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Pregame notes: “We’re going to go a different direction”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 01, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Eduardo Nunez

Today’s roster move wasn’t necessarily the end of the Eduardo Nunez saga, but it’s likely the end of his Yankees career. Being designated for assignment was enough to get Nunez off the 40-man roster and open the necessary spot for Yangervis Solarte, but the Yankees still have 10 days to make a final move with Nunez.

“He possesses a great deal of talent and you can dream on him — and we have — as a potential everyday shortstop in the big leagues,” Brian Cashman said. “All that talent is still there, and I think his versatility does provide for a great deal of choices as a player on a Major League roster. We’ll see what develops in the next 10 days. Obviously when we had him coming up through the system, he was someone that projected to be utilized as an everyday player in the big leagues. At 27 years old, that doesn’t mean that can’t still happen.

“We had that hope that maybe he could develop into something like that as a choice, and at worst a player that the manager in the Major Leagues could utilize different ways. Right now, we’re going to go a different direction and we wish him the best as we look through the next 10 days of making some decisions.”

Cashman acknowledged that the Yankees came into spring training believing Nunez had a very good chance of making the big league roster, and Joe Girardi said that was sent to play shortstop in Triple-A a couple of years ago because the Yankees thought he could be an eventual replacement for Derek Jeter. So where did it all go wrong?

Defensive inconsistency obviously stands out. It was probably the biggest question hanging over Nunez in recent years. Then the Yankees traded for a subsequently re-signed Brendan Ryan, giving them a proven defensive option at shortstop. Then Dean Anna came over in a small trade from San Diego and played well this spring. Then a near complete unknown named Yangervis Solarte had a terrific, impossible-to-overlook spring. Both Cashman and Girardi said that, after Ryan was hurt, the team decided that Anna would be their backup shortstop. They looked at the second utility spot as primarily a second base and third base job, and they felt that Solarte was a better option at those two positions.

“We came to spring training fully expecting Eduardo Nunez to be one of our options at the big-league level,” Cashman said. “But then the other guys said, ‘Hey, look at me.’ … If the configuration of the everyday players were a little different, you might have come up with a different answer. If the left side of the infield didn’t have an Anna, Nuney might be here. There’s a number of different dominoes that led us to this. But hey it’s opening day. Enough on Eduardo.”

With that, it was clear that Cashman was ready to move on. There might be more Nunez news coming in the next few days, but for the time being, it seems clear that his time with the Yankees has come to an end.

Brendan Ryan· The Yankees officially put Brendan Ryan on the disabled list with a “cervical spine nerve injury,” which sounds pretty awful, but it’s basically what we’d heard from Ryan during spring training when he said something was pinching a nerve along his spine. The move was retroactive to March 22, which is as far back as the Yankees were allowed to make such a DL assignment coming out of spring training.

· Girardi said he wasn’t sure what exactly Ryan did today in Tampa, but Girardi did say that he didn’t expect Ryan to begin baseball activities today. It’s probably going to be a while.

· The guys how made their first Opening Day roster will be wearing the following numbers: Yangervis Solarte has No. 26, Dean Anna has No. 45, Dellin Betances has No. 68 and Vidal Nuno has No. 57. Anna originally said he was going with No. 39 — a kind of not to the No. 93 he wore this spring — but apparently he changed his mind.

· Only saw Jacoby Ellsbury for about seven seconds in the clubhouse and he said he was on his way to get some sort of typical treatment on his calf (pretty routine for a guy in a situation like this to continue getting treatment even after he’s playing). “I feel pretty good about where he’s at,” Girardi said. “He has not talked about it. He was able to play the games when we needed him to play, so I feel pretty good about it.”

· Girardi indicated that he plans to get Ichiro Suzuki in the lineup sometime in the next few days. “I think it’s really important,” he said. “I think some of the age of our outfielders and wanting to keep them fresh, we could have a pretty good rotation here. I think it’s really important.”

· Girardi on Opening Day: “I think we’re all excited. I thought we had a very good spring training, and then you leave spring training on Saturday and you have to wait a couple of days to play. I think there’s anticipation. Obviously the games in spring training mean something in a sense where guys are trying to get ready, and guys are trying to make the team, but this is where it really counts. Guys look forward to that competition.”

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116 Responses to “Pregame notes: “We’re going to go a different direction””

  1. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    As I posted the other day…..Nunez is a tweener …..he’s a guy that almost some things well but really doesn’t do anything all that well except run fast.

    He isn’t good enough to be a starter overall and he can’t play defense well enough to be a good bench player…..

    Good luck to him…..maybe the mets will trade for him and try him at SS

  2. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    Heck Nunez isn’t any worse than the guy playing SS for Detroit either…..he’s terrible

  3. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    “Heck Nunez isn’t any worse than the guy playing SS for Detroit either…..he’s terrible”

    Which is why I expect him to be picked up by someone w the need.

    There are several.

    ;)

  4. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Nunez > Dan Uggla

  5. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Once upon a time the M’s wanted Nunez.

    How bout a Cano reunion ?

    I’ll give ‘em Nunez + for Franklin.

    :)

  6. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    But of course so is Pena

  7. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Blake-

    Not w the stick.

  8. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    MTU,
    Uggla can’t hit a lick…..

  9. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Blake-

    He has power that Nunez couldn’t dream about.

  10. exiledintampa April 1st, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    Joe letting us know Ichiro will see a lot of playing time this year.

  11. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    MTU says:
    April 1, 2014 at 5:54 pm
    Blake-

    He has power that Nunez couldn’t dream about.

    Yea but he never hits the ball…..

  12. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Uggla hasn’t hit the last 2 years.

    Before that he was several times the player Nunez was w a bat.

    Last season he still managed over 20 dingers.

  13. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Really Blake-

    How’d he wind up w more than 20 dingers ?

    Guy has power.

    Maybe not much else but power.

  14. blake April 1st, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    I think Rameiro Pena or La Stella will steal Ugglas job pretty quickly in 2014 if he isn’t better…..I know they owe him a lot but they can’t afford to play him if he’s that bad again. He can’t defend and he can’t hit…..at least Pena can play defense

  15. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Hitting 20 homers and being dreadful the other 480 ABs doesn’t help much…..

  16. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Uggla does walk a good bit though so he probAbaly is better than Nunez…..but not by much….

  17. Shame Spencer April 1st, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    I will miss doing a Mr. Bill impression every time Nunez lost his helmet but that’s about as sentimental as I can get about this.

  18. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Whatever you say buckaroo.

    Remember we’re talking Nunez here who does nothing well but run.

    He does have the twin virtues of being young and cheap.

    I really don’t care who grabs him so long as we get a little something in return.

    :)

  19. Shame Spencer April 1st, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Isn’t Pena good somehow all of a sudden? Or am I confusing him with other ex-Yankee INFs?

  20. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Remember we’re talking Nunez here who does nothing well but run.”

    Yes but Uggla doesn’t do anything but hit a few homers and walk some…..I guess 2 beats 1

  21. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    April 1, 2014 at 6:04 pm
    Isn’t Pena good somehow all of a sudden? Or am I confusing him with other ex-Yankee INFs?

    He’s been pretty good for the braves…..he could always play D but he’s hit more than he did with the yanks

  22. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    So is Nuney on waivers as of now or are they trying to trade him?

  23. 28in14 April 1st, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    T minus one hour

  24. pkyankfan69 April 1st, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Is Betances #68 because he is 6’8″?

  25. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    I want something back for Nunez.

    More than a bag of peanuts that is.

    ;)

  26. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Mick-

    Both.

    They have 10 days to try and work out a trade.

  27. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    mick says:
    April 1, 2014 at 6:05 pm
    So is Nuney on waivers as of now or are they trying to trade him?

    They have 10 days to either trade him ,
    Release him, or place him in waivers

  28. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    If he’s on waivers and is claimed isn’t he gone or can we pull him back?

  29. Shame Spencer April 1st, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Good for Pena. Kinda seems like we bet on the wrong horse there, huh?

  30. pete2 April 1st, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Drew can’t be happy about more competition, such as it is. I guess the Mets, Blue Jays and Tigers could take a chance on Nunez given their needs. Maybe Nunez just needs a change of scenery and is a late bloomer.

  31. Shame Spencer April 1st, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Comparing Drew to Nunez might be just what has been needed to get a deal done lol! You can’t tell me other execs don’t see who Nunez was competing against and measure his worth accordingly.

  32. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Shame Spencer says:
    April 1, 2014 at 6:09 pm
    Good for Pena. Kinda seems like we bet on the wrong horse there, huh?

    For sure…..he’s a much better utility player than Nunez

  33. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    It’s really hard to believe Drew hasn’t signed with somebody by now…..Morales too ….

  34. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    If he’s picked up, can we offer a trade and if its refused can we keep him in the minors but off the 40 man?

  35. Shame Spencer April 1st, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    “It’s either a guy that got DFA’d in favor of a bunch of other guys that got DFA’d or me.” – Drew

  36. bigdan22 April 1st, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    exiledintampa April 1st, 2014 at 5:55 pm
    Joe letting us know Ichiro will see a lot of playing time this year.

    —–

    Yup. Signs have been pointing this way for at least 10 days now. He’s not the 5th OF. He’s the 4th. I’m not even sure the Yanks even want to trade him. I predicted the other day he’ll get over 300 ABs. I hope he has a good year.

    Now that they’ve come up right out and said what I surmised a couple hours ago, that Solarte will be used exclusively at 3b and 2b, we def can assume Sizemore is in the picture as well. It will be very easy now to substitute Sizemore for Solarte at the end of the month.

    Mr. Solarte, you are now on the clock.

  37. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    If he’s picked up, can we offer a trade and if its refused can we keep him in the minors but off the 40 man?

    If they put him on waivers and he goes through they can put him in the minors. But they can’t refuse a trade then put him in the minors, I think they’d have to DFA someone else in his place.

  38. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    So if he gets picked up on waivers then he’s gone, without any chance of a trade?

    Or do they have to offer him in a trade then put him on waivers if no team wants him?

  39. Gish April 1st, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Has anyone mentioned yet that Nuñez is the guy that held up the Cliff Lee trade? Absolutely ridiculous.

  40. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Soriano should be the one to play LF if Gardner plays CF and Ells is rested or hurt.
    Unless he’s DHing Beltran, Ichiro will play RF.

  41. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Nunez was never looked at as autility player.
    He became one when they found out he wasn’t good enough to take Jeters job at SS.

  42. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    So if he gets picked up on waivers then he’s gone, without any chance of a trade?

    Or do they have to offer him in a trade then put him on waivers if no team wants him?

    Just read up on it. Nunez was DFA’d. So the team has to either release him, put him on Waivers, or trade him. They have 10 days to make a trade. Once that is up they have 7 days to get him through waivers. They can’t pull him back from waivers. So he is gone no matter what. And if someone selects him on waivers the Yankees can’t make that team then trade for Nunez. The team just gets him.

  43. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 1st, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Gish -

    the guy who held up the Cliff Lee trade was Jack Z! oh and david adams.

  44. Hankflorida April 1st, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    exiledintampa April 1st, 2014 at 5:55 pm
    Joe letting us know Ichiro will see a lot of playing time this year.

    If Ichiro plays with Gardner and Ellsbury, there is stench of last year in the air. Will someone please explain this logic of playing three banjo hitters in the outfield as Beltran is the oldest and probably needs some days off. There is no Cano or A-Rod to balance the lineup, so let Ichiro only replace Gardner or Ellsbury so we can have more pop in the outfield.

  45. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Nunez was never looked at as autility player.

    Yes he was. Thats why he made the roster in 2011. Instead of taking the superior glove man in Ramiro Pena, the Yankees took Nunez with the hopes that he would become a super utility guy.

    If they really wanted him to take over for Jeter, they would have done what I suggested and put him in the minors to play every day at short in 2011. Instead he played basically not at all until Jeter got hurt that year.

    Nunez got 60 PA until Jeter got hurt. He could have had 4x that in the minors with way more innings in the field.

  46. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    Got it JF, thanks.
    So they should try to trade him in the 1st 10 days and if no one wants him they put him on waivers and lose him for nothing unless someone wants him for nothing and is willing to take the chance of losing him to another team.

    I guess they pick by last years standings, worst team 1st.

  47. MTU April 1st, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Hank-

    I agree w you.

    I would not want to see that particular alignment except as a late-inning D replacement, or as absolutely needed.

    At least one of our OF’er’s should have some pop.

    Might turn out to be Ellsbury.

    I’m curious to see how he does w the short porch in range.

    I get your point.

  48. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Looks like Soriano gets shafted in that scenario Hank.
    Last year he played against both rh and lh pitching and played LF every day.
    Now he could be in a platoon with Beltran at DH if they want Ichiro in against certain rightys.

  49. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Yes he was. Thats why he made the roster in 2011.
    =================================
    Unlike a Pena who was never considered a regular, they had hopes for Nunez as one.
    When Nunez didn’t pan out as Jeter’s heir he became a utilityman.
    That is why they let Pena go.

  50. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    I’d rather have Soriano not miss any AB’s.
    If they put him in an Ibanez role it woll be a mistake.
    He has to get regular AB’s doesn’t matter if its a righty or lefty.

  51. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    When Nunez didn’t pan out as Jeter’s heir he became a utilityman.
    That is why they let Pena go.

    They were already making him a utility man in 2011… so you aren’t really making sense here. I do think that they were disappointed that he was unable to become a regular, but they also didn’t develop him as a regular. They basically developed him as if he were just a utility guy.

  52. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Jeter is going yard tonight

  53. blake April 1st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    They tried to make Nunez a utility guy but he couldn’t play defense….then they tried to make him a SS but he couldn’t play defense…..then they tried to make him a 3b but he couldn’t play defense……

  54. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Nunez was simple incapable of learning multiple positions at the same time when it took all of his focus to just play short. The Yankees gave up their chance at having a starting SS by putting him in LF, 3B, 2B, etc.

    There are players who have the talent and fortitude to play through an organizations development mistakes. Then there are guys who have talent but need it cultivated. Nunez clearly has talent, but the Yankees failed to cultivate it.

  55. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    How do you develop him as a regular with Jeter in front of him?
    If he showed more than he did he would still be a utility man this year and take over for him next.

  56. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Nunez was simple incapable of learning multiple positions at the same time when it took all of his focus to just play short. The Yankees gave up their chance at having a starting SS by putting him in LF, 3B, 2B, etc.
    =============
    They only put him in those spots b/c he couldn’t hack it at ss.

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    “Nunez was simple incapable of learning multiple positions at the same time when it took all of his focus to just play short. The Yankees gave up their chance at having a starting SS by putting him in LF, 3B, 2B, etc.

    There are players who have the talent and fortitude to play through an organizations development mistakes. Then there are guys who have talent but need it cultivated. Nunez clearly has talent, but the Yankees failed to cultivate it.”

    I couldn’t agree more. I feel really bad for the guy too because he ended up a pawn in it all and now he is out in the cold. I hope someone picks him up.

  58. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    They only put him in those spots b/c he couldn’t hack it at ss.

    ??? No, because they put him at those spots immediately after he played a pretty good SS in the minors in 2010.

    Go back to the spring of 2011. Nunez was up and coming, he hit .280 in the majors and made 0 errors at short stop in 2010. Instead of letting him grow in the minors in 2011 they made him a super utility guy. He ended up playing SS, 3B, LF, RF, and 2B that year. Thats crazy.

  59. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    The Yankees gave up their chance at having a starting SS by putting him in LF, 3B, 2B, etc.
    ==============
    They only put him there b/c he couldn’t play SS.

  60. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    “They only put him in those spots b/c he couldn’t hack it at ss.”

    Don’t agree at all mick. I think what jerkface said is the reality, and that is that they used him as a total utility player and ever gave him a chance to hone his skills at his primary position.

    This is when I feel resentment toward the organization because IMO it isn’t the first time that a player has become an unwitting pawn in their quest to wring everything they can out of the player – or set him aside and let him rust and then give up on him because he’s not getting the job done. It has happened.

  61. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    If Nunez had the versatility and ability to adapt that Zobrist had, he may have become a great starter type in the majors. He isn’t a zobrist/martin prado type.

    And of course a good portion of Nunez’s failure is on him. But I’m just saying, he was able to field competently in 2010 playing every day at SS, then the Yankees decided to play him sparingly and at multiple positions.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Anyway – this is the last time I’ll be posting this chart and asking for additions or changes. First pitch, chart is closed. :)

    (well depending on what time the game post goes up, I might get it on there also)

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  63. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    “And of course a good portion of Nunez’s failure is on him.”

    I don’t understand this. How?

  64. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Nunez didn’t fail at short stop until after he was used as a super utility guy, so your timeline is wrong. The Yankees blew a chance to develop a major league short stop. Part of that didn’t matter because they signed Jeter for 3 years, but now they are feeling that heat.

  65. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Go look at the amount of errors Nunez made in the minors.
    Astounding and consistent.

  66. Doreen April 1st, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    I disagree. They liked what they saw in Nunez and Thouht he could contribute in the majors. He was not going to play shortstop at the time. Jeter was ensconced at SS. THey felt Nipunez might be Abe to be a sure utility guy.

    You know, the Yankees aren’t these evil people out to ruin careers.

  67. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    I don’t understand this. How?

    Because he lacks the talent and ability to succeed that other players have and did not make the most of his opportunities. If he had hit more it wouldnt have mattered how he fielded. If he hit fielded better he’d still be around.

  68. yankeefeminista April 1st, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Trisha, 93 wins. Thanks.

  69. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Go look at the amount of errors Nunez made in the minors.
    Astounding and consistent.

    He made 10 errors at short in the minors in AAA in 2010 and 0 in the majors.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    “You know, the Yankees aren’t these evil people out to ruin careers.”

    I certainly don’t look at them as evil. Opportunistic, maybe. Misguided in some of their decisions? Maybe.

    But good intentions can still end up hurting careers. Look how many Joe Torre ruined out of the bullpen.

  71. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    You know, the Yankees aren’t these evil people out to ruin careers.

    Is it evil if a human steps on a bug? or swats a fly? Thats what Nunez is basically to the Yankees, a bug. There wasn’t maliciousness in their decisions towards Nunez, but there was a certain kind of lack of care, where they just wanted to try and get the most they could at the major league level out of Nunez rather than thinking what would be the best for his development.

    Its what ruins guys like Joba & Hughes, where you are just talented enough to be noticed at the MLB level but still need to develop some things to become a starter. Thats the hardest thing for a baseball team to balance, should we play this guy & how will it affect him.

    I think they just didn’t care if Nunez would become a SS because they did have Jeter, but they arguably threw away a guys chance at becoming a SS with their actions.

  72. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    he was able to field competently in 2010 playing every day at SS
    =================
    you mean the 23 chances in 11 games he played?

  73. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    you mean the 23 chances in 11 games he played?

    No, I mean the 101 games he played there in the minors.

  74. Doreen April 1st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Jerkface that is correct.

    I can’t count the number of articles i read which talked about someone working with Nuñez on how he throws the ball, his release point, his arm angle, etc. Nuñez and the Yankees did the work. He couldn’t stay consistent defensively.

  75. G. Love April 1st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Just wanted to pop in to wish everyone good luck for what should be a great season.

    Go Yankees!!!

  76. Hankflorida April 1st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:30 pm
    Looks like Soriano gets shafted in that scenario Hank.
    Last year he played against both rh and lh pitching and played LF every day.
    Now he could be in a platoon with Beltran at DH if they want Ichiro in against certain rightys.

    I would rather see Soriano in the outfield if Beltran is at DH with Gardner and Ellsbury, but that means that Ichiro does not get enough playing time unless he replaces either Gardener or Ellsbury. Cannot have three table setters in an outfield at one time as it does not make sense; you need RBI players in the outfield when you do not have them at 2nd, SS and 3rd. Ichiro should only replace Gardner or Ellbury.

  77. 28in14 April 1st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Nunez was never able to field competently.

  78. SweetSpot April 1st, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Finally! Let’s go boys!!!!

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    “Because he lacks the talent and ability to succeed that other players have and did not make the most of his opportunities. If he had hit more it wouldnt have mattered how he fielded. If he hit fielded better he’d still be around.”

    See this is where I disagree with you. When someone’s trying to learn a new position, hitting oftentime suffers and we’ve seen it. And it isn’t that odd for that to happen. The concentration is on the new position, and players themselves will tell you that.

    Nunez got yo yo’d around the field, and people would be upset every time he made an error at a position that wasn’t his primary. When we first saw him up, he looked darned good, as I recall.

    Maybe he didn’t have the skills to be able to learn a new position, field it perfectly, and hit up a storm at the same time, but those skills are rare.

    I feel nothing but sad for him.

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    “Nunez was never able to field competently.”

    Right.

    :roll:

  81. pete2 April 1st, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Well, hopefully Nunez gets picked up by a team that gives him a chance to play SS every day since his bat does not really play at any other position. Yankees will probably want to trade him for a bag of balls to keep him from the Blue Jays.

    Who gets first shot at him on waivers, Mets or Blue Jays, since both had 74 W last year

  82. mick April 1st, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    No, I mean the 101 games he played there in the minors.
    ================
    don’t forget the other 4 errors he made at 2b and 3b
    or the other 166 E’s he made at ss in the minors.

  83. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Basically I think the Yankees saw Nunez as a guy with a lot of talent and thought they could exploit it at the major league level, without realizing just how much effort it took Nunez to maintain an adequate level of fielding at his primary position. It was just a misidentification of the talent.

    You have to understand which guys can hit the ground running, and who needs to be coddled. There are pitchers who can come up to the major leagues and immediately produce. There are pitchers who will need 100 innings to adjust even if they are destroying the minors.

    The Yankees tend to need their prospects to hit the ground running, and I think thats just a flaw in their development strategy. They fail at getting the most out of the guys where extra coaching and precision handling is needed.

  84. mick April 1st, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    G Love good to see you’re back, join the fun, it’s a new civil place .

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 1st, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    “Its what ruins guys like Joba & Hughes, where you are just talented enough to be noticed at the MLB level but still need to develop some things to become a starter. Thats the hardest thing for a baseball team to balance, should we play this guy & how will it affect him.

    I think they just didn’t care if Nunez would become a SS because they did have Jeter, but they arguably threw away a guys chance at becoming a SS with their actions.”

    All of this. And Joba and Hughes are definitely two others I was thinking about.

    “but they arguably threw away a guys chance at becoming a SS with their actions.”

    YES. And to me that cuts the deepest. Because we’re not dealing with a machine without feelings, we’re dealing with someone who hung around and gave his all, but was used here, there, and everywhere. And when here, there, and everywhere didn’t work – as it usually doesn’t – they cut bait.

    Those things continue to bother me on a human level is all.

  86. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    don’t forget the other 4 errors he made at 2b and 3b
    or the other 166 E’s he made at ss in the minors.

    Yea he made a lot of errors in a few games at 2B and 3B, almost like he shouldn’t have been made a utility player… He had a great year in 2010 in the field and at the plate and the Yankees threw it away.

    Jeter made 29 errors at SS in 1995, BTW. 29,25,56,21. Tons of errors.

  87. Doreen April 1st, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    The Yankees obligation is to the team as a whole.

    I am getting pretty tired of the narrative that everything the Yankees do is wrong, as well as the corollary to that narrative which is that individual players have no control over or responsibility for their own circumstances.

    I

  88. mick April 1st, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Jeter made 29 errors at SS in 1995, BTW. 29,25,56,21. Tons of errors.
    =================
    But he showed improvement, maybe it was the lack of tweeting.

  89. SweetSpot April 1st, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Amen Doreen. Thank you.

  90. mick April 1st, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    I am getting pretty tired of the narrative that everything the Yankees do is wrong, as well as the corollary to that narrative which is that individual players have no control over or responsibility for their own circumstances.
    ===================
    It indeed is a loser’s lament, even if true, it is hard to prove.

  91. Jerkface April 1st, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    But he showed improvement, maybe it was the lack of tweeting.

    Nunez improved more from 2009 to 2010 than Jeter ever did. Jeter also never didn’t play full time at SS.

  92. mick April 1st, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Losing Jeter will make me cry.
    He’s akin to Mantle.

  93. SweetSpot April 1st, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    The reason Joba and Nunez aren’t here is they didn’t perform well enough. Period. They’re grown men and the responsibility is theirs.

  94. Gish April 1st, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Michelle B. – Not so. The Mariners wanted Nuñez instead of Adams, and after Adams pulled up lame, Cashman said no to that. All it would have taken was including Nuñez. I generally like Cashman, but that was a terrible mistake.

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