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Pregame notes: Waiting, waiting, waiting (but hey, the lineup is new)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 29, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter, Eduardo Nunez

As instructed, Eduardo Nunez and Yangervis Solarte showed up this morning with no bags packed. They rolled into the Yankees clubhouse around 10:30 a.m. — not together: Nunez first, then Solarte — and got dressed like this was any other spring training game.

The Yankees don’t have to set their major-league roster until tomorrow afternoon, so there’s a chance both will leave here today still not knowing whether they’ve made the team. For whatever it’s worth, Solarte is playing second base and Nunez is playing third base off the bench today. If that tells you much of anything, you’re clearly reading the cards better than I am.

It’s known that Solarte has the ability to opt out. Just a few days ago he indicated that he would be willing to go to Triple-A if he felt it was his best opportunity to get to the big leagues eventually, but at this point the situation has become rather bizarre and hard to predict. Could be a trade. Could be a signing. Could be a DFA. Could be an opt out. Take your pick, the Yankees are leaving every option on the table, and they’re apparently willing to wait until the last possible moment before making a decision.

Derek Jeter· The Yankees are going to have a pregame ceremony to honor Derek Jeter. First of many this season. Today is Jeter’s final spring training game as a player. Kind of crazy if you think about it. The first year the Yankees were in this stadium was 1996, the year Jeter first broke camp on the Opening Day roster.

· Interesting adjustment to the lineup. Putting Jacoby Ellsbury in the leadoff spot was inevitable, and it seemed that Brett Gardner could land anywhere from seventh to ninth. Didn’t really expect Brian McCann to move up to the cleanup spot, though (it’s what I expected when spring trainings started, but Girardi seemed to have settled on Mark Teixeira in that spot. Wonder if Brian Roberts will hit ahead of Kelly Johnson in the regular season.

· Dean Anna is getting a taste of what it’s like to be Jeter’s teammate. This morning, Jeter was giving Anna a hard time about NCAA Tournament picks. It was both merciless and hilarious. Jeter’s good at that sort of thing, treating new players and young players like they’re just one of the guys. It’s unavoidable that he’s Derek Jeter and they’re not, but he manages to use that status to actually make things more comfortable, not less comfortable.

· Danny Burawa and Fred Lewis are each still in big league camp, basically up for the day to serve as just-in-case relievers. Have to think that’s a kind of reward for having eye-opening springs. Matt Daley is also still here, so are Jose Gil, Adonis Garcia and Zelous Wheeler, and Mark Montgomery is up for the day.

· Today’s second string: C Francisco Cervelli, 1B Jose Gil, 2B Yangervis Solarte, SS Dean Anna, 3B Eduardo Nunez, LF Zelous Wheeler, CF (none listed), RF Adonis Garcia

· Today’s scheduled relievers: Dave Robertson, Matt Thornton, Shawn Kelley, Adam Warren, David Phelps, Matt Daley, Vidal Nuno

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89 Responses to “Pregame notes: Waiting, waiting, waiting (but hey, the lineup is new)”

  1. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    If Jeter has to be at the top, vs a righthanded starter I go

    Gardner
    Jeter
    Ellsbury
    Beltran
    McCann
    Tex
    Soriano
    Johnson
    Roberts

  2. dan l March 29th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Jeter needs too prove he can hit right handed pitching for me to want him batting up top. I don’t think he can…so bat him 7th. Give him a bone and bat him third against lefties.

  3. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 11:47 am

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  4. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Ideally everyone hits well so it doesn’t matter much how you arrange them.

  5. pat March 29th, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    #Yankees release LF Kelvin De Leon,

  6. pat March 29th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    FeinsandNYDN
    Seems Mark Reynolds and Lyle Overbay will be platooning at first base for the Brewers. I feel like I’ve seen this act before.

  7. yankee21 March 29th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    The line-up I’d feature against RHP:

    Ellsbury
    Gardner
    Beltran
    McCann
    Soriano
    TEX
    Johnson
    Jeter
    Roberts

    The line-up against LHP I’d feature
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    Jeter
    Beltran
    TEX
    Soriano
    McCann
    Nunez/Solarte
    Roberts
    Gardner

  8. bigdan22 March 29th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    I really think this delay in the 25 is more about Solarte than Nunez. Although Nunie’s dropped down the pecking order, I don’t think the Yanks want to lose him for some reason. But they don’t want to lose Solarte either. The reason why it’s Nunie and Solarte now and not Anna and Solarte is because the Yanks feel Anna is better suited to back up Jeter than Nunie. Anna will most likely be sent down when Ryan comes back, which I guess may be awhile.

    So I think what’s going on is the Yanks want to add Solarte and send Nunie down but they can’t do that until they get a roster spot open. They are probably trying to execute a trade now to free up a spot. If they do, Solarte gets added. If they don’t, then it will be a decision as to whether to release someone like Claiborne and keep Solarte, or add Nunie to the 25 and risk losing Solarte to free agency. I think if there were a 60 day DL option they would have already done that.

    This does show how much Solarte’s stock has risen during ST. They def like him. I’ve pointed out, he certainly doesn’t look like a utility infielder when he’s swinging the bat. He may have some problems though hitting the curve. Seen him beaten badly on a few.

  9. Ys Guy March 29th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Heyman just stole (or at least agreed with) my cinderella pick of the royals in the WS this year.

    Im not changing it.

  10. Giuseppe Franco March 29th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    mick March 29th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Nunez is another who spends too much time on Twitter.
    If he spent that time working on his craft he would be able to hit 1B with his throws.

    —–

    I’ve always believed comments like that are really insulting. Comments like that usually come from people who don’t have an athletic bone in their body.

    Whether you like Nunez or not, he’s allowed to spend his free time anyway he chooses just like the rest of us.

    Perhaps we’ve simply seen what Nunez is at this point and an infinite amount of practice isn’t going to change that.

    It’s not like he didn’t know all Spring Training that he was fighting for a job.

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 29th, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    Gee, no excitement that Ellsbury is back in the lineup? Or are you hiding from the fact that you said he wouldn’t be back for opening day? j/k really. :)

    ***************

    Whatever the lineup is, is fine with me. I am guessing, though, that the Yanks won’t put both Ellsbury and Gardner near the top of the lineup so I think you’ll see one or the other closer to the bottom of the lineup. And that’s fine with me too. I’m fine with letting it be and letting the experts figure it out (meaning the Yankees), but that’s pretty much the way I rock and roll.

    *****************

    Got nothing much more than the prediction chart update. Other than tuning in to get a look at Ellsbury for a bit, I’m going to take advantage of time away for the next few days because I know that once the season starts, I’m focused dead meat.

  12. yankee21 March 29th, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    Isn’t Claiborne on the 40 man?

    If so release him, if there is one area of depth the Yankees have is BP options, that will free up a slot for Solarte if that is the wish.

    The Royals are going to be tough this year, I still think they are a little short in SP (aside from Shields) but they have a number of high-end arms that could pan out, and if a good bit of them do, watch out.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    pat March 29th, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    #Yankees release LF Kelvin De Leon,
    ///

    This was inevitable, since like Melky Mesa he had raw tools that didn’t add up. It’s too bad – unreal arm, quirky OF but real athleticism, and power bat.

  14. bigdan22 March 29th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    If they designated Claiborne, I’m not sure he’d latch on with another team. I think he could come back and be assigned to Scranton. If I’m wrong on the mechanics here, feel free to point that out.

  15. blake March 29th, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    I don’t know that the Royals are really a cinderella team…..I mean they won 86 games last year and are young. They could pass The tigers quick if they screw around and the royals all grow up together

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 29th, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Updated prediction chart.

    Additions or changes due by first pitch of Opening Day. Please put my name in the post so that I don’t miss it.

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  17. yankee21 March 29th, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    One of the challenges NY faces is Cashman trades with very few teams, basically the Mariners, Indians, or Pirates. Occasional deal with DET, ATL, CHW or SF but that’s about it.

    For example it is amazing that NY and ARI have not been able to get together on a trade despite Towers relationship with the Yankees and both of these teams having what each other needs; B/U Catcher for ARI, a young SS for NY.

    Strange to me but its like the other 22 teams do not exist for the Yankees when it comes to trade talks- I imagine some of that is attributed to teams shying away from wanting to risk helping the Yankees out.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    They could pass The tigers quick if they screw around and the royals all grow up together
    ////

    That’s what Jeter, Posada, Bernie, Mo and Andy did in the late-90s. We’ll never see that again, but I hope there’s a nucleus a few years away of some combo of Andujar/Jags-Feliz/Gumbs-Avelino-Sanchez/Murphy/Torrens-Williams/Heathcott-Almonte/ Flores/Austin to go with the young pitching staff. Way more profound a rooting experience, IMO, especially as they mature as a group.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    For example it is amazing that NY and ARI have not been able to get together on a trade despite Towers relationship with the Yankees and both of these teams having what each other needs; B/U Catcher for ARI, a young SS for NY.
    ///

    That may yet happen. The Yankees could also put Betances in the package, since Towers has always liked him and would, I’m sure, have the long view of returning him to a starting role. Whatever route they go, the Yankees have to find a way to upgrade the infield.

  20. Chad Jennings March 29th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Yankees say first pitch is pushed back to 1:15 p.m. I’ll be stunned if they play at all.

  21. blake March 29th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    “For example it is amazing that NY and ARI have not been able to get together on a trade despite Towers relationship with the Yankees and both of these teams having what each other needs; B/U Catcher for ARI, a young SS for NY”

    You’d think…..my guess is that Towers wants Owings to be the SS and he’s having a hard time selling Didi for a price that won’t make him look silly for trading so much for him a year ago

  22. blake March 29th, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    They can’t trade Betances at this point unless a serious piece is coming back…..Betances might be a huge factor in this bullpen

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    Yeah but Betances, valued properly as a starter, could help them put forth a package that would pull back a young MIF, and if anyone would view him that way, it would be Towers.

    I don’t want Dellin to move (although if he had a chance to be earn a starting job, I’d be down with dealin’ Dellin :) ), just saying Towers knows he has front-end of rotation talent. The infleld is seriously mediocre, and Avelino/Jags/Andujar/Gumbs etc are too far away.

  24. Chad Jennings March 29th, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    Tanaka just got the Dawson Award as the best rookie in camp.

    Jeter and Roberts just took the field to warm up. Tarp is still no the field, but it looks like they’re about to take it off. There’s nothing about the sky that suggests this is remotely a good day for baseball, but I guess there’s a chance they’ll get this thing started.

  25. blake March 29th, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    “Yeah but Betances, valued properly as a starter, could help them put forth a package that would pull back a young MIF, and if anyone would view him that way, it would be Towers.”

    I know we differ on this but I don’t think he’s a starter and I doubt any other execs think he is either…..even if he could theoretically do it they aren’t gonna pay starter value for him……however…..a young and cheap back if the bullpen arm is worth a lot too…..both to the yanks and via trade.

    I would need Owings to even think about trading to to Arizona…..I think he has that much potential as a reliever.

  26. blake March 29th, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    I’m the highest right now that I’ve ever been on Betances and it’s simply because they finally have him where he belongs……

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Obviously, I never wanted Betances traded at any point, but being that he’s now being used to get a guy out once instead of 3 times through a batting order, he’s become more trade-able. He’s never going to get a shot at starting here, but Towers would likely view him as re-convertable.

  28. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    To me the question with Betances is, is it pitching from the stretch that made him more consistent or pitching more often (bullpen). My suggestion a while back was for him to ditch the windup entirely…

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Well the front office reportedly was split on the decision, and I side with the naysayers.

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  31. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    Greenberet used to implore the Yankees to have Betances pitch from the stretch full time.

    He started coming around in his last 3 starts, one in which he gave up no hits over five innings.

    If pitching from the stretch is the key to his repeating his delivery for over a year now, but the BP is simply where he can help them most in the short term (highly debatable), well then that’s really a stupid decision.

    It certainly would be worth revisiting, since he has front-end starter weapons and mows down LHB, to boot. But once pigeon-holed around here, that’s the end, as Hamlet would say.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

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  33. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    If Betances has a really good year he could possibly be the closer next year, or at least the eig. So he has significant value imo.

  34. blake March 29th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Anyway I think they should get J Ram up and in the pen just as soon as they can……he’d need more development to start but as a reliever he’s good to go now .

    Him and Betances will Manny B added in September could be quite the scary little back end to add to Robertson…..that’s a St Louis style young and flame throwing pen

  35. bbb51 March 29th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Betances may not become a starter again simply because the Yankees rotation may be set next year.

    CC
    Tanaka
    Nova
    Pineda
    Banuelos

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 29th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    If the game does go, it’s free watching on mlb.com.

  37. blake March 29th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    @eboland11: Fans, thank you for coming and watching the Jeter video and spending your money with us. Now, go home. #Yankees #postponed #springtraining

    Lol

  38. blake March 29th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Game cancelled

  39. Mottsx March 29th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    More time to speculate nunies fate!

  40. pkyankfan69 March 29th, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    No problem…

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    Having an afternoon beer before heading over.

    Is it really too much to ask for for 1 – 70+ degree day where we can sit out on the deck?

    Thankful its not snow but this weather still blows.

  41. bigdan22 March 29th, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    In terms of replacing Jeter, I think the Yanks have their sights set much higher than those AZ guys.

    I was the first person anywhere that I could find that said it was Hal’s plan from the get go to cut the budget significantly this off season, and it had little to do with 189. 189 was a fringe benefit. With Arod’s pay in play, cutting the budget this year was a significant opportunity that he couldn’t pass up. And it’s always been something he’s wanted to do.

    I’m going to be the first one to say something else. Hal is going to raise the budget next year. Significantly. Two reasons.

    First, it’s going to be hard to keep the budget static next year anyway. Not a lot of money coming off. Arod coming back. Have to replace a SS, 2b and probably pay closer money to someone.

    Second, Hal wants something big to replace Jeter. Either a big FA signing or a big trade for a guy on a multi-year deal. He needs to generate some buzz going into next season and this will be it. And Hal has shown, when it comes to spending money on a game-changer, he’s down with that. Example Tanaka.

    So just some more musings while awaiting opening day.

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    pk, yep weather is a downer. Lobster rolls sounds fine. Enjoy

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