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Spring Game 28: Yankees vs. Phillies

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 25, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian RobertsYANKEES (15-10-2)
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Carlos Beltran DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Brian McCann C
Alfonso Soriano RF
Kelly Johnson 3B
Brian Roberts 2B
Ichiro Suzuki CF

RHP Adam Warren (1-1, 2.08)

PHILLIES (8-15-2)
Ben Revere CF
Jimmy Rollins SS
Chase Utley 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
Marlon Byrd RF
Domonic Brown LF
Carlos Ruiz C
Bobby Abreu DH
Cody Asche 3B

RHP Jeff Manship (1-0, 2.25)

TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m. ET, MLB Network, YES Network, WFAN

WEATHER: There’s one tiny cloud in the sky. Beautiful night.

UMPIRES: HP Eric Cooper, 1B Vic Carapazza, 3B Ryan Blakney

WHAT TO WATCH: With Michael Pineda set at the Yankees fifth starter, today is basically a bullpen day for Adam Warren, David Phelps and Vidal Nuno (not to mention Dave Robertson, Matt Thornton and Shawn Kelley). Warren and Phelps are basically assured spots in the bullpen, with Nuno in consideration for a relief role as well. … Looking more and more like Mark Teixeira is going to be the cleanup hitter on Opening Day. He’s hit in that spot pretty regularly now that the usual lineup has been out there game after game. … Alfonso Soriano is getting another turn in right field.

OFF THE BENCH: C Austin Romine, 1B Russ Canzler, 2B Eduardo Nunez, SS Dean Anna, 3B Scott Sizemore, LF Yangervis Solarte, CF Adonis Garcia, RF Zoilo Almonte, DH Zelous Wheeler

OUT OF THE PEN: David Phelps, Vidal Nuno, Matt Thornton, Shawn Kelley, Dave Robertson, Matt Daley, Fred Lewis, David Herndon and Shane Greene

UPDATE, 7:39 p.m.: Not a good second inning for the Yankees infield defense. The Phillies have a 1-0 lead on a couple of errors and a ball that Brian Roberts couldn’t come close to stopping.

UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: Solo homers by Ryan Howard and Marlon Byrd off Vidal Nuno have pushed the Phillies lead to 3-0 heading into the bottom of the third. Another near home home run went just foul.

UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: Two things are happening here: 1. The big news of the day was the rotation announcement, and so this game feels even more uneventful than most spring night games. 2. The internet at Steinbrenner Field has never been worse, so even my attempts to update the blog have generally gone nowhere. Just to catch you up — if you’re not watching at home or listening to John and Suzyn — the Phillies are up 5-0. Derek Jeter finally has another spring hit, Brett Gardner has three hits, and Dave Robertson and Matt Thornton have a scoreless inning apiece. The bad news is that the infield defense has been bad, and both Vidal Nuno and Shane Greene — two guys who have been terrific this spring — each allowed two runs.

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190 Responses to “Spring Game 28: Yankees vs. Phillies”

  1. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    My problem is that I do not like when the announcers say this is a team that has to manufacture runs or keep the line moving. I keep thinking of an ideal outfield of Soriano, Beltran with Ellsbury with a real power guy at DH. I would rather have Johnson at 2nd and even if he only hits .230 but can show some RBI’s with 20 long balls and another power bat at 3rd who can hit for a better average then Johnson. With Ellsbury and Jeter the table setters, that gives us seven power player. When reality sets in and I realize that Gardener is here to stay and Roberts takes 2nd base, I am back to 4 table setters with Johnson not giving us the clout we need at 3rd.

  2. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Why cry over spilt milk?

    We have the team we have. And no one can predict what’s going to happen.

  3. BD (Boston Dave) March 25th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    I’m not advocating dumping Phelps.

    But with Warren, Nuno, and more… and Phelps stock is probably rising a bit, they may be able to get a solid piece in return.

    I typically don’t overvalue home players/prospects as much as some (when making hypothetical trade proposals) and I think Phelps has a bright future as a back end rotation guy for the right team.

    But if not, they can obviously use him here in the pen. It just seems like he won’t be able to help the Yanks as much as another piece would that they could bring in.

  4. Joe from Long Island March 25th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Hi Doreen – I trust you and your family are well.

    I hope you and yours enjoy the season. Got to run. Have a good evening.

  5. Giuseppe Franco March 25th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Joe from Long Island March 25th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    GF – hi how are you? Seems like you’re doing well.

    Every now and then I read over comments to Chad’s posts and see your comments, and think of the courage you’ve shown to get where you are. Bless you.

    I agree. I wouldn’t trade Phelps unless it nets a quality starter at second or third.

    —–

    Hi, Joe. Good to see you. Hope you are well.

    The high praise is much appreciated. But the truth of the matter is that I was just sick and tired of lying in a bed unable to move to for several months.

    Lying in bed all weekend watching sports and movies can be fun and relaxing once in a blue moon. But it gets old fast when a couple of days turns into 7 months. I will never allow anything like that to happen again.

    That was 4 years ago already.

    Now I’m in the weight room 5-6 days a week and then baseball practice on Sundays. Baseball season for me starts in April as well. Can’t wait.

  6. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    For all those pushing for trading Cervelli, know this…I hate you all in a very condescending way. I WILL hunt you down eventually if he is traded.

    Other than that, have a nice day!

  7. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
    Why cry over spilt milk?
    We have the team we have. And no one can predict what’s going to happen.

    I am just looking for some more pop in the lineup with what we have, and if Beltran is rested, would you perfer an outfield of Ichiro, Gardener and Ellsbury or have Soriano play the outfield with Cervelli at DH? Things are only what they are, and I am trying to move the pieces around in a Stadium built for home runs.

  8. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Hankinflorida,

    I would prefer a lot if things with the Yankees that are not what they are. :)

    But the thing is, we really do not know How players are going to perform. Cervelli is good, but nowhere near as good as what he’s shown this spring. I would not want Cervelli at DH. This is Florida wind power hat he’s shown. He does have a knack for getting a clutch hit though.

  9. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West March 25th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Through the 5 hole twice in a row for Kelly Johnson. He’s awesome.

  10. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Hank. Lineup construction is a tricky business. A manager has to consider the egos of the players and his own GM. It would be impossible at this point for Joe to sit down Gardner in favor of Soriano to get Cervellis bat at DH and ride the hot streak. For that to happen the offense would need to struggle for a month or so and Cervelli would need to keep hitting in the regular season with limited AB.

    I once saw a guy named Chris Carter, not the one at Houston, hit 10 HR in ST a few years ago. He never amounted to a hill of beans and struggled at AAA that year. I see a 37 yo Alex Gonzalez who never hit much batting over 400. The Tigers traded for him, perhaps swayed by his ST stats, but I am sure Alex Gonzalez comes back to earth. I like Cervelli as a BUC, and he has had a great ST, but not sure he is DH quality.

  11. Jerkface March 25th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Nothing surprising in Pineda making the rotation and Phelps & Warren both being put in the BP. Girardi said as much a month ago.

    I don’t like the idea that Pineda is going to pitch without a limit, but on the other hand I don’t like how disruptive a limit can be to a major league team trying to make the playoffs. Are the Yankees going with the tried and true ‘pitch him until he sucks/dies’ method of player development here?

    He has had trouble maintaining his stuff through a 70 pitch outing in ST, I don’t know if he has the gas in the tank to pitch a full season tbh. I do agree with Patrick though, as I said before I don’t know if Pineda starting in the rotation is best for the team but it is certainly the most interesting from a fan point of view.

    I can’t wait to watch the 3/4/5 spots in the rotation this year. Very exciting from all 3!

  12. Mottsx March 25th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Nunie / KJ will be worst 3b defensive platoon in history. Might as well promote fat Matt Duran from Staten Island.

  13. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Johnsons 2 errors today make 5 this ST. Not sure all have come at 3B but….

  14. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Doreen, I agree with that “you have to dance with who you brung,” and this is the lineup that we have that is less dependent on the three run homer and more on speed and clutch hitting. Will this change from the Bronx Bombers that started last year work in a stadium built for the long ball is the question? I am willing to have the attitude that someone like Chad who comes from Missouri would have, and that is, show me!

  15. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 7:57 pm
    Doreen, I agree with that “you have to dance with who you brung,” and this is the lineup that we have that is less dependent on the three run homer and more on speed and clutch hitting. Will this change from the Bronx Bombers that started last year work in a stadium built for the long ball is the question? I am willing to have the attitude that someone like Chad who comes from Missouri would have, and that is, show me!

    =====
    Call me an existentialist Missourian, but I’ll see it when I believe it.

  16. Doreen March 25th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    I won’t disagree that this is not the type of power hitting team we have become accustomed to. But I would argue that the 2010, 2011 and 2012 teams, that did have power, were severely short-circuited when it mattered most. I’m hopeful,that this lineup could be more dynamic.

  17. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Not having Nick Swisher last season contributed to our missing the playoffs, but if I had it to do all over again as Yankees management, I’d wave goodbye to Swish again. Same deal with Cano. Both are postseason chokers.

  18. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Pete, in your wildest dreams, could you ever fathom an outfield of Ichiro, Ellsbury and Gardener in the House That Ruth Built if Beltran has to sit for a few days to rest an injury.?

  19. warriors1965 March 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    So, will there by any accountability for Jeter this season, or does he have free reign to hit ground ball after ground ball and still bat second?

  20. Mottsx March 25th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Hopefully they realize on jeters day offs that ellsbury Gardner 1/2 will be superior and they will drop him to bottom third.

  21. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    =====
    Call me an existentialist Missourian, but I’ll see it when I believe it.

    Bojo, Sartre would be proud of you as long as you totally take responsibility for this action.

  22. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    ” that did have power, were severely short-circuited when it mattered most. I’m hopeful,that this lineup could be more dynamic.”

    Very flawed lineups. One-dimensional.

  23. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    ” Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Pete, in your wildest dreams, could you ever fathom an outfield of Ichiro, Ellsbury and Gardener in the House That Ruth Built if Beltran has to sit for a few days to rest an injury.?”

    I have had a nightmare or two, and pretty much all of last year was one with Ichiro, Wells and Gardner last year.

    I do have some hope Ellsbury will take advantage of that short porch in right

  24. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    ” warriors1965 March 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    So, will there by any accountability for Jeter this season, or does he have free reign to hit ground ball after ground ball and still bat second?”
    =====================

    Depends on how the team does. If they win, Jeter stays at 2nd. If they lose, Jeter has a couple of months to get straightened out and then change will be contemplated if he still struggles.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Well Texy certainly looks lean but some things never change (pun intended). And Cone’s got to be goofing, calling a 3-2 change up against a lefty-hitting Tex from whoever is pitching for Philthers “gutsy.” I did see though Tex
    Trying to stay back longer on some of those, but him
    Swinging through a 3-2 offspeed pitch is nothing new and it’s certainly not an act
    Of boldness by the pitcher even with two guys on. Maybe though with Tex
    Less
    Bulky he’ll help
    Himself stay back longer and maybe as. Result occasionally find he can shoot the ball into left field. That would
    Be welcome progress

  26. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    ” that did have power, were severely short-circuited when it mattered most. I’m hopeful,that this lineup could be more dynamic.”

    Very flawed lineups. One-dimensional.
    ===========================

    Jeter
    Swisher
    Arod
    Tex
    Cano
    Granderson
    Ibanez/etc
    Martin
    Gardner

    It was a pretty good lineup in my mind. 1st or 2nd in RS from 2010-2012.

  27. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I miss the days of Randy Johnson.

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    DRob is my hero. I absolutely cannot wait to see him close for us.

    I may up my prediction to 103! (And then again I may not.)

    This is going to be a wonderful team, I do predict.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Just tuned in. What decision was made about Phelps and Warren?

  30. Jerkface March 25th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    What decision was made about Phelps and Warren?

    They are in the bullpen.

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    If you like slider batspeed and no contact.

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    “My problem is that I do not like when the announcers say this is a team that has to manufacture runs or keep the line moving. ”

    Hankinflorida – you are the master of your fate and the captain of your soul! (with thanks for William Ernest Henley). You can either listen to announcers and worry yourself to death or you can go into this with an excitement and great sense of anticipation since your players 1-7 can put a bat on the ball. And you have the makings of a dream rotation and strong bullpen.

    I’m guessing that announcers said that the 2011 Sux virtually had no competition and they were all sons of God.

    The games are played on the field.

    *****************

    For all who are queasy about Ichiro, remember that defense counts too. I love the way he gets to the ball, run, jump, or slide.

    :)

  33. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    I have had a nightmare or two, and pretty much all of last year was one with Ichiro, Wells and Gardner last year.

    —————-

    Pete – This made me laugh out loud. Needed that, thanks!!

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Thanks jerkface. I guess that means Nuno will be going to AAA. I certainly hope that’s what it means, only because you can’t try to keep three starters stretched out in the pen.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Lmao @ Bojo’s 7:23 post

  36. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    You figure they might caddie Pineda’s starts… I hate that method but at least Phelps could see some regular work.

  37. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    “Very flawed lineups. One-dimensional.”

    Absolutely and unequivocally disagree. What is one-dimensional about having power, speed, and table setters?

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    So Philthers like Asche -
    Let’s swipe Makiel Franco from them.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Lol

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Shame, where are you in Candy Crush?

  41. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Atta boy, Jeet!

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Would have been slick to have signed Carrrrrlos back in 2005. But George had to have his washed up lefty.

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    YF – that chocolate came as advertised! Yum yum!

  44. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Level 200-something. It tries to alert me to come back and play but lately I’ve been all into Clash of Clans and this sniper game where I was tasked with saving Abraham Lincoln and JFK lol!

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Texy vs Changeup Round Ii

  46. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    That batting order. You have Jeter at the top, Gardner at the bottom & everyone in between, all either power hitters or guys that swing for the fences (Swisher & Martin). Alex & Robinson were both professional hitters, but when it came to the postseason, Cano the postseason choker fell into the same habit of swinging for the fences. Each postseason, we got bounced due to those offenses getting put to sleep.

  47. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Carlos would have been pretty sweet on the 2011 club.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Well?
    What would YOU throw a lefty hitting Texy? :roll:

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    “Level 200-something. It tries to alert me to come back and play but lately I’ve been all into Clash of Clans and this sniper game where I was tasked with saving Abraham Lincoln and JFK lol!”

    LMAO!!!

    Hey the Sux have really lit up the sky this ST, 9-15, bless them!

    :D

  50. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Trisha–

    Can I use multiple aliases too in order to increase my shot at the chocolate prize?

    If so, let’s short cut this. Instead of me creating all the names and logging in and pretending to be a long-time reader, first-time poster, let’s just jump to the names and predictions.

    BojoJr–110 wins
    SonofBojo–109 wins
    BojosRevenge–108 wins
    Ojob–107 wins
    BojosLastStand–106 wins
    BojoComesBack–105 wins
    BojoGoesAway–104 wins
    BojoRidesAgain–103 wins
    BojoComeHome–102 wins
    BojoThePrequel–101 wins
    BojosDaysOfFuturePast–100 wins
    BojosDayOff–99 wins
    Bojoandme–98 wins
    BojoInTheSkyWithDiamonds–97 wins
    BojoHard–96 wins
    BojoInCA–95 wins
    BojoInCT–94 wins
    BojoTheDog–93 wins
    CanofBojo–92 wins
    BojosSockPuppett–91 wins
    BojoPart1–89 wins
    BojoPart2–88 wins
    BojoDonchaKnow–87 wins
    ThelastofBojo–86 wins
    Here’sBojo–85 wins

    There, that should do it. All those marvelous new posters will surprisingly have addresses to my attention if one of them should win.

    :-)

  51. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Shame – We probably beat Detroit, in that case. Needed one bat that had a clue with the bases juiced.

  52. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    March 25, 2014 at 8:53 pm
    Well?
    What would YOU throw a lefty hitting Texy?

    ———————–

    It’s almost comforting knowing some things never change……almost.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    What a quick swing

  54. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    “that did have power, were severely short-circuited when it mattered most. I’m hopeful,that this lineup could be more dynamic.”

    Hopefully the Mariners won’t make the playoffs for the next, let’s say, 10 years. Or as long as they have Cano prior to trying to get out from under that albatross contract.

  55. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    March 25, 2014 at 8:55 pm
    Shame – We probably beat Detroit, in that case. Needed one bat that had a clue with the bases juiced.

    ————————

    I know, right? I like Beltran for this year but I absolutely hate the deal.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Shame – the sad part is, he knows what’s coming. He just can’t do anything with it

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Boji! – you won!!! You don’t even have to be on the prediction chart. You have it covered.

    :)

    I’m thinking next season that I will have only posters who have posted regularly over the previous three innings as part of the chart. Now if multiples sneak in that way, no way I can do anything about it.

    **************

    I’m wondering if Nuno knowing he’s going back down took a little starch out of him tonight. I just looked at the box and it’s was quite unNuno like.

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Think I’ll drop bruceb an email. I hope he’s okay. Maybe just waiting for the season to start.

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    3 years for 36 year
    Old Carrrrrrlos is silly, but he can still hit all day, is
    Fun to watch, and will always have a place in my heart for his unabashed affection and admiration for Bernabe Williams :)

  60. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    My plan worKed!

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Hopefully they don’t find him under the cellar with Erica

  62. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Hankinflorida – you are the master of your fate and the captain of your soul! (with thanks for William Ernest Henley). You can either listen to announcers and worry yourself to death or you can go into this with an excitement and great sense of anticipation since your players 1-7 can put a bat on the ball. And you have the makings of a dream rotation and strong bullpen

    Trisha, I am not arguing against your more efficient hybrid team of speed, pitching and speed with some power bats. All I am saying is that Ellsbury and Gardener playing together with the addition of Roberts and Johnson in the infield is not a balanced team. If Ellsbury gives us his 2011 numbers, your hybrid team is complete. If not, there are holes in the infield.

  63. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Alfred, Leafs sucking at their best. Someone better throw one of those $200 jerserys on the ice to remind 7 million $ David Clarkson what he’s supposed to be wearing; do you think he’ll offer to give some of it back like, Lymon Bostock?

  64. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    March 25, 2014 at 9:02 pm
    Hopefully they don’t find him under the cellar with Erica

    ———————-

    Escandalo!

  65. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    I was glad Clarkie got paid but that was a crazy deal. The Leafs have been a mess for way longer than I expected.

  66. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    McGowan keeps making strides and wants to lay it on the line to start. That’s what I want to hear!

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Doreen – good planning, slinking off to weekday matinees. I Also have no desire for comraderie at these mil games, and really enjoy that there are rarely little ones shrieking and kicking your
    Chair or hitting you over the head while waving giant
    With styrofoam index fingers! We go, sit down and don’t say too much :)

  68. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    So who should Gwyneth Paltrow date next…? Any ideas?

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Escandalo!
    ////

    :twisted:

  70. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Here is my prospective April sched, although I may not get to all these games (but I am crossing my fingers). Think I missed baseball?

    April 3 OD Trenton (Bryan Mitchell) vs. Jays AA team
    April 4 Trenton vs. Jays AA
    April 6 Trenton vs. Sux AA team
    April 7, Opening Day – Yankee Stadium
    April 9, Tanaka’s Bronx debut vs. O’s
    April 10, Pineda’s Bronx debut vs. Sux
    April 13, Yanks and Nova vs Sux ESPN Night game
    April 15 Tanaka’s second home start vs. Cubs
    April 17 Trenton vs. Erie
    April 22, 23 Charleston at Lakewood
    April 24 Trenton vs. Akron
    April 26 Yankees vs. Trout and Co.
    April 29, 30 Yanks vs. “Dontcha Know” and Co.

    I am eating Salazon as I type this. I am in the BSOML. Just kidding. ;)

  71. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Shame, the Leaf mess supercedes my conscious memory. Clarkson has 4 goals.

  72. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Is Prince Andrew still a mess..? That’d be a fun match lol.

  73. pat March 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    darrenrovell
    The @WhiteSox will join the group of teams offering Bacon On A Stick this year pic.twitter.com/7fgJADUdXq

  74. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    jmills – There were some pretty epic matchups between the Leafs and Devils not so far back. At some point your guys started feeling like true rivals. I still hate Tie Domi.

  75. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Dip that bacon in chocolate and just take all my money.

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Alfred, Leafs sucking at their best. Someone better throw one of those $200 jerserys on the ice to remind 7 million $ David Clarkson what he’s supposed to be wearing; do you think he’ll offer to give some of it back like, Lymon Bostock?
    ///

    mills, you have my sympathy. I have my own troubles, as you know, leading the NHL in manpower games lost. I am hoping they don’t rush Letang back – even though his absence probably means another year removed from winning it all in 2009. I don’t want this kid to risk his health; winning the Stanley Cup just isn’t worth the risk.

    Hey, are you a Brian Eno fan at all?

  77. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Tie Domi is a dolt, only good thing he did was take on that Philly fan who fell into the penalty box.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    April 29, 30 Yanks vs. “Dontcha Know” and Co.
    ///

    Crap. I’ll be there. Still in shock

  79. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Overall, nice sked there, fem :)
    ///

    I’ve had it with Kate Smith. Heard this too often in the old Spectrum in the House that Clarke Built to butt-end people in the mouth.

  80. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Brian Eno, the guy from Roxy Music? I like a lot of ambient electronic, horizontal dance, trance work. I used to like driving the elevated Toronto expressway late at night listening to the stuff. Speed added to the whole experience :D

  81. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Shame…..I’m hoping that I’m still on her speed dial….

  82. blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: David Phelps on the role he’d like to have in the pen: http://t.co/EFoLCGMmR0

    Great attitude

  83. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Pruf, yes, it will flat out suck to be there, but it would also flat out suck not to be there. Excited for the season, but I am also not looking forward to saying goodbye to Jeet. Mo was hard enough.

    As for hockey, we have seven minutes to tie this sucker.

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    mills,

    Before and After Science is in the car CD right now :)

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    “Trisha, I am not arguing against your more efficient hybrid team of speed, pitching and speed with some power bats. All I am saying is that Ellsbury and Gardener playing together with the addition of Roberts and Johnson in the infield is not a balanced team. If Ellsbury gives us his 2011 numbers, your hybrid team is complete. If not, there are holes in the infield.”

    If there are holes in the infield and the numbers are made up elsewhere, it won’t matter. That’s IF.

    I’m of the opinion that we have more than enough power potential with the addition of Ellsbury, Beltran, and McCann.

    In any event, since it was shown that all power (Bronx Bombers if you will) did doodly squat for us in the 2011 playoffs – the year the Yankees had the most HR in the majors – I’m totally down with this way of doing business. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s definitely good by me.

    I feel very confident in the team that will be headed north. I certainly respect anyone who doesn’t feel the same way.

    :)

  86. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Alfred, you’d like, Steve Roach – electronic yet organic at the same time ” Quiet Music ” is a must!

  87. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Pat M. – I hear she golfs!

  88. pat March 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Joelsherman1
    To follow up on Ron Blum of AP’s story about likelihood of amended drug rules by Sunday’s US opener. Heard MLB/MLBPA talking but nothing finalized. Parties discussing increased penalties, but heard 1st offense WILL NOT be 100 games. It is currently 50

  89. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    pat says:
    March 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm
    Joelsherman1
    To follow up on Ron Blum of AP’s story about likelihood of amended drug rules by Sunday’s US opener. Heard MLB/MLBPA talking but nothing finalized. Parties discussing increased penalties, but heard 1st offense WILL NOT be 100 games. It is currently 50

    ——————–

    Heh.. Because the players are sick of this stuff (being made public).

  90. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2014 at 9:15 pm
    So who should Gwyneth Paltrow date next…? Any ideas?

    What happened to her marriage?!

  91. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    …Also ” Oxygene ” by Jean Michel Jarre

    ” Imaginary Voyage ” – Jean Luc Ponty

    ” Phaedra “, ” Stratosfear ” and ” Green Dessert ” – Tangerine Dream ( the godfathers of electronic

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Alfred, you’d like, Steve Roach – electronic yet organic at the same time ” Quiet Music ” is a must!
    ///

    I’ll give it a listen. With Eno, it’s the combination of ambient music, wild ironies wrapped in obscure lyrics, that somehow work brilliantly with an elegaic sensibility and a genuine ear for melody. He’s one of those “it’s what you leave out…” songwriters. For example:

    “I stand on the beach…
    Giving out descriptions…
    Different for everyone I see…
    Since I just can’t remember…
    Longer than last September….”

  93. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    “Overall, nice sked there, fem”
    ___
    Mercifully, SWB doesn’t go to Lehigh Valley until May.

    The April weather will likely be brutal though as per usual, but at least there are a few day games in that group. Just hopefully there won’t be any snowouts like the Matsui debut OD game. But that game was well worth the wait. Matsui’s GS was the icing on the cake.

  94. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Matsui’s GS was the icing on the cake.
    ///

    2003! :D

  95. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    I remember my u residence, Trinity, with all those former private school kids with their Bryan Ferry haircuts.

  96. BoJo March 25th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    JMills–You might like Harold Budd. Ambient music…

  97. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Bojo, thanks for the moment – you and it are written down!

  98. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    “Oh cheeky cheeky
    Oh naughty sneaky
    You’re so perceptive and I wonder how you knew.
    But these finks don’t walk too well
    A bad sense of direction
    And so they stumble round in threes
    Such a strange collection.”

  99. Chip March 25th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Pineda was the right call.

    Phelps will be great in a Ramiro Mendoza role.

    If you’re interested in doing a little dreaming, with ManBan throwing 95, picture a 2015 rotation of CC and then four guys under 27 in Nova, Tanaka, Pineda and Banuelos and then 3 big, young hard throwers in the back of the pen in Burawa, Ramirez and Betances.

  100. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Cripes, if chicken comes to visit, the cds have to be cleared from the couch, the poor guy’s going to need somewhere to rest.

  101. blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    Been a lot of talk about Jeter but Tex is hitting .103 this spring

  102. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    If I am Teixeira I am embarrassed. You can say it’s spring training and it doesn’t matter, but 3 for 30 ? It’s hard to say this but Tex’s contract makes Giambi’s contract the best 1B signing ever..

    I just hope Jeter and Tex are not guaranteed 2 and 4 spots in the order. At this point, Tex is a #9 hitter.. strictly a defensive 1B.

  103. blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    “If you’re interested in doing a little dreaming, with ManBan throwing 95, picture a 2015 rotation of CC and then four guys under 27 in Nova, Tanaka, Pineda and Banuelos and then 3 big, young hard throwers in the back of the pen in Burawa, Ramirez and Betances”

    That’s the plan

  104. Chip March 25th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm
    Been a lot of talk about Jeter but Tex is hitting .103 this spring
    ———————-
    Tex never hits in spring

  105. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    ” Selling England by the Pound ” – Genesis

    …” Me, I’m just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk “

  106. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    whomever earlier posted Cano’s post season stats, that was funny.. even as desperate as we are for IF help, I am so glad we passed on him

    wish there were stats that measured clutch and slump on a W/L basis.

    We did a lot to change this team this year, but I am enjoying watching the young guys playing so well more than anything else..

  107. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    YF – “Dead Finks Don’t Talk”! Brian Eno! :)

    Great “song”.

    One of my favorites is China My China:

    China my China, I’ve wandered around and you’re still here
    (which I guess you should be proud of)
    Your walls have enclosed you, have kept you at home for thousands of years
    (but there’s something I should tell you)
    All the young boys, they are dressing like sailors

    I remember a man who jumped out from a window over the bay
    (there was hardly a raised eyebrow)
    The coroner told me ‘This kind of thing happens every day’
    You see, from a pagoda, the world is so tidy.

  108. blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    ———————-
    “Tex never hits in spring”

    spring goes from March 21 to June 21…..yea that’s bout right

  109. j9d March 25th, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    Hello all. I have been completely buried for the past two days and am just coming up for air now. Have not had a chance to look at a thing. Would love to hear views on game tonight. Sounds like lots of infield issues. I have not read through the thread so there may be dialogue earlier. Would appreciate any thoughts on the game. Thanks!

  110. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    “NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    If I am Teixeira I am embarrassed.”

    Small price to pay for 23 million a year. I think he can handle it. He has been in decline since day 1 of his deal, and with the bad wrist the fall could pick up speed.

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    whomever earlier posted Cano’s post season stats, that was funny.. even as desperate as we are for IF help, I am so glad we passed on him
    ///

    The “guy” who posted that is the same one who is outing everyone’s private info, talking about gunning down umpires, and calling posters’ elderly parents at night and harrassing them over and over again.

    His baseball prowess is right up there with his mental stability.

    Cano’s postseason numbers are skewed by 2012. No credible baseball fan is “glad” to not have Cano any more.

  112. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    I’m of the opinion that we have more than enough power potential with the addition of Ellsbury, Beltran, and McCann.

    Trisha, seeing the addition of power from Ellsbury is an important piece of your hybrid team as he did hit 32 homers in 2011. With a power hitting Ellsbury who can turn walks into doubles, you have a super star player and your hybrid team is balanced. Remember that Mantle and Berra meshed with table setters like Billy Martin, Kubec and Boyer and bought championships to the Big Apple. On the other hand, last years Ellsbury playing with Gardner as table setters puts more pressure for the infield to be clutch hitters and clear the table. I think that which ever Ellsbury we get will determine the fate of the Yankees, and I am hoping that your vision of the 2011 Ellbury comes to pass as you were the one who predicted the new hybrid team last season when I was on the opposite side end predicting more of a power team.

  113. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    ” Unsettled Life ” – emperors new clthes ( acid jazz category )

  114. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Cripes, if chicken comes to visit, the cds have to be cleared from the couch, the poor guy’s going to need somewhere to rest.
    ///

    Guess you’d better get to it. Sylvia isn’t into housekeeping ;)

  115. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    ESPN should do a Yankee pitchers version of Anatomy of a Pitch.

  116. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    “Sylvia isn’t into housekeeping ”

    LOL. I would think not.

  117. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    jmills March 25th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    ” Selling England by the Pound ” – Genesis
    ////

    But I prefer Ezra :)

  118. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Chip March 25th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    blake March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm
    Been a lot of talk about Jeter but Tex is hitting .103 this spring
    =======================

    Tex is actually outhitting Jeter the last 30 AB (3-30 vs 2-30)

  119. pat March 25th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    ICYMI: D.Jeter tells @RealMichaelKay& @DonLagreca he wont reconsider retirement, defends Cano’s hustle http://espn.go.com/espnradio/n.....d=10673340 … @ESPNNY98_7FM

  120. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    I agree NYY Girl Penny. The Mariners will soon be regretting that albatross contract. They likely won’t have to deal with Cano’s postseason choking because they probably won’t ever make it to the postseason.

  121. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Hank, I think it’s just that I believe we can win with this team. I wouldn’t have been against more power, don’t get me wrong. It’s that I think we have enough, with the rotation and bullpen we have, to more than get the job done.

    Here’s hoping!

    :)

  122. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Dear Joe Girardi,

    I understand Jeter batting 2nd to get AB’s and even Tex for now but come regular season when games matter, if you keep Tex in the 4th spot you’re just dumb period.

    Ells/Gardner
    Gardner/Ells – either way
    Beltran
    Soriano
    McCann
    Jeter
    Tex
    2B — either
    3B — or

    If Solarte is playing (IF) well then Gardner bats 9th and Solarte 2nd ..

    No other team in BB relies on the L/R lineup as much as Girardi..

  123. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Now that I’m on this find it kick, there’s music I’ve long since forgotten about. Nothing like an archaelogical dig in your own hous. ” Amnesiac ” – Radiohead

  124. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Also, could you imagine someone as lazy and irresponsible as Cano being the next captain of the New York Yankees?

  125. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Man some of you Yankee folks sure would have ran Mantle, Maris, Ford, Pepitone Stotlemeyer and company out of town from 1963 on…..It wasn’t this overly critical in 2008 when it was clear that they weren’t going to play October baseball. Rag, rag rag

  126. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 9:56 pm
    “NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    If I am Teixeira I am embarrassed.”

    Small price to pay for 23 million a year. I think he can handle it. He has been in decline since day 1 of his deal, and with the bad wrist the fall could pick up speed.

    ——

    Yeah, NYY got fleeced but who knew it would be this bad? Remember when we’d hear “Tex carries himself like a business man” and “he is all business” .. I figured it out after he brought honey out to make a line and lead the Bee’s out of the ballpark… the guy has the smarts of sand.

    JAF — Regarding “Cano” if you think Cano is clutch I don’t know what team you’ve been watching these last few years. I’d take him for a 2B no doubt, but his avarice warrants ridicule.. plain and simple his greed cost him his pinstripes.

  127. j9d March 25th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    Okay my friends I looked trough the thread and there is not much discussion about the game tonight nor did anyone bite on Chad’s update about defensive infield mishaps. All good. I didn’t miss a thing from the commenters. I will watch the game on archive tomorrow night when I will have a couple hours of free time.

  128. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:04 pm
    I agree NYY Girl Penny. The Mariners will soon be regretting that albatross contract. They likely won’t have to deal with Cano’s postseason choking because they probably won’t ever make it to the postseason.

    —-

    We are nobody to talk about bad contracts.. Arod, Tex, alone are probably the top 2 in all of baseball.. Pujols and Hamilton are yet to compare due to their contracts relatively new in comparison.

  129. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Here is a question that doesn’t have negative bite to it….

    Should Solarte be given the every day 3B job, or an every day anywhere job ? what would you do with him ?

  130. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    pat March 25th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    ICYMI: D.Jeter tells @RealMichaelKay& @DonLagreca he wont reconsider retirement, defends Cano’s hustle http://espn.go.com/espnradio/n…..d=10673340 … @ESPNNY98_7FM
    ////

    Thanks for posting. I missed the interview. I love it that Derek essentially said people who abuse Cano don’t know jack about baseball or about Cano’s game. Jete was not having any of that sh!t, nor any of the ‘label’ BS that low IQ people create.

  131. Revenge of Stoneburner March 25th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Chip March 25th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
    Pineda was the right call.

    Phelps will be great in a Ramiro Mendoza role.

    If you’re interested in doing a little dreaming, with ManBan throwing 95, picture a 2015 rotation of CC and then four guys under 27 in Nova, Tanaka, Pineda and Banuelos and then 3 big, young hard throwers in the back of the pen in Burawa, Ramirez and Betances.

    *****

    +100

    Add in FA IFers next year from a nice class and you have a nice little team. It’s a great counter to all who complain about not developing a young nucleus – this time around it is in the rotation. SMH

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Pat M – I really think we have a solid team. You don’t need an all star at every position. There’s going to be some nice back up in AAA. And our pitching has the potential to be the bomb.

    I think this is going to be a very enjoyable season!

    Meanwhile, not that ST means everything of course, but Dubrount is sporting a 9.64 ERA and Lackey is sporting a 9.49 ERA.

  133. NYY_Girl_Penny March 25th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Please don’t vote Hillary Clinton for president! On that note, don’t vote for either or of the 2 headed snake.. try something different perhaps ? A 2 party system is not a democracy. GO troops ! er, I mean YANKS!

  134. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    No purpose in throwing bad money (Cano) on top of previously committed bad money (A-Rod, Teixeira) unless the organization is willing to spend an infinite amount of money.

  135. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Cano’s postseason numbers are skewed by 2012. No credible baseball fan is “glad” to not have Cano any more.

    I compared Cano’s next ten years if he stays healthy to what George Brett did when he retired at 40. Now that Cano is playing in a bigger park like Brett did, he should have a higher batting average. As you know, I am rooting for Ellsbury to give us Rickey Henderson numbers. If Ellsbury gives us Richie Ashburn numbers as Ted Williams called him one of the fastest player he had ever seen but was a .300 BA banjo hitter, the Yankees made a bad swap. Let us root for Ells being the second coming of Rickey.

  136. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Look, “Penny” – with all due respect, I have no interest in discussing Cano with you.

    Sorry I responded to your comment at all, my bad. Knock yourself out about Cano’s vices.

  137. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Has Jeter ever insulted anyone publicly? Hasn’t Jeter referred to Alex Rodriguez as a great teammate? What would Jeter have to gain by insulting his friend and – thankfully – former teammate?

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Hank,

    Bless you. Ellsbury, Ricky Henderson?? I do not think so. But sure, let’s root for that.

    And while I’m rooting for that, I will continue to pound the clowns who make these idiotic decisions.

  139. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    “No credible baseball fan is “glad” to not have Cano any more.”

    Need you say more.

    pat, thanks for the link. Glad to see the Captain set things straight, but haters gonna hate.

  140. Hankflorida March 25th, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock says:
    March 25, 2014 at 10:21 pm
    Hank,

    Bless you. Ellsbury, Ricky Henderson?? I do not think so. But sure, let’s root for that.

    And while I’m rooting for that, I will continue to pound the clowns who make these idiotic decisions.

    How about my comparison of Cano to Brett playing in a big ballpark from 30 to 40 years old.

  141. chicken_stanley March 25th, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    good evening all.

    jmills – got your email… LMAO!

  142. sigiqaped March 25th, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    “Any credible Yankees fan is “glad” to not have Cano any more at that price.” Fixed.

  143. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Tricia…..I’ve been a Yankee fan for along time and I have no problem questioning their moves ( Bobby Murcer anyone ) . I do try to understand the logic of certain moves and decisions. However to read the same ragging on the same players to prop up one’s own agenda gets old. Most of the people here are likely to be challenged in running their bank account no less The NY Yankee baseball side of the business.

  144. pat March 25th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Dubrount is sporting a 9.64 ERA and Lackey is sporting a 9.49 ERA.

    As meaningful as Derek and Tex’s BA

  145. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Jeter didn’t just avoid controversy, he pushed back and basically called out criticism of Cano’s work ethic as “lazy” discourse from people who don’t know sh!t.

    Derek is not a sugar coat guy, he just doesn’t suck up to the media or play their games.

    I remember after a game where Alex beasted, and Derek was interviewed on the field, and they were asking him about a couple of other players’ contributions to the game, can’t remember who, but they used the term “star of the game,” and Jeter said, “I think Alex was the star of this game,” rather in an “au contraire” tone – because he knew what crap they were up to, pretending Alex wasn’t the star of the game.

    Derek does not take crap and does not go with the party line and does not stroke management, just like he basically told the FO to eff itself about Jorge, when he said “he has nothing to apologize for.”

    Jeter says what he wants and doesn’t talk when he doesn’t want to.

  146. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    I believe Cano missed like 13 games in his entire career. We might miss that durability before the year is out.

    Games like tonight show the value of HR power. The Yankees had 9 hits and a walk, and the sabermetrics crowd will tell you they created 3-4 runs or so. However, not one of these theoretical runs created crossed the plate. A HR always creates runs, theoretical runs and runs that change the scoreboard.

    HR’s are also more valuable in the playoffs when its hard to string baserunners together against good pitching.

    Yankees might have enough HR power if Tex is healthy and productive and Soriano has a good year, and if Ellsbury regains some power. Have not seen much of it in ST, but we all know ST means little.

  147. SweetSpot March 25th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Thankfully the end of spring training is near and we can get on to games that count! This should be more than an interesting year for so many reasons. Everyone on the team matters but to my mind’s eye, a great deal depends on how Teixeira and Sabathia do. Can’t wait!

  148. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Cito Culver@yaboicito 56m
    Excited for Pineda for being the 5th starter in the rotation. He has been dealing all spring. #stud

  149. pete2 March 25th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    pat March 25th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Dubrount is sporting a 9.64 ERA and Lackey is sporting a 9.49 ERA.

    As meaningful as Derek and Tex’s BA
    ===================

    Ortiz is hitting 053 too, something like that. Ortiz does not play as well when he has “security”. I expect big regression from him. No contract or incentives to play for.

  150. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    How about my comparison of Cano to Brett playing in a big ballpark from 30 to 40 years old.
    ///

    Hank, yes, it’s an apt one, because hitters who are that effortless and have such sound hitting mechanics age extremely well, and that has been my point, too, for several years now, that Cano’s swing will age well, as well as his stress free, silkiness as a defender.

    You are up there on my list of people here who understand, in truly granular fashion, how great a player Robinson Cano is.

    He’s one for the ages, and you understand that as well as anybody here.

  151. luis March 25th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Good evening guys,

    Pat M,

    LMAO!!! Would you put money where your mouth is?..Because I am all for it..Just name the stakes and conditions… Nova will be the ace of this rotation by the end of this season…Pineda will be eventually a BP arm…As for the Betances comment, I stand by it..Granted he hasn’t pitch a single MLB inning and we don’t know how he would fair as an SP in the MLB..But from what I have watched this spring, he has a much better FB than Pineda nowadays, better slider and a good CU from what I saw last season while starting, OTOH Pineda’s is not even an average pitch…Without that third pitch, pinpoint command on that pedestrian FB that it is sitting 89-91, he won’t make the cut long term… You are still salivating about 2011′s Pineda first half…He is NOT that pitcher anymore unfortunately.

    Phelps should have been the 5th starter, there are other reasons for this pick that have more to do with politics than with actual field results

  152. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    Back to Robinson Cano really ??? Cano is not even close to being as good as Albert Puljos and look how absurd that contract is for The Angels……Cano’s deal is going to be dead weight in about 5 years . His best years are behind him and his most expensive years lie ahead. That being said, Cone and Montero together should delight a certain segment of people here to some degree

  153. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Cito Culver@yaboicito 56m
    Excited for Pineda for being the 5th starter in the rotation. He has been dealing all spring. #stud
    ///

    Culver is Jeter and Alex-like in that he pulls for everyone else, is aware of others’ abilities and appreciates them. I am pulling for that kid in the worst way – especially with the whole sorry tale of his father’s arson, etc.

  154. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    j9d, sorry I didn’t see the game except Jeet’s hit on the changeup. And I apparently missed Shane Greene pitch. I know he gave up some runs, but anyone see him pitch tonight?

    Pruf, I’m pulling for Culver too. He’s a genuinely good kid and has a great glove. Let’s hope the Tampa sss RE: hitting translates this season.

    Hi luis, que tal?! I was just catching up on politics (both international and now baseball-wise with your post! ;) ) Dellin’s arm is uber-good; there ain’t no denying that. He’s going to beast this season. I do hope LR keeps having him work on the change in sides. It was a plus pitch for him at one point. Think it would help vs. lefties, and when he was throwing it in the minors, he was darn good at getting both righties and lefties out.

  155. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    Luis , I admire your dedication to those player near and dear to your heart….However, Betances will never I repeat never be a starting pitcher for the NY Yankees. In fact, he’s one wild pitch away with a man on third from a bus trip back across the Hudson….. I root for the guy and if you remember back in 2011 I was mocked overwhelmingly here for pumping up Nova as a ROY prospect. As for money were my mouth is , well that’s not a fair game Luis….I like you, I respect you but that’s an uneven playing field

  156. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    And just to set the record straight: CC, Tex, Cervelli, Robi, Pettitte, Mariano, Jorge Posada, Nunez – ALL have gone on record vouching for Alex Rodriguez as a great/supportive teammate.

    Sabbathia, for example, is very tight with Alex and Posada said “he’ll be my friend forever.” Derek, for all the talk of their schism, did not seem pleased at all that he was getting d*cked around by management/ownership when it came to them trying to act like Alex wasn’t really interested in coming back last year.

    Just like the team supported him when that loser threw at him. Girardi was outraged, Gardner was swinging at people, etc.

  157. luis March 25th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Hi YF!,

    LOL!!!..That’s what I saw from MiLB when I had the chance to watch..That CU was even better than the CB he used to use..But this slider he is using now is very, very good..I saw MLB batters look silly against it this spring… Right now, he has better stuff than Pineda..Maybe not the pedigree or the expectations or the potential impact Pineda could have with the FO…But stuff wise, he has a much better arsenal.

  158. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Alfred, I didn’t know Sundin said that crap, he’s off my list and people around here are going to hear about it.

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    primo!

    Interesting that Dellin’s being somewhat fastball handcuffed. Let the man throw the thing. I do think they have taking away some of that downward movement with the corrections, but there’s still plenty of velo and life there to make him basically unhittable.

    One thing that’s positive, Rothschild wants him to keep the changeup relevant, no doubt because he has an excellent change when he gets to use it.

  160. chicken_stanley March 25th, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    new one ——>

  161. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    chicken, we’ll find some trouble. Luis, always great to hear of you and our F1 fiend, jmv.

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    jmills,

    I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings on him; I know you feel as strongly as I do about that kind of crap, that’s why I had to tell you.

    Yeah, Claude Vilgrain (when he was in New Jersey) was headed into the locker room. I grabbed him and asked him point-blank, because I wanted to hear it from him. He still seemed wounded by it, puzzled by it. Let me tell you – Vilgrain is one of the nicest, most genuine, soft-spoken guys I’ve come across among NHL players. I could feel the hurt myself. That’s why I told you.

  163. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    “Dubrount is sporting a 9.64 ERA and Lackey is sporting a 9.49 ERA.

    As meaningful as Derek and Tex’s BA”

    Not sure that’s a good comparison since these guys will be pitching every 5 days and you can overcome someone’s cold bat since you have other guys to pick you up.

  164. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    But I did preface it by saying “Not that ST means everything”. You may have noticed.

  165. jmills March 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Alfred, and to think he had the C. I’m not hurt, would be if it happened to be, Darryl Sittler. Darryl remains an individual of personal shining strength – a quality that has nothing to do with being an athlete.

  166. luis March 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 10:42 pm
    Luis , I admire your dedication to those player near and dear to your heart….However, Betances will never I repeat never be a starting pitcher for the NY Yankees. In fact, he’s one wild pitch away with a man on third from a bus trip back across the Hudson….. I root for the guy and if you remember back in 2011 I was mocked overwhelmingly here for pumping up Nova as a ROY prospect. As for money were my mouth is , well that’s not a fair game Luis….I like you, I respect you but that’s an uneven playing field

    ===================

    Likewise Pat M! And thank you… I was not saying that Betances can or will be a SP for the Yankees, just that stuff wise, he has better arsenal nowadays than Pineda.

    As for the bet, I very seldom mix feelings with bets..I do believe that Nova has what it needs to become the ace of this rotation..Same goes with Pineda.. I don’t think that a two pitch pitcher can survive several turns of a MLB lineup, unless he has high 90′s gas and a good breaking ball ( which he has in this case )..The problem I see is that his FB is not what it used to be, so he needs a third pitch, plus very good command on the FB..His CU is far from an MLB pitch…So, a 2 pitch pitcher without an overwhelming FB= Reliever… So don’t feel bad if you think is like taking chocolates from a kid…I am a big man and again not influenced by feelings here but by sound reasoning..Or at least what I believe it to be sound reasoning.

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    LOL, it’s so transparent to accuse people of “emotional” calls, even when they back it up with sound baseball reasoning. It’s an attempt to undermine their views, but it doesn’t work, because we all see through it.

  168. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    primo,

    Nova is going to run with it this season.

  169. Pat M. March 25th, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    Luis…Let’s start over so there is no chance for polarizing our LoHud friendly relationship….Let’s keep in mind that Michael Pineda has looked very good this spring, then consider that he’s coming back from missing almost 2 years of playing ball. When one considers that and looks down the road a tad well then it prospect looks very good. I know two guys who watch Pineda pitch last summer on several occasions and they both predicted that not only would he be impressive this March but that he’d be blowing everyone’s mind by summer. He’s a year younger than Betances and 2 years younger than Nova. He’s a huge part of the Yanks future

  170. luis March 25th, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    Pat M,

    Fear not… I was just trying to make a friendly bet, not to antagonize with you in any way… Your post makes a reasonable case… From what I watched ( MLBtv archives ), I don’t think he has pitched that well… Sure he hit a few 93′s and one 94 that I know of, but in order for him to be successful he has to sit 93-94…Perhaps as the season and the weather warms he reaches that plateau, so all this discussion will be for nothing…Also his slider is good, but not ubber good..He needs a third pitch and the CU is far from being ready..Perhaps he needs to look for another offering.

    In the end, I hope I am wrong and you are right…

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