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Monday morning notes: Ellsbury to hit inside today

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 17, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano Rivera, David Robertson, Luis Sojo, Brett Gardne

Most of the big names who made the Panama trip were not asked to come to Steinbrenner Field today. They basically have a day off (with Dave Robertson being perhaps the most notable exception). The players got home around midnight last night, so while guys like Antoan Richardson and Chase Whitley are playing immediately, guys like Derek Jeter and Carlos Beltran probably won’t do much until tomorrow.

“I’m glad I had the opportunity to come and got a chance to honor Mariano here in his home country,” Jeter told The Associated Press yesterday. “It’s an experience that I’ll forever remember. … When you’re around someone for that long, they don’t necessarily have to tell you things. I could tell it meant a lot to him. No one deserves it more than him.”

For now, the question is whether anyone will actually play a game today.

The sky does not look promising, and the forecast calls for a lot of rain today. The Yankees have already left for Bradenton, so they’re going to try to get the game in, but it’s not particularly hopeful at the moment. Just doesn’t look good.

Jacoby Ellsbury· Jacoby Ellsbury is scheduled to take regular batting practice inside today. He told Joe Girardi that his tight calf feels better today, but Girardi said it’s still doubtful that Ellsbury will play tomorrow. “My guess is it will be no, but we’ll see,” Girardi said.

· Brendan Ryan is scheduled for a full workout in Tampa. If the weather allows, he’ll hit outside. Sounds like he’s on track to get back in a game this week.

· Two other notables scheduled to hit outside today are Tyler Austin and Scott Sizemore. Austin will be hitting outside for the first time since, I believe, the very first spring workout. He felt some discomfort in his wrist just as camp started and has been slowly working his way back. Hitting outside is basically his last step before getting in a game. Sizemore had been quietly shut down for a few days because of a tight right quad. He said his ACL is fine (that’s the injury he’s coming back from) and the quad issue is a non-concern. He’s expecting to play in the next day or two.

· Girardi won’t say when Masahiro Tanaka is making his next start, but CC Sabathia is scheduled for Friday (which would be Tanaka’s fifth day) and there’s no starter listed for Saturday’s game against the Twins. Tanaka is throwing a bullpen tomorrow, and pitchers who are starting on their sixth day typically throw a regular bullpen two days after their previous start before throwing a very light side a couple of days later. Certainly seems that Tanaka is being lined up for Saturday. Question is whether he pitches in the big league game on the road or stays in Tampa to pitch either a simulated game or a minor league game.

· Random nugget: Girardi said he actually watched some of yesterday’s Tanaka start on his computer between innings in Panama.

· Also worth noting that neither Vidal Nuno or Adam Warren is listed as a starting pitcher this week. Both pitched on Saturday. Seems at least possible that they’ve made their final spring starts.

· Today’s batting practice groups in Tampa:
Group 1: Kelly Johnson, Brian McCann, Gary Sanchez, Ichiro Suzuki
Group 2: Tyler Austin, Brendan Ryan, Scott Sizemore

· Today’s second string: C John Ryan Murphy, 1B Corban Joseph, 2B Zelous Wheeler, SS Dean Anna, 3B Jose Pirela, LF Ramon Flores, CF Jake Cave, RF Yeral Sanchez

· Today’s scheduled relievers: Chase Whitley, David Herndon, Mark Montgomery, Brian Gordon, Yoshinori Tateyama (with Fred Lewis, Robert Coello, Branden Pinder, Jamas Pazos and Manny Barreda also making the trip)

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53 Responses to “Monday morning notes: Ellsbury to hit inside today”

  1. @rational_sports March 17th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    A little concerned about Ellsbury. Not that this injury will cause any issues, but i’m always a little concerned when a guy who relies on his speed has any leg issues.

    Can’t it just be opening day already? I’m tired of waiting.

  2. ac1 March 17th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Trish: Give me 94-68 for the Yankees in 2014.

    I’ll take it further:

    Yanks 94-68
    Rays 91-71
    Baltimore 85-77
    Boston 77-85
    Toronto 69-93

  3. J. Alfred Prufrock March 17th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    March 17, 2014 at 10:16 am
    Yep Heathcott definitely has some thump in the bat but he is slappy.

    I think we may see Flores develop more power as we move alOng but agAin – at the upper levels It’s Tyler Austin with easy power, and I don’t think Almonte LH as a potential power bat is going out on any kind of limb – fairly obvious

  4. Russell Munson March 17th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Players usually do add power until they’re around 30. So it’s not unrealistic to think a 20 HR guy in the minors could hit 25 in the majors at some point.

  5. Locke March 17th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Russell – I’d say that most players start to reach their power potential earlier (26/27 – though I don’t have any actual data for this), but I think 20 HR in the minors can easily translate to 25 in the majors.

  6. Russell Munson March 17th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Looks like you’re right, at least according to this.

    http://www.tangotiger.net/agepatterns.txt

    HR power peaks around 27.

  7. RhapsodyInBlue March 17th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Lá fhéile Pádraig sona dhuit!

  8. blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Calf injuries linger…..what did Jacoby run it to to strain his calf?

  9. blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    Every time Jeter has had a calf injury it starts of as “tight” then he goes on the DL. If it takes Jeter 3 weeks to get over it it’ll probably take Ellbsury 3 months……I’m kidding (sorta). I hope it’s really nothing but I’m concerned yea

  10. blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    If I win the Billion dollars bracket challenge with a perfect bracket then I’m gonna buy the Yankees

  11. blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    And if I can’t afford the Yankees I’m gonna but the Angels and trade Mike Trout to the Yankees

  12. Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Glowing praise from Buster Onley this morning on Tanaka in his article after seeing him in person for the first time yesterday

  13. yankeefeminista March 17th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Austin definitely has “easy power.” In his past 3 minor league seasons he has a .499 SLG/.191 ISO, mostly hitting in pitchers’ parks with a .523 Road SLG, .521 vs. RHP. Plus the nice thing is he always has a high 300′s OBP. (.386 OBP in past 3 years). When he connects he hits bombs, but he isn’t a strike out machine like OB et al. We just have to hope Austin can get and stay healthy. And you really can’t conflate him with our other OF prospects as some are wont to do here; I have always loved Flores (have seen him flirt with adding pop), but he not a traditional corner and Slade (even though he flashes pop) and Mason are CF’s; Austin is the only legit COF bat in the high minors (besides Almonte’s).

    Almonte has a .486 SLG vs. RHP, and he too has played in pitchers’ parks, .494 SLG. on the road. He would add a nice bat to this lineup (as a few of us Trentonites have been saying for a couple of years now), especially hitting LH; too bad we have more OF’s than we need and less viable IF’s than we require… But it is a given that there’s always somewhere in the Yankee field that has been “stewied…”

    As for Ells, I will believe he can stay healthy when I see it…

  14. blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Tanaka will be the 2nd or 3rd pitcher in the AL east this year….

  15. yankeefeminista March 17th, 2014 at 10:59 am

    Anyone who hasn’t yet gotten how good Tanaka is/will be hasn’t been watching him pitch.

  16. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    blake March 17th, 2014 at 10:56 am
    Tanaka will be the 2nd or 3rd pitcher in the AL east this year….
    ===
    2nd or 3rd what? Best? Worst? Most Japanese?

  17. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    Pete Abe in mock surprise that Ells is having some calf tightness… I hope Ellsbury has a great year just so I don’t need to see Pete gloat.

  18. blake March 17th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    2nd or 3rd best

  19. Mottsx March 17th, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Ellsbury played with a broken foot last year, he’s got heart… no disrespect to Jeter, he’s 100 years old and besides banging half the world (coulda been dehydrated too) he was going on lack of use of his legs for a year, that’s he blew his legs last year. Ellsbury will be fine.

  20. bbb51 March 17th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 9:26 am
    Looking over the last thread, interesting discussion regarding the OF prospects.

    I dunno that they’re all blocked. Obviously they’ve hedged their bets greatly by signing Ellsbury and Gardner, but Gardner doesn’t have the luxury of a NTC and Beltran is not an everyday OFer. The Yankees have made a lot of use of their 4th (and 5th) OFers in the past so I do think if anyone of the prospects starts to stand out they can bring them into the fold in a year or two.

    That being said, the thing that sucks is none of the OFers in the system project to be power bats and with Ellsbury and Gardner already out there, you need to find power somewhere. They’ve added pop at C, but have lost it just about everywhere else.

    Good points about the OF not necessarily blocked, that’s what I’ve been thinking.

    Tyler Austin is a potential power bat, not big power, but 20+ is certainly reachable. Only he has had wrist problems…

  21. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    blake March 17th, 2014 at 11:18 am
    2nd or 3rd best
    ===
    Thank you. Remember, adjectives are your friends!

  22. bbb51 March 17th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 9:40 am
    4.7 earthquake in LA this morning.. Twitters blowing up.

    I lived in CA quite a bit, 4.7 might not even wake me up, and it doesn’t get impressive until about 6.0.

  23. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    Tyler Austin is a potential power bat, not big power, but 20+ is certainly reachable. Only he has had wrist problems…
    ===
    In post PEDs era, 20 HRs might be the new 30.

  24. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    I remember when Don Mattingly and Robbie Cano first came up…slap hitters, but they developed power as they matured. Flores reminds me of Bobby Abreau, and I think he will develop similar power.

  25. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    BTW–these young players wouldn’t have gotten so much playing time if the Yankees didn’t think they had potential. They are watching them very closely to see when they are ready for the show.

  26. bbb51 March 17th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Austin is already a 25+ HR guy in the minors if he could play a whole season. Last year he had the wrist problems so his power was down. Paul O’neill type with good average + power.

  27. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Insert “in this spring training” above wherever you think it makes most sense. Prizes to most original.

  28. bbb51 March 17th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    I don’t know about Abreu/Flores. Abreu seemed like he was much bigger/stronger. Flores could be a Abreu Light. Seems like 4th OF to me, although possible could become more.

  29. chicken_stanley March 17th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    not sure why but I feel much more optimistic about the farm even though it features basically the same cast of characters

  30. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    chicken_stanley March 17th, 2014 at 11:37 am
    not sure why but I feel much more optimistic about the farm even though it features basically the same cast of characters
    =====
    Lexapro is a wonderful thing.

  31. blake March 17th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    chicken_stanley says:
    March 17, 2014 at 11:37 am
    not sure why but I feel much more optimistic about the farm even though it features basically the same cast of characters

    Well last year was pretty much the worst case scenario for the farm…..everybody was hurt. Nowhere to go but up……they are better than they showed in 2013

  32. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Probably a dumb question but: Is there a way to see what the league average of OF production is?

  33. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Not per player, but per teams’ OF corps?

  34. chicken_stanley March 17th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Lexapro is a wonderful thing.

    —————–

    :D

  35. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Pssssshhhhhh…. that blows.

    @beckjason Iglesias confirmed he has been diagnosed with stress fractures in both legs.

  36. Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    I don’t think they’ll retain Alf after this season (same for Ichi, obviously) and Beltran might end up being a 50/50 OFer/DH (in an ideal world I’d think that’s what they’d do with him). That leaves room for one of the kids to step in and be the 4th guy and get a bunch of playing time.

  37. bigdan22 March 17th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Almonte is ready now and he’s blocked. Big time. It might take two injuries in the current OF for him to start. The Yanks could have Flores and Heathcott playing full time this year in AAA. Blocked and Blocked.

    But the real problem is, as I pointed out a few days ago, that for the next 5 YEARS 2/3 of the OF will be manned by Ellsbury and Gardner. And those guys will play every day. No DH for them. And I don’t believe Gardner’s contract is all that tradable. He’ll be over 30 soon making $12MM+with no power and probably still a pedestrian OBP. But hopefully not striking out over 120 times like last year.

    Outside of SS and 2b, his team is pretty set for quite awhile.

    Oh, to folks who don’t live in earthquake country, quite a shaker this morning. We here know it’s not just the magnitude but the distance from the epicenter that counts. This one was in our backyard (LA).

  38. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Shame Spencer March 17th, 2014 at 11:54 am
    I don’t think they’ll retain Alf after this season (same for Ichi, obviously) and Beltran might end up being a 50/50 OFer/DH (in an ideal world I’d think that’s what they’d do with him). That leaves room for one of the kids to step in and be the 4th guy and get a bunch of playing time.
    ====
    And they can always trade Gardner if one of the kids prove they can play better.

  39. Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    Buster quoted a few scouts re: Tanaka who have seen him in person. The praise is quite flattering. Yanks might have done well here. They may also have a sneaky/good young rotation going forward to build around. This next phase may be built more around young pitching with FA/trades for position players. Very interesting.

  40. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Gardner’s contract will be relatively cheap for a lead-off gold glove caliber CFer in a year. Price escalation is a wonderful thing when you are trying to move contracts.

  41. Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    a bubble begins to form again

  42. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
    a bubble begins to form again
    ====
    Is that “haiku?”

  43. Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
    Revenge of Stoneburner March 17th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
    a bubble begins to form again
    ====
    Is that “haiku?”

    ****

    just a Monday morning warning

  44. bigdan22 March 17th, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    “Gardner’s contract will be relatively cheap for a lead-off gold glove caliber CFer in a year. Price escalation is a wonderful thing when you are trying to move contracts.”

    —–

    That could be true. I also believe the Yanks could pick up a few million on a trade. But think about this. When was the last time the Yanks traded a veteran under contract to give a young player a shot? That’s not their way. Too risk adverse. I think they might with Gardner if his performance hit AJ levels but do we want to actually see that? Gardner is a very consistent performer when healthy. If he plays to his projectable level I doubt very much he’ll ever be traded by the Yanks no matter how much promise the farm OFs show.

  45. Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Since Gardner just signed an extension I can’t foresee the Yanks trading him anytime soon.

  46. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    When was the last time the Yanks traded a veteran under contract to give a young player a shot?
    ===
    Let’s see…
    Cano, Soriano, Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Mattingly….whenever a prospect earned it.

  47. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
    Since Gardner just signed an extension I can’t foresee the Yanks trading him anytime soon.
    ===
    As soon as a prospect proves he can replace him, they would trade him in a geartbeat to get a good player that fills another need.

  48. BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    FYI, a geartbeat is twice the speed of a heartbeat.

  49. Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    When was the last time the Yanks traded a veteran under contract to give a young player a shot?
    ===
    Let’s see…
    Cano, Soriano, Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Mattingly….whenever a prospect earned it.

    ——

    The problem with that argument though is the organization had a much different philosophical approach to building a winner when a lot of those guys were young kids than they do now, with the exception of Mattingly and Cano.

  50. Howler March 17th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    I think the team’s philosophical approach is to put the best player available out on the field. If it can save them some money they’ll go for it in a gearbeat.

  51. Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Giuseppe Franco March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
    Since Gardner just signed an extension I can’t foresee the Yanks trading him anytime soon.
    ===
    As soon as a prospect proves he can replace him, they would trade him in a geartbeat to get a good player that fills another need.

    —–

    Well, that’s a big part of their problem too – they kinda suck at player development right now and they don’t have a ton of patience for young kids to grow.

    Young kids who struggle tend to get replaced whereas vets who struggle tend to get a lot more rope because they are vets.

  52. bigdan22 March 17th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    BoJo March 17th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
    When was the last time the Yanks traded a veteran under contract to give a young player a shot?
    ===
    Let’s see…
    Cano, Soriano, Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Mattingly….whenever a prospect earned

    —–

    Refresh my memory. Which of these players got a starting shot through a trade of a veteran under contract?

    From memory, Rivera got the job because Wetteland was a FA. Posada was heir apparent to Girardi and I believe he left as a FA as well. Did they trade Roberto Kelly to give Bernie a shot? They tried to get rid of Bernie a bunch of times because they didn’t like his development. I don’t Kelly was under contract anyway. He was under control. Jeter only got the starting job in 1996 through an injury. They were even very reluctant about that. They wanted to trade for a SS that spring to block Jeter. I think Cano also got the job under duress. Don’t remember Soriano.

    But I still can’t think of any situation where a veteran under a contract was traded to give a young player a shot. Do you?

  53. CountryClub March 17th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 1m
    “JR Murphy walked up to catching inst. Gary Tuck, asked who has quietest hands among all Cs. Tuck’s response: You”

    that’s also from Buster’s article this morning.

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