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Kelleher breaks down the Yankees infield defense

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The Yankees have a first baseman coming off wrist surgery, a second baseman who’s hardly played the past four years, a soon-to-be 40-year-old shortstop coming back from ankle and leg problems, and a third baseman with a total of 12 regular-season stars at the position. It’s an infield with plenty of experience, but also plenty of questions. And infield coach Mick Kelleher is the guy in charge of making sure they’re ready to play the field.

With the Yankees playing a night game in Fort Myers, let’s start the day with Kelleher’s thoughts on the way each of the Yankees infield regulars has looked this season. These are Kelleher’s words.

Mick KelleherON MARK TEIXEIRA
“Teixeira has looked great. He’s done a lot of early work this spring. He’s played a limited number of games, but he looks good. He feels healthy, and I think that’s the main thing. … If you’re a defensive player like he is, a wrist wouldn’t bother his defense. It would bother his hitting, but it’s not (bothering him this spring). That’s where it would be is when he was batting and trying to swing. His defense is every bit as good as it was in 2012. He’s looked great, and he’s worked extremely hard. Let’s just keep it right there.”

ON BRIAN ROBERTS
“Brian Roberts at second base has played extremely well. He’s healthy, and I think that’s the key because if he’s healthy, he’s a good player. … He’s a very good defender. He turns the double play very well. He goes left, goes right, makes all the plays. For years, he was one of the best base stealers in the league and a very good base runner, so (he can move well). He’s been healthy. The workload, he’s handled every bit of it so far. If we just keep him where he is right now, we’ll be happy.”

ON DEREK JETER
“Jeter looks real good. He’s running around. He’s moving around. He’s got no pain. We’re very happy about that. … I was curious but not worried because, if he says he’s good to go, he’s good to go. Right from Day 1, he was moving so much better than he was last year at the end. He still had plenty of arm strength. He worked extremely hard this offseason. That was good to see, first day of camp, how he was moving. And he still looks the same. … Jeet’s range is probably average range now. It used to be way better, but at 40 years old, that’s what it is. But I’ll take (that). He is so consistent, and so good, and can make all the plays.”

ON KELLY JOHNSON
“He hasn’t played much third base in his career, and what I’ve seen so far in spring training — in practice and exhibition games so far this spring — he looks fine. He’s very comfortable at the position. He’s made all the plays that we’ve had in the exhibition games, and that’s all we can go on right now. He likes the position, and he’s done real well, so I’m pleased with what he’s done. And he is too. … He’s got plenty of arm strength. He hasn’t really had to make a real powerful throw year, but real controlled throws. He’s made all the throws with accuracy, and that’s important because when you go from second base to third base, believe me, that’s a long and different throw. He’s handled it great.”

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173 Responses to “Kelleher breaks down the Yankees infield defense”

  1. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Morning all.. for all those tired of hearing about the INF you might want to come back after lunch. ;)

  2. Giuseppe Franco March 20th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    We always read the words “If he’s healthy…” when anyone references Roberts.

    Well, if I had a million dollars, I’d be a millionaire.

  3. Hassey March 20th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Eric Hinske is now a Cubs coach? He didn;t have just enuf left for some team to want him for 1-2 more years?

    I saw him beat us with a extra-inning oppo HR in his RoY season, after, I think, Bernie tied it up in the ninth.

  4. 4TrainNorth March 20th, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Johnson made a nice backhanded play fairly deep and threw a pea over to first against the Sox the other day. Definitely an above-average arm; he made the throw look easy. With a little luck, he could be exactly what we need over there.

  5. Yankee Trader March 20th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Good morning everyone.

    Blake- Still interested in Drew. From NoMaas.org

    “7. Inefficiency: When you are spending $40 million more than the next AL team, there should be no question that you are the top dog in the league — no less a question about whether you are even a playoff team. Yet, since the Yankees have continually overpaid for players, they just aren’t squeezing enough wins out of the dollars they invest. For example, despite the hundreds of millions spent, the club still has an infield that projects to be below-average. The Yankees could easily fix that problem by signing Stephen Drew — and they should — but after blowing their wad, they are now reluctant to spend money even where it would clearly be wise. We’d have no problem with the Yankees out spending everybody at every position. However, if they are going to put artificial restraints on the budget at arbitrary points in time, they need to be much more efficient in player contracts.”

    But now read the entire article while this author pegs the team at 86 wins!

    Can you disagree with a number of their points?

    http://nomaas.org/2014/03/2014.....win-total/

  6. Yankee Trader March 20th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Eric Hinske

    I seem to remember that about every team he played for got into the playoffs. Did he ever win a ring?

  7. 4TrainNorth March 20th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Amazing that Hinske’s highs in just about every offensive category came in his rookie season. That’s gotta be incredibly rare for someone who played over 10 seasons.

  8. blake March 20th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    The Yankees could easily fix that problem by signing Stephen Drew — and they should — but after blowing their wad, they are now reluctant to spend money even where it would clearly be wise. We’d have no problem with the Yankees out spending everybody at every position. However, if they are going to put artificial restraints on the budget at arbitrary points in time, they need to be much more efficient in player contracts.””

    Yup

  9. mick March 20th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    They are saving Drews money for next year when they won’t need him..

  10. blake March 20th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    The infield defense stinks….especially on the left side. Tex and Roberts are fine as long as Roberts stays healthy but their left side is the worst in baseball

  11. Yankee Trader March 20th, 2014 at 9:23 am

    Blake

    Read the rest of the article which believes 86 wins, one more than last years”inflated” total is a possibility.

    Do you agree with some of those points?

  12. mick March 20th, 2014 at 9:24 am

    Roberts should make it to June. Get Drew then .

  13. mick March 20th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Read the rest of the article which believes 86 wins, one more than last years”inflated” total is a possibility.
    ==========
    Their pitching is better.
    They have Beltran, McCann and Ellsbury.
    How can they not do better?

  14. Yankee Trader March 20th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Mick

    I think they can do better. But then there is no more Mo.

    On top of that there’s the age and “fragility” of key players and a very weak bench.

  15. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Interesting excerpt from a NY Post article this morning:

    “Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review first reported the Pirates were open to trading New Jersey native Vin Mazzaro, who like Cervelli is out of options. Two industry sources told me the Pirates also would deal out-of-options pitchers Bryan Morris and Jeanmar Gomez — they’re more protective of Gomez since he can start as well as relieve.

    The Pirates have received positive reports on Cervelli, who is enjoying a stellar spring (.500/.533/.929 in 11 games). Of course, the Yankees like Cervelli, too. However, as the aforementioned talent evaluator said of the Yankees, “I think their biggest concern isn’t their infield, but their bullpen”

  16. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    “I think their biggest concern isn’t their infield, but their bullpen”

    Hear that Blake?

  17. Yankee Trader March 20th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    I’ve got to go.

    Have a great day everyone.

  18. austinmac March 20th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    No thanks on the relievers mentioned from the Pirates.

  19. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    I’d just as soon sign Hanrahan.

  20. blake March 20th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Trader,
    No I think they are more like an 89 or 90 win club as is

  21. blake March 20th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Tackelberry says:
    March 20, 2014 at 9:37 am
    “I think their biggest concern isn’t their infield, but their bullpen”

    Hear that Blake?

    I don’t agree

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    “Did the Yankees pay Brian Roberts based on cherry picking his healthy years just because he finished last year healthy? Hell no! So why do it with Drew?”

    Because Drew costs a draft pick and at this point he’s really superfluous IMO. And unnecessary.

    ***************

    Shame, while I am dreadfully tired about hearing about the infield, I’m not to tired to be heartened by Kelleher’s assessments, which, by the way, have become more and more apparent as we’ve watched ST unfold.

    *****************

    There are always going to be grim reapers who see the negative in every situation. Look to them – whoever they end up being – grumbling throughout the season. I think it has to do with bad childhoods. ;)

  23. blake March 20th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Even if the bullpen is a problem…..it’s MUCH easier to fix that in season that the infield

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    “The infield defense stinks….especially on the left side. Tex and Roberts are fine as long as Roberts stays healthy but their left side is the worst in baseball”

    Not according to Kelleher. Plus I think you really have to go some and do a lot of research to prove that their left side is the worst in baseball, blake. Come on now!

  25. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Even if the bullpen is a problem…..it’s MUCH easier to fix that in season that the infield

    ________________________

    Except that the infield is not anywhere near as bad as you say it is. They’ve looked pretty good this Spring.

  26. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    ANyone with an NCAA pool, good luck with your brackets. I have Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville and Florida as my Final Four.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    tensegrity March 20th, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Sounds like someone is desperately trying to justify their longstanding and tiring position about the Yankee organization.

    LMAO!

    And I’ll LMAO even more at this nonsense when the Yankees march into the postseason.

  28. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    “The infield defense stinks….especially on the left side. Tex and Roberts are fine as long as Roberts stays healthy but their left side is the worst in baseball”

    Problem is, Derek Jeter is your SS and you could put Brook Robinson in this prime at 3rd and Derek Jeter is STILL going to be your SS.

    We also have no empirical evidence to suggest Stephen Drew would be any better in either range or throws at 3rd than Kelly Johnson will be. NEITHER will alter the fact Derek Jeter is your SS.

    So we’ve identified a problem sans a solution.

    Let me repeat – Derek Jeter IS this team’s SS and will be so long as he’s not on the DL.

    So yeah, let’s all complain about that ALL year.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Update on prediction chart. Changes and additions taken up to first pitch of Ys opening day game.

    2014 YANKEE PREDICTION CHART

    1/23 Cashmoney 163
    1/24 RayVT 108
    1/23 Trisha 101
    1/24 Hunger Games 101
    3/12 mnmboys 100
    2/4 Mottsx 99
    1/22 Kelvin 98
    1/24 Blojaldo 97
    1/22 Poetkiosk 96
    1/23 bbb1 96
    1/24 Howler 96
    1/29 Mike-Boston 96
    2/4 DaSaint007 96
    1/23 Chicken_Stanley 95
    1/23 nettles9nc 95
    1/25 Melkman is in hotlanta 95
    1/29 rm 95
    2/4 Hanks Bar 95
    2/25 Tyler 95
    1/23 tomingeoriga 94
    1/23 GregD 94
    1/25 Yanksinvegas 94
    1/30 Munson15 94
    2/20 Charleston Chew 94
    2/21 Felix Unger 94
    2/25 The Straw 94
    3/16 albrown1321 94
    3/17 ac1 94
    1/22 Rhapsody in Blue 93
    1/23 Pete2 93
    1/24 Jmills 93
    1/28 blake 93/147
    2/4 Doc Todd 93
    2/13 Abe Peterham 93
    3/16 CountryClub 93
    3/18 sjb23 93
    1/23 Austinmac 92
    1/24 kd 92
    1/24 MichelleB 92
    2/4 Iron Horse 92
    2/8 Yanks 61 92
    3/16 Magrudor 92
    1/23 FS48 91
    1/23 Locke 91
    1/23 Tabbert 91
    2/4 Oscar Madison 91
    3/16 ecc16 91
    1/23 Upstate 90
    1/25 Y’s Guy 90
    1/29 Deal With It 90
    1/30 longtime 90
    2/5 Your Name Here 90
    3/2 mortl 90
    3/16 Bojo 90
    1/24 Chambliss 89
    2/3 Bronx Zoo 89
    1/23 JimK 88
    1/29 Baby Ruth 88
    3/4 Vineyard Yankee 88
    3/7 joeman 88
    1/30 Your Worst Nightmare 87
    1/24 Comet 86
    1/29 Can of Corn 86
    3/10 Paco Dooley 86
    1/24 PKyankfan69 69

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I find it really hard to equate Derek Jeter’s defense with “stinking”. You can say he isn’t as sharp as we was when he was in his prime. But stinking? That’s ridiculous.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    I also predict that Derek Jeter is going to will himself to have a tremendous year since it’s his last.

  32. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    It’s funny, the pen has been the thing that has worried me least since before the off season started. It would have been nice to add an arm since there were a couple out there, but I never felt it was necessary. Girardi usually finds his guys and is able to work with what he has out there.

  33. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    I started with a 90-97 winning range in my head, but narrowed it to 90-95.

    I’m thinking I feel good about a 91-94 range…. but still can’t make a decision!

  34. CountryClub March 20th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....nd-100680/

  35. CountryClub March 20th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    above link about the upside of the rotation…

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Shame, take your time. Something will come to you and then you’ll go with it. We still have some games to observe so maybe that will help. I did take my prediction down from 103 to 101. I didn’t remember having done that, but I apparently did it pretty early on.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    The pen is what made me the most skitterish but I can be convinced not to worry at this point.

    :)

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    The bullpen is fine. I hope they take Burawa north. Good sign that he hasn’t been assigned yet. “Experience” in the bullpen is way less
    Important when you have live arms that can sink the baseball. We did fine in 2009 using youth out of the pen, including a young David Robertson.

  39. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Pretty sure I picked 92 or 93 last year and we fell well short… I’m tempted to go with the same guess (assuming I can remember if it was 92 or 93 lol).

    The division is going to be tough again this year… I’m trying to factor that in since we’ll be playing those teams a lot.

  40. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    “Not according to Kelleher. Plus I think you really have to go some and do a lot of research to prove that their left side is the worst in baseball, blake. Come on now!”

    40 year old Jeter and a Kelly Johnson who is a 2b and has never even played 3b? Who is worse defensively ?

  41. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    “We also have no empirical evidence to suggest Stephen Drew would be any better in either range or throws at 3rd than Kelly Johnson will be. NEITHER will alter the fact Derek Jeter is your SS.”

    Common sense suggests that a great defensive SS would be better at 3B than a below average 2B like Johnson

  42. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    If Stephen Drew will save our season how bad would we have been? Prolly not that bad.
    He wouldn’t have saved us last year.
    If the team has the injuries it had last year nothing will save it.
    Some are just pessimists, maybe so they can say “I told you so.”
    If it works out great, they are good with that too.
    A win-win situation.
    Some are just sore losers so they brace for the worst and quietly hope for the best.

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    “Johnson made a nice backhanded play fairly deep and threw a pea over to first against the Sox the other day. Definitely an above-average arm; he made the throw look easy. With a little luck, he could be exactly what we need over there.”

    There you go! He has been looking very good over there, I agree. And they keep mentioning that he’s been working hard with Kelleher.

    Here’s my thinking. The Yankees aren’t stupid. And after seeing the acqui$itions they made this offseason, contrary to popular belief, the Yankees aren’t cheap. If at any point they think things aren’t working out, they’ll do what they have to do. But at this point, things are looking good, so why mess with them? And though someone said we have a weak bench, Nunez certainly knows how to play the infield, and Brendan Ryan is worth his weight in defensive gold. Plus there are some gems down below if we get into trouble.

    Vene, vidi, vici!

  44. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Again, Stephen Drew being portrayed as a sure thing.

    This is especially funny when they put this in the article as justification for Drew:

    “but Jeter, Beltran, and Roberts are among the biggest injury risks in baseball.”

    Drew has averaged all of THREE more games/year than Roberts and dozens less than Beltran and Jeter.

    But he ignores that nasty little fact when making the case for the sure thing Drew.

  45. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Doubting the pen is the last thing you should do.
    Girardi has a way with them and we have more than enough arms.
    If someone isn’t doing the job we will have plenty below to bring up.

  46. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    “Except that the infield is not anywhere near as bad as you say it is. They’ve looked pretty good this Spring.”

    I’ll repeat once more…..Enrique Wilson once hit like .500 in spring training. Roberts is fine if he can stay healthy ……Johnson isn’t a 3B and is gonna be exposed playin every day

  47. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    thats over 5 seasons Drew has averaged 3 more games/year than Roberts.

    So by his own words, Drew is “among the biggest injury risks in baseball”

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Shame, I’ll check your prediction from last year.

  49. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    I don’t think Burawa makes the team since he has not pitched above AA yet, but I can see him up at midseason if they need a BP arm. I’d be surprised if Betances is not on this team. I just wonder if they take a 2nd lefty like Cabral or Lewis since Thornton has been so bad this Spring

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    No Maas I think falls shOrt in its pitching projections. The staff is not only really good. It actually has youth being counted on for front & mid rotation. That is entirely a new thing and an overdue one.

    The age of the team and infield defense are deeply concerning.
    I don’t worry about Derek’s bat and the guys they got are all way better hitters than the ready they e been pretending is an offense for
    Two years – bur Robi is better than any of them and will be sorely missed in the order and on the field should have shelled out for him, not signed Ellsbruy and Beltran,et Gardner have CF and Almonte RF

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    “Johnson isn’t a 3B and is gonna be exposed playin every day”

    Since Girardi said that Johnson will be playing more than 3B, I don’t think he’s going to be exposed as being anything but good at what he does.

    Johnson is apparently learning to be a 3B a lot faster than maybe you could have imagined.

    Instead of looking at the downside, look at the upside if you can do it!

  52. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:24 am
    Shame, I’ll check your prediction from last year.

    ————-

    Awesome, thank you!

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Than the trash they e been pretending is an offense

  54. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Nobody says Drew is a sure thing …..he’s a good risk on a 1 or even 2 year deal though

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Shame, you predicted 92 last year. But don’t forget, nobody counted on the extent of injuries that happened, including re-injuries and injuries to the backups! It was really an exceptional year that way. So your bet wasn’t necessarily a bad one, all things considered.

  56. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Name one team that would have overcome the amount of injuries we had last year.
    No team has backups ready to replace 4-5 key starters.

  57. austinmac March 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    A thought–does anyone really think Kelleher would talk negatively about his infield?

  58. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    The staff is not only really good. It actually has youth being counted on for front & mid rotation. That is entirely a new thing and an overdue one.

    ————–

    I’ve been trying to manage my expectations for Nova, Tanaka and Pineda but it really is very exciting that we have all of this potential in our rotation this year. And it makes me a lot more comfortable with the 2015 rotation where you could potentially have Tanaka, Nova, Pineda, CC and pick up a guy or go with Phelps or Nuno with Manny as a possible late season call up. All things considered, I’m really happy with our pitching. Of course, that being said, I was last year as well.

  59. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    92 still seems like a good guess… Tampa won 92 last year and the Sox won 97.

    I think the Sox are a weaker team than they were last year… but they’re still in the 93-95 range if things break right for them. Tampa could put up similar numbers… the O’s are coming off an 85 win season and have improved a bit.

    Hmmm.. decisions decisions…

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    “Doubting the pen is the last thing you should do.
    Girardi has a way with them and we have more than enough arms.
    If someone isn’t doing the job we will have plenty below to bring up.”

    As I said, I’m easily convinced. :) And yes, you are right about that. I think I am probably just suffering separation anxiety in that the pen has such a new look. No more Logan, no more Joba, no more Mo. But I’m good to go, and I’m especially good to go with DRob closing! Yes indeed.

    **************

    blake, they’re really pleased with Johnson’s progress. Does that disturb you?

  61. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Of course, that being said, I was last year as well.
    =============
    Did the pitching let you down last year?

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:35 am

    “A thought–does anyone really think Kelleher would talk negatively about his infield?”

    While not negatively, I think he’d use some words of caution if he felt them. In other words, I think he would temper some of the discussion. “He still needs a little bit of work, we expect him to continue to improve.” Those aren’t threatening. Truth is those guys have looked good. JMO

  63. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:35 am

    “Instead of looking at the downside, look at the upside if you can do it!”

    I’m being realistic

  64. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:32 am
    Of course, that being said, I was last year as well.
    =============
    Did the pitching let you down last year?

    ———–

    Besides CC no.

  65. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    I’m being realistic
    =============
    but you want everybody.

  66. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    And I think those of us who feel okay about things are being equally realistic. If Kelly Johnson had been horrible in ST, I could certainly understand better your skepticism. And then I’d have to agree with you and only hope he would improve. But it’s been the opposite.

    I guess best we can say is time will tell.

  67. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    “blake, they’re really pleased with Johnson’s progress. Does that disturb you?”

    I think what they say is pretty meaningless

  68. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    who ever heard about Scotty Brosius before he came here?
    Some just have too much time on their hands..

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 20th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    I thought pitching was a huge let down last year. Kuroda basically had to carry the pitching and at some point he just plum tired out.

    I’m much more hopeful this year about our pitching. In fact, I’m elated!

    :)

    Later y’all. Off to appointments. (Yes there are times when I actually do work during the day, rather than at night!)

  70. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Besides CC no.
    ===========
    So you were right about their pitching last year, what are you complaining about?

  71. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Kelly Johnson was originally signed as a utility player and a back up plan if Cano left. Now he’s their starting 3B because they haven’t done anything to replace Arod.

    Best case scenario…..KJ and Roberts are decent and they pitch great and get enough production from everywhere else to make the playoffs……worst case scenario the infield is a complete disaster and costs them the season

  72. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    the yankees are a slightly above average team team now like everyone else. one big injury and there is going to be a problem making the playoffs.
    ================
    same goes for the tigers and sox.

  73. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    mick says:
    March 20, 2014 at 10:38 am
    who ever heard about Scotty Brosius before he came here?
    Some just have too much time on their hands..

    Give me Brosius…..a prime age Jeter….prime age Bernie and Posada…..and the pitching staff and rotation that he played with and I’ll be fine with that

  74. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Roberts is having a pretty terrible spring at the plate.

  75. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Give me Brosius
    ==============
    brosius wasn’t brosius till he got here, give KJ a chance.

  76. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:40 am
    Besides CC no.
    ===========
    So you were right about their pitching last year, what are you complaining about?

    ————-

    Um… I’m not?

    What I was saying was as happy as I am to have a good pitching corps, I was last year as well and it didn’t deliver us a playoff contending team.

  77. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    I know spring is the time for optimism and that’s fine…..but this infield has real potential to torpedo the season. There is significant injury and performance risk at all 4 spots.

    Maybe the stars align and it’s not a problem……but with this being Jeters last year and with the money they have spent and with them having lost all their draft picks then Id like for them to have done more to address the situation……you don’t spend as much money as they have and leave such a hole

  78. CountryClub March 20th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Best case scenario…..KJ and Roberts are decent and they pitch great and get enough production from everywhere else to make the playoffs……worst case scenario the infield is a complete disaster and costs them the season

    ———–

    Well, if the infield IS a disaster, Drew wouldn’t be the one to save them. Could he add a win or two to the season? Maybe. But that’s not enough to save the season if the rest of the infield tanks.

  79. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    I was last year as well and it didn’t deliver us a playoff contending team.
    ======================
    So pitching is the key is what you are saying?

  80. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Phil was also worse than I expected but my general feelings on him were that even if he delivered a .500 season and we’d be okay.

  81. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    “Well, if the infield IS a disaster, Drew wouldn’t be the one to save them. Could he add a win or two to the season? Maybe. But that’s not enough to save the season if the rest of the infield tanks.”

    The season is a failure if they miss the playoffs…..1 or 2 wins could be the difference for this team

  82. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    I know spring is the time for optimism and that’s fine…..but this infield has real potential to torpedo the season.
    ========================
    If it does, will Drew be the answer?
    Who else would you get if the entire IF tanks?

  83. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    They shouldn’t let the pursuit of ideal stop them from merely improving if they can…..when you are a bubble playoff caliber team like the Yankees then marginal upgrades are magnified because they literally can be the difference in playing in October and not playing in October

  84. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Drew can’t fix it if all 4 spots fall apart…..but he is good insurance for Jeter…..he is good insurance for Roberts…..and he is an upgrade at 3B if everyone does stay healthy

  85. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    You pessimists have no answers just like the Yankee FO when it comes to calling up the reserves in case the IF collapses.
    Is the OF any better?
    We seem to have reserves ready if the pitching staff tanks but only in the pen.
    The days of us being so much better than anyone else are gone, at least for now.
    No team is that far superior so it seems like an even playing field to me.

  86. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    when you are a bubble playoff caliber team like the Yankees then marginal upgrades are magnified because they literally can be the difference in playing in October and not playing in October
    =============
    So can late season callups from the minors or deals at the trade deadline.
    You can’t predict what your needs will be at this point.
    Drew is overpriced which is why no team has gotten him.

  87. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Is the OF any better?

    ————–

    Significantly, since we technically have 5 big league OFers on the roster plus Zoo in AAA.

  88. blake March 20th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Scenarios in which Drew helps:

    1. everyone stays healthy: Drew is the 3B and SS when Jeter rests. Infield upgrade
    2. Jeter gets hurt: Drew is the SS, Johnson plays 3B and Roberts plays 2B
    3. Roberts gets hurt: Johnson is able to move to 2B because Drew is at 3B
    4. Johnson gets hurt: With Drew he’s the utility guy so it’s not a huge issue

    With no drew…..all of these scenarios are difficult to fix…..you’d have to play Nunez or Sizemore or Anna or somebody that’s not real good

  89. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Significantly, since we technically have 5 big league OFers on the roster plus Zoo in AAA.
    ===========================
    So you are happy with Ichiro as an every day replacement?
    Zo is not a proven major leaguer.

  90. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    blake, not to worry, you’ll be free of me soon enough (10 days), but honestly, I’ve returned here to find your transformation over the last 2 years frankly bizarre.

    I don’t understand either your motivation or what’s a win here for you.

    You incessantly whine (literally dozens, if not hundreds a times a day, every day) about the SAME couple of things. WHY?

    You say it is not to engage your fellow fans in conversation, but just to see yourself post. Okay. So again, what’s a win for you?

    If you’re right, the Yankees (presumably your favorite team) have the worst infield in baseball.

    Okay, fair enough.

    Not seeing the upside there.

    If you’re wrong, you come off looking like a tremendous nag.

    Again, not seeing the upside.

    Again, I’m not suggesting anyone with with a less-than-rosy view of the Yankees SHOULD feel otherwise. You may be right. It’s very possible this is NOT a postseason team. I have no compulsion to try to convince anyone this Yankees team is a sure-fire postseason one. I’m more than willing to wait and see and enjoy MLB baseball as I find that out.

    But whether the Yankees are a good, a bad or a something in-between team isn’t the point. The point is whey would anyone who identified themselves as a fan convinced of how bad they are CONSTANTLY engage in trying to convince others of this too?

    I literally can’t imagine the appeal of the pursuit, but yet, here you (and others, to be fair, are) seemingly intent hour after hour, day after day, clearly discomforted by the fact others don’t share your pessimism.

    Like I say, I’m more than open to considering the possibility you’re RIGHT about EVERYTHING.

    The appeal of being right for you is just utterly lost on me.

  91. mick March 20th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    blake-

    so you would pay any price to get Drew?

  92. bbb51 March 20th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    I’m starting to think blake may be a blood relative of Drew. :)

  93. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    mick says:
    March 20, 2014 at 10:57 am
    blake-

    so you would pay any price to get Drew?

    Of course not……Id pay 1/14 though

  94. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Stuckey,
    Where are you going? Also it’s nice to see that you still don’t get the purpose of sports blogs

  95. mick March 20th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Of course not……Id pay 1/14 though
    ===================
    I guess the Yanks feel there are other ways they could go, if the need arises.
    They seem to like the chemistry.

  96. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Also I didn’t bring up Drew…..I was responding to discussions already started

  97. mick March 20th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    I’m starting to think blake may be a blood relative of Drew.
    ===========================
    Maybe. At least there is a southern bias.

  98. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    I don’t understand either your motivation or what’s a win here for you.

    —————

    LOL!

  99. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Feel free to change the subject Stuckey…..or stand in the corner and chant ” The Yankees are awesome and our opinions are dust in the wind” over and over if you like

  100. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Yesterday we spent significant time discussing super heroes… on today’s agenda I would like to request we discuss the best cartoon characters.

  101. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    March 20, 2014 at 11:06 am
    Yesterday we spent significant time discussing super heroes… on today’s agenda I would like to request we discuss the best cartoon characters.

    I’ll vote Bugs bunny…..what happened to looney tunes by the way ?

  102. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    Since it’s Obvious that the Yanks at this point in time are Not going to sign Drew, the discussion here should center on whether the Yanks should use Cervelli to trade for an infielder to play 3B, or whether they should wait and see how Johnson does, and trade Cervelli for a RP.

  103. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    There is no purpose to discuss anything. All is meaningless…..watch the games and feel nothing

  104. bigdan22 March 20th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    Re-posted from last night–because it absolutely needs to be:

    Even though it’s just about 20 ST games, its still pretty easy to see something I pointed out weeks ago while this Yankee team was being constructed. Despite all the consternation, the team’s projected poor infield defense will have very little impact on the it’s success or failure n 2014.

    There are three reasons for this which I’ve discussed before but it bares repeating: One, even a bad ML infielder is actually very good. The difference between a bad infielder, an average infielder and a good infielder is really not all that significant. Is it one out a game? A half of an out? Or a third of an out? No matter, because that brings me to my second point. If your starting pitching is really good, it can easily swallow the increase in outs resulting from a poor infield defense. And finally, even if poor defense leads to more outs and those outs lead to more runs (which itself is not a given), it’s quite likely given the vagueries of a single game (a microcosm of the complex system that is a season), that the extra runs won’t figure in the outcome of the game. What’s far more impactful with respect to the final result of a given game or given season is pitching. First starting pitching and second relief pitching.

    And when everything is said and done, outside of when Jeter is playing SS, the Yanks’ infield defense is not going to be all that bad. Probably average. I continue to maintain what will drive this Yankee team to success in 2014 will be starting pitching if it is in fact elite which it may be. And what can derail this team, other than injuries, is the bullpen. Pitching, pitching and more pitching. That’s the key.

  105. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    What do you want us to do, feel sorry for you Blake??? Suck it up that you just had your hat handed to you, and move on.

  106. mick March 20th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Pitching, pitching and more pitching. That’s the key.
    ====================
    Most major leaguers believe this but not some iconoclasts here.

  107. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 10:42 am
    Roberts is having a pretty terrible spring at the plate.

    ________________________________

    So is Jeter. What does it mean? really?

  108. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    DONNYBROOK says:
    March 20, 2014 at 11:11 am
    What do you want us to do, feel sorry for you Blake??? Suck it up that you just had your hat handed to you, and move on.

    Lol that’s funny

  109. blake March 20th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    You guys discuss what you wish…..gotta run

  110. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    You start talking defense and this room empties. These stat heads around here have no where to go with the topic of defense. A player has to be absolutely horrible to butcher-it-up at 3B. As long as the guy can consistently make the throw across the diamond to 1B, a mediocre 3B is A-OK.

  111. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Ill take Drew on a one year for $12M or with an option for a second year that vests with 500 PA’s or something for the same amount.

    But at this point, I’d want to deduct for the time it will take him to get into shape, so since he hasn’t even begun ST yet, I’d have to take 2 or 3 weeks worth back for the part of the season that he’s either gonna miss or not be ‘up to speed’ .

    But this is an academic excersize since they have turned down more money than that already.

  112. astrocityfan March 20th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    shame
    although im not really a fan, id have to say mickey mouse. he was one of the first and his iconic association with disney lifts him above all others i think.

  113. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    So is Jeter. What does it mean? really?

    ————-

    Jeter gets more rope. I have already said Roberts looks better in the field than I expected.

    I always liked Foghorn Leghorn.

  114. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Anyway, its clear that ship has sailed. I don’t fear this IF. I fear Texiera and Jeter not being able to produce with the bat up to expectations.

    Francessa said yesterday that he sees the Yankees season hinging mostly on Teixeira and Pineda, and I’d have to agree.

  115. bbb51 March 20th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    Strange that the players I’m most concerned about are CC and Jeter.

  116. astrocityfan March 20th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    I am a foghorn fan myself. I find the older i get the funnier droopy is. I despise tweety and always wanted sylvester to eat the little jerk. Same with coyote. Wil E was the one i rooted for not the road runner.

  117. bigdan22 March 20th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....nd-100680/

    Here is Axisa article this morning on the Yanks developing a pitching staff of young and power arms. He’s speaking of Tanaka, Nova and Pineda.

    In his last start, Pineda sat 89-91. In his last start, Nuno sat 88-90.

    I guess perception and reality are two very different things.

  118. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    astrocityfan March 20th, 2014 at 11:20 am
    shame
    although im not really a fan, id have to say mickey mouse. he was one of the first and his iconic association with disney lifts him above all others i think.

    —————–

    Even though I’m a pure blooded eye-tie, if I ever have a kid he’s gonna be named Mickey.

  119. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    blake,

    I don’t do regular seasons here. The constant hand-wringing in the off-season is ridiculous. When the regular season game threads start its another level entirely of ridiculousness. As should be obvious, I’m as interested in the discourse and interaction between people as I am in baseball, so during the regular season I recuse myself, because frankly there’d be just too much odd, inexplicable human mystery to resist.

    I enjoy baseball. Being around people who clearly don’t enjoy baseball and ONLY enjoy temporary relief when their ‘favorite’ team isn’t losing isn’t the best way to enjoy the season either. And that’s under the best of circumstances.

    A GREAT MLB team wins 3 and loses 2 of every 5 games played, yet some people who see themselves as knowledgeable about the game can’t seem to tolerate those inevitable 2.

    As I say, bizarre.

    But seriously, and I think it’s a fair question – what’s a win for you?

    Does convincing others the Yankees infield in the worst in baseball offer some satisfaction.

    Is just the argument with more optimistic people the appealing thing?

    People say they hope to be wrong, but that’s a fallacy. Nobody really WANTS to be wrong. You want your predictions to come to demonstrate your baseball acumen. But you’ve set up the perfect no-win situation for yourself. You’re right your favorite team stinks, you’re wrong you stink.

    I’m REALLY asking which is the one you’re hoping for?

  120. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    I collected the In-N-Out Warner Bros drinking glasses back in the 70′s, (a few double-doubles also), and always preferred Yosemite Sam.

  121. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:29 am

    Droopy!!!! YES!

  122. astrocityfan March 20th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Yosemite is a classic. The word varmint is sadly out of use :) It still amazes me that one guy did all those voices. The duck season/rabbit season bit with daffy and bugs still makes me lol

  123. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    I’d have to say that my expectations for Jeter and CC are already lowered, so I dont see them being as key as Tex and Pineda.

    But just as great performances by Tex and Pineda can overcome lesser contributions from Jeter and CC, the opposite is also true. DJ and CC can make it alot easier on everybody with bounce-back seasons. And they are both capable of them.

  124. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    I’ve always been a Bugs Bunny guy. Not the 50′s & 60′s Bugs but the early, really obnoxious one with the rounded face.

  125. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Till this Yankee IF plays together for a month, you can’t say what you have. Once upon a time, players prided themselves on putting the ball in play, and forcing the defense to make a play. That no longer is the case. The rising K numbers makes that obvious.

  126. bigdan22 March 20th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    bbb51 March 20th, 2014 at 11:23 am
    Strange that the players I’m most concerned about are CC and Jeter.

    —-

    And you are right to be. And it’s not because their likelihood of possible failure is higher than other players. It’s because there are really no practical alternatives to CC’s or Jeter’s possible poor performance.

    If Roberts turns out to be really bad, or gets hurt in June, the Yanks have options. Maybe they aren’t the greatest, but they are options nevertheless. Hell, if Roberts or Johnson get hurt they might even sign Drew.

    But if Jeter is hitting .210 in June, what are they going to do? And has long as CC is healthy, he’s getting the ball every fifth day.

    As odd as it may seem, for an old, questionable roster like the Yanks, sometimes a season-ending injury to a “key” starter may not be the worst thing.

  127. Hankflorida March 20th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    Two years – bur Robi is better than any of them and will be sorely missed in the order and on the field should have shelled out for him, not signed Ellsbruy and Beltran,et Gardner have CF and Almonte RF

    Alfred, I agree with you on Ellsbury as playing him with Gardener does not fit the Yankee mold. I would have signed Beltran to share both the outfield and DH with Soriano. Cano for the extra years may have been worth it, and the only way the deal of Ellsbury for Cano works out is if we get the 2011 version of Jacoby as paying double for a table setter a year then what we payed Gardener is not a good contract.

  128. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    I like the Bugs cartoon where he encounters Edward G Robinson. That scene where they are dividing the loot around the kitchen table is hilarious.

  129. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:39 am

    Why does everyone have to behave the same way to be enjoying something..?

    My dad went to a Bruce Springsteen concert and sat the whole time. My mom and uncles kept asking if he was having fun and he insisted genuinely that he was. He just expresses it differently. NBD. Move on.

  130. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Is Bart Simpson considered a classic cartoon character at this point..? Or does a show need to stop being produced to be considered classic?

  131. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    I always thought the Tasmanian Devil was pretty cool.. did you know real tasmanian devils make that weird noise he made in the cartoons?

    The Baby Looney Tunes were pretty awesome.

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Stuckey should be banned.

    He’s a troll.

    He uses the word “ridiculous” in his posts, but he’s the ridiculous one.

    Trying to attribute a stance/opinion about baseball on a baseball blog to some underlying psychological flaw is out of bounds, wildly inappropriate, and, to use his words “frankly bizarre.”

    Blake, as well as others here, have opinions about a baseball team. Going off on some archaeological/psychological excavation in an attempt to find the “subtext” of opinions is a colossal, creepy, and weird occupation on a baseball blog.

    I’m tired of reading your creepy, reactionary spazzed out tomes to everything blake writes, here.

    Two years ago, it was luis you trolled. Hey Stuckey – talk about the baseball issues or shut up.

    You, and trisha, who earlier ascribed a certain super-erudite baseball commenter’s analysis here to “unhappy childhood”s, of all things, need to learn enough about the game so you can actually interact on the face value of stated baseball-related opinions, or find something else to do with your time.

    Chad, how about a moratorium on telling people they have some hidden, deep dark psychological motive for their opinions on the Yankees??

    You people who complain about baseball themes here that get re-asserted – at least those are confined to baseball.

    Taking wild swings at people and calling their childhoods unhappy or hinting that they have some secret social disorder – because they question whether the Yankees are playoff bound???

    Who needs the therapy here??

    Go get it – or don’t – but stop using the site to talk away from baseball and stop taking personal shots at people you know next to nothing about personally.

  133. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    My favorite Bugs Bunny episodes are Baseball Bugs, and Buccaneer Bunny!

  134. Tackelberry March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    I take it that troll DillDozer was banned?

  135. bbb51 March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    With CC I’m not as concerned as with Jeter. I think CC could be replaced by Tanaka, or Kuroda or Nova.

    Tanaka
    Kuroda
    Nova
    CC
    Pineda

    If CC pitches like a #4 it could still be ok. Pineda is the wildcard. A good performance by him even with limited innings will be a plus.

    We already know Jeter’s defense will be well below average because of the range, and if his hitting vs rhp is bad again and Girardi keeps him in the #2 spot, that’s bad.

    I’m not as concerned about Tex because he seems healthy, his defense should be good, and I think he could hit enough to be a #5/6 hitter.

  136. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Last word: I’m on three other Yankee sites: NONE of them would tolerate the kind of crap that goes on here and passes for discussion.

  137. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    If Jeter is hitting .210 they have ryan who could hit that much and provide gg level defense. What do they do if Tex is hitting .210?

    And Tex hits in the middle of the order and is much more depended upon for offensive production, so to me, His production is more vital.

    IDK what to say about CC except that the rest of the staff has to step up together to pick up whatever they can.

  138. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    “J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am
    Last word: I’m on three other Yankee sites: NONE of them would tolerate the kind of crap that goes on here and passes for discussion.”
    ==============================
    what ‘crap’ are you referring to and how do the other sites control this?

  139. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    I just don’t understand why people need to be fans of things the same way to be fans.

    We just spent 3-4 months talking about baseball on here when no baseball was being played… clearly this is a group of real baseball fans. If we didn’t love it, why would any of us put any effort into trying to engage in whatever conversation possible regarding it?

  140. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    I didn’t see any of Stuckey’s comments are offensive. I guess some sites don’t let people comment on other people’s comments, but that would stifle alot of discussion.

    i.e. I just commented on what you said about Stuckey, would that not be allowed on these other sites?

  141. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    We’ve witnessed, most of not all of us in its entirety, one of the all-time great baseball careers.

    And it wasn’t a great career minus the ultimate goal like some sports greats. There’s been 6 ideal ends to the season during the course of this great historic career and counting.

    If we can justify and argue that in order to be competitive in the FA marketplace you’re probably going to be sitting on a BAD contract the last 2-3 years of a deal, I think we should all just comes to terms Derek Jeter is going to go out as Derek Jeter this one, last year.

    He’s going to play SS, he’s going to bat 2nd. He may or may not be able to do either well, but he’s going to do them both if healthy, anyway.

  142. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    and for that matter, you commented about Stuckey’s comments, just as Stuckey commented about Blake’s.

  143. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    A lot of people my age were obsessed with Hey, Arnold. I was too deep into 90210 to care. I grew up too fast!!! Sads. :(

    (Donna Martin graduates!)

  144. bbb51 March 20th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am
    If Jeter is hitting .210 they have ryan who could hit that much and provide gg level defense. What do they do if Tex is hitting .210?

    The problem is Ryan is not replacing Jeter in his retirement tour unless he gets injured.

  145. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Shame,

    No one has to enjoy one certain thing. I keep ASKING what the appeal is. I REALLY want to know.

    What’s glaring to me is that question isn’t answered. I can answer why I post what I do and I’m happy to answer it.

    So why can’t people who chant (which is what it is) incessantly negative things simply answer the answer why they do it.

    I think that the question is either unanswerable or defensively ignored is an interesting topic in of itself.

  146. DONNYBROOK March 20th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    If Jeet fails to hit like he used to, he can always “situational hit”, which is what the 2 Hole is frequently used for anyway. The bat of Jeet is Not a concern.

  147. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    If I ever find another person that watched the WB soap opera Savannah (which aired for all of one season – TRAGEDY!) I will die happy.

    I suppose the reason I can’t find other people that have ever seen it would explain it’s demise…

  148. Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    I disagree with many of my favorite posters quite regularly.

    Yet I always look forward to hearing their point of view and debating it when I disagree.

    That’s what we call discussion. Disagreeing with the Blogger or other commenters shouldn’t be grounds for banishment as it was with Pete Abraham. (And I like Pete also as much as I often disagreed with him.)

  149. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    “J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:45 am
    Last word: I’m on three other Yankee sites: NONE of them would tolerate the kind of crap that goes on here and passes for discussion.”
    ==============================
    what ‘crap’ are you referring to and how do the other sites control this?
    ///

    Just what I said: telling people their reasoning is due to an “unhappy childhood,” or implying there’s some mysterious, unsavory “motivation” for a baseball opinion, other than the opinion itself and the poster’s support for that opinion.

    That just needs to be off limits.

  150. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:56 am

    stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 11:54 am
    Shame,

    No one has to enjoy one certain thing. I keep ASKING what the appeal is. I REALLY want to know.

    ————–

    And this has been answered.. People are more than happy to discuss non-baseball related things but with so few storylines things get repetive.

    The same people on the same blog discussing the same subject matter every day is bound to produce that. There is your answer. You’ve been told this multiple times by multiple posters. I’m not sure why this is so confusing to you, tbh.

  151. Shame Spencer March 20th, 2014 at 11:56 am

    :arrow:

  152. stillstuckey March 20th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    “Taking wild swings at people and calling their childhoods unhappy or hinting that they have some secret social disorder – because they question whether the Yankees are playoff bound???”

    I’ve done neither.

    I’ve expressed an opinion about posts solely contained on this blog and ASKED, not assumed, what the appeal is.

    As I say, I find it odd no one can, or is willing, to answer a fair, straighforward question.

    And Chad is of course free to ban me, and unlike Randy, I’d respect it if he did.

    But rest assured, you’ll be free of me when starting gun fires on the regular season either which way.

    But if you want to talk baseball JAP, I asked you several baseball questions the other evening, and we both know why you didn’t respond to them.

  153. J. Alfred Prufrock March 20th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    Ys Guy March 20th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    I disagree with many of my favorite posters quite regularly.

    Yet I always look forward to hearing their point of view and debating it when I disagree.

    That’s what we call discussion. Disagreeing with the Blogger or other commenters shouldn’t be grounds for banishment as it was with Pete Abraham. (And I like Pete also as much as I often disagreed with him.)
    ///

    Accusing someone of having had an “unhappy childhood” does not constitute “disagreement” on baseball.

    Writing an epic post asking someone what their “motivation” is for a fairly rote baseball opinion is not “disagreement” with the opinion, it’s refusing to accept that opinion at face value and addressing it as such.

    Nothing at all to do with “disagreement” about baseball; even heated disagreement.

  154. David in Cal March 20th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Trisha — Please put me down for 88 wins.

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