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Johnson’s role not limited to platoon

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 19, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Kelly Johnson

As many, many people have pointed out on Twitter or in the comments or in various emails, Kelly Johnson’s career splits are not substantial. He actually has a higher career OPS against lefties (.770) than against righties (.759). It hasn’t been that way in recent years — lately he’s been quite a bit better against right-handers — but the career trend is enough to wonder why the Yankees are limiting Johnson to a platoon role.

The answer is, they’re not.

“I think you’re going to look at, in a sense, as three guys for two spots,” Joe Girardi said. “You’ve got Brian Roberts, you’ve got Kelly, and you’re going to have another guy that’s going to be able to spell Brian, going to be able to spell Kelly, (and occasionally) Kelly’s going to move to first so you’ll need that guy (to play third).

“Kelly’s going to play a lot, though. I like what I’ve seen from him, and he’s going to play a lot.”

Basically, for this extra infield spot, a right-handed hitter seems to fit best because it would make sense to sit Johnson against some lefties. But that doesn’t mean Johnson’s going to sit against all lefties. The fact he’ll be the primary backup at first base, while also potentially getting some time at second — and maybe even the outfield if necessary — leaves plenty of ways to get Johnson’s bat in the lineup. If he’s productive, he’ll play.

“We kind of thought about (a platoon) a little bit going into the season when we signed Kelly,” Girardi said. “But his at-bats have been good against right handers (and) left handers. There’s some different things we can do with it, obviously. He’s going to play a lot, let’s put it that way.”

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75 Responses to “Johnson’s role not limited to platoon”

  1. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    the will middlebrooks with the .696 OPS and 88 OPS+ last year is the reason the RS don’t want Drew even though they don’t have to give up a draft pick?

    What does that say about Drew?

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Thank you Chad for that information.

    And there you have it. The reality of the situation/

  3. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    blake, I actually fear that it’s going to eventually be discovered in some ocean, but I pray that it’s on the ground somewhere.

    :(

    Great panel on Anderson Cooper discussing the Malaysian situation and also airplane emergencies in general, what happens when there are actual emergencies in the air. They have an entire panel of experts, including the air traffic control person who was involved with Swiss Air flight 111, discussing what happened in that situation. They played the entire communication between air traffic and the captain. It was pretty chilling. They also discussed their different theories on what has happened with the Malaysian flight.

    For anyone interested it’s repeated at 11:00, CNN, if you want to watch or DVR.

  4. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    As I say, I’d bring Drew in if he’s sign a one year deal or one year with a vestable option for a second, but a 3 or more year deal for him with his injury history is just bad buisness imo, and obviously other teams who don’t have to give up the first round draft pick feel the same way.

  5. pkyankfan69 March 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Pretty sure aliens stole the plane using their high tech tractor beam… Once the aliens have outfitted all of the passengers with anal probes they will send them back.

  6. blake March 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Middlebrooks has some upside and again signing Drew would put them close to the tax limit…..close enough where it would hamper them from making a Trade deadline move perhaps

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    My guess is that you’re going to see Nunez in there as the backup.

  8. blake March 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Planes have a beacon that automatically goes off if it’s about to crash in the ocean…..no beacon went off. Either it blew up in air so badly that there was nothing left to signal……or it never blew up or crashed at all.

  9. pkyankfan69 March 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    This pretty much explains my theory

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS-h6ok6LcA

  10. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Since Nunez had almost the exact same #s as Middlebrooks last year and the Yankees are actually already over the deadline and would actually have to pay the tax, you just made the argument for why the Yankees shouldn’t sign Drew.

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    blake, you might want to DVR (or watch) the repeat of Anderson Cooper at 11. Extremely interesting information, including what you just said about the signal and also about a signal that should be coming through if it was in the ocean. How they know that the flight path was altered is beyond me, especially because the altered path would have the plane nowhere near where they originally searched.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    They also said the plane was flying extremely low, so I think the theory about blowing up badly in the air doesn’t hold because someone would have seen it.

  13. bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Even though it’s just about 20 ST games, its still pretty easy to see something I pointed out weeks ago while this Yankee team was being constructed. Despite all the consternation, the team’s projected poor infield defense will have very little impact on the it’s success or failure n 2014.

    There are three reasons for this which I’ve discussed before but it bares repeating: One, even a bad ML infielder is actually very good. The difference between a bad infielder, an average infielder and a good infielder is really not all that significant. Is it one out a game? A half of an out? Or a third of an out? No matter, because that brings me to my second point. If your starting pitching is really good, it can easily swallow the increase in outs resulting from a poor infield defense. And finally, even if poor defense leads to more outs and those outs lead to more runs (which itself is not a given), it’s quite likely given the vagueries of a single game (a microcosm of the complex system that is a season), that the extra runs won’t figure in the impact of the game. What’s for impactful with respect to the final result of a given game or given season is pitching. First starting pitching and second relief pitching.

    And when everything is said and done, outside of when Jeter is playing SS, the Yanks’ infield defense is not going to be all that bad. Probably average. I continue to maintain what will drive this Yankee team to success in 2014 will be starting pitching if it is in fact elite which it may be. And what can derail this team, other than injuries, is the bullpen. Pitching, pitching and more pitching. That’s the key.

  14. pete2 March 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Johnson is the starting 3Bman and backup for 2B and 1B. Whats this platoon stuff?

    “Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    the will middlebrooks with the .696 OPS and 88 OPS+ last year is the reason the RS don’t want Drew even though they don’t have to give up a draft pick?

    What does that say about Drew?”
    ======================

    Says nothing about Drew since it’s a false premise.

    The actual reason is Drew was and still is looking for a multi-year deal. The Red Sox have a SS of the future, a real uber prospect in Boegarts, and not just a run of the mill prospect. Think Machado, Harper, etc.

    At 3B they have a 30 HR potential guy in Middlebrooks who had a real good rookie year, with an off year last year, and right behind him is another real good prospect in Cechhini. Cechhini is a better player than Middlebrooks. Middlebrooks likely gets moved to 1B or traded in the next year or 2 to make room for him.

    The Red Sox also had a payroll issue as they were up against 189 before Dempster recently gave them a gift, which limited the amount they could offer Drew on their early 2 yr deal which he rejected.

    Also, resigning Drew does cost them a pick potentially as they would not get the compensation pick. This may change if Drew goes through with his plan to wait till June, which could make him a more attractive option.

    They still have to face the fact that they have no need of Drew beyond this year being very well positioned over the next 3 years to have both SS and 3B filled with young cost controlled players, and Pedroia of course is a lock at 2B for years to come.

    If Drew would take a 1 yr deal for abut 12 million I bet the Red Sox sign him but he won’t. Playing out of position hurts his market value and he would be in real danger of being a bench player or platoon player if he had a slump or went on the DL, which would hurt it more.

    The Yankees position is much different. They lose only a 2nd round pick (less valuable than a compensation pick), and Drew fills a need this year as insurance for Jeter and to shore up an IF lacking quality depth, not to mention he would be the starting SS next year with Jeter gone. Drew bat also plays better at YS3 than Fenway, notwithstanding his H-A splits last year which were a SSS aberration.

    But the richest team in baseball can’t afford a 3/30 year deal so its not going to happen.

  15. Tar March 19th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    After back reading my only explanation is ……”this place is like crack”.

    Good night all

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    Information at bottom of television during Anderson Cooper show

    Malaysian official: we have received “some radar data” from other countries but “not at liberty” to release details

    Investigators: Flight plan after turn suggests it was programmed into computer to be executed automatically

    U.S. official: Diverted path for flight 370 followed two navigational waypoints

    Malaysian official: some data deleted from captain’s home flight simulator, unclear why

    Some data deleted from captain’s home

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    I couldn’t have said it better. You are right on the money, you’ve hit the bullseye.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 19th, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Night all. Keep lots of things in your prayers, including the Malaysian flight.

  19. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    all good points except your ending.

    “But the richest team in baseball can’t afford a 3/30 year deal so its not going to happen.”

    No, they can certainly afford it, but they don’t think he’s worth it, neither do the Mets who need a SS more than the Yankees do and who’s 1st round pick is protected.

    And don’t try to sell me on Middlebrooks as a fixture for years to come because the RS did offer Drew a QO and then had some negotiations with him before deciding to move on. The RS also discussed trading Middlebrooks with a few teams and Nick Cafardo expressed the belief that the RS might just sign Drew to play SS and move Bogaerts to 3B and move Middlebrooks to the bench.

  20. stillstuckey March 19th, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    …aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddd we’re back to Stephen Drew.

  21. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    The floor is open stuckey, whatya got?

  22. bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    Thanks Trisha.

    One of the peculiarities of baseball is that the keys for winning a playoff series are not the same as the keys to making the playoffs. In a playoff series, starting pitching depth is almost irrelevant. Roster depth itself is almost irrelevant except in one area–the bullpen.

    A good friend told me in college (a guy who’s now a pretty successful sportswriter) that the team that wins the playoffs is the team with the most relief pitchers. What he meant was the most quality relief pitchers. The strategy of a playoff game places huge reliance on the bullpen and quality bullpen depth.

    Overall, there are three keys to winning a playoff series: One, dominant top of the rotation starters; Two, a resilient and adaptable offense (with the added plus of an ability to score first); and three, a strong and deep bullpen.

    But I’ll leave that discussion for later in the year when hopefully it becomes more relevant.

  23. stillstuckey March 19th, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    “But the richest team in baseball can’t afford a 3/30 year deal so its not going to happen.”

    Why would any team, from the richest to the poorest bid against themselves. I HOPE this team learned from its Arod mistake.

    And the Yankees payroll has been static/capped since 2005. It is going to take ANOTHER decade to reconcile the fact they Yankees aren’t going to escalate payroll according to fan fantasies?

  24. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    People often repeat the old adage that it always comes down to pitching but it’s an argument that just isn’t true.

    The Yanks had very good pitching for the first 4 months of the season but they weren’t really a threat in the AL East because they couldn’t score runs.

    The team that led the majors in runs scored last year also won the World Series.

    The Yanks finished first or second in the majors in runs scored from 2009 to 2012 and were in the postseason every year (including a championship and two trips to the ALCS).

    Last season they finished 17th in runs scored and weren’t much of a threat the entire season.

    I’m not suggesting pitching isn’t extremely important. Of course it is.

    But it’s a fallacy that this team is always going to live or die based on pitching. This is an organization that has won 27 championships that have primarily been built around offenses that scored a lot of runs.

  25. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    The Yankees can certainly afford to spent 2/$30, they just need to find someone who’s worth 2/$30 to them.

  26. stillstuckey March 19th, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    Y… if you were going to construct a starting defense made up entirely of superheroes, what would it be?

    Alternately, who’s going to lead the Yankees in wins this year?

  27. pete2 March 19th, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    ” pkyankfan69 March 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Pretty sure aliens stole the plane using their high tech tractor beam… Once the aliens have outfitted all of the passengers with anal probes they will send them back.”

    It was clearly hijacked via remote control using the internet and the planes entertainment system to get control of the planes flight and communication systems. The investigation will eventually blame some terrorist group or country.

    With the pilot a suspect, I am reminded of the Egyptian flight in 1999 which was blamed as pilot suicide but which I believe was a trial run for 9/11 to test the response to a plane exercising a destructive maneuver (such as crashing into a building on the ground), so this could be a trial run for something larger.

  28. pkyankfan69 March 19th, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    Big win over the Pacers…. That’s 7 in a row for the Knicks and they have a soft schedule ahead of them… Might just sneak into the playoffs

  29. pete2 March 19th, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    “And don’t try to sell me on Middlebrooks as a fixture for years to come because the RS did offer Drew a QO and then had some negotiations with him before deciding to move on. The RS also discussed trading Middlebrooks with a few teams and Nick Cafardo expressed the belief that the RS might just sign Drew to play SS and move Bogaerts to 3B and move Middlebrooks to the bench.”

    Where did I say Middlebrooks was a fixture for years to come for the Red Sox????

    I said

    “Cechhini is a better player than Middlebrooks. Middlebrooks likely gets moved to 1B or traded in the next year or 2 to make room for him.”

    The incremental value of a win for a 90 W projected team and with the Yankees revenue base is easily 10 million per W. Drew is easily worth 6 WAR at YS3 over the next 3 years. Do the math.

  30. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    I don’t know about a starting defense of superheroes but I’m thinking Flash Gordon would lead off and play center field with a 3-4-5 of Superman, the Hulk, and Thor.

    That would be a rather thunderous middle of the order with a lot of speed at the top.

  31. bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    “…
    But it’s a fallacy that this team is always going to live or die based on pitching. This is an organization that has won 27 championships that have primarily been built around offenses that scored a lot of runs.”

    —-

    The above analysis is directed solely to the 2014 Yankees and not a statement about baseball season success in general nor is it meant to undervalue offense in general. If reasonably healthy, the 2014 Yankees will score enough to be successful. I don’t believe they’ll score enough, however, to overcome pitching that’s less than elite. It’s just not in them. That’s why, for this particular team, pitching is key.

    If you get a chance, compare the lineups of the 1950s Yanks to the Brooklyn teams they regularly smacked around in the World Series. Offensively, those Brooklyn teams were superior. The Yanks had better pitching, and a brilliant manager.

  32. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    I’m not a superheroes guy so Ill go with Tanaka.

  33. luis March 19th, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    Good evening,

    Happy birthday RIB..

    BigDan,

    Balance wins…But the Yankees weren’t called the Bronx Bombers because of their pitching… It was good, but what set them apart were their big offensive teams

  34. stillstuckey March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    “I don’t know about a starting defense of superheroes but I’m thinking Flash Gordon would lead off”

    GF, I think you’re confusing Flash Gordon with THE Flash.

  35. Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    Drew’s total WAR for the last 3 years was 2.7.

  36. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    The above analysis is directed solely to the 2014 Yankees and not a statement about baseball season success in general nor is it meant to undervalue offense in general. If reasonably healthy, the 2014 Yankees will score enough to be successful. I don’t believe they’ll score enough, however, to overcome pitching that’s less than elite. It’s just not in them. That’s why, for this particular team, pitching is key.

    —-

    We can only hope they are “reasonably healthy” but that could be asking a lot given the age of the team and adding an injury prone CF to be a difference maker and a guy who hasn’t played 100 games in like 5 years to be their 2nd baseman.

  37. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    stillstuckey March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    “I don’t know about a starting defense of superheroes but I’m thinking Flash Gordon would lead off”

    GF, I think you’re confusing Flash Gordon with THE Flash.

    —-

    I stand corrected. I was never much of a comic book kid.

    Blake would be appalled at my ignorance.

  38. bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    Good evening,

    Happy birthday RIB..

    BigDan,

    Balance wins…But the Yankees weren’t called the Bronx Bombers because of their pitching… It was good, but what set them apart were their big offensive teams

    ——

    I think Murderer’s Row and Bronx Bombers apply more to the teams of the 1920s and 30s. The Stengel teams of the 50s dynasty were not really like that. They had a couple of superstars (Mickey and Yogi) and lots and lots of role players that Casey used brilliantly. And very good pitching. They definitely were balanced teams.

  39. Jerkface March 19th, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    Chapman just got hit in the face by a line drive, hope he is ok :(

  40. bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm
    bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    The above analysis is directed solely to the 2014 Yankees and not a statement about baseball season success in general nor is it meant to undervalue offense in general. If reasonably healthy, the 2014 Yankees will score enough to be successful. I don’t believe they’ll score enough, however, to overcome pitching that’s less than elite. It’s just not in them. That’s why, for this particular team, pitching is key.

    —-

    We can only hope they are “reasonably healthy” but that could be asking a lot given the age of the team and adding an injury prone CF to be a difference maker and a guy who hasn’t played 100 games in like 5 years to be their 2nd baseman.

    —–

    You are absolutely right. I don’t think this team will avoid significant DL time for members of their starting lineup. Which is why I believe that their offensive capability is essentially “capped” and can only contribute so much to the team’s possible success. Hence the importance of elite starting pitching for this particular Yankee team.

  41. Giuseppe Franco March 19th, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    bigdan22 March 19th, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    You are absolutely right. I don’t think this team will avoid significant DL time for members of their starting lineup. Which is why I believe that their offensive capability is essentially “capped” and can only contribute so much to the team’s possible success. Hence the importance of elite starting pitching for this particular Yankee team.

    —–

    That’s a fair assessment.

    Perhaps I shouldn’t have lumped you with those who just mindlessly repeat “pitching, pitching, pitching” while ignoring the decades of facts which don’t support that conclusion.

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    primo,

    Will you be awake for awhile and at home?

  43. luis March 19th, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    Yes, I am not sleeping tonight..I can’t

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock March 19th, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    primo, check your email

  45. luis March 19th, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    I did..I sent you my local number..i believe is cheaper than calling my cell

  46. Mike_Boston March 19th, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    In 2009 the air France flight which went down from Brazil took more than 2 years for them to find the black box at the bottom of the Atlantic.

  47. pete2 March 19th, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    ” Ys Guy March 19th, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    Drew’s total WAR for the last 3 years was 2.7.”

    Jeters was 0 last year, whats that mean, nothing. I mean, you know Drew had a fractured ankle and was not 100% in 2012 yet you use that years WAR as if it meant something. Skip 2012 and replace it with 2010 and his 3 yr total is 9.8. He produced 3.4 WAR last year in 500 PA. In the 2 full seasons he played before the ankle fracture he averaged 3.3 WAR. That’s probably his true talent level. Might be some age related decline, although he is only 31, but 6 WAR over the next 3 years is a pretty reasonable estimate unless he breaks his ankle again.

  48. yankeefeminista March 20th, 2014 at 12:21 am

    Chapman was hit in the face by a batted ball. The game was suspended and he left by ambulance. I pray that he is all right.

  49. yankeefeminista March 20th, 2014 at 12:24 am

    Reds ?@Reds 22m
    Aroldis Chapman is currently at the hospital. We will update you as we have more information. Thank you for all the thoughts and prayers.

  50. Cashmoney March 20th, 2014 at 12:28 am

    Pete 2, there so much assumptions in your 3 WAR x 10 x 2 postulation that I am too lazy to type all of it, for example, we don’t know if Drew WAR would necessary translate in aggregate win total or the fact the Yankee might not make close enough or go over threshold of 90 wins that Drew WAR might be irrelevant to the central promise of your argument in 15 & 16.

    But let’s just deal with 14, you are essentially saying acquiring any players who can generate north of two wins over any position player should be academic as ABC. but can you be absolutely certain that money won’t be better use elsewhere in drafts or acquisition via trade that might very well land you a 2 WAR player over what’s currently in place down the road. but like I said, it doesn’t necessary translate into aggregate win total.

    The idea is here is while Drew makes absolute net sense in terms improving this team albeit marginally, the justification in allocation what very well be reserve money is not all that resounding yay, I like to think we should wait and see what transpire at a later date.

  51. pete2 March 20th, 2014 at 2:06 am

    Cashmoney, or should I say Hal, LOL. Seriously, we obviously have different perceptions on the limits of the Yankee Global Conglomerates financial resources. Between the new taxpayer financed stadiums high ticket prices, reduction in revenue sharing dollars due to the MLB’s exclusion of payments on the stadium debt as taxable revenue (when it is really payments in lieu of real estate taxes), YES revenues and their recent sale of 14% of ownership in YES (still leaving them 20% ownership and about 50 million a year in profits), they have plenty to spend. Yankees payroll + tax obligation is 50 million less than last year (30 million if you count the posting fee for Tanaka) as payroll is at 2008 levels.

    As for the uncertainties you posit, there are uncertainties in any decision. You can only go by probabilities. The beautiful thing about a signing like Drew, as opposed to an Ellsbury for example, is he will have a tradeable contract. A SS who can hit and field is always in demand, especially when draft pick compensation is not required. So if things go south this year, or they have an opportunity for someone better than Drew, they just trade him. His value skyrockets with a good year since it alleviates any unfounded injury concerns and fears last year was a fluke.

    Trades are great, but you still pay, just with players/prospects. With draft pick bonuses pretty much limited, as well as the international free agent market, the Yankees won’t be able to use their financial leverage as much although they plan to go way over on international spending this year before the international draft is agreed to

    Anyways, I know its not going to happen and like you say, maybe they won’t regret it and win the division anyways, or they lose it by enough games he would not have mattered, and next year, maybe they find the perfect SS who will make much less than Drews paltry 3/30 (my estimate).

  52. pete2 March 20th, 2014 at 2:12 am

    Last I heard on Chapman he had a broken nose and bone over his left eye was fractured. There was quite a lot of blood per the manger due to a laceration. Never lost consciousness though and could communicate. Staying in hospital overnight for observation obviously.

    Hopefully he won’t suffer any vision loss or brain symptoms (concussion, cereberal edema, etc)

  53. pkyankfan69 March 20th, 2014 at 3:28 am

    Hate to see that with Chapman (or anyone)… Hopefully it’s just the fractures which can/will heal and not anything with his brain.

    FWIW I fractured the right side of my face in 4 places including the orbital below my eye a few years ago. The impact was great enough to crush the nerves in the area so there was a large portion of the right side of my face that was numb for 4-5 month or so. Luckily I didn’t have a concussion or any vision problems or anything. I was able to have surgery around a week after it happened when the swelling went down enough and I was told to give it at least 6 weeks before I did anything sort of athletics again (and of course I wasn’t doing anything where balls would be flying around at high speeds after also.) Even if there are no brain related injuries, which most importantly of all hopefully is the case, I doubt Chapman will be back pitching in games in any less than 2 months, probably more. Very scary for sure.

  54. pete2 March 20th, 2014 at 3:47 am

    And besides the physical recovery there is the psychological. Hard to pitch if you are worried about being hit again. Tough break for him and the Reds. I don’t watch the other league much so don’t get to see him much.

    Like Brandon McCarthy says, they won’t know much more until they do some scans other than X-Rays. I think they usually have to wait for the swelling to go down for best results, although they probably did some already.

  55. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 6:46 am

    yeah, the point was that the guy is always injured, that’s why you dont give him 3 years guaranteed.

  56. RhapsodyInBlue March 20th, 2014 at 6:46 am

    Thank you luis. I hope all is well with you and your family.

  57. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 6:51 am

    And again, i’d bring Drew in, I like him, but cherry picking his stats from his healthy years is fools gold. He’s been injured the last 4 seasons.

    Did the Yankees pay Brian Roberts based on cherry picking his healthy years just because he finished last year healthy? Hell no! So why do it with Drew?

  58. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 6:58 am

    Player A played in 351 games the past 5 seasons.

    Player B played in 368 games the past 5 seasons.

    Which one is Roberts and which one is Drew?

    The answer is: It doesn’t matter their almost identical!

  59. blake March 20th, 2014 at 7:22 am

    “The answer is: It doesn’t matter their almost identical!”

    One is 36 and one is 31 and one was healthy and produced a 3.4 WAR season and a .777 OPS and the other did not though……

    Drew is an injury risk…..but on a 1 year deal it’s not much of a gamble to sign him

  60. Mottsx March 20th, 2014 at 7:28 am

    One cost $2m and signed the other wants Cano money at this point it seems and lifetime haircuts for heyman and boras.

  61. Mottsx March 20th, 2014 at 7:30 am

    Mets offered drew 2 / 20 apparently and he said no on march 19th. Time to put the crack pipe down.

  62. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 7:35 am

    OK lets pay Drew based on last season.

    Last season Drew was able to play a whopping (for him) 3/4 of a season. (.76 actually)

    He is asking for $15M/year.

    $15M times .76 = $11.48M

  63. blake March 20th, 2014 at 7:44 am

    Mottsx says:
    March 20, 2014 at 7:28 am
    One cost $2m and signed the other wants Cano money at this point it seems and lifetime haircuts for heyman and boras.

    No he doesn’t t……I think 1/14 gets him at this point

  64. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 7:54 am

    That Chapman injury is a terrible thing. I never understood how anyone could throw a pitch without going into a defensive position (a la Mike Mussina) after throwing it.

    I drafted in two fantasy leagues this week and I made the point to everyone that I thought the draft was too early, but this weekend’s games pushed everyone to draft now with really two weeks of ST left. I didn’t draft Chapman because i ‘don’t pay for saves’ but I’m worried about the guys I did draft being injured in the next 2 weeks.

  65. blake March 20th, 2014 at 7:55 am

    Hope Chapman is ok…..he’s probably sore today

  66. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Sounds like they may have a fix on where that plane went down.

  67. blake March 20th, 2014 at 8:09 am

    @HardballTalk: New York Daily News trying to paint A-Rod as a deadbeat regarding his legal fees http://t.co/tMElVkKdHI

  68. blake March 20th, 2014 at 8:12 am

    I wouldn’t want to pay those leaches if I were Alex either……they didn’t exactly give him the greatest advice…….

  69. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 8:33 am

    They were leaches when he hired them and thier advice was obviously slanted towards maximizing thier bills and not Alex’s best interests. But that’s Arod’s problem.

    He should hire a lawyer to sue the lawyers he fired….

  70. blake March 20th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Yes Alex…..of course we can win this case where MLB has tons of evidence and everyone else involved pled guilty!!!! For a small fee of course …..

  71. austinmac March 20th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    It is rarely a good idea for a lawyer to sue for fees, especially here. Perhaps, they gave good advice, and he wouldn’t listen. Probably not. I suspect a strong argument can be made they didn’t adequately represent him.

  72. austinmac March 20th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    If the Yankees were to sign Drew, it makes by far the best sense to sign him for two years since they have no SS next year. That would defer the desperate SS need for 2015.

  73. blake March 20th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    On the surface it seems like they gave Alex false hope and led him down a series of Hail Mary moves that cost a lot of money and wasted a lot of everyone’s time

  74. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    But if they sign him for two years they are taking on twice the injury risk.

    This is why i’ve been advocating a one year and a makeable vesting option for a second year based on plate appearances or games played the first year.

    But, since Boras has floated an opt-out after one year, I’d say there’s no way they’d give a team option or a vesting option, and they are already asking for more $ per year than any team thinks he’s worth, so there’s not much chance of that happening.

  75. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 9:02 am

    The Mets need a SS and dont hve to give up thier 1st rd pick but they dont like his price.
    The Tigers would have to give up the sandwich pick they got for Benoit but they don’t thin8k he’s worth it.
    The Yankees would give up a 2nd round pick but they dont like his price.
    The Red Sox are in the same boat and have a rookie (who projects as a 3B) SS and a 88 ops+ 3B. But they dont think he’s worth it.

    It’s not just the draft pick.

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