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Solarte: “I don’t want to wake up”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 18, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Three weeks ago, Yangervis Solarte still had no idea whether he’d done enough. He knew he’d put up numbers in spring training, but he also knew Eduardo Nunez was the known commodity. Solarte was the new guy, the unfamiliar face, the guy with good exhibition numbers and absolutely no big league time.

He’s since made his first Opening Day roster, become essentially an everyday player, hit his first big league home run, and started his first ever triple play.

“He’s done a lot in two weeks, hasn’t he?” Joe Girardi said. “I’m sure he’s probably hoping he doesn’t wake up, in a sense. The kid has been a big boost for us. Someone that found out he was making the team fairly late; not even early enough to take the plane to Houston. He has given us a big boost.”

After Solarte’s second hit last night, one of the other writers turned to me and asked, “How good is he going to be, really.” My short, simple and perfectly honest answer was this: I have no idea. Right now, a 26-year-old who never cracked the big leagues or put up particularly impressive numbers in the Pacific Coast League is hitting .373 with the most doubles on the Yankees roster.

Can he really be this good? Surely not. Can he be a legitimate big league player? You know, he just might.

“If you looked at him in spring training it’s not that surprising,” CC Sabathia said. “But for him to come up and still be swinging the bat the way it is is awesome, and filling in at third for us while Tex has been out, he’s been great for us.”

That much is undeniable. Solarte has been outstanding, and he just keeps doing it. Between spring training and the start of this season, the sample size is up to 93 at-bats, which is still far short of a half season — and those spring at-bats obviously count as something far less than regular-season at-bats — but it’s not a tiny amount of data. At some point, he surely has to regress, but it’s becoming harder and harder to completely dismiss him as a fluke of timing and good luck.

“I don’t think about it,” Solarte said. “All I do is work hard. Work hard, and everything is going to happen. I thank God for that. … This is incredible for me. I don’t want to wake up. I want to keep working hard and doing what I’m doing right now.”

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522 Responses to “Solarte: “I don’t want to wake up””

  1. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:05 am

    Re-post:

    Do you think Wade Boggs had the best hitting tools on the field? I don’t think so. But he was almost always the best hitter on the field. And that was due to his work ethic and his ability to concentrate.

    You look at Solarte now, and you can tell he has the tools to be a very good hitter. The bat speed. The hand-eye coordination that shows up in his contact skills. And the ability to control strike zone. Will he become a good hitter? That depends. Is the work ethic there? Is the concentration there? Is the mental toughness there? Will he spend his evenings studying videos of pitchers like Tony Gwynn did? Or will he be out partying with Melky and Cano?

    Almost every player who’s played the game will tell you the difference between average, good and great isn’t talent. It’s what’s between the ears. And in the chest. So now we’ll see with Solarte. He’s got a great opportunity. He has the tools. But does he have the rest?

  2. Benny Blanco April 18th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Yar Solo

  3. blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    we don’t want you to wake up

  4. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Bedard? Should be interesting.
    ___

    With Ichiro hitting lefties, it’s a good day to rest Beltran.

  5. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    If you haven’t heard it yet – go find John Sterling’s home run call – it’s epic.

    None of us know how long this will last with Solarte, maybe just until video gets around and people adjust, maybe he’s a late bloomer and takes hold of the opportunity and never looks back – like I said, we don’t know.

    The question for Girardi becomes what does he do with the kid now?

    Tex is coming back on Sunday, Roberts is healthy so do you bench Kelly Johnson and leave Solarte at 3b?

  6. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:09 am
    we don’t want you to wake up

    ——————

    Is this one of those Inception things…? Can we keep Solarte in limbo forever?!

  7. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Solo Han one, Chip?

  8. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    The question for Girardi becomes what does he do with the kid now?

    —————–

    You keep playing him. The good part about having sub-par options all over the INF is even if they add player there’s still room for the best among them.

  9. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Tex is coming back on Sunday, Roberts is healthy so do you bench Kelly Johnson and leave Solarte at 3b?
    ___

    My guess is Roberts is the one who loses playing time. Girardi finds ways to make sure everyone plays, but no way you move Solarte to the bench until he stops hitting.

  10. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Solo Han one, Chip?
    —————————–

    “Never Nervous Yangervis” then he breaks into the chorus of “volare” with Solarte instead.

  11. blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    even mentioning Solarte with Boggs and Gwynn before he even makes it around the league once is a bit premature. Most all players that make it to the majors have talent…..what separates the good ones from the rest is the ability to make adjustments once the pitchers figure out how to pitch you…….Solarate hasn’t been around long enough yet for that to happen. So I agree with most of what you’re saying……

    If Solarte just becomes a decent regular for the Yankees at the league minimum then that really helps them……lets says he stays pretty productive all season and can be their starting 2B next year……well that’s a big help right there because that’s one less thing Cashman has to look for next winter. Long way to go before we are there……but hey…..we shall see.

  12. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    This year, more than any other, sees the shift in the Yankees strategy.
    He will find ways to play the hot hand.
    Hence, Ichiro’s playing time.

  13. blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Does anybody feel good about Tex coming back?

  14. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Will someone be sent down, or is Ryan on the 60 day DL?

  15. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Tex is coming back on Sunday, Roberts is healthy so do you bench Kelly Johnson and leave Solarte at 3b?
    ___

    My guess is Roberts is the one who loses playing time. Girardi finds ways to make sure everyone plays, but no way you move Solarte to the bench until he stops hitting.
    ——————-

    So essentially you suggest sort of a Roberts/Johnson platoon with Solarte playing 2b or 3b depending on which guy is in the lineup? That’s reasonable.

  16. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Does anybody feel good about Tex coming back?
    ———————

    I do.

  17. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Sizemore opt out a given?

  18. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Does anybody feel good about Tex coming back?
    __

    Actually I do.
    If Girardi is smart and hits him down the lineup.
    He is still a major threat in the lineup.

  19. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Will someone be sent down, or is Ryan on the 60 day DL?
    —————–

    Someone has to be sent down regardless – the question is whether it’s Anna or Sizemore.

  20. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    So essentially you suggest sort of a Roberts/Johnson platoon with Solarte playing 2b or 3b depending on which guy is in the lineup? That’s reasonable.
    __

    Exactly.

    At least until Solarte stops hitting.

  21. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    I could understand if the Yankees signed Hanrahan, but if they did I’d hope it would be to force Phelps back to the rotation. Phelps is clearly the worst right handed reliever in the pen right now. He walks almost as many guys as Betances while giving up more hits and HRs.

    But even if they do that I would still be worried that Betances will get even less work than he does now. He is already pitching intermittently in an injury dinged bullpen. He has been lucky to get 2 extended outings that have kept his IP close to the big 3 (phelps, warren, kelley), but his usage is much worse than those 3. He sits too long between outings. With Robertson in the pen it pushes him even further down the totem pole. I think the next guy to suffer there would be Phelps, he would move into the role that Betances currently has which is that of emergency close game guy (who only pitches if the other guys are unavailable) whose main duty is mop up.

    And if they got Hanrahan how would the bullpen work then? There is really only room for a few primary guys in the pen. The rest get irregular work, or don’t pitch in high leverage. Betances stuff is undeniable, and he should be one of the regular guys.

  22. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Does anybody feel good about Tex coming back?
    ——-
    I am ambivalent.

  23. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Sizemore opt out a given?
    ———————

    Probably.

    All the injuries in the league someone will have a spot on the 25 for a utility infielder.

  24. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Someone has to be sent down regardless – the question is whether it’s Anna or Sizemore.
    __

    Sizemore is probably better, but Anna is the only one who actually plays SS.

  25. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    I think it’s pretty much unanimous that Solarte gets to stay on this roster in a utility role until he really begins to stink it up, which may not even happen. I am hoping he learns how to recognize/adapt to the breaking balls that are surely coming, as word gets around the league that he can hit the fastball and the changeup pretty well.

    Similarly, I am hoping that Sizemore can win a permanent role on this club as the 2nd utility guy and back up Teixeira at first. I’ve been rooting for Scott since March and I believe he is more talented than we know, at this point – he’s just been terribly unlucky regarding the knee injuries.

    Great game last night – so much to be optimistic about. I feel taking 3 out of 4 is very possible, and a sweep this weekend would surely make a statement. Baby steps are being taken! :-)

  26. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am
    This year, more than any other, sees the shift in the Yankees strategy.
    ————–

    I’ll say! Sorry ac1, I’m taking your post out of context.

    The Shift. The Yankees hired two statistical assistants and finally joined the ranks of the Shifters, and the two teams that are in their division who have used it successfully against them, the Rays and O’s, two teams who are 1,2 in their shiftiness among MLB teams! :)

  27. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Sizemore opt out a given?

    Don’t think he can opt out anymore, even if he gets optioned to the minors. I said this yesterday but while his original minor league contract had an opt out based on being put on the 25 man, once that happened he is given a new major league contract and now is under team control.

    I don’t think a minor league deal is going to override the team control that a team gets once a guy comes up to the active roster and is optioned down. The opt out was really there to stop Sizemore from being kept safely in the minors without taking up a roster spot, and now that he is on the 40 man it kind of served its purpose.

    Don’t think Solarte or Sizemore can opt out anymore even if they go down to AAA.

  28. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    “even mentioning Solarte with Boggs and Gwynn before he even makes it around the league once is a bit premature.”

    —-

    It’s called analogy and emphasis. They are teaching tools.

  29. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    thank you Jerk, good stuff.

  30. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    Jerkface –

    I agree with you on Betances. Girardi has been misusing both him and Phelps based on David’s track record the last couple of years rather than on their actual performance this season.

    My expectation is that when Robertson comes back they’ll send Cabral or Nuno to AAA. My hope would be that they send Phelps instead; not solely based on the results, but also because I think that ultimately it provides the best use of assets. Betances has to work more than he does, Phelps is better as a starter than a reliever. I know they want to have “the 12 best arms up” but the current arrangement is very similar to last year’s catching problem where Girardi tried to force a back-up player into an everyday role and force an everyday player into spot duty and the result was that neither guy was productive.

  31. ac1 April 18th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    There is something different about the Yankees this year.

  32. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:24 am

    Tex has been pretty brittle of late. Yanks ought to be keep a reasonable option in AAA, Sizemore is one.

  33. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    jerkface —

    If Phelps is “forced” into the rotation, it’ll be Scranton’s rotation.

    Betances’ light workload is among the reasons I don’t like 12-man pitching staffs. The 12th man just rots and the 11th man doesn’t work much either.

    If your starting pitching is good, there’s no reason to carry 12 pitchers…. especially when you have a lot of age among your position players.

  34. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:26 am

    Sizemore is probably better, but Anna is the only one who actually plays SS.

    ————–

    Roberts can play SS.

  35. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Solarte needs to get some playing time at SS so Joe can evaluate whether he’s good enough to back up Jeter instead of Anna. What happens when Ryan is ready is anyone’s guess at this point.

    Good problems to have.

    Does anyone know how Hanrahan’s throwing session went yesterday? I hope the Yanks target him and sign him – an experienced closer behind Robertson may be another missing piece of the puzzle that gets solved.

  36. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    It’s called analogy and emphasis. They are teaching tools.

    —————

    Meh, it’s just misleading. Sorta like citing circumstantial evidence when all you’re doing is taking guesses.

  37. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Does anyone know how Hanrahan’s throwing session went yesterday?
    ——–
    read somewhere he topped 93, I think he dealt in the high 90s prior to his injury. If I remember correctly, his calling card is high gas with reasonable command.

  38. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    If Phelps is “forced” into the rotation, it’ll be Scranton’s rotation.

    Exactly, I didn’t mean our major league rotation, but he should start. Pretty much any starter that can be a little below average or better in the majors can relieve. I don’t think its any kind of virtue to stick them all in the pen. At some point we need to be getting value from these guys who don’t fit in the rotation by trading them.

    I like Phelps as the 6th starter or trade bait. Don’t really like him in the pen because his stuff isn’t overpowering.

  39. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Robers started 50 games at SS in 2001, 2 in 2003 and none since. No, he’s not a SS option.

    Sizemore played 60 games at SS in the minors in 2006, so I don’t want to see him there either.

  40. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Dean Anna was supposed to be the feel good story of the bench/utility role but now he is kind of superfluous and I feel bad that he is probably the least useful guy right now on the team. He is hitting .158 .190 .368 .559 and the only thing keeping him around is he can back up SS.

  41. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    I like Phelps as the 6th starter or trade bait. Don’t really like him in the pen because his stuff isn’t overpowering.
    ——–
    I am thinking of Ms or AZ… I don’t really want to part with him mainly cuz I think Pineda might get hurt sooner than later. But they do have options in Nuno and Warren and possibly Manbam later on. though I think Warren stuff probably plays up better in BP than in rotation.

  42. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Whatever the Yanks do with the bullpen, it would be advisable to stock it with relief pitchers as opposed to starters. I suspect the Yanks will eventually get there as the season progresses. Cannibalizing their starting depth to fill the bullpen has already cost them in selecting the right pitcher for Sunday. This will keep happening until the roles are filled appropriately. I think the Yanks will sign Hanrahan if they like him. There’s money in reserve for this type of signing.

  43. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    CC had a quote saying the tem chemistry is good, especially compared to the last two years. I wonder what that tells us.

  44. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Solarte played 20 games at SS in AAA last year, committing just two errors in 87 chances. He’s the best option IF Anna goes down and Ryan remains hurt.

  45. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 9:32 am
    Robers started 50 games at SS in 2001, 2 in 2003 and none since. No, he’s not a SS option.

    ————–

    Sizemore started 0 games at 1B but we used him there.. we also used Cervelli in our INF. I think at this point it’s kinda should be a ‘see who won’t be a nightmare at X position’ attitude.

  46. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    If anybody has seen Angelini in Scranton, I’d love a report. He much closer to playing in the Bronx than anybody could have possibly imagined when the season began. He’s probably as close as either Jeter or Anna hitting the DL.

    The curse of Nunie?

  47. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Whoa crazy avalanche…

    When I was little my grandma would always make me watch that movie Alive. I dunno why. I’ve had a fear of avalanches (and planes too I guess.. and cannibals) ever since.

  48. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    The YAnkees have too many 2b/3b guys right now. They need 1 guy who can cover the entire left side. It would be great if Solarte could do it.

  49. Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    ‘see who won’t be a nightmare at X position’
    ====
    somewhere Prime Time vows vengeance against the NYY. I also recommend Nunez face Hughes in live BP to boost his confidence.

  50. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    CC had a quote saying the tem chemistry is good, especially compared to the last two years. I wonder what that tells us.
    ———————-

    That Robinson Cano was a bad dude :-)

  51. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Cashmoney April 18th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    I like Phelps as the 6th starter or trade bait. Don’t really like him in the pen because his stuff isn’t overpowering.
    ——–
    I am thinking of Ms or AZ… I don’t really want to part with him mainly cuz I think Pineda might get hurt sooner than later. But they do have options in Nuno and Warren and possibly Manbam later on. though I think Warren stuff probably plays up better in BP than in rotation.
    —————

    I would add Atlanta to that list – they’re pitching well now, but they’ve lost a lot of starters.

  52. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:42 am

    austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am
    CC had a quote saying the tem chemistry is good, especially compared to the last two years. I wonder what that tells us.

    ——-

    Wow. I actually heard that while I was having a drink and just stopped. I was going to play it back but I got distracted. Was it a throw away line? It’s not like CC to make gratuitous comments like that. I have no idea what he meant by that. Was he referring to Arod in some way?

  53. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:38 am
    The YAnkees have too many 2b/3b guys right now. They need 1 guy who can cover the entire left side. It would be great if Solarte could do it.
    —————-

    Pick from this list of shortstops and make a trade.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/position/ss

  54. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    I think the Yanks will sign Hanrahan if they like him. There’s money in reserve for this type of signing.

    ***********************************************************************

    Obviously you haven’t been paying attention. Cheapskate Hal never spends money on anything except maybe new shampoo for his hotel guests.

    Who is the “right pitcher” for Sunday bigdan22? Looks to me like Nuno will get the start and that makes the most sense to me. Both Phelps and Warren could be available for 2-4 innings.

  55. blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    If they could get an infielder for him they should trade Phelps

  56. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 9:48 am

    austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am
    CC had a quote saying the team chemistry is good, especially compared to the last two years. I wonder what that tells us.
    ********************************
    In addition to winning, I think that when teammates achieve different levels of success, there’s a very positive outlook in the clubhouse – lots of kidding around, optimism, and confidence. Ellsbury’s hot start, contributions by Beltran and McCann along with their natural leadership skills, Jeter’s comeback and farewell tour, Pineda’s health and early success, Tanaka’s ceiling as a staff ace, Kiroda showing he’s still got it, CC’s transformation, Betances throwing heat and great breaking balls, Warren and Kelly in the bullpen, Solarte’s Cinderella story – these are all contributing to the “team chemistry”. Lots of feel-good stories in the works.

  57. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 18th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    About Betances. He will definitely get his playing time, especially when DRob comes back. He’s been too good not to. But right now Joe is going for sure wins and doing it with the guys he knows best. It’s temporary so there’s no need to get in a twist about it.

    I too have been unhappy when certain pitchers don’t get enough time in, and that happened with Adam Warren last year. And I agree about the glut of starters in the pen. I don’t see it as fair to them, frankly. Not sure what’s going to happen with that either. I won’t be surprised if you eventually see Betances as the 8th inning guy. But you have to give it time to shake out. Again, his stuff is too good for it not to. What that does with Nuno, Warren, and Phelps, who knows. I too wish one of them would get sent down to be able to start in AAA. You don’t need 3 starters in your pen.

    ***********

    “Everybody and I mean everybody said the Yankee infield would be a disaster this year. ”

    “It’s 15 games Dan…..remember when Vernon Wells looked awesome in April last year. It’s way too early to make any declarative statements……the infield is probAbaly still gonna be a problem ….and is still one they should address”

    Okay, blake, I will be happy to call you out on this. I say the infield will be fine as presently constituted – meaning with the guys they already have. One of us will have hit it right, and one wrong.

    The only reason I’m calling you out is that from the get go you’ve said it would be a problem and from the get go, I disagreed. So we’ll see what shakes out in time.

    ***********

    About Tex – I too have ambivalence. It’s under the “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it” theory, but I also know Tex owns the position. So que sera, sera.

    ************

    Have a great day y’all.

    Hasta la vista.

    :)

  58. DONNYBROOK April 18th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    - FRIDAY MORNING MUSINGS -

    (1) CC was extremely lucky. He was getting smoked until the game was in hand.

    (2) Maddon has to be concerned about Price. Mainly, Price’s inability to neuter McCann.

    (3) I expect Beltran to sit tonight out.

    (4) TEX’s return Sun will immediately reset the infield. His offensive impact Pending.

    (5) Offensively, Jeet looking more and more like 2 yrs ago. Defensively, his “jump throw” looks to have been 86′d.

    (6) I expect Cashman to come to some kind of “under the table” agreement with Sizemore

    (7) Solarte may be playing his way onto another team. Maybe the one with Owings on it.

  59. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    (6) I expect Cashman to come to some kind of “under the table” agreement with Sizemore

    Don’t think this is necessary for the reasons I listed. The original minor league contract Sizemore signed no longer exists.

  60. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    If they could get an infielder for him they should trade Phelps
    —————–

    Agreed.

    Just not Ian Desmond…yikes he’s making Nunie look like a gold glover :-)

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 18th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    “(7) Solarte may be playing his way onto another team. Maybe the one with Owings on it.”

    I don’t think that the Yanks are going to let go of Solarte if he keeps living up to his promise. Why would they? They’re going to need a 3B at some point. No need to reinvent the wheel.

  62. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    (7) Solarte may be playing his way onto another team. Maybe the one with Owings on it.
    ———————-

    Not much of what you say makes sense – but this one’s a real head-scratcher.

    Do you honestly believe that Kevin Towers would trade a player who is 4 years younger with a better pedigree to the Yankees for Solarte just because Yangervis is off to a strong start?

  63. blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    I know it’s early but Ellsbury really does seem like one of these Jeter like players that you have to see play every day to appreciate……I’m not sure the numbers do him justice. When he’s healthy he’s one of the best players in the league…….he’s not Mike Trout obviously but in a Mike Trout type way he just has his finger prints all over a baseball game……hitting, stealing….making holes for other people to hit the ball into to by bothering pitchers…..playing defense etc.

    I really hope he can stay healthy for most of this deal…..he’s a lot of fun to watch every day and I just love his swing……it’s one of the more functional left handed swings in baseball.

  64. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Donnybrook —-

    I saw every pitch. CC was NOT getting “smoked”. A few balls were hit hard, but not many. Perhaps you were listening to the Rays’ telecast where every ball of the bat of a Rays’ hitter is a rocket.

    No one knows what’s in the Sizemore contract. He may have a stipulation that he can opt-out if he gets sent down…. I’d certainly have asked for that if I was his agent.

  65. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Trader –

    I think the problem with the list you posted is that those are guys who would have to come in and play SS this year – except maybe a guy like Tejada who you could stick on the pine. What you want are the Nick Franklin, Didi Gregorious type guys – players who are ML ready but you can stash in AAA for this year and who can come up and play if Jeter gets hurt or be in place to carry the torch next year.

    By himself Phelps isn’t enough to get you that kind of guy unless the other GM is drunk. If you offered Towers Phelps and Murphy – that could probably get you Gregorious though.

  66. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    No one knows what’s in the Sizemore contract. He may have a stipulation that he can opt-out if he gets sent down…. I’d certainly have asked for that if I was his agent.

    He signed a minor league deal. Which means he isn’t on any roster and the only thing keeping him in the Yankees system is that deal. Which is why he had an opt out clause, because he wasn’t under any kind of team control and didn’t want the Yankees unfairly keeping him in the minors if he was actually ready. Now that the yankees have selected him to the 40 man and activated him, he has a major league deal. Which means he is under control of the Yankees through the service time rules of baseball. That includes being able to get optioned to the minors.

    The difference being that if he is on the 40 man he gets lots of benefits, rather than just the stipulations of any minor league deal he signed. I don’t think his new freshly minted major league contract has an opt out clause, why would he get one?

  67. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 18th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    blake, I think the reason I was so psyched about getting Ellsbury is because I did get to watch him a lot – from watching Sux games trying to send bad vibes so they’d lose, ha ha. But that’s the truth. And I agree that getting to watch him every day you just have to love what he brings to the table.

  68. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Chip

    Anything the A’s could use for SS Jed Lowrie, switch hitter good splits.

    All current shortstop stats:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/position/ss

  69. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    The hyperbole on ellsbury is a bit much.

  70. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    I really hope he can stay healthy for most of this deal…..he’s a lot of fun to watch every day and I just love his swing……it’s one of the more functional left handed swings in baseball.

    —————-

    That’s always been the main issue and it’s gonna be something we can’t evaluate until we’re at minimum 5 years in. His skill set has always been awesome. He was one of those guys on the Sox that you absolutely hated to play – and usually those are the guys that are just really, really good. Dude stole home on us and I wanted to throw my tv out of a window…..

  71. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Chip

    I see where you already answered. From that list next years SS would have to play third mostly.

  72. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    C’Mon Guys —

    The Yanks don’t need to trade for a SS right now. They are not addressing 2015 concerns during the 2014 season.

  73. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    ?@whufc_official STATEMENT: West Ham United announce the sad news that Dylan Tombides has passed away at the age of 20.

    Real sad. :(

  74. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    @NYDNSports Bob Raissman: For MLB instant replay, the tape doesn’t lie … but what happens when it disappears? http://nydn.us/1jcVm8h

  75. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    86

    No, I agree, they don’t need to trade for a SS now. Maybe by July, depending how they are doing in their division, and if Tex, Roberts, Sizemore, are having trouble staying healthy, and “Real Deal” Solarte is not Evander, then they would or should consider making a trade.

    Just offering up candidates based on someone asking a question.

  76. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    The Yanks don’t need to trade for a SS right now. They are not addressing 2015 concerns during the 2014 season.

    What if the only way to get a good option for 2015 is to get one now?

  77. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    “blake April 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am
    Does anybody feel good about Tex coming back?”

    At least he is coming back vs. a LHP… Be grateful for small favors. ;)
    ________
    bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 9:42 am

    …It’s not like CC to make gratuitous comments like that. I have no idea what he meant by that. Was he referring to Arod in some way?
    ____
    Doubt it. CC is very good friends with Alex.

  78. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Guys I found a Total Eclipse of the Heart flowchart and I dunno that I’ll do work today.

  79. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    I wish I wrote for the Post because I’d love to spin that CC chemistry quote to mean CC hated Mo and Pettitte lol.

  80. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    @KenDavidoff We’re in the bottom of the first. Here comes Teixeira, batting third, against Jose Ramirez.

    Tex in an extended ST game in Tampa… was actually excited to hear about Ramirez throwing.

  81. Hankflorida April 18th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    It is hard to believe that an .280 BA in the minors
    can even reach that level in the majors, but if
    Solarte does reach that number, then Cashman has found a diamond in the rough, and let us not forget the cap.

  82. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Ramirez just struck him out lmao!!!!

  83. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Chip

    I see where you already answered. From that list next years SS would have to play third mostly.
    ——————

    Hard to do that during the season though – Let’s say you swing a deal for Asdrubal Cabrera (just to throw out a name) you would be asking a guy who has been a SS his entire career to come in and play 3b at the ML level without the benefit of even working out there during spring training.

    Remember, when guys like Alex and Ripken made the move, the transition started over the winter so they had time to adjust to the new position. It’s not an easy thing to do.

    If the Yankees want to trade for a 3b they should trade for a 3b, not a SS with an eye on him replacing Jeter next year. Now, if they can do a deal where they accomplish both things, such as a trade with the Indians for Lonnie Chisenhall and Francisco Lindor (not bloody likely) that would be delightful.

  84. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Great day to do nothing. yf, do you know Derek Jeter Sanderson said Rod Gilbert had the best hair going ?

  85. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    I said well before the season started that this team will go as far as it’s starting pitching will take them and the starting pitching has a chance to be elite. Top 3.

    I still believe that. As far as offense goes, I felt before the season started the performance would be inconsistent but still significantly better than last year. So far this season two elements have presented themselves: run production has been low but batting average and OBP have been surprisingly high. That odd juxtaposition is result of low slugging for the first week or so and poor hitting with RISP. The first part turned itself around about a week ago. I predicted hitting with RISP would normalized and it may have started to do that last night.

    The more interesting question is is the current Yankee hitting for real? I mean their high average and OBP. Because if it is, that would greatly surprise me. I didn’t expect this to be a high average team coming into the season. Now some of this has to do with poor hitting throughout the game, but the Yanks are hitting .280 as a team now and that’s pretty crazy.

    Obviously Solarte, Ichiro and probably Ellsbury will fall back some, but I think most of the team is pretty close to where they should be. Does this make this say a .272 average team? That would be pretty damn good.

    I remain worried about adding Tex to the mix. I’ve pointed this out before. Putting Tex, Soriano and McCann together in the order is a OBP nightmare.

  86. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    “Tex in an extended ST game in Tampa… was actually excited to hear about Ramirez throwing.”

    He already had an EST appearance, pitching 1 inning on 4/15.

  87. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    “Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:21 am
    Ramirez just struck him out lmao!!!!”

    On no doubt his plus plus CU. ;)

  88. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    If the Yankees want to trade for a 3b they should trade for a 3b, not a SS with an eye on him replacing Jeter next year. Now, if they can do a deal where they accomplish both things, such as a trade with the Indians for Lonnie Chisenhall and Francisco Lindor (not bloody likely) that would be delightful.

    —————–

    The only good thing about so much uncertainty is they could/should try to just get the best INF talent at whatever position they can.

  89. Yankee Trader April 18th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    From this mornings RAB’s

    Aaron asks: If the D’Backs continue to struggle would the Yankees be more interested in Aaron Hill or Martin Prado?

    Man, the Diamondbacks are just awful this year. The rotation especially. It could be historically bad. Both Hill and Prado would fit the Yankees’ need at second base, though they are different players who wind up providing similar value. Hill (7.3 fWAR from 2012-14) is more of a power hitter and average defender while Prado (7.8 fWAR from 2012-14) is a contact hitter and above-average defender. They are both owed similar money t00, $33M-35M through 2016. Prado can play third and left field, so he has that going for him. Either guy would work for the Yankees, but if I have to pick one, I’ll go with Prado because he does more things well and is two years younger. If either hits the trade market, the Yankees should be interested.

    Have to go.

    Enjoyed the morning give and take.

    Have a great day.

    Until later.

  90. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    hankflorida —-

    Robinson Cano hit .278 with a .756 OPS in about 500 minor league games. Guys do get better through experience, hard work, etc

  91. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    …and I see it was a called strike 3.

  92. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    What if the only way to get a good option for 2015 is to get one now?

    ************************************************************************

    I don’t buy that. There will always be options… expensive, perhaps, but options.

    Once the season starts all I want the front office to do is make THIS team better. That’s why I was adamantly opposed to selling off players last summer when the Yanks were within three games of post-season play.

    That changes if they ever go into total re-build mode, but I don’t think that will ever happen.

  93. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Aaron Hill is my boy, you can’t have him!

  94. blake April 18th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    “The hyperbole on ellsbury is a bit much.”

    eh I don’t think it’s hyperbole if he can not get hurt…..he’s really good and impacts the game in a lot of ways when he’s right. The problem is that he hasn’t been right all the time in his career……I mean he was almost a 6 WAR player last year and he missed almost 30 games…..

  95. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Bye, YT, I really pooped out on your trivia question.

  96. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    I don’t buy that. There will always be options… expensive, perhaps, but options.

    So you’re unwilling to get a good deal now because there might be more expensive, possibly worse, options in the future?

    I’m not saying the Yankees have to go out and make a move, but if one presents itself they’d be stupid not to take it.

  97. blake April 18th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Prado please.

  98. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Dante Bichette played 3b yesterday and went 3 for 4. Jagielo played DH and went 0 for 4. Bichette’s OBP is over .500 now. Jagielo is .302. Both are the same age.

    I love competition!

  99. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    I know the season isn’t over. I took a gravol sub lingually last night. Always knocks me out nicely.

  100. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Charleston RiverDogs ?@ChasRiverDogs 7m
    ICYMI: Here’s Aaron Judge’s gigantic solo homer last night, his 1st career professional HR! http://atmilb.com/1r4LwcL #RiverDogs #Yankees #chs

  101. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    I don’t buy that. There will always be options… expensive, perhaps, but options.

    So you’re unwilling to get a good deal now because there might be more expensive, possibly worse, options in the future?

    I’m not saying the Yankees have to go out and make a move, but if one presents itself they’d be stupid not to take it.
    ——————

    I don’t mind them looking towards 2015 and getting a SS in a trade, but they shouldn’t get that guy with an eye towards him being a filler at another position this season.

    For example, if the Yankees were to work out a deal for Gregorious, that’s fine, but don’t go trading for him with an eye towards him being the 2b for the rest of this year. If you want a 2b, trade for Aaron Hill and if you want to get Gregorious too – try to work out that deal.

  102. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Ellsbury is Jeter-like??? Not really seeing that.

  103. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Bichette has finally committed to his new stance/mechanics, less movement, quieter feet, no more big step. Think he did the same at one point last year, but than insisted he go back to the old mechanics. Good to see he’s buying into the change this time around.

  104. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Dante Bichette played 3b yesterday and went 3 for 4. Jagielo played DH and went 0 for 4. Bichette’s OBP is over .500 now. Jagielo is .302. Both are the same age.

    I love competition!
    ——————-

    When he was drafted Jagielo said he was excited because he knew there wasn’t that much talent at 3b in the Yankee system…one would think Bichette didn’t take too kindly to that.

  105. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Blake –

    You’re right on Ellsbury in that you gain a different appreciation for him seeing him everyday. Same thing goes for Beltran I think.

  106. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    The D’backs were set up to be a really good young team going forward.. I thought their owner was the reason Towers was doing crazy things but now I’m a lot less sure.

  107. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    There are 3 ways the Yankees could acquire a SS for 2015 this year:

    1. They acquire a prospect who will go to AAA and play SS there
    2. They acquire a prospect that will be a bench player in the majors this year
    3. They acquire a SS who will be a 3B/SS/2B in the majors this year

    All 3 should be options for this team. Moving from SS to 3B isn’t that hard and anyone we want as a starting SS for the Yankees in 2015 should be able to handle it. If we are fine moving guys like Solarte and Kelly Johnson all over the infield, we should be fine with letting a major league caliber SS do it.

  108. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    “Dante Bichette played 3b yesterday and went 3 for 4. Jagielo played DH and went 0 for 4. Bichette’s OBP is over .500 now. Jagielo is .302. Both are the same age.

    I love competition!”

    Spell competition this way: An-du-jar!

  109. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Why wouldn’t the team chemistry be better this year, especially given the absence of the arod circus.

  110. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    My home runs were of the speedy inside variety. I went a whole season without striking out. Every time I was down to one strike, I’d check swing a bunt towards third and beat it out. At the end of the season my coach phoned me up to attend the all star game. When I got there, a couple of my ” teammates ” told me I wasn’t going to play as I was a backup. I informed my family who then confronted my coach. The idiot said, ” that’s right, he’ll only play if someone doesn’t show up “. We left, I was decimated on the way home in the backseat.

  111. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    I think we knew how good Ells and Beltran were before they arrived. Question with Ells has always been health and length of contract and the 3rd year with Beltran (and why the heck didn’t we get him in his prime? So easy to have gotten that done.) Hopefully, both Ells and Beltran stay healthy.

  112. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    “Spell competition this way: An-du-jar!”

    —–

    Like everyone else in the world, ya gotta put up numbers. Somebody needs to tell Mason Williams that.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Andujar also looks like a player and although I’ve yet to see him
    Get a hit the swing and bat speed are there.
    He’s also an athlete
    At 3b
    Can’t wait to see him and AA live. Wade also looked rangy at SS. He and AA seem to be alternating games there.

    Anderson Feliz – he of
    The special bat – has
    Been moved to OF but has resumed hitting – that’s very good news. Guy is the most toolsy player I’ve seen in our system – please stay healthy.

  114. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Joel Sherman had an interesting article a couple of days ago pointing out that while Tex’s OPS has tumbled since 2008 the production of 1b in general has followed suit.

    Here are Tex’s numbers 2009 – last year:
    .948, .846, .835, .807, .609,

    Here’s 1b in general from 2009 – last year:
    846, .802, .797, .778, .773

    So with the exception of last year which was a washout due to injury – even in decline Tex has still been an above average performer at 1b as compared to the rest of the league.

  115. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    As I said a few days ago, the Yankees don’t like to think too far ahead. They don’t even know who’s starting for them Sunday and you expect to know who will play SS for them next year?

  116. sar515 April 18th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    When Brendan Ryan returns…who goes??

    (Assuming Anna goes when Tex returns)

  117. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 10:47 am

    So far Teixiera the last two days he has two walks and two strike outs. Yep, he’s ready as ever.

  118. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    Jerkface:

    Wow wouldn’t it be awesome if Solarte could adequately back up Jeter @ SS this season, provide league average defense there, and hit well enough for the Yanks to plan on him being the starting SS in 2015?

    That saves them about $11M (the difference between Jeter’s salary and Solarte’s) and the need to make an acquisition.

  119. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    Alfred, I’m going to have a fun time telling my Quebec Habs friend I’m cheering for Pierre LaRouche and those ‘guins. :D

  120. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    I just don’t see anyone out there who can be the SS of 2015 AND be a major upgrade on the current roster AND help this team.

  121. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Some players are coach killers. I fear Tex is a team killer.

  122. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Chip,

    We would all, I believe, be happy with Teixiera’s 2012 production. The reality is we don’t know if his wrist and maybe other bodyparts allow that player anymore. We will soon find out.

  123. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Adding Tex to the team now is like taking out your point guard after your team went on a 16-2 run.

  124. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    I just don’t see anyone out there who can be the SS of 2015 AND be a major upgrade on the current roster AND help this team.

    I don’t think one needs to meet all those criteria to warrant a trade. Its stupid if you limit yourself like that. As long as you’re not severely impacting the major league team with a trade you don’t need to get back someone guaranteed to help this year.

    And considering Dean Anna’s production and Brendan Ryan’s given production, pretty much anyone they trade for that can play SS would be an upgrade.

  125. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    gotta run sports…. later!

  126. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    There are 3 ways the Yankees could acquire a SS for 2015 this year:

    1. They acquire a prospect who will go to AAA and play SS there
    2. They acquire a prospect that will be a bench player in the majors this year
    3. They acquire a SS who will be a 3B/SS/2B in the majors this year

    All 3 should be options for this team. Moving from SS to 3B isn’t that hard and anyone we want as a starting SS for the Yankees in 2015 should be able to handle it. If we are fine moving guys like Solarte and Kelly Johnson all over the infield, we should be fine with letting a major league caliber SS do it.
    ————-

    The difference is that Kelly Johnson and Solarte had all spring training to work out at different positions. If Cashman goes out tomorrow and trades for an established short stop like Alexei Ramirez or Asdrubal Cabrera you’re asking that guy to come in cold and play 3b immediately. That’s a fairly tall order.

    Someone younger like a Gregorious or Owings or Franklin may be able to handle it because he’s probably taken reps there in spring training and the minors.

    The fact is that the Yankees need a SS, 2b and 3b in 2015.

  127. blake April 18th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    “Ellsbury is Jeter-like??? Not really seeing that.”

    meaning in the way that you gain appreciation for their game by watching them every day…..

  128. Chambliss April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    The Yankees have a very nice balance at the moment. They have the high priced guys like Beltran, Ellsbury, Tanaka and McCann who are performing as hoped, and they have guys like Solarte, Roberts and Pineda who are exceeding expectations.

    I hope that Joe sits Ellsbury from time to time. he really needs to. Ellsbury has always displayed the talent that he is showing now. The issue is health. The guy plays hard and he gets banged up.

    I re-watched Beltran’s attempt to catch that fly last night and I still cannot understand how he had no idea that he was close to that short wall. I guess he just didn’t see it, but wow, he was going pretty much full speed when he hit it. I hope that he is OK.

  129. blake April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    So far Teixiera the last two days he has two walks and two strike outs. Yep, he’s ready as ever.”

    how many pop ups and ground balls into the shift?

  130. willwill April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Hanley?

  131. willwill April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Tex actually looked good before he got injured.

  132. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    CC said the chemistry was better than the last TWO years. Last year with the injuries and AROD I get.

  133. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    “Like everyone else in the world, ya gotta put up numbers. Somebody needs to tell Mason Williams that.”

    Well, if you want to quote SSS, he was 6/15 before he had to play in a doubleheader in Akron in freezing cold weather and then bus it to NJ that night for a game the next day. I look at quality ABs/making contact and Mason is right there. So, I expect he’ll hit and hit fine. In fact, I’d bet if I went and looked up his LD% and BABIP, they would both support what I have been seeing: solid ABs that will translate into very good numbers in a larger sample.

  134. blake April 18th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    of the 4 games Tex played he looked good in one of them and looked like the same ole Tex in the other 3

  135. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    86, Later!

    Alfred, I just can’t say, ” JAP “. I’m not Jewish, and they only can employ the term as needed in my world. I honestly thought it meant Japanese, it was my Jewish friends who told me about the reference.

  136. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    I don’t think Solarte has the ability to be a regular major league SS. There are few of those guys around. Be happy with him at multiple other positions. Evidently, Girardi agrees.

    Chip mentioned Aaron Hill for second. Not a bad thought if healthy. He might be costly enogh they would move him.

  137. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    I have only read a few comments, but I did see a continuation of the bash CC brigade; he was lucky, he was hit hard, etc. I am sure there were also references to the anemic Rays lineup, and he still gave up two runs, one earned. if there is one valid criticism, on the passed ball, he should have broke to home much quicker and he may have saved the unearned run; however McCann, if he dove towards the runner, may have also had a chance to make the play.
    As to CC, he is never going to throw in the mid to upper 90′s again, but if keeps going 7 and giving up 3 runs or less I will take that every day.
    Phelps is another player who seems to draw the ire of many posters here; I know he had one bad outing, maybe more I am not sure, but in his 3? appearances, although he made it interesting, he did not give up any runs(shades of DRob).

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Ellsbury is a good versatile player. Would have nevertheless passed and used that koneyntoresig. Cano and added Carlos
    And McCann.

  139. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 10:59 am

    sar515 April 18th, 2014 at 10:47 am
    When Brendan Ryan returns…who goes??
    (Assuming Anna goes when Tex returns)
    *****************************

    That might be the toughest decision Cashman/Girardi makes this spring.

    Between catchers on the 40-man roster, outfield prospects, Phelps/Warren/Nuno as a #5 starter for most teams, and some quality utility infielders whose values are on the rise, you’d think a package could be put together and exchanged for a quality backup 1st baseman, an area that really hasn’t been addressed.

  140. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Mills,

    I married a Jewish American Princess. She’s great, but I was disappointed marrying her didn’t make me a prince.

  141. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Come on, YF, admit it. You are really Mason’s mom right?

    Speaking of moms, Solarte in the post game was great. When they asked him what he was going to do with his home run ball he said he was giving it to his mom. She gets everything.

    That’s pretty awesome. It oughta be made into a commercial for the Super Bowl!

  142. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Bigdan, also Mason is hitting righties well and Trenton park factor is suppressing his home numbers.

    Pruf, good post. I have liked Avelino, Wade, and Andujar’s AB’s. Andujar is definitely our best defensive 3B of the Bichette, Jags group, and don’t underestimate that Andujar bat. And FTR, kid just turned 19 in March and is in Charleston. I can’t wait to see him live next week.

  143. mick April 18th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    I married a Jewish American Princess.
    ====================
    Did not know there were Jews in Texas.

  144. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    I was one of a few wasps in dental school, as most had apparently become quite lazy by that point :). Lionel McTague and me used to laugh about it.

  145. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:02 am

    JAP,

    Your typing is resembling mine.

    Where is Feliz playing?

  146. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Chambliss April 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am
    The Yankees have a very nice balance at the moment. They have the high priced guys like Beltran, Ellsbury, Tanaka and McCann who are performing as hoped, and they have guys like Solarte, Roberts and Pineda who are exceeding expectations.
    *********************************
    In a way, you’re kind of describing the 2013 Red Sox who wound up with a world championship – a sign of things to come?? :-)

  147. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:04 am

    bigdan, nope and I said the same thing about JR when he wasn’t hitting in Trenton and everyone was trashing him. Ditto, Ramirez and Betances. Stats without qualifiers, seeing the players are kind of useless, especially in a SSS and not taking into consideration, April cold, park factor, what players are working on, respectively, etc. That is why eye test is sometimes kind of relevant.

  148. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    DRUDGE REPORT ?@DRUDGE_REPORT 3m
    13 killed in Everest avalanche… http://drudge.tw/1f2Bbsx

    really sad….it’s a dangerous thing to do though

  149. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Mick,

    You could learn many things by venturing out. Galveston was a port through which many Jews emigrated.

  150. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Austinmac, Feliz is in EST, coming back from an elbow injury. Should be in EST games again soon. Fingers crossed. Then Tampa. Guy just needs to stay healthy.

    How are you enjoying MiLB-TV?

  151. mick April 18th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Never been to Texas Mac.

  152. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Arizona gets: Warren, Murphy and Ryfsnyder

    Yankees get: Hill and Gregorious

  153. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    austin, try marrying into the English. Nothing like being told you’re common wealth. I survived it, happily single again.

  154. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I hope Solarte is the real thing, but he did spend 6 years in the minors for a reason. With all of the scouting and continuous evaluations of all players in the minors and majors I find it hard to believe he “just went unnoticed.”

  155. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    YF,

    Although he didn’t have good numbers in the spring, I have said Mason looked good at the plate to me. He did not looked overmatched and had some very good swings.

  156. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    “did you know there were Jews in Texas”

    Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys.

  157. Mottsx April 18th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    C Peter O’Brien 1-4, double, RBI, BB, K, 3 passed balls – batting .340 this season

    Time to move him to AA and to first base.

    AA 1B is 26 year old Kyle Roller.. he can move up to AAA and rot there.

  158. exiledintampa April 18th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Going unnoticed and being blocked are two different things.

  159. Mike Ri April 18th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    I hope Solarte is the real thing, but he did spend 6 years in the minors for a reason. With all of the scouting and continuous evaluations of all players in the minors and majors I find it hard to believe he “just went unnoticed.”

    ———-
    Tom Brady — 6th round pick .. ( i know its football .. and not saying Solarte is “Tom Brady” in the making ) ,,,,,, BUT … sometimes players fall threw the cracks…….

  160. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    The difference is that Kelly Johnson and Solarte had all spring training to work out at different positions. If Cashman goes out tomorrow and trades for an established short stop like Alexei Ramirez or Asdrubal Cabrera you’re asking that guy to come in cold and play 3b immediately. That’s a fairly tall order.

    The height of the order depends on the player taking it. I agree for some players it would be tall order, but not for every player and maybe not even for most. Jed Lowrie hardly played 3B at all before getting 40+ games there in his first season with the Sox. He had less than 50 innings there in his career including spring training at that point.

    If the guy is a natural fielder at SS, 3B should be ok. Now if they end up trading for a Nunez type, then I agree you wouldn’t want him manning third out of nowhere.

  161. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Doesn’t change my point YF. At some point you have to put up numbers.

    Williams didn’t put up numbers last year in Tampa. He didn’t put up numbers last year in Trenton. He didn’t put up numbers last fall in the AFL. He didn’t put up numbers in ST. And he’s not putting up numbers now in Trenton. There’s a distinct pattern here. “Looking good” only takes you so far.

    On the other hand, Flores and Almonte are putting up numbers. That’s why they are ahead of Williams and that won’t change a bit until Williams starts putting up his own numbers.

  162. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    I should have gone to Oxford, or at least, Cambridge. Still the same, Trinity U of T wasn’t bad, and those private school kids were pretty good to me considering my Oshawa high school background.

  163. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    JAP,

    Thanks for the info. I have watched a lot of games. It isn’t easy watching the Yanks play, keeping one eye on Trenton and following the scores and stats of the other minor league teams. But, someone has to do it. :)

  164. bbb51 April 18th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    Solarte has played only 30 games at SS in the minors.

    Sizemore never in the majors, 66 games in the minors, and 63 of those were in 2006.

    Anna, 177 in the minors, he’s the only real SS. I suppose you could try Solarte there but it doesn’t sound like Girardi thinks he is more than an emergency SS.

  165. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Mick,

    Come on down. I’ll show you around Austin, the best spot in Texas without a doubt.

  166. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    And if they did trade for Asdrubal Cabrera he has experience at 2B and 3B so I would hope he could come in and be passable at those positions very fast.

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Bigdan – YF has seen enough of Williams to be high on him. Not getting the “mom” comment.

  168. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    austin, I’ll come down pending, Victoria Principle :D

  169. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    “And if they did trade for Asdrubal Cabrera he has experience at 2B and 3B so I would hope he could come in and be passable at those positions very fast.”

    I’d rather just sign Drew for money only

  170. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    ….then again, Bobby Orr was captain of his junior team in Oshawa, and the Rolling Stones played a benefit cocert for the blind in the Civic arena ’cause Keith had just got busted for heroin at the border ( they tried to call it ” trafficking ” but everyone knew it was just his weekend stash ).

  171. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    “Bigdan – YF has seen enough of Williams to be high on him. Not getting the “mom” comment.”

    —–

    Bill James once said over 30 years ago that there’s nothing you can learn about baseball by watching the game. Of course he was kidding, but you get his point right?

  172. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    * concert

  173. Mottsx April 18th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    More likely to play a game first?

    A) A Rod
    B) K- Morales
    C) Stephen Drew

    At this point, I’m going with A.

  174. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    AMAc – I know, it’s
    Tough keeping track of all the milb games and watch the Yanks at the same time. Feliz in EST, as per YF post. He really can’t lose any more
    Development time.
    ///

    Jmills – the ‘Guins started scary and then got serious just in time to realize they have no business losing to Columbus. Thanks for the support and by all means, you and Hank keep calling mE ALFRED :)

  175. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    exiledintampa April 18th, 2014 at 11:10 am
    Going unnoticed and being blocked are two different things.

    I did not realize MLB had a “Blacklist.”

  176. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    “And if they did trade for Asdrubal Cabrera he has experience at 2B and 3B so I would hope he could come in and be passable at those positions very fast.”

    I’d rather just sign Drew for money only
    ——————

    Really? You’ve been kind of tepid on signing Drew so this is news to me :)

  177. GregD April 18th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Ellsbury has been better than I thought he was and you really see a difference in the Red Sox lineup without him……

  178. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Bigdan, you are comparing Mason to COF’s; he is a CF. Secondly he did hit well in Tampa in 2013: Don’t forget he was coming back from an injury, and in the second half he batted over .300 and had a near 800 OPS (June, July), plenty good for a CF. That is why he forced his way up to Trenton. There he was overmatched in his brief stint, but has looked very good this season, and should thrive as long as he stays healthy. His AB’s are like night and day to end of last season in Trenton where he was overly aggressive, overmatched. As For this year’s stats to project, here you go; they back up the eye test: .260 BABIP 21.6% LD. Mason not only looks like he is making contact and having some bad luck, the stats say so as well. Also park factor, he’s hitting .276BA with .806 OPS on road, and only .214BA, .611 OPS at home. Trenton park is well known for suppressing numbers, and I believe was dead last in hits allowed last season. So, your numbers are pretty SSS and mine support what I am seeing.

    Austinmac, yep, agree.

  179. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Mills,

    Despite my long intimate relationship with Victoria, I better not invite her as my wife would be jealous.

    We can lie on the Internet, right?

  180. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Bill James once said over 30 years ago that there’s nothing you can learn about baseball by watching the game. Of course he was kidding, but you get his point right?
    ____
    Just saw this. Bill James would agree with my numbers as well. He would be all over that BABIP and LD%

  181. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    austin, yes, but I don’t have to :D I love Donna Mills!

  182. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 11:11 am

    The height of the order depends on the player taking it. I agree for some players it would be tall order, but not for every player and maybe not even for most. Jed Lowrie hardly played 3B at all before getting 40+ games there in his first season with the Sox. He had less than 50 innings there in his career including spring training at that point.

    If the guy is a natural fielder at SS, 3B should be ok. Now if they end up trading for a Nunez type, then I agree you wouldn’t want him manning third out of nowhere.
    ——————–

    Fair enough – I’m still in favor of a “yes/and” approach. You want to go get the SS for the future go get him, but if you also want to improve at 3b or 2b for this year then go get a 3b or 2b too.

    As I said, it’s not like the Yankees are overflowing with players who will help them at those positions next year. Except maybe at 3b where Alex could be back.

  183. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:34 am

    “Really? You’ve been kind of tepid on signing Drew so this is news to me :)”

    just trying to stay objective ;)

  184. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    Well I wouldn’t be opposed to grabbing 2 players in a deal, but I don’t think you necessarily need to get both of them in the same deal is all I’m saying. I think the Yankees could go and get a SS option for 2015 while also getting say Prado or Hill for the If this season.

    I don’t think trading for Prado or Hill would also mean having to pull back Didi. I’d like a better option. I agree with you in spirit overall though.

  185. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Some might call me, weak, but I’m glad I left dentistry before it killed me.

  186. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    And home LD% which is what I have been seeing which you have been critiquing, so I just checked the numbers to back up my eye test, a whopping 26.1 LD% (.261 BABIP). Bill James’d.

  187. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 11:38 am

    I wanted to try and get Prado before he was traded… that wouldn’t be a bad deal at all.

  188. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 11:38 am

    bbb51 April 18th, 2014 at 11:13 am
    Solarte has played only 30 games at SS in the minors…I suppose you could try Solarte there but it doesn’t sound like Girardi thinks he is more than an emergency SS.
    ******************************

    Betcha Girardi didn’t think Solarte would beat out Nunez for the 25th man either.

  189. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 11:38 am

    Guys… they shifted on Tex in the extended ST game. :lol:

  190. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    I can’t believe Towers still has a job.

  191. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:36 am
    Some might call me, weak, but I’m glad I left dentistry before it killed me.

    =========

    It’s a lot more fun being an exotic dancer too.

  192. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:40 am

    I practiced from July ’91 until somewhere in ’97. I’m thankfully ” non eligible ” at this point.

  193. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Why not shift on him, give him an opportunity to play into what he’s going to be seeing when he starts playing in real games.

  194. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    jmills, I am sure you made the right choice. Strong not weak. Sylvia would be proud of you.

  195. exiledintampa April 18th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 11:38 am
    Guys… they shifted on Tex in the extended ST game.

    And he hit right into it. 5-3 putout. The more things change the more they stay the same.

  196. Hankflorida April 18th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    86w183 says:
    April 18, 2014 at 10:26 am
    hankflorida —-

    Robinson Cano hit .278 with a .756 OPS in about 500 minor league games. Guys do get better through experience, hard work, etc

    You are right with certain players who show that raw talent for a short period, but Solarte had six years. I will gladly accept him as a .280 hitter.

  197. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Howler, have you seen the very good film, ” Exotica “?

  198. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Did Teix get any RH AB?

  199. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    I just don’t see the excited atmosphere in cheering Tex doing badly, he’s going to be a player on your team, you should be hoping he gets back in shape, makes a solid contribution and be close to the player he was. Otherwise, go cheer the Sox.

  200. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Chris asks: How about a trade for Chase Utley? Good idea and what might it take?
    Yes, please. Forget about his insanely hot start — hitting .462/.517/.769 (247 wRC+) with seven doubles and three homers in 58 plate appearances — the 2011-12 version of Utley (112 wRC+) would do just fine for me. He’s a power hitting left-handed second baseman who draws a lot of walks and plays strong defense. He also has no platoon split and some experience playing first base. Oh, and he’s an elite base-runner even though he doesn’t steal as many bases as he once did. Utley would be a wonderful addition to any team, but especially the Yankees since they have a black hole a second base.
    The problem is that Utley signed a two-year, $25M extension with the Phillies last season, taking a discount to remain with the team rather than test the free agent waters. Given the market, I think he could have gotten three or maybe even four guaranteed years as a free agent. I’m sure his hometown Dodgers would have been all over him. Utley has a partial no-trade clause and I have no idea what teams are included, but, more importantly, he’s beloved in Philadelphia and the only way the Phillies would trade him is as part of a total rebuild. I’d have no trouble giving up two top prospects to get him. Gary Sanchez and Manny Banuelos? Plus a third, lesser prospect? Fine by me. Utley would be a legitimate five or six win upgrade for the Yankees this year.

    http://www.riveraveblues.com

    Mike gets a little win now happy sometimes and this is one of those times to me…..I’d really love to have Utley but that’s a little steep on the price and also I think he’s probably overestimating the amount of wins he’d add……plus he’s pretty injury prone now. Boy Utley would crush YS though.

  201. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    jmills, really good film!

  202. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    yf, thanks, Plath has been a help, no end.

  203. kd April 18th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    utley would be great for the yankees but sanchez and manban? that’s a lot for an aging player

  204. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    I can’t believe Towers still has a job.

    Prado was his guy, maybe we can get him before KT gets cut loose. He has to be feeling the heat. MAybe he’ll do cash a solid before he goes. His moves as Arizona GM even make me question his scouting acumen regarding pitchers. That was always his call to fame, but would we want KT back as a special assistant to the GM after all this?

  205. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Axisa is a hack

  206. sjb23 April 18th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    This just occurred to me – Just using him as an example, I wonder if Solarte’s development in the minors was somehow stunted due to language barrier issues, cultural adaptation, etc.

  207. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Let Teix hit against Manny B. instead.

  208. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Bigdan – Well YF and I both were on Flores
    And Zoo before they started putting up numbers, so I can’t helP finding irony on your use of those two as examPles. Williams played in 17 G last
    Year in his first turn at AA. Patience I would say

  209. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    ” I’d have no trouble giving up two top prospects to get him. Gary Sanchez and Manny Banuelos? Plus a third, lesser prospect? Fine by me. ”

    :roll:

  210. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    “That was always his call to fame, but would we want KT back as a special assistant to the GM after all this?”

    man I don’t know…..it’s hard to say how much Arizona ownership has meddled…..did they make him trade Upton and Bauer for example? But he’s done some head scratching things…..the Cahill trade….etc….it just seems like he likes to re-arrange pieces sometimes rather than actually build something.

  211. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Chase Utley is awesome and all and for me he’d be like adding another Beltran that plays 2B….he’s that type of well rounded and smart player…..but he’s also pretty injury prone and he’s getting older. I just wouldn’t do that especially when you can still sign Drew for money only and keep Sanchez and Banuelos. I’d trade Banuelos and some other guys for Utley maybe…..but not Sanchez++

  212. jmills April 18th, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Funny how Sylvia Plath says she would be a Doctor if not a poet. Well, I’m some kind of quasi effed up doctor that aims for the highest poet!

  213. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 11:53 am

    If they’re absorbing Utley’s salary there’s no reason to give up anywhere near that for him. I wouldn’t anyway, and don’t think they’ll pursue Utley, but it’s an interesting discussion.

    You’d need to give them something… but what?

  214. JimK April 18th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    @Hankflorida, The other thing about Cano when he first came up was he was not promoted by the Yankee PR machine as the “next big thing.” One would think the Y’s would have learned by now is overhyping certain players puts too much pressure on these mostly “young kids” who inevitably fail to live up to expectations.

  215. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Anyone know if I disconnect my time capsule from my cable if I can reconnect it to the cable and have it still be set up OR will temporarily disconnecting it wipe out my wifi?

  216. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    The Phillies suck and Amaro can be crazy so everything else aside Cashman should absolutely be trying to make Utley his new 2B……that’s a move that could transform your ball club if he stays healthy.

  217. kd April 18th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    manban and sanchez for tulo please

  218. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:56 am

    give me a Solarte/Johnson/Sizemore, Jeter, Utley, Tex infield and I will be a happy camper……and we might win the WS.

  219. blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:56 am

    manban and sanchez for tulo please”

    now this I’d do

  220. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    and you may be able to win a WS with the infield you have and the rotation the team has, without wiping out the top prospects in the minors. Winning the WS is a matter of getting there and being hot at the right time, the best team doesn’t always win, we’ve seen that played out pretty often the last few years. If the Yankee rotation can hold up, they have as good a chance as anyone.

  221. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    Blake –

    Banuelos, Sanchez and a third prospect for Utley???? I would actually vomit.

    How about this:

    Mason Williams, Manny Banuelos, Rob Ryfsnyder and Gary Sanchez to the Pirates for Pedro Alvarez and Neil Walker?

  222. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 11:56 am

    manban and sanchez for tulo please”

    now this I’d do
    ———————-

    in my best Macho Man Randy Savage voice “ooooh yeah!”

  223. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    YF your maternal instincts are admirable but the important numbers don’t lie:

    Mason Williams last year in Tampa (461 PAs): OPS .676

    Last year in Trenton (76 PAs): OPS .428

    Last year in AFL: OPS .667

    This Spring Training (26 ABs): OPS .403

    This year in Trenton (62 PAs) OPS .710

    This guy hasn’t hit in like forever.

  224. willwill April 18th, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    i am beginning to think, betances would be better served in AAA but they have montgomery,burawa and lewis down there, the yankees are stacked in pitching potential.That’s just a fact,especially in relievers

  225. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    YF your maternal instincts are admirable but the important numbers don’t lie:
    ___
    bigdan, there are no maternal instincts in my baseball discussion. Nor do the numbers have any connection to maternity. Nice try.

  226. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    “Mason Williams, Manny Banuelos, Rob Ryfsnyder and Gary Sanchez to the Pirates for Pedro Alvarez and Neil Walker?”

    I don’t like Alvarez enough to do this…..strikes out way too much

  227. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    And bigdan, you need work on using stats. I gave you strong support for my argument in the numbers, and see nothing of the sort in your response. Are you really disregarding second half numbers, BABIP, line drive %, park factor, etc? And quoting a SSS for Mason this season? That’s your right, but I have nothing to add to the conversation at this point.

  228. willwill April 18th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Burawa and montgomery have been dominating thus far in the games they’ve pitched.So what really can you do?

  229. Hankflorida April 18th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Alfred, we all agree that Ellsbury is an outstanding ball player but to have Cano instead is icing on the cake. I do not think that Ellbury will give us power numbers but am hoping besides his table setter abilities, he will have a high BA with RISP.

  230. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    “Bigdan – Well YF and I both were on Flores
    And Zoo before they started putting up numbers, so I can’t helP finding irony on your use of those two as examPles. Williams played in 17 G last
    Year in his first turn at AA. Patience I would say”

    —–

    Excuse me? Like no one else can follow prospects but you? I’ve been following and writing about Flores since his Gulf Coast days. Zolio I didn’t start writing about probably to around 2012 when he started hitting in Trenton. I’m pretty sure there’s no copyright violations here to worry about.

    Williams really hasn’t hit since low A two years ago.

  231. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    Cleveland gets David Phelps
    Yankees get Lonnie Chisenhall

  232. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    willwill April 18th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    Burawa and montgomery have been dominating thus far in the games they’ve pitched.So what really can you do?
    ——————–

    Let Robertson walk as a FA this winter?

  233. pkyankfan69 April 18th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    So when Tex comes back…

    VS RHP

    Gardner – LF
    Jeter – SS
    Ellsbury – CF
    Beltran – RF
    McCann – C
    Tex – 1B
    Soriano – DH
    Johnson – 3B
    Solarte – 2B

    Vs LHP

    Ellsbury – CF
    Jeter – SS
    Beltran – RF
    Tex – 1B
    Soriano – DH
    MCcann – C
    Solarte – 3B
    Roberts – 2B
    Gardner – LF

  234. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    I wouldn’t pay that price for Utley, but if they could get Utley for a cheaper price I’d be all over that. He is really, really good and would be a huge upgrade for this team.

    Too bad he is oldish and injury prone, which makes any talk about acquiring him more iffy.

  235. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    Excuse me? Like no one else can follow prospects but you? I’ve been following and writing about Flores since his Gulf Coast days. Zolio I didn’t start writing about probably to around 2012 when he started hitting in Trenton. I’m pretty sure there’s no copyright violations here to worry about.
    ///

    That’s a real non sequitur there, dan.

    I find it ironic that you chose those two players as examples of legitimacy, because she was projecting that they would be ML players before the numbers occurred.

    My point: seeing players does give a person information, and Mason Williams has made an adjustment at AA since arriving late last season, and off a shoulder injury.

    Further, I can’t believe you resorted to gender-izing the debate you’re having; that’s pretty weak sauce, dan.

    My point is

  236. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    3 team deal:

    Indians get: David Phelps, Mason Williams and Jake Cave
    Angels get: Nick Swisher, Brian Roberts and John Ryan Murphy
    Yankees get: Lonnie Chisenhall and Howie Kendrick

  237. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    I wouldn’t let DRob walk, depending on price. As long as he is healthy, he is money.

    Burawa isn’t DRob, but he’s been plenty good. Those adjustments he made second half definitely fixed his control issues. Last game with the BBs and HBP was likely an anomaly b/c of the layoff he had. Montgomery, I haven’t seen at all this season, but wonder where his velo is at…

  238. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Who are you trading for Utley?

    I’m not giving up anyone really good and young for him.

    If they want to expand the deal and include Makiel Franco, well then that would change the goalposts.

    But Utley is 35 and has chondromalacia, which at best, is managed, but doesn’t go away.

  239. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Yankeefeminista –

    It’s the same dilemma the Yankees faced after the 96 season.

    Wetteland was money, he was 29 and he was a FA.

    Yankees had a younger reliever who was less expensive but also far less proven in Rivera behind him. They opted to let Wetteland walk.

    I’m in no way suggesting that Burawa, Betances, Jose Ramirez or Mark Montgomery are going to be the next Rivera. Just that the Yankees have a lot of young, inexpensive, live arms that they can run out there along with Shawn Kelley and possibly Adam Warren. Makes the likelihood of keeping Robertson very low in my opinion.

  240. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    “Too bad he is oldish and injury prone, which makes any talk about acquiring him more iffy.”

    oldish and injury prone is right up their ally though……I could see Cashman being all over this. I don’t know if they’ll trade him though…..Amaro has been delusional about rebuilding that club for awhile now…..everyone else can see that they need to but he just won’t do it.

  241. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    Good afternoon guys,

    Good posts on Betances JF, Chip and others.

    About Solarte, it is still too early. But he has had consistent good at bats, regardless of results. Has he been lucky?, yes. BABIP doesn’t lie on that respect. But he takes professional at bats every time he is on the plate. He took 24 pitches last night.

    On Mason, Flores and Zoilo: The latter two should be on the roster IMO. Or at least one of them. Ichiro shouldn’t. The little I have seen from Mason I have liked. Good at bats, goes oppo.

  242. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Who are you trading for Utley?

    I’m not giving up anyone really good and young for him.

    If they want to expand the deal and include Makiel Franco, well then that would change the goalposts.

    But Utley is 35 and has chondromalacia, which at best, is managed, but doesn’t go away.
    ———————

    It’s irrelevant, Utley has a complete NTC by virtue of being a 10/5 guy

  243. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    I’d trade any of the outfield prospects for Utley and probably any of the pitching prospects too…..honestly the 2 players I would want to not trade for him are Sanchez and Jagielo…..everyone else is fair game. He’s really good and you get him for next year too……Utley could be the difference in winning the division and not winning the division

  244. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    Mac,

    My wife lived in Austin when she was a child. She agrees with you, it is a very nice place to live.

  245. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    Ellsbury CF
    Jeter SS
    Utley 2B
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Soriano DH
    Tex 1B
    Solarte 3B
    Gardner LF

    Yes we are old but we will crush you like a grape.

  246. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    I wouldn’t trade any prospect for any player. Prospect huggers assemble

  247. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Utley?..Thanks but no thanks

  248. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Blake – I would offer Amaro John Ryan Murphy, Ramon Flores and Detrich Enns for Utley.

  249. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Blake,

    But that team has no long term future… We would be back to 2013 in no time

  250. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Utley could be the difference in winning the division and not winning the division
    ////

    He’s a great player, but he’s 35 years old with chronic knee problems. You gonna trade Manny B’s career for a year or two of Utley?

  251. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    I wouldn’t trade any prospect for any player. Prospect huggers assemble
    ———————-

    It’s true – any trade we make is just giving away guys who are going to be all stars….

  252. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Chip, I hear you, but Mo was likely more of a given in the Yankees estimate of proven commodity. We’ll see how the season plays out; the Yanks’ comfort level may change, but if they maintain this current trust factor or lack thereof in 8th and 9th, I would be surprised to see any of those RPs as a DRob replacement in the short term. I’d even bet they’d go outside to sign someone. Not that I don’t think those arms are viable; I’m a big fan of all of them, especially Dellin and JRam. Montgomery though I am curious about where his FB is currently at. It was very good a few years ago in Trenton and then whether it was a tired/fatigued arm or something else, he just lost the velo and the movement on that pitch.

  253. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Utley could be the difference in winning the division and not winning the division
    ////

    He’s a great player, but he’s 35 years old with chronic knee problems. You gonna trade Manny B’s career for a year or two of Utley?
    ————————————

    First – I wouldn’t trade Manny Banuelos for Utley

    Second – Having said that above; a year or two of ML production from Utley may be more than you ever get from Banuelos.

  254. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    I wouldn’t trade any prospect for any player. Prospect huggers assemble
    ////

    If they want to give me Makiel Franco – so I’m actually getting someone who has a future beyond a two-year twilight (if Utley’s knees don’t collapse under him again, that is), then I would certainly be talking to the Phillies.

  255. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    I wouldn’t trade any prospect for any player. Prospect huggers assemble
    ———————-

    It’s true – any trade we make is just giving away guys who are going to be all stars….
    ___
    Lohud fallacy again. I would trade almost anyone with probably the exception of Sanchez, depending on what I was getting. And actually the so-called huggers are the ones who keep saying, no, that guy isn’t a major leaguer, or point out the negatives when everyone has said guy joining the mlb roster. So, this is really the opposite of what is often said. But have at it if you must.

  256. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    YF,

    Last year when I got to see Montgomerie I was impressed with the slider. The FB looked pedestrian to me

  257. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    Utley may be more than you ever get from Banuelos.
    ///

    Well Virginia Woolf once said it’s dangerous to live even one day.

    Banking on the worst-case scenario for a talented young LHP isn’t the best logic for making trades, I would say.

    At least Beltran was a FA. Manny is reportedly throwing an easy 95 and feeling great. He’s also 22 years old and left-handed. There is no way I trade him for Utley’s past.

  258. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    …also we are in this position in the first place desperate for other teams players because we have not one under 30 homegrown position player and have no clue how to make beneficial trades… Long live FA!

  259. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    “But that team has no long term future… We would be back to 2013 in no time”

    depends on who you trade for him…..I mean what kind of long term future do they have by not making this deal at the moment? This is a win now team…..they made that clear when they lost all their draft picks and spent a fortune on players over 30.

    They have Tanaka, Pineda, and Nova all in the rotation who are 25/26 years old…..I wouldn’t enjoy trading Banuelos but I have enough questions about him that I’d move him for Utley and take an shot at winning a title over the next 2 years.

  260. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
    …also we are in this position in the first place desperate for other teams players because we have not one under 30 homegrown position player and have no clue how to make beneficial trades… Long live FA!

    ====================

    Or the patience required to develop them. Living always in the now with little or no regard toward the future on the franchise. 2011, 2012, 2013 was no accident

  261. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    I wouldn’t enjoy trading Banuelos but I have enough questions about him that I’d move him for Utley and take an shot at winning a title over the next 2 years.
    ///

    Let Cano walk and now you trade Banuelos for Utley? To give yourself a shot at winning it all?

    Those savings on Cano just get costlier and costlier.

    I don’t think even they would do this, however.

  262. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    I dunno what I’d give up for Utley if I were eating his salary. Phelps and maybe JR (only because he’s blocked but ideally I’d like to move JR for a young INF).

  263. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Luis,

    I have lived in Austin since 1979. What was then a sleepy metro area of 250,000, now is booming with at least a metro of 1,500,000. She might not recognize it. Of course, I would be delighted to show you both around.

    Wishing you well as always.

  264. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    “Let Cano walk and now you trade Banuelos for Utley? To give yourself a shot at winning it all?”

    well that’s neither her nor there at this point and to be fair Cano would have had to be paid 8 more seasons that Utley…..and when Utley is healthy he’s just about as good as Cano.

  265. Shame Spencer April 18th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    I wouldn’t give up Manny though…if he re-establishes value you could get a lot more via trade for our pitching than a couple seasons of Utley.

  266. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Hi luis! Yes, exactly. Slider was filthy and was even better when he had the 92+ fastball with late life. But not sure what that pitch looks like now.

  267. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    I wouldn’t give up Manny or Sanchez for Utley.

  268. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Blake,

    And repeat the same mistakes we made in the recent past?…The point in going all out this off season was to buy time to the new crop of prospects to develop. The “Winning now” mantra is more counterproductive than not. It is the reason we have suffered so many dissapointments in past decades

  269. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    I would trade any prospect but only for a young player who fits an area of need. Utley has been and is a great player, but I think it would be a mistake to trade our better prospects for him. I agree with Chip that this conversation is academic because he is not moving.

  270. blake April 18th, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    Manny is a tough one for me….I’ve always liked him a lot and still think he has a chance to be a really good starter in the big leagues one day……but again I have enough questions about him that I’d probably make the trade and go for it. I’d do it gritting my teeth though……I’d much prefer trying to do something cheaper

  271. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    Yankeefem –

    I think the key factors will be the development more of Betances and Warren than the guys in the minors. Buraway, Ramirez, Montgomery are guys who would be looked at to take over middle relief next year.

    As much as I like D-Rob, he’s also a very curious case – he’ll enter free agency presumably looking for closer money but only having been a closer for 1 season. The Yankees will have Alex’s contract back on the books and with as many relief options as they have, I think the $8-10/year could be better allocated elsewhere.

  272. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    austinmac,

    A good friend who travels quite a bit names Austin as one of his favorite American cities. He likes its European flair. I wouldn’t know – having never been, but we seem to resonate on cities we’ve both been to.

  273. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 18th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    J. Alfred – do you know what chondromalacia patella is?

    literally translates to pain around (under) the knee – also know as runner’s knee – And guess what almost everyone has it – It’s totally manageable, and wearing patellar tendon straps, doing US and icing after exercising usually takes care of the symptoms. It’s not something that, I, as a sports medicine practitioner, would expect to keep a professional athlete from playing, ever. If it did, i would expect said athlete would hear a lot of Vagisil jokes coming from both the training room and his teammates

  274. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    I’m no math whizz, but if a tram wins 10 of each 16 games they end up with a lot of wins!

  275. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    Don’t let Utley’s hot start fool you. Yeah he’s a fantastic player but he’s really injury prone and will probably be more so the older he gets. I would not trade a major prospect to get him.

    I actually am starting to like the infield with Sizemore and the emergence of Solarte. Sizemore is a legitimate player now that he is healthy. The defense is still extremely suspect but I think the offensive output will be enough with some mixture of Teixeira, Roberts, Jeter, Sizemore, Solarte and Johnson.

  276. comet April 18th, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    JAP:

    Who are the Cup finalists going to be this year? Think your Penguins are going to be there?

    Happy Easter all.

  277. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    well that’s neither her nor there at this point and to be fair Cano would have had to be paid 8 more seasons that Utley…..and when Utley is healthy he’s just about as good as Cano.
    ///

    He is not as good as Cano any more. At one time he was the standard, but he got old and Cano passed him.

    Paying Cano for eight seasons, with Manny Banuelos still in the system.

    Manny has no pain, throwing 95 mph, feels great, 22 years old.

    If the Yankees trade him for a 35-year old with bad knees, well that would be reach such a level of stupid I can’t even go there.

  278. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    JAP,

    We now have a Grand Prix race here to go with our old hippy music scene and big concert events. That goes with the huge high tech industry here. It is a curious mix. If you come, let me know, but avoid the summer at all cost.

  279. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Us,

    After that analysis, I think you are underplaying your math skills. :)

  280. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    Utley may be more than you ever get from Banuelos.
    ///

    Well Virginia Woolf once said it’s dangerous to live even one day.

    Banking on the worst-case scenario for a talented young LHP isn’t the best logic for making trades, I would say.

    At least Beltran was a FA. Manny is reportedly throwing an easy 95 and feeling great. He’s also 22 years old and left-handed. There is no way I trade him for Utley’s past.
    ———————-

    As I said, I wouldn’t do a Banuelos for Utley trade. But the problem with projecting minor leaguers in general is that while they may have a higher upside than the established player you’re trading them for, the odds of the prospect contributing to your team are still lower than those of the established player.

    As an example, based on prospect upside, sending Christian Guzman and Eric Milton to the Twins for Knoblauch was a bad deal. But Guzman and Milton didn’t turn into much for the Twins despite how highly regarded they were as prospects.

    As little as the Yankees got back from Damaso Marte and Xavier Nady, it’s still more than the Pirates have gotten out of Jose Tabata who was a top prospect.

    Manny Banuelos has the potential to be a top of the rotation starter as early as next year. He’s also been fairly brittle throughout his minor league career not including his TJ surgery and so as exciting as it is to hear that he’s throwing an easy 95 mph, it’s still just as likely that his career more closely mirrors that of Christian Garcia than Johan Santana.

  281. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    From 2005-2009 Utley was by far the best 2B in baseball. He was a 7-8 win player for that five year stretch, pretty impressive stuff. He developed chronic knee problems though and he hasn’t been the same since.

  282. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    blake, what are your concerns regarding Manny? Health or something other?
    _____
    “Or the patience required to develop them. Living always in the now with little or no regard toward the future on the franchise. 2011, 2012, 2013 was no accident”

    luis, yes, post 2009, I worried about age/lack of development factor. Seeing us live against Rangers in that 2010 playoff series was eye opening for me. We looked so old and overmatched. I would love to build from within. I still have high hopes that we will start doing so somewhat with the next position player group. Going to see the Charleston kids next week (Mi feliz semana despues Pascua!) and will envision them as future Yankees one day, no matter how remote/unlikely that is.
    ___
    Chip, agree Betances and Warren are key factors. I think JRam depends on how he heals, but if they are converting him, he can be in the mix quite quickly. Usually has good control, repeats well. Great K/BB ratio.

  283. luis April 18th, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Mac,

    WOW!! I didn’t know that…Curious fact though, she lived there from 1979 until 1983..Probably you will have to give us a tour

  284. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    As little as the Yankees got back from Damaso Marte and Xavier Nady, it’s still more than the Pirates have gotten out of Jose Tabata who was a top prospect.

    I agree with your post except this part. Tabata is nothing special but he has been worth like 3 WAR for the Pirates over the years. Nady/Marte contributed pretty much nothing to the Yankees. Nady had like a month long stretch of playing well and thats it. Marte was a zero

  285. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    comet,

    How ya doin?

    I refuse to predict where my ‘guins will be just because I don’t want to jinx matters :)

    They fooled around on Wednesday night and got away with it, and Letang probably had the worst game of his career, so I’m knocking wood that they got an early lesson that will bring wisdom going forward.

    I’m glad they didn’t win like 7-1 because they tend to come out flat after such offensive feasting.

    I don’t know who’s coming out of the West, no idea, really, but Blues are up 1-0 on Chicago I see.

    I haven’t really paid attention to the West enough to get a good feel.

    What I like about my guys is that we have a defenseman on each pairing who can make a decent outlet pass and two of three who can carry the mail and jump into trailer holes. Makes it much tougher to trap us if the defense is involved.

    I just hope to stay healthy.

    Any predictions on your end? I know your heart’s probably not in it, without the Leafs involved.

  286. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Yankeefeminista –

    There was a scout who positively speculated that as a relief pitcher Jose Ramirez would mirror Fernando Rodney in terms of stuff but with better control.

  287. luis April 18th, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Jose Tabata had fallen from grace by the time he was traded Chip. Still, I agree with Mac’s take. We need to trade prospects for young talent in areas of need. Not for past their prime players with a very high injuries concerns. We already have a lot of those to add more to it

  288. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Hello and Happy Easter, comet!

  289. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    Michelle,

    Thanks for that info. I not only know what it is, I have it :(

    Did you find any takers re your trip to YS? I think even if you don’t attend the game you go to with someone, there’s always someone to talk baseball with there. Hope you enjoy your trip.

  290. luis April 18th, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    Happy Eastern Comet and all

  291. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    Lets put it this way, Nady had 276 total plate appearances as a Yankee. Marte pitched 18.1 innings as a result of the trade. He later pitched 31 innings but that was on his deal signed after the trade.

    Tabata has 1569 plate appearances for the Pirates. Even if he’s not a great player, he has provided a TON more value. Yankees lose this trade pretty handily.

  292. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    …and Happy Passover ….

  293. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Hanrahan averaged 96-97 on his fastball in his best years. He has control issues. He doesn’t sound like a good bet while topping out at 93. Ramirez has as good or better chance to be helpful in my opinion.

  294. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    JAP,

    We now have a Grand Prix race here to go with our old hippy music scene and big concert events. That goes with the huge high tech industry here. It is a curious mix. If you come, let me know, but avoid the summer at all cost.
    ///

    If I find myself headed out that way, I will definitely let you know, thanks :)

  295. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    As little as the Yankees got back from Damaso Marte and Xavier Nady, it’s still more than the Pirates have gotten out of Jose Tabata who was a top prospect.

    I agree with your post except this part. Tabata is nothing special but he has been worth like 3 WAR for the Pirates over the years. Nady/Marte contributed pretty much nothing to the Yankees. Nady had like a month long stretch of playing well and thats it. Marte was a zero
    ———————-

    Fair enough – Tabata though is mostly a 4th or 5th OF at this point for them though and now that his salary is escalating through that idiotic extension his value relative to salary will actually decrease. That, however, is cherry picking by me because salary has nothing to do with development.

    Point is, when the Pirates traded for Jose Tabata they thought they were getting Raul Mondesi-lite. They ended up getting Justin Maxwell-lite.

  296. luis April 18th, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    BRB guys

  297. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Chip, like I said your overall point is well taken. Sometimes prospects flame out

  298. bigdan22 April 18th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    “That’s a real non sequitur there, dan.

    I find it ironic that you chose those two players as examples of legitimacy, because she was projecting that they would be ML players before the numbers occurred.

    My point: seeing players does give a person information, and Mason Williams has made an adjustment at AA since arriving late last season, and off a shoulder injury.

    Further, I can’t believe you resorted to gender-izing the debate you’re having; that’s pretty weak sauce, dan.

    My point is”

    ——

    The point is Mason Williams hasn’t hit in two years. And if he starts hitting this year that would be awesome for him, the organization, you, YF, his mom, the rest of his family or anyone else who seems to have a personal stake in this matter. For me, I’ll just wait till I see some numbers before getting too ramped up.

    One thing that is important in this discussion though is how folks continue to misuse what are often called advanced metrics. I’ve written about how WAR is frequently misused. I think what I would call “second level” stats, like BABIP and line drive rates, are also being misused as well.

    To measure offensive, specifically hitting performance, I believe OBP is the best stat there is. But batting average, and slugging, and OPS (although I think the slugging is over-weighted) and for league wide weighting and park effects, OPS+, are also very important metrics as well. These “first level” hitting stats are all you really need about 90% of the time. But there are instances when you may need or want to get more granular to try to evaluate the completeness of batting average or OBP or other first level stats. A good situation would be if you are trying to examine an outlier. Nick Swisher was a good example of how that type of second level analysis, by looking at BABIP and line drive rates helped to confirm an outlier, that is, a poor statistical season.

    But I think something like BABIP is not all that useful unless a player has developed some sort of baseline level of performance like Nick Swisher. I don’t think using BIBIP on a player who’s never played in the major leagues like Solarte, or using that data for minor league players who are changing levels, like Mason Williams, is very helpful and it may actually cause confusion. And I’m not even sure I trust line drive data because I’m not sure it’s even being accurately recorded.

    This a common theme. It’s not like the data is flawed (although line drive rates might be) or the metrics are flawed. Rather, it’s just how and when they are being used. When you see the kind of OBP or OPS numbers Williams has put up over an extended period of time, it is analytically improper to resort to second level statistics to discount what is very clearly poor offensive performance. I don’t believe advanced metrics were created to do that and when those metrics are used that way, we actually reduce rather than enhance our understanding of this great game.

  299. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Good afternoon Yankee people.

    :)

  300. blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    blake, what are your concerns regarding Manny? Health or something other”

    Health and command/approach…..he should have good command with his delivery but he just doesn’t yet. He frustrates me a lot when I watch him because instead of attacking he is nibble nibble nibble walk ……he’s very young and he could correct that but it’s a concern. I love Manny B…..of the players in the Yankees system he’s probably the 2nd or 3rd players Id least like to trade……but he’s not a sure thing and their pitching looks ok long term at the moment

  301. blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Chris Russo is an idiot. Carry on

  302. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Chip, like I said your overall point is well taken. Sometimes prospects flame out
    —————–

    Right, perhaps a better example would have been the Denny Neagle trade. Cincy got very good prospects in Henson and Jackson Melian. Neagle wasn’t particularly good, but Henson and Melian were never factors for the Reds at all.

  303. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Good afternoon Yankee people.
    ——————-

    Good afternoon.

    If you haven’t listened to them yet – Mumford & Sons should be on your spotify list.

  304. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Blake-

    The last thing to come back after TJS is command.

    Keep that in mind.

    ;)

  305. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Blake –

    As I said, assuming Utley were willing to be moved I would offer Amaro the following:

    Flores/Murphy, Warren & Cave

  306. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Chip-

    Blake turned me on to them a while back.

    But thanks for the additional heads up.

    How are things with you ?

  307. comet April 18th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Hey Luis, YF and MTU.

    JAP I like Chicago and the Bruins.

  308. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Chip-

    Blake turned me on to them a while back.

    But thanks for the additional heads up.

    How are things with you ?
    ———————

    Good – busy but life is good. You?

  309. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Chip,

    Christian Garcia isn’t a good comp, IMO; he’s had all sorts of injuries, including knee surgery. A shame, considering his talent.

  310. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    comet April 18th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Hey Luis, YF and MTU.

    JAP I like Chicago and the Bruins.
    ///

    Hope not :)

  311. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    blake, he didn’t nibble when he first got to Trenton. he wsa fearless. Command was really good. I think uptick in velo really contributed to command issues with FB. He always could command the change, but the curveball was in and out. But I think the TJ rehab will help strengthen arm and rest of his body. And will have given him a lot of time to work on mechanics. Post TJS I expect/hope he’ll be healthy as can be. One thing though is that I am a little concerned about how much he has bulked up. I hope that doesn’t mean he loses some of the fluidity, becomes too muscle bound across his chest. I haven’t seen him pitch yet, but the photos I have seen of him, he is a little overly muscular for my liking. Hope that doesn’t affect his pitching. Otherwise, I have high hopes for him.

    Hi MTU, how’s everyone doing?

  312. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    primo,

    Happy Easter to you and yours :)

  313. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Chip-

    Glad to hear that things are good for you.

    I’m out of my element on special assignment.

    Will not return to the nest for a while.

    Greetings Comet-

    Did you build an igloo this year ?

  314. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    YF-

    Some are better than others.

    You ?

  315. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    bigdan, 1.) he has hit, second half of last year was important, and 2.) this year’s #’s so far including BABIP and LD’s are highly relevant, compare to previous BABIP/LD’s (minor league comps are fine here for purposes of what kind of numbers he does and will/should put up this year), 3.) nothing personal about the discussion, so please dispense with the silly comments about maternity. So, there you have it; the proof will be in the pudding.

  316. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    I as passing thru on my mission and shot these:

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/WorldTradeCenter?authkey=Gv1sRgCOWYw86fjMjJYQ#

    Spectacular.

    Enjoy.

    :)

  317. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    MTU, I’ll keep sending prayers your way. I am doing fine. Thanks for asking. :)

  318. blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    The last thing to come back after TJS is command.”

    It was a problem before that…… I have watched him pitch a whole lot …..he nibbles…..

  319. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    JAP -

    Not like Banuelos was the picture of health leading up to his surgery in 2012:

    109 IP in 09
    64 IP in 10
    130 IP in 11

    I think he and Garcia are pretty accurate comparisons. When Hughes was all anyone talked about, the Yankees (and some scouts) believed Garcia was going to be the better pitcher – he was that good. Just couldn’t stay on the field. Banuelos could be better than anyone the Yankees have in their rotation now – but in 6 minor league seasons he hasn’t shown an ability to stay on the field.

  320. blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    YF,
    At some point though he has to show that good command again…..I didn’t say he couldn’t or wouldn’t…..just that it’s a concern

  321. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    It was a problem before that…… I have watched him pitch a whole lot …..he nibbles…..

    It wasn’t in Trenton. He didn’t nibble there.

  322. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Speaking of Garcia – he’s pitching in Syracuse for the Nats – has appeared in 5 games, 7 IP, 2 hits 1 ER, 2BB, 7K

  323. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    blake, I think he will. Command was his thing. Maybe he was nibbling because the arm was bothering him and he didn’t trust his stuff.

  324. blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    “It was a problem before that…… I have watched him pitch a whole lot …..he nibbles…..

    It wasn’t in Trenton. He didn’t nibble there.”

    How long ago was that though? Again this is a context discussion with a trade…..I still love manny b

  325. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    The last thing to come back after TJS is command.”

    It was a problem before that…… I have watched him pitch a whole lot …..he nibbles…..
    ———————-

    Which was what ultimately doomed Ian Kennedy here.

  326. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    FWIW – I’m not sure how much longer the Rockies can hold onto Tommy Kahnle. He’s given up 6 hits and 5 walks in 9.1 IP (with 6 strikeouts)

  327. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    YF-

    I appreciate all the help I can get and I believe the Creator is listening.

    Please keep them coming.

    Thanks much.

    I am glad you are well.

  328. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    Can’t compare Banuelos and Kennedy’s stuff.

    Apples to oranges IMO.

  329. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Pruf, and anyone else going to Lakewood:

    Upcoming Match-Ups (subject to change) — Listen to the RiverDogs on 1250 WTMA and on-line at http://www.riverdogs.com.

    Sat., April 19, 6:05pm Rome – RHP Frank Lafreniere (1-2, 7.07 ERA) @ Charleston – RHP Rookie Davis (2-0, 2.30 ERA)
    Sun., April 20 — Idle — South Atlantic League Off Day (Easter Sunday)

    Mon., April 21, 6:35pm Charleston – RHP Luis Severino (0-1, 3.24 ERA) @ Lakewood – RHP Mark Leiter, Jr. (2-1, 3.00 ERA)

  330. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Chip,

    I saw just about every Garcia start in Trenton.

    He and Betances – especially 2010-11 Betances – are the two most dominating pitchers I have ever seen down here.

    He’s had every conceivable problem it seems when it comes to health.

    Manny’s just 22 years old, and doesn’t have anywhere near the litany of health issues Garcia has accumulated.

  331. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    MTU,

    All the best for you and yours.
    ///

    YF, I’m all over Severino start.

  332. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    JAP -

    As I said, Banuelos hasn’t been a picture of health himself. His injuries, while more minor than Garcia’s shouldn’t be ignored.

    I’m not in favor of trading him for Chase Utley, but I’m also not willing to discount the possibility that Manny’s Yankee career might be derailed by injuries.

  333. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    IPK though was getting used to the MLB strike zone; didn’t have issues with getting those calls in the minors, so he was still making the adjustments, and did. The Yanks just didn’t want to be patient with him, preferred big arms to his. Ian never gave up the walks Manny did either.

    blake, 2011.

  334. kd April 18th, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    if manban becomes a ml starter, the yankees have a core of tanaka, pineda, nova and banuelos

    that’s something that very few teams could compete with. with cc (last night’s version) that’s impressive

    they can then focus their attention on the infield.

    if they get out from under the arod contract (buyout), there’s a fair bit of flexibility

  335. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Any pitcher’s career “might be derailed by injuries”.

    That’s not in dispute. Not really sure what we’re debating here – Manny isn’t a comp good comp for Garcia, who is made of glass.

    (Even so, the Nats were looking to restore him to starting.)

    You wouldn’t deal Manny for Utley, neither would I. Check.

    I don’t think the Yankees are doing that, either.

  336. mick April 18th, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    Come on down. I’ll show you around Austin, the best spot in Texas without a doubt.
    =======================================
    How far from Austin are you Austin?
    Have wanted to come down for awhile now, possibly one Fall.

  337. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    MTU, absolutely will do. Healing music helps too.

    Beautiful pics; so many emotions seeing them. Are you home? When were you down by Ground Zero?

  338. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Thanks JAP.

    Much appreciated.

    Hope things are well in your world.

  339. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Also ManBan is a lefty, so despite the great core we are building, that would be an important addition.

  340. comet April 18th, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    MTU we could have built an Igloo this past winter. It was cold enough and plenty of snow.

  341. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    YF-

    Yes. The place is incredibly impressive.

    So nice to see.

    I was passing thru about a week ago.

    Had an extra day so I took advantage.

    I am not home and likely wont be for at least another couple of months.

    I’m on a special mission. It is pretty much all consuming and takes all my attention.

  342. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    mick —

    I’ve been to Austin four times… great city. You can spend a week just checking out restaurants and clubs up and down 6th street.

  343. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:26 pm
    JAP -

    Not like Banuelos was the picture of health leading up to his surgery in 2012:

    109 IP in 09
    64 IP in 10
    ___
    89.2 in 2010; he pitched in the AFL that season.

  344. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Any pitcher’s career “might be derailed by injuries”.
    ———————–

    Which is why I’ve been saying, conceptually, I don’t mind trading a prospect for an established player, even one towards the end of his career because, while the prospect may have better long term potential there’s no guarantee he reaches it.

    Sometimes that philosophy works out as it did when the Yankees sent Henson and Melian to the Reds for Neagle, sometimes it doesn’t and you wind up trading Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Slocum.

  345. mick April 18th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    86

    How does it compare to New Orleans?

  346. Niki April 18th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I really like Solarte…a lot.

  347. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    If I ever hit Austin my 1st stop is “Franklin’s”.

    :)

  348. Howler April 18th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Hey MTU…sorry to hear you’re going to be away from home for so long, hitting a variety of places or just one area?

  349. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Comet-

    Enough to freeze the cajones off of a brass monkey for sure.

  350. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Howler-

    Mainly one area.

  351. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    MTU, I have wanted to go down there for a while. I haven’t been for over a year, although I used to go down there all the time. It will be inspiring to see something built there. Thanks again for sharing.

    Wishing you much healing and success on your special mission.

  352. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    No comparison at all. New Orleans is a pure party city…. phenomenal restaurants… clubs… decadence around every corner (spent about 25 nights in city).

    Austin is more like a true capital city with a very cool area on 6th street. Haven’t been there as much…

    You really have to be a drag to have a bad trip to either place.

  353. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Thank you YF.

    Very kind.

    I also managed a lunch in Chinatown.

    :)

  354. Doreen April 18th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    MTU -

    You’re in my prayers.

  355. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Doreen-

    Thank you.

    I appreciate your kindness.

    All the best to you.

  356. Madrugador April 18th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    I too like Solate. The guy is livng a dream. Can’t believe he will keep this up so i’ll enjoy it while it lasts but i’ll believe it if come August he is still putting up these kind of numbers.

    BTW Utley is a whiney baby along with his buddy Cole Hammels. I would not trade Cervelli for either pne of those losers.

  357. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    MTU —-

    I don’t know what’s happening, but wishing you the best as you tackle whatever challenge is ahead of you.

  358. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    “YF, I’m all over Severino start.”

    Good timing for once. Last time we missed Campos by a day. :mad:

    Thanks too for the words/support. ;)

  359. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    86,

    If you come again, let me know. Plenty of new spots–weekly. This city is crazy with growth, mainly young and hip. I think I am neither, but it’s fun.

  360. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    How about our rotation.

    It was so much fun kicking the tar out of Price last night.

    More of that please.

    :)

  361. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    MTU, NY Chinese food is good for the soul. :)

  362. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Garcia’s fastball has more movement than about any I have ever seen. It used to be at 94. I don’t know about now.

  363. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    YF – :D

  364. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    YF-

    Reminded me of my youth.

    :)

    86-

    Thanks.

    I appreciate your kind words.

  365. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Mac-

    Think Garcia was using Pine tar.

    :)

  366. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    I’m ready to hoist Bedard onto his own petard.

    :)

  367. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    austinmac,

    You mean Christian? Yeah he got great sink and his location, when it was there was both sides of the plate. Also, along with that sharp curve, he threw a nasty changeup that had a split-type drop.

    We were always breathless watching that kid, and he was always coming off the latest injury and trying to pitch back to strength. Even in that condition, he was a stud. The delivery though, always looked like there was stress on that elbow.

  368. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    MTU,

    And blow him to the moon? :)

  369. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Went to a sim dum place in Chinatown with the family three or four years ago.

    The serving carts were so beat up you couldn’t tell what was what and they sure couldn’t explain or describe it… but the food was great and ridiculously cheap by NYC standards.

    austimac — don’t know if it’ll happen, but it does I’ll take you up on that. I’m not all that young (55), but I do have a bad hip!

  370. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    I’m ready to hoist Bedard onto his own petard.
    ——————-

    Well played.

  371. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    i used to live in philly and i went to and watched alot of the phillies games.
    utley is an excellent player, the more you see of him, the more you like him. I’d love to see him on this Yankees team, (partly because his contract is expiring.)

    that being said, i would not trade banuelos for him.

  372. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    JAP-

    Why not.

    I always get a special kick out of watching Pruneface pucker.

    :)

  373. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Garcia was such a talent. In 2012 even after all the injuries, Nats said he was touching 97. He was hitting 93′s and topping 95 last season, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he could regain velo again: it seems like he is able to get velo back each time, but then he just gets hurt again. :( I hope and pray he makes it back.

  374. dan l April 18th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Wondering if Sizemore has an option left? It may have been asked an answered already if so I missed it.

  375. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    ok so i was dead wrong about his contract that runs through 2018.

    run, don’t walk away from that contract.

  376. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    JAP,

    I meant Christian. Glad to see he is still out there. He looked good briefly for the Nats, I think it was.

  377. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    MTU, nice to relive childhood memories. My dad used to take us to Chinatown on Chinese New Year every year and I was so afraid of the Dragon (I can still recall what it looked like and realize now in hindsight that it wasn’t very intimidating looking), but the food was scrumptious. :)

  378. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Pine tar-if there isn’t a glob of it on the ball, who cares?

    I think Nuno will go this weekend. If he pitches okay, he can probably go four innings. Then, mix and match.

  379. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    austin, so good that they wanted to turn him back into a starter. Still has multiple nasty pitches. Fingers crossed again for him.

  380. austinmac April 18th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    86,

    We can still act immature. I know I can.

  381. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    i wish met’s tickets on stubhub were as cheap as yankees tickets.

    i’m gonna have to shell out like a whole $15/ticket to go see the cardinals this time around.

    :(

  382. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Baseball America ?@BaseballAmerica 30m
    The Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders will be wearing hunters jerseys as part of their Outdoors Night tonight. http://ow.ly/vVQqx

    Zoo jersey, anyone?

  383. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    is anybody still planning on going to the Charleston game at Lakeland on Monday?

    I probably need to choose either Mets-Cards or Yankees-Blue Claws for that day.

  384. pkyankfan69 April 18th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Baseball America ?@BaseballAmerica 30m
    The Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders will be wearing hunters jerseys as part of their Outdoors Night tonight. http://ow.ly/vVQqx
    ————
    Wow, those are hideous

  385. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    MTU–

    Whatever is happening sounds ominous. I’ll pray that things work out for you in a great way. Best of luck!

  386. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Being that the RailRider’s mascot kinda looks like a dead porcupine that got hit by a train, the optic orange might be a good idea for them…

  387. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    ok so i was dead wrong about his contract that runs through 2018.

    run, don’t walk away from that contract.

    2016-2018 are vesting options though that require 500 PA in the previous season. Pretty easy to get around that if he is playing poorly. And if he isn’t playing poorly then its not bad at all.

    Only 2014-2015 is guaranteed, at very reasonable rates. I would definitely trade for Utley. He is really good.

  388. comet April 18th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Q: What do the Leafs and the Titanic have in common?
    A: They both look good until they hit the ice.

    Q: What’s the difference between the Toronto Maple Leafs and a cigarette vending machine?
    A: The vending machine has Players!

    Q: What’s the difference between a fat chick and the Leafs?
    A: Even a fat chick scores every once in a while…

    Q: What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and whales have in common?
    A: They both get totally confused when surrounded by ice.

    Q: Why are the Toronto Maple Leafs like Canada Post?
    A: They both wear uniforms and don’t deliver!

    Q: Why doesn’t Hamilton have an NHL team?
    A: Because then Toronto would want one…

    Q: What do the Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Argonauts and the Toronto Blue Jays all have in common besides being based in Toronto ?
    A: None of them can play hockey.

    Q: What do you call 25 millionaires around a TV watching the Stanley Cup Playoffs?
    A: The Toronto Maple Leafs.

    Q: What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and Billy Graham have in common?
    A. They both can make 20,000 people stand up and yell ‘Jesus Christ’.

    Q: How do you keep the Toronto Maple Leafs out of your yard?
    A: Put up a goal net.

    Q: What do you call a Toronto Maple Leaf with a Stanley Cup ring?
    A: A thief.
    Q: Where is the safest place to leave your naked wife?
    A: With the Leafs, they can’t score…

    Q: What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and possums have in common?
    A: Both play dead at home and get killed on the road.

    Q: How many Toronto Maple Leafs does it take to win a Stanley Cup?
    A: Nobody knows…And we may never find out

  389. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    YF-

    I spent many a Friday night down there.

  390. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    thanks jf. i didnt have time to read the contract specs before. i’d take that contract.

    i dont think i’d trade manny for him, but i think he’d fit on a team that’s already got jeter, beltran, ichiro and ellsbury on it.

  391. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Thanks Bojo.

  392. 86w183 April 18th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Those uniforms look like what would happen if the cast of Duck Dynasty got their hands on a can of orange spray paint.

    austimac — with me, appearing immature is not an act!

  393. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    thanks jf. i didnt have time to read the contract specs before. i’d take that contract.

    i dont think i’d trade manny for him, but i think he’d fit on a team that’s already got jeter, beltran, ichiro and ellsbury on it.
    ————————-

    With that swing and the ability to DH a couple of times he would hit 35 HR easily.

    Like I said, Warren, Cave and Murphy or Flores and I’m on board.

  394. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    I kinda like them even though I am not a hunter/fisherwomanperson. They beat the horrific July 4th Trenton jersey (which Jeet was forced to wear and got ribbed about) by a country mile.

    Ys Guy, I’m there if Severino indeed pitches; otherwise, I’m going Tuesday/Wed.

  395. comet April 18th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    MTU I gather you are going through some medical problems. Best wishes my friend! Hope everything works out.

  396. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    so what’s going on with you mtu? getting replacement parts? taking out something?

    they hacked into my brain 25 years ago and im still here to tell the tale.

    just remember, a positve attitude is the most important factor in recovering, so you will be fine! Friends help alot, too (so coming on here might be sketchy…)

    you know you will really have this whole motley crew rooting for you.

  397. J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Austinmac,

    The Nats were talking about reconverting him to a starter, but I think he got hurt again.

    Have a good one, all

  398. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    they hacked into my brain 25 years ago and im still here to tell the tale.

    That explains some of your posts! just kidding of course :)

  399. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    my gf is forcing me to choose between Charleston and the Cardinals, as it looks like Monday night will be the only night i’m free. (i was holding out the hope of seeing both but it looks like that won’t be possible :( )

  400. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    its fine patrick, i make that same joke regularly around here…

  401. tomingeorgia April 18th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Mister MTU,
    Trust in the Higher Power, and prevail through the ordeal. You’re the nicest guy on the net, and deserve to prosper.

  402. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 18th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
    Austinmac,

    The Nats were talking about reconverting him to a starter, but I think he got hurt again.

    Have a good one, all

    Did he get hurt when he heard they wanted to convert him, or after that?

  403. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    i just checked in on joba, boy, he really looks terrible. 5.1 IP, 8H 1BB.

    in doing so i once again noticed that 2007 season, his ERA+ was 1221! (no, there is no decimal point missing there!)

  404. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    they hacked into my brain 25 years ago and im still here to tell the tale.
    =======
    Did the x-rays find anything? Anything at all?

  405. comet April 18th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Hey Tom, how are you?

  406. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Joba and Hughes have both been hot garbage this year. IPK has been ok.

    Just typing that should be reason enough to be willing to trade prospects when you can.

  407. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Bojo, Garcia was told; started a bullpen session and came up with a forearm strain. So, they hadn’t yet attempted to stretch him out.

  408. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Sterling’s homer call for Solarte may have been the worst and best thing Ive ever heard at the same time if that’s possible…..I love John I can’t help it.

  409. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Sterling’s homer call for Solarte may have been the worst and best thing Ive ever heard at the same time if that’s possible…..I love John I can’t help it.
    ————————

    I felt the exact same way. It was one of those “he didn’t just do that? Thank GOD he did that” moments.

    Sterling as a gamecaller is terrible, but the man is an entertainer and if he messes up a call here or there the tradeoff is sooooo worth it.

  410. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    blake, I totally get that. Sterling is a pop icon/kitschy. What’s his Solarte homer call?

  411. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    yeah, the volare call was pretty good. i still don’t know what he’s saying when carlos hits one, though.

    My preference is for a better play-by-play guy but the calls can be amusing.

  412. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    “Sterling as a gamecaller is terrible, but the man is an entertainer and if he messes up a call here or there the tradeoff is sooooo worth it.”

    I think the homer calls are starting to venture into the endearing territory…..they are hilarious.

  413. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Fem –

    He starts it off by going “Never Nervous Yangervis” and then breaks into the chorus of “Volare” with Solarte instead.

  414. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “blake, I totally get that. Sterling is a pop icon/kitschy. What’s his Solarte homer call?”

    you’ll just have to look up the audio…..I don’t even know what he was saying but it was awesome.

  415. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “Who’s Sori nooooow? Not the Yankees!”

  416. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    I liked Berkman’s call too…..C’est Louie…..C’est Louie.

    I was disspointed with McCann Can though I’ll admit……he needs a better one for him

  417. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    I think the homer calls are starting to venture into the endearing territory…..they are hilarious.

    I think they are venturing into the atrocious territory. I’m hoping it goes from that to the “so bad they are good” territory

  418. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    solarte gets a double-call. “never-nervous yangervis” and SOOOOOOLARRTAYY, WHOA-OH!

  419. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Part of me really wants Lucas Duda to become a Yankee to see if Sterling would go with “There he goes just a walkin’ down the street singing ‘Duda diddy diddy dum diddy Duda’”

  420. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    “I think they are venturing into the atrocious territory. I’m hoping it goes from that to the “so bad they are good” territory”

    nah I think they are already there…..they are like Sharknado

  421. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Or Adam Dunn “Oh, he dunn it again!”

  422. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    “Part of me really wants Lucas Duda to become a Yankee to see if Sterling would go with “There he goes just a walkin’ down the street singing ‘Duda diddy diddy dum diddy Duda’”

    say what you want about Sterling but he clearly loves the Yankees and clearly loves his job…..it’s his life….God bless him

  423. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    “I think they are venturing into the atrocious territory. I’m hoping it goes from that to the “so bad they are good” territory”

    nah I think they are already there…..they are like Sharknado
    ——————–

    Fantastic analogy – John Sterling is the Sharknado of radio broadcasters. At best a guilty pleasure, at worst a train wreck you just have to watch.

  424. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    phil was once an excellent play-by-play guy but over the years he morphed into a caracature (sp).
    sterling started out that way. but now he’s approaching ‘crazy grampa’ status where you just have to deal with what you get and try to laugh about it.

  425. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    i just never got over the “ISLANDERGOAL, ISLANDERGOAL, ISLANDERGOAL” thing.

  426. Chip April 18th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    “Part of me really wants Lucas Duda to become a Yankee to see if Sterling would go with “There he goes just a walkin’ down the street singing ‘Duda diddy diddy dum diddy Duda’”

    say what you want about Sterling but he clearly loves the Yankees and clearly loves his job…..it’s his life….God bless him
    ————————-

    I’ll take him over a guy like Joe Buck who acts like he has a stick up his rear and is too cool for the job.

  427. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    nah I think they are already there…..they are like Sharknado

    I’m not there yet with you.

    Also why is Beltran’s not “BELTRAN BELTED ONE” that makes more sense to me. I haven’t heard McCann’s call, anyone know what it is?

  428. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    I think if I listened to every game on the radio then maybe Sterling and Suzy would wear on me…..but I watch most of them on TV and the handful I listen to on the radio I always enjoy……even if what they are saying really isn’t what happened in real life.

  429. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    McCann can….that ones lame.

  430. Patrick April 18th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    I would go with McCann McCrushed it! Still pretty lame.

  431. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    unlike most, i dont mind joe buck too much.

    his dad was the best there ever was imo.

  432. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    bob murphy was excellent, too.

  433. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:09 pm
    Bojo, Garcia was told; started a bullpen session and came up with a forearm strain. So, they hadn’t yet attempted to stretch him out.

    That is really too bad. always rooted for that kid.

  434. MTU April 18th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Thanks guys.

    I’m fine.

    Trying to nurse a loved one back to health.

  435. blake April 18th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Joe Buck just seems to me like he’d rather be anywhere else than calling a baseball game…..he’s incredibly boring.

  436. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Howie Rose is very good too. i find his hatred of all things Yankee to be amusing.

  437. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    McCann’s the Man! Oh can you do the McCann can? You know that McCann can! Yes he can cuz McCann Man!

  438. Doreen April 18th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    I agree that John & Suzyn, in limited listening, are kinda fun, quirky, harmless. Except, if you’re tuning in mid-game and want a score. That’s haphazard. Sometimes you get a score, sometimes you don’t. I had two recent experiences, one about 2 weeks ago, one this week. the first one, got the score right away, the second one – no clue. Usually when I’m in the car, it’s an in-and-out experience, with lots of stops. I’d really appreciate more frequent score updates.

    I can see though, if they are your only access to the Yankees, they’d get on your nerves really quickly.

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    yankeefeminista and JAP, if you’re still around, I’m researching organic farms, farmer’s markets in the Mercer County area. Are there any that you are familiar with and/or would recommend?

    Thanks in Advance.

  439. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    dor, can’t you tell if they’re winning or losing by john’s tone?

    relaxed when they’re winning comfortably, a little quicker when it’s close and scolding when they’re getting beat. They’ll eventually get around to telling you the actual score, probably…

  440. Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Sterling has a good voice for radio but I’m sorry the rest of his kit is a disaster. Fun HR calls mean little when you barely get a description of what is going on.

  441. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Typos…sorry…to the tune of the CanCan

    McCann’s the Man!
    Oh can you do the McCann can? You know that McCann can! Yes he can cuz he’s a McCann Man! All the way from home plate to where it lands, lands.

  442. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    So, he does do the Volare, that’s an obvious one, but I like it. And the intro into it is so, well so, John Sterling. LOL. I only listen to them when I have to, but I do like the “throwback” quality even though they are inept, especially John. They are musts post-game leaving the Stadium, whenever I am in the car (although John’s mis-calls almost make me crash), and love to hear John’s highlights after a big playoff win. They always have the ability to transport me to late summer afternoons, flooding me with family Yankee memories. Plus they make me laugh. And I’m grateful for that.

    And blake, well said: they are endearing (like well-meaning relatives) and hilarious (as long as you realize you have no idea what is going on in the game…) and I’ll take them over Michael Kay any day of the week.

  443. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Or better yet…to the tune of the CanCan

    McCann’s the Man!
    Oh can you hit a McCann slam? You know that McCann can! Yes he can cuz he’s a McCann Man! All the way from home plate to where it lands, lands.

  444. BoJo April 18th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Jerkface April 18th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
    Sterling has a good voice for radio but I’m sorry the rest of his kit is a disaster. Fun HR calls mean little when you barely get a description of what is going on.
    —-
    I thought that was why they invented Gameday.

  445. sammiejohnson April 18th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

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  446. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Hi Doreen, there are a few in Princeton. Also I don’t go to farmers market there very often, but I know there is one in the square next to the Princeton Public Library weekly in the summer. But one of the Princeton farmers goes to my local farmer’s market and I love them and their produce. They are Cherry Grove Organic Farm on Carter Rd. in Princeton. I think you can just go out to the farm certain days of the week. I’ll see if I can find a link.

  447. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    http://jerseyfresh.nj.gov/find.....tml#mercer

    Some aren’t organic though. Also you can check out other counties if you wish to.

  448. comet April 18th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    I don’t have MLBtv. I do have MLB audio and so listen to most of the games on my computer. Later at night I can WFAN and can listen to them that way or on XM radio. I prefer John Sterling to what I can find on other teams broadcasts.

  449. exiledintampa April 18th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    This from a Rays blog:
    The frustration continues. This team is a dumpster fire right now, but hang in there. The highs feel so much better when the lows are this low.

    They’re back to calling them the Devil Rays. One poster said the highlite of the nite was that at one point Molina was 1-1. They have a sence of humor at least.

    We need to jump on them now. We are at a high. It don’t get much lower for them than now.

    SWEEP!!

  450. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    I thought that was why they invented Gameday.
    —-
    Gameday rocks! Now all we need is a pitch grip camera and fielding fx and we’ll be all set (and John-and-Suzyn-foolproof except unfortunately not while driving.)

  451. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    ive heard john call about 2500 ballgames and he’s always been annoying.

  452. Doreen April 18th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    yankeefeminista -

    Thanks you. I found Cherry Grove Organic Farm, and they are open daily so I am going to take a ride there sometime in the next week or so to check them out.

    I found a couple in Monmouth county as well.

    Do you know anyone that does sharing? Some of the farms seem to only sell through these memberships, where you invest at the beginning of the year, and then pick up produce once a week on a specific time.

  453. Ys Guy April 18th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    i always like bill white. knew the game inside and out and had an edge to him.

  454. Doreen April 18th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    the worst part of Yankee radio broadcasts are the incessant commercial tie-ins. I’d rather they just do a commercial than the “that was a Grand Slam by Carlo Beltan, and you can get your own grand slam down at Joe’s diner” stuff. You know the schpiel. Like every nanosecond of a Yankee game experience is sold to someone.

    That’s what really interrupts the game.

    The banter between John & Suzyn, well, they’re co-workers and know each other well, and it’s their personalties, so I can take that (as long as they give the SCORE!!)

  455. yankeefeminista April 18th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Doreen, I don’t, but you can ask at the farm. Farmers markets are a great place too to get info. And depending on the market, usually have a couple of organic farmers selling produce, plus a bunch of other more alternative products from baked goods to raw honey.

  456. mick April 18th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    No Roberts? Is he hurt again?

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