings at the major league level?”

    Why, what does having a limit of 150 innings (for sake of argument) have to do with the quality of those 150 innings?

    Okay, he MAY be a better pitcher with a higher innings limit in 2015 than he is in 2014. I can accept that as a premise. But why are we assuming he can’t be effective in 2014?

    He doesn’t need to be the BEST Michael Pineda to be the best 5th starter candidate.

    80% of Michael Pineda may be better than 100% of David Phelps, which is the premise do don’t seem to be able to accept.

  50. blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    @TBrownYahoo: Mariners option Jesus Montero to T-A.

    Montero has been optioned to T-Bonz……I mean Triple A

  51. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Pineda piched 171 innings in 2011…If he’s healthy and throwing the way he’s thrown so far this spring he’s the 5th starter going north. Embrace it.

    Same excuse was used for Hughes and then he had shoulder fatigue the year after throwing a huge 3 year high because his ‘high’ was based on an amount thrown 2+ years prior. I would like the Yankees to work it differently. Had those 171 innings been a year ago, I’d be all for it, but they weren’t.

  52. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    “Do you run the marathon distance for the first time in the actual marathon?”

    No, but distance isn’t the issue. Conversely, you don’t train for a marathon by walking and just walking faster each time until eventually you’re running.

    You train for a marathon by running at the optimal pace for as long as you can and build up from there.

  53. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    80% of Michael Pineda may be better than 100% of David Phelps, which is the premise do don’t seem to be able to accept.

    Huh? I do accept that this is possible. But I don’t think its necessary to have 80% of pineda when you can just SAFELY have 100% of Phelps now, and 100% of Pineda next year, and 20% of Pineda this year at the tail end where it really matters.

    And what if getting 80% of pineda this year means you get nothing in 2015? What if he gets Hughes or Joba’d?

  54. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    No, but distance isn’t the issue. Conversely, you don’t train for a marathon by walking and just walking faster each time until eventually you’re running.

    You train for a marathon by running at the optimal pace for as long as you can and build up from there.

    Yea which is why your starters build up their innings in the minors :)

  55. blake March 14th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    They want Pineda in the rotation and they need phelps in the bullpen. So that’s likely what’s gonna happen

  56. bigdan22 March 14th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Because its a controlled environment where nothing is on the line, the amount of pitches/innings can be strictly monitored with only meaningless AAA wins or losses as a consequence, less travel, closer to NY, no big league distractions, less stressful innings. Do you run the marathon distance for the first time in the actual marathon?

    —-

    I think from a development standpoint this is the right approach. But I don’t think this is a close call at all. Go back and watch carefully the tape of his last start. I have. It’s absolutely clear he is not ready. If he pitches with the stuff he had then he will get hurt in the majors. And I’m sure the Yanks realize this as well.

    Now maybe he was just off mechanically and will look completely different in his next start. So there is time for everyone to change their minds. But as of right now, there really is no 5th starter competition.

  57. Giuseppe Franco March 14th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    blake March 14th, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Who’s smarter, a rocket scientist or a chess master?”

    I would say Stark is smarter IQ wise…..but Bruce probably has more practical smarts. I mean Bruce could have just built himself an invulnerable suit to wear if he knew how. I like Iron man but those movies are what they are because Downey was just born to play that role…..batman is a much cooler character

    —–

    All I can say is that I know who the biggest comic book nerd on LoHud is!!!

  58. Cashmoney March 14th, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    when I watch Mason William, I see a possible above average defender in CF. it’s the hitting part that is subpar, he was not that impressive in FS league nor was he in AA albeit briefly. He looks be more bulky this ST than AZ fall league. But I was not impressed by swing this ST.

    stay tuned indeed.

  59. stillstuckey March 14th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    “Huh? I do accept that this is possible. But I don’t think its necessary to have 80% of pineda when you can just SAFELY have 100% of Phelps now, and 100% of Pineda next year, and 20% of Pineda this year at the tail end where it really matters.:”

    How about having 80% of Pineda AND 100% of Phelps now (and I’m not there optimal talent level, not usage).

    And you seriously aren’t trying to sell a win in September is more valuable than a win in April, are you?

    “Yea which is why your starters build up their innings in the minors :)”

    That reply makes no sense. In your analogy, the minors would be a slower, less challenging pace. You train that way, and maybe you finish, but your aren’t competing.

    Which is what I said how you DON”T train for a marathon.

  60. blake March 14th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    “All I can say is that I know who the biggest comic book nerd on LoHud is!!!”

    Lol

  61. blake March 14th, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    The worst part of the avengers movie was when Thor fought Ironman…..Thor would kill iron man in 5 seconds in a straight fight

  62. Jerkface March 14th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    You can pitch at whatever pace you want in the minors, but you’re not required to pitch at a certain pace. Which is why you build up innings there.

  63. Pat M. March 14th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

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    Sorry, I know YOU believe it, and I know nothing will convince you otherwise, but I’m a believer in competition in addition to practice/training.

    The guys who have played the game say it all the time, the characteristics of innings is as important as the number of pitches or the number of innings. I don’t want to see him on a treadmill, I want to see him in a race and to COMBINE conditioning and rebuilding his stamina ALONG WITH learning to be better at the major league level.

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