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Michael Pineda named fifth starter

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 25, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi just announced that Michael Pineda has won the Yankees fifth-starter competition. He will make his Yankees debut next Saturday in Toronto.

Masahiro Tanaka will officially start the fourth game of the season for the Toronto series opener.

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109 Responses to “Michael Pineda named fifth starter”

  1. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    ummmmmm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 41s
    Pineda has no innings limitation this season according to Girardi.

  2. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    River Ave. Blues ?@RiverAveBlues 1m
    Pineda lines up to make his first-ever home start at Yankee Stadium against the Red Sox on 4/10, Tanaka vs. Orioles on 4/9

  3. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    ok, so this is makes more sense…

    Jorge Castillo ?@jorgeccastillo 1m
    No set innings limit for Pineda, Girardi said. Will be a fluid situation.

  4. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    FIX!!!!!

    Erik Boland ?@eboland11 54s
    Girardi said as early as Pineda’s bullpen sessions in Mid February he felt the righty could make the rotation

  5. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 41s
    Pineda has no innings limitation this season according to Girardi.

    ———————-

    I don’t believe that at all.

    I mean, it’s a nice concept and I hope he ends up pitching 200 awesome quality innings. But I’d bet chocolate that he doesn’t.

  6. RadioKev March 25th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Jorge Castillo’s tweet sounds right

  7. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    I don’t buy he has no innings limit at all

  8. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
    ok, so this is makes more sense…

    Jorge Castillo ?@jorgeccastillo 1m
    No set innings limit for Pineda, Girardi said. Will be a fluid situation.

    —————-

    Much better… there shouldn’t be a hard limit on him anyway, prob.

  9. Chip March 25th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    —————

    Maybe, but he deserved it.”

    He pitched well…..Id say based on track record and the spring though if it were an unbiased real competiton then phelps is more deserving of the spot…..he pitched well also and he’s paid his dues. But life ain’t fair and Pineda is the upside guy so it’s the right decision
    —————-

    If you base it on the spring then Pineda had better numbers. But you’re right, this is more about upside than it was about competition. If he’s healthy then Pineda is a mid to top of the rotation starter, Phelps is not. If you can get a guy who could be a 2 or 3 as your 5th starter, then clearly that’s the right move.

  10. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    I think this is the right decision and have said so all along but I do feel bad for Phelps. There really isn’t much more he could have done to crack the yanks rotation…..he pitched well this spring and he reallh deserved it based on the work he’s done but it’s not about fairness…..he will help them in the bullpen but he knows he could be starting for somebody else and that kinda sucks if you’re him……but hey he’s in the big leagues…..not that bad

  11. Tackelberry March 25th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    So it looks like Pineda’s YS debut will be that first game against the Red Sox on April 10. WOW!

  12. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    “If you base it on the spring then Pineda had better numbers. ”

    It’s a really small sample though and phelps faced better lineups…..my point was though that this never was a competition so much as a trial to see of Pineda was healthy……these 5th starter completions never are real competitons…..they know who they want to be the 5th starter before camp evens opens…..it’s just a chance to confirm it’s the right thing to do and make sure everyone is healthy

  13. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Lohud Yankees Blog ?@LoHudYankees 4m
    John Ryan Murphy optioned to minor league camp, but Girardi has not officially named Cervelli as the backup catcher. #yankees

  14. Russell Munson March 25th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Girardi is holding off on naming Cervelli in case they trade him for Tulo.

  15. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Trial by fire with Pineda going against the Sox… definitely looking forward to checking out that start, though.

    @eboland11 Girardi said of Ellsbury being ready for the Opener “I feel pretty good about it” but can’t say for sure.

  16. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 1m
    Ivan Nova’s 6-foot-4 and he’s the third tallest guy in the rotation, fifth tallest on the pitching staff (CC, Pineda, Thornton, Betances).

  17. Patrick March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    I’m not sure if this is a good or bad decision but it certainly makes me more excited to watch the team this year.

  18. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
    “If you base it on the spring then Pineda had better numbers. ”

    It’s a really small sample though and phelps faced better lineups…..

    —————–

    Yeah I don’t love the simplistic evaluation that Pineda pitched better. I think we all knew who they wanted to get the spot and it turned out just like we thought it would – with this being a rigged competition. And that’s okay! I wanna be clear that I feel that way. It’s fine. But the evaluations being spread around that Pineda basically gave them no choice is a little embellishment, IMO.

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  20. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    I’m excited for the season to start, and I’m excited about our rotation. I’m excited that if someone falters, there are two guys to step in right away in Phelps and Warren.

    It was definitely Pineda’s spot to lose. He would have had to come up injured, or really stunk it up for Phelps to get the spot. The Yankees always seem to enter these situations with a favorite in mind. And I can’t say it’s necessarily the wrong thing. Especially in this case where you KNOW how versatile Phelps is. Phelps still goes north with the team. He can help in a snap. He’s extremely valuable just where he is.

  21. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Patrick March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
    I’m not sure if this is a good or bad decision but it certainly makes me more excited to watch the team this year.

    —————–

    Basically this is how I feel about it. It makes the beginning of the season more exciting for sure. Especially that early Sox series.

  22. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    A little disappointed that “John Ryan” got optioned, but I think overall that’s the best thing for him – play everyday (or a lot more than he would being a backup up here, anyway).

    Not naming Cervelli as backup just yet is interesting, though. Is there a deal in the works? I don’t really remember Romine’s spring production, though I know he would be able to handle the backup job. Because Cervelli has had a monster spring offensively, no?

    Unless they are just being methodical about how they’re getting information on the final formulation of the team out.

  23. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    I really wish I could read Japanese. Tanaka has an awful lot of tweets and retweets!

  24. DaSaint007 March 25th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    I feel bad for Phelpsy, but it’s the right decision. Pineda currently has a higher upside, barring further injury. Phelps could be the long-man/spot starter (Ramiro Mendoza type) in a bullpen that looks as if it’s shaping up quite well.

  25. Russell Munson March 25th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Phelps should still be the sixth starter, although I guess if he’s in the pen long enough they may not think he’s stretched out enough. He’ll get some starts this year.

  26. Tackelberry March 25th, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    Now just waiting to hear if Betances made the team or not.

  27. CountryClub March 25th, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    The Yanks haven’t used less than 8 starters in a season in like 30 years. Others will get their opportunity. The one I have the most faith in (other than the top 5) is Nuno. I know it’s been a very SSS, but that dude knows how to pitch.

  28. sammiejohnson March 25th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    wallace matthews ?@ESPNNYYankees 14m

    It’s official: Pineda #5, phelps and warren to bullpen,….

    __________________________________

    I am still not certain that I agree with the move to put both the #6 & #7 starters in the pen. Seems like a good idea to keep one or the other stretched out at AAA. Time will tell I guess.

  29. Russell Munson March 25th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Nuno is probably the guy they will keep stretched out.

  30. Chip March 25th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I don’t like having both Phelps and Warren in the pen.

    Forget the fact that the team might need one of them as a starter at some point during the season; from a practical standpoint they have a greater trade value as starters than as long men.

  31. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Tackelberry says:
    March 25, 2014 at 4:40 pm
    Now just waiting to hear if Betances made the team or not.

    He has to right?

  32. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Russell Munson says:
    March 25, 2014 at 4:43 pm
    Nuno is probably the guy they will keep stretched out.

    Agreed and that’s what I would do….phelps and Warren to the pen and Nuno starting at Scranton

  33. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:46 pm
    Tackelberry says:
    March 25, 2014 at 4:40 pm
    Now just waiting to hear if Betances made the team or not.

    He has to right?

    ——————

    Without a doubt. I’d be shocked if he didn’t.

  34. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Between Phelps and Warren at the big league level and Nuno at Scranton they are really 8 deep in guys you feel fairly good about if they have to start a game

  35. astrocityfan March 25th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    this really is the best case scenario. Assuming pineda is effective, the rotation is very deep. If not phelps can step in. I feel good about this and the pitching in general. I think they have a lot of depth in the bullpen as well. (they have to give betances a shot) Now the infield………

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    This afternoon, Jacoby Ellsbury went 1-for-4 with a sharp single, two walks and a strikeout looking during a minor league game. He said his calf felt fine, and he expects to play again tomorrow. Said he has no doubt he’ll be ready for Opening Day.

    Gee, isn’t this exactly what Girardi said?

    Good thing I didn’t take heed of the diagnoses and prognostications of the lohud doctors!

    :)

  37. Mottsx March 25th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    I would take 40 year old Miguel Tejada on a Minor League deal over Nunie!

  38. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....y=news_mlb

  39. blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    “Good thing I didn’t take heed of the diagnoses and prognostications of the lohud doctors!”

    Nobody said he was gonna die or anything …just that there was some cause for concern…..we shall see. Hope he’s ready to go

  40. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
    Between Phelps and Warren at the big league level and Nuno at Scranton they are really 8 deep in guys you feel fairly good about if they have to start a game

    ————–

    It’s kinda weird that amongst this group CC is on the question mark side. I feel really good about a guy that’s never pitched in MLB, a guy that’s probably going to retire after this season, and a guy that’s had a few ups and downs over his career. Pineda and CC are in my question mark box, but the other guys I’m ready to go to battle with.

  41. Russell Munson March 25th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Wow, Ellsbury DH’ed in a minor league game? Sounds like he’s ready to play CF in 162 major league games.

  42. Patrick March 25th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    I would take 40 year old Miguel Tejada on a Minor League deal over Nunie!

    Now now don’t be hasty

  43. blake March 25th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    I’ll take 135 games from Ellsbury and run with it…..

  44. bigdan22 March 25th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    It’ll be interesting to see how Phelps is used in the bullpen. Will he only start innings? Will he pitch multiple innings? Not really having a SO pitch, in my opinion he’s not the ideal middle reliever. Will Warren be used differently than Phelps>

    This is def not ideal for the Phelps’ trade value but the Yanks do not make roster decisions that way. More than likely, Phelps will get multiple starts sometime later this season and have an opportunity to show his potential as a regular starter.

    For those who keep referring to Pineda as having more “upside,” remember this is not the Pineda of the Mariners who threw 96. This is now a two pitch pitcher with a plus slider, average fastball and average command. I’ve seen it written elsewhere that Pineda’s velocity is “creeping up.” It might have gone up a tick from start 2 to 3 but he was back to his apparently normal velocity in his last start, around 90-91.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Pineda is more successful in his first month than later in the season. His slider is truly a dominant pitch. It may take hitters a couple times through to work around it. If during that time Pineda develops more arm strength or more command or a third pitch then he may be more than marginally successful this year. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is more of a rehab year for Pineda and we don’t see the finished post-surgery project till next season.

  45. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Pineda pitched 15 innings to a 1.20 ERA

    Phelps pitched 19.2 innings to a 2.75.

    FWIW

    I absolutely love Phelps. But I certainly understand all the reasons they’re giving Pineda the start.

    Warren is sitting with a 2.08, Nuno with a 1.5.

    The all have pretty sweet stats.

  46. blake March 25th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    It’s kinda weird that amongst this group CC is on the question mark side. ”

    I feel better about CC than I did a month ago …..the fastball isn’t coming back but I feel like he may be on the road to figuring out how to get outs without it…..he should know his stuff much better this year than last

  47. blake March 25th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    I think Phelps will be used sorta as a utility pitcher…..and do lots of things…..

  48. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    “Nobody said he was gonna die or anything …just that there was some cause for concern”

    Over the years I have found that Girardi’s word ends up being true to form trustable when it comes to injuries, precautions etc. But it never fails for this forum to hit the ground running and come up with its own conclusions, usually pretty far afield from the reality.

    Just the way it is.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    OT – watching Jimmy Carter on the David Letterman Show (DVRd from last night.) He is 89 years old and looks phenomenal, and sounds totally presidential. He has a grandson running for governor of Georgia. (Time goes when you’re having fun. It goes even if you’re not.)

  50. tomingeorgia March 25th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    trisha,
    He’s regarded as a footnote (and a joke) down here.

  51. bigdan22 March 25th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    I’m looking forward to seeing what CC will do this year. He’s a smart and proud professional athlete. You put those two things together and you can overcome some diminished skills.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    “trisha,
    He’s regarded as a footnote (and a joke) down here.”

    tom – who the grandson or grandfather? I’m just saying that for someone 89 years old Carter both looked and sounded incredibly sharp.

  53. bigdan22 March 25th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    I’m a little concerned about Kuroda and his age. Really haven’t seen him pitch much this spring.

    Tanaka needs to keep the ball down. But he’s real smart and proud too. He’s got the right stuff.

    Nova might be the thoroughbred on this team. A bit high strung but having the legs to dominate the field.

    Nuno is still the secret weapon. He may have the best command of them all. Saw where Quintana just got a five year deal. Hmmm.

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Another OT – I DRV Seth Meyers every night and even if I’m not interested in his guests, I usually like to catch his monologue but definitely watch for his interaction with Fred Armisen. I think Fred Armisen is absolutely one of the funniest guys I have ever watched.

    :)

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