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Game 18: Yankees at Rays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 19, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ivan NovaYANKEES (10-7)
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Brett Gardner LF
Carlos Beltran DH
Brian McCann C
Alfonso Soriano RF
Yangervis Solarte 3B
Kelly Johnson 1B
Brian Roberts 2B
Dean Anna 2B

RHP Ivan Nova (2-1, 5.94)
Nova vs. Rays

RAYS (8-9)
David DeJesus CF
Ben Zobrist 2B
Matt Joyce DH
Evan Longoria 3B
James Loney 1B
Wil Myers RF
Sean Rodriguez LF
Yunel Escobar SS
Ryan Hanigan C

RHP Chris Archer (1-1, 4.50)
Archer vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, YES Network

WEATHER: Been raining off and on, but there’s a roof.

UMPIRES: HP Marty Foster, 1B Clint Fagan, 2B Rob Drake, 3B Joe West

FAMILIAR FEELING: The Yankees have now started three straight seasons with a 10-7 record after 17 games.

SECURE AFTER SIX (MOSTLY): Last night was the first time this season that the Yankees lost a game when leading after six innings. They’re 10-1 in such games. They’re 0-6 when tied or trailing after six innings.

OFF AND RUNNING: Jacoby Ellsbury has eight stolen bases, tied with Elvis Andrus for the most in the American League entering today. Ellsbury and Andrus trailed Dee Gordon (10) and Eric Young (9) for the major-league lead in stolen bases.

BETTER AT HOME: In his career, Ivan Nova is 4-3 with a 2.13 ERA in eight career starts against the Rays at Yankee Stadium. Facing the Rays at Tropicana Field, though, Nova is 2-1 with a 4.56 ERA in five appearances (four starts).

UPDATE, 7:39 p.m.: Pretty uneventful through the first inning and a half, so I can only assume the rest of this game will be absurd. Ellsbury’s single and caught stealing is the most action of the game so far.

UPDATE, 7:42 p.m.: Solo homer for Wil Myers, this first of the year. It came on a 1-1 curveball.

UPDATE, 8:00 p.m.: The Rays second homer of the game is a solo shot by Ryan Hanigan, and it’s now a 2-0 game.

UPDATE, 8:06 p.m.: The Rays third homer of the game is a long one and a big one, a two-run shot by Longoria to make it 4-0 in the third inning. Not a good way to start when the Yankees need to avoid using Vidal Nuno.

UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Archer has faced the minimum through four innings.

UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: And there’s another Rays homer. This is Hanigan’s second of the game, another two-run shot, and it’s now 6-0 in the fourth. Ugly.

UPDATE, 8:37 p.m.: The Yankees have their first hit since Ellsbury started the game with a single (nevermind that this second hit didn’t even leave the infield).

UPDATE, 8:42 p.m.: Yankees are on the board with Kelly Johnson’s two-out RBI double here in the fifth inning. Still a 6-1 game.

UPDATE, 8:53 p.m.: Seems to be something wrong with Nova. Just reading lips on the television, Girardi said something about “feeling” something. He either asked Nova where he’s feeling it or what he’s feeling, but it definitely looked like Nova said something about feeling something and the Yankees pulled him. Matt Daley is in now. Nova looked pretty bad (obviously).

UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: Now Myers has his second home run of the night. It’s a three-run shot of Daley for a 10-1 Rays lead. Wonder if Daley might wear it for a while tonight and pay the price with a demotion tomorrow.

UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: Daley just threw 41 pitches and got four outs. Here’s Betances in a game that’s well out of hand at 12-1 in the sixth.

UPDATE, 9:47 p.m.: Error by Solarte opened the door, and now Betances has walked in a run. The Yankees still have two more innings to fill, and after David Phelps and Adam Warren each pitched last night, my guess is that Betances is the last guy who can give multiple innings tonight. Daley was going to have to be the mopup man, but his 41 pitches were good for only four outs.

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613 Responses to “Game 18: Yankees at Rays”

  1. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Go Vato! Go Yanks!

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Vato on one screen, Sid and Malkin on the other.

  3. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    Bring yer “A” game guys. Go Yankees!

  4. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Ellsbury MVP

  5. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Ellsbury replaces Robbie as my new, must see at bat.

  6. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Archer dominated Yanks last season – will it continue – possibly so

  7. Benny Blanco April 19th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    ells can flat out hit

  8. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    2-1 to Gardner changes the complexion of this inning

  9. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    generous K zone so far

  10. NYY fan in NH April 19th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    Ellsbury could lead the league in hits this year!

  11. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Exiled – Let’s just say that didn’t come out right. :grin:

  12. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    worrisome rehab start for Banuelos – 2/3 inning 5 H, 4ERs, 1 K

  13. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    Archer off to another start against the Yanks – could have used a nice score after a disappointing game last night

  14. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Archer dominated Yanks last season – will it continue – possibly so
    ===============

    Completely different team unless the uniforms make an impact on his performance

  15. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    prodigious day for Pete O’Brien – 2HRs and a double for Tampa Yanks – avg. now up to .370

  16. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    This inning could set the tone for Nova, don’t know why

  17. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Caleb Smith continues his good start for low A Charleston – a lefty that it is

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    Nasty

  19. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    I wonder how much Zobrist will cost in FA. that’s the kind of do everything guy I could get on board with. Rays won’t pay him what he’s worth.

  20. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    just a long loud out

  21. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    IF defense.

  22. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    blooper reel

  23. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Infield D doesn’t matter. :roll:

  24. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    K

  25. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Nova has his good CB tonight, so thats a good sign

  26. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Nova pitches around it. This is the Nova I like!

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Looks like that sharp break is back on the curve.

  28. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    nice job Ivan!

  29. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Can’t hit what ya can’t reach. Filthy stuff.

  30. comet April 19th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Hey Pru. Penguins leading 2-1!

  31. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    pete2, yep.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    pete2, sure is.

    UnKnown – what happened in IF? Was focused on my ‘guins (thanks for good wishes for them, btw :) )

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    comet April 19th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Hey Pru. Penguins leading 2-1!
    ///

    Thanks, comet, yeah, but they’ll give me agita all the way through.

  34. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Refsnyder continues to climb in AA and Austin goes extra bases

  35. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Even going against the shift McCann can’t avoid the gloves

  36. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Nice attempt on the oppo shot and nice play. Take notes, Teix!

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    That’s what Warren couldn’t do yesterday when he had hitters down 0-2.

  38. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    KJ went to field a ball that he need to let Roberts handle.

  39. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    So far better swings against Archer, but same results so far

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Gibbons reminding me of a young Martin Straka. I like :D

  41. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Archer efficient – will be tough

  42. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    primo April 19th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Teix only cares about his bank account. He’s not going to take notes or adjust his approach.
    ===================

    Said the 2 weeks off helped his wrist, but before he got hurt he said his wrist was fine.

  43. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Johnson fields that one

  44. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    wish Yanks had this strike zone yesterday

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    KJ went to field a ball that he need to let Roberts handle.
    ///

    Thanks

    Effin Wil Myers

  46. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    bad job there

  47. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    That was an absolute meatball. It’s amazing how many mistake pitches Nova throws.

  48. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    I said last night Myers was a time bomb waiting to go off. I think it went off

  49. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    IF defense Take II

  50. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Ugh

  51. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    que clown car

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Robi makes that play with his eyes closed.

    Well, you get what you pay for.

  53. jlyanks85 April 19th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    What’s with no batting gloves for Myers? Who even does that nowadays?

  54. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    so far 1b and 2b embarrassed themselves tonight – are ss and 3b up next?

  55. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    That ball has to be caught. The defense has been terrible all season so far.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Solo homers are NBD

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    That’s right, stick with the 2-seamer

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    curve/2seamer is the ticket Vato

  59. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Robi makes that play with his eyes closed.
    ———–
    And probably would have took Archer deep in the 1st inning.

  60. luis April 19th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Good evening guys,

    Just got in…. Didn’t see the homer..Must have been with a hanging curveball…Two seamer looked good to me and the slider he didn’t get the call was a very good pitch as well.

    YF,

    Yes..I am watching..Better late than never ;)

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Nisky is unconscious

  62. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Wrong forum, sorry guys :)

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    And probably would have took Archer deep in the 1st inning.
    ////

    :mad:

  64. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Novas been getting ahead of almost every batter 0-2 or 1-2, his curve looks much better than his previous games, even though I think the Wil Myers home run was on a hanger.

  65. jlyanks85 April 19th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Why is archer turn into sandy Koufax vs the Yankees? Be nice to finally pound this guy.

  66. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Hi Luis, good to hear!! Keep me posted, as I am trying to watch both our Vato and my hockey team’s playoff game. Yes, the homer was on a hanging curveball. One of the few bad ones he has thrown.

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Well it didn’t help that he threw him three straight.

    Solo homers don’t bother me.

    Go VATO

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Uh, because the guy is good??

  69. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
    Nisky is unconscious
    ____
    True!

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Yankeefem – Niskanen is just beasting in these first two games.

    Letang can’t have a worse game than Wednesday’s and he’s probably not in a great mood, so I expect those two to be all over the ice tonight.

  71. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Told ya last night that the bullpen collapse would lead to losing the next two…

  72. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    This guy Hanigan looks a lot like Mark Reynolds

  73. luis April 19th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Miss his location by a foot

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Crap that ran right over the plate.

    Vato, that’s your quota on homers tonight, ok amigo?

  75. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Nova with another mistake pitch. I don’t know who makes more mistakes over the plate him or CC?! Eventually a trip to the minors this year will solve things for him.

  76. NYY fan in NH April 19th, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Looks like inconsistent sucky Nova is pitching tonight

  77. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 7:58 pm
    Crap that ran right over the plate.

    Vato, that’s your quota on homers tonight, ok amigo?

    =====================

    Actually, it sailed in to the inside corner… That guy did a good job at keeping it fair

  78. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    Nova is nothing special. He has a couple of good games and everyone goes crazy like he is a number 1 starter. He is way too inconsistent and makes too many mistakes over the plate.

  79. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    primo,

    It wasn’t in enough, it ran middle in

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    That comment was for luis, obviously

  81. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    I wonder if he is tipping pitches or something. The Rays who are a terrible hitting team look like they know what is coming.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    That’s it

  83. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Ahhhh everybody look at little CR…he’s crying for attention again.

  84. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Rays have not developed a single MLB IF’er since Longoria. Missing those high draft picks

  85. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    JAP,

    The CB or slurve looks a little loopy

  86. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Nasty pitch

  87. joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Good night

  88. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Another wonky curve.

  89. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    I know JAP

    =================

    Listen… I know that you are looking for trouble again…Why don’t go and look for it somewhere else?

    Crap

  90. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Oh My, so much for the 1st inning setting the tone

  91. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Do the Yankees ever get Longoria out? It makes me sick already. They have no idea how to pitch to him.

  92. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Nice pitch. A couple in that AB

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    primo,

    Like that one?? crap, he was throwing a sharp curve early

  94. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    That was an absolute meatball right down the middle. Time to stretch Phelps or Warren out. Nova stinks.

  95. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    “….his curve looks much better than his previous games”

    With the exception of two home runs he has given up on hanging breaking balls.

  96. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    So, what is special about Nova?

  97. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Curve hasn’t been consistent all reg season. Just atypical.

  98. cofuzz April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Looks like Nova needs his annual trip to the minors…

  99. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    I turned the game on 10m ago and could see Nova has absolutely no command tonight.

  100. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Really bad CB.

    The Rays are over confident right now…. plenty of baseball left

  101. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Seems like he’s lowered his arm or something, like he’s more rotational in his delivery

    luis, what do you think?

  102. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    His curve was sharp in the 1st inning, not so sharp after.

  103. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:07 pm
    primo,

    Like that one?? crap, he was throwing a sharp curve early

    ===================

    Pretty much :( It has no bite and it is predictable

  104. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    another run or two and we’ll be guaranteed to see delin mopping up

  105. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    His curve was sharp in the 1st inning, not so sharp after.

    He probably felt really good about it after the first 2 innings, and it just hasn’t been very good this inning. Sucks. Consistency has been Nova’s biggest problem.

  106. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Nova’s inconsistency is what’s most troubling. He’s now 27 and the Yankees will at some point need to decide if they are in it for the long run with him or if they are going to deal him. If the latter, they run the risk of waiting too long like they did with Joba and Hughes.

  107. comet April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Hey Luis glad you could make it. Sorry about the score. What time is it in Ven?

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Maybe his shoulder’s bothering him? He’s not over the top like he was when he was very good last year

  109. tomingeorgia April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Blog’s not going to be fun tonight. Happy Easter!

  110. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Would trade Nova if we could something of value.

  111. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    All kinds of trouble with MLB.TV…its getting me frustrated

  112. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Nova’s head bothers him, or lack thereof.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    another run or two and we’ll be guaranteed to see delin mopping up
    ///

    willwill, Dellin should be a starter. You’ve been high on him before he made the team, haven’t you?

  114. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Nova is hurt. It seems like when he is pitching really bad it’s because his shoulder isn’t 100% and he never tells the Yanks about it.

  115. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Crap! Crap! Crap! Vato is crap.

  116. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
    Seems like he’s lowered his arm or something, like he’s more rotational in his delivery

    luis, what do you think?

    =================

    I will pay attention…I was concentrating on the ball action…But when the CB gets loopy it usually is by either lowering the arm slot or opening up the shoulder a tad too soon, but he wouldn’t be able to throw it for strikes

  117. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Gotta laugh at people making excuses for Nova.

    This is what he’s always been. It’s not an injury. He’s just not very good.

  118. jlyanks85 April 19th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Man this blog is brutal to read at when the Yankees are losing games. You would think its the playoffs and not April 19th.

  119. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Clutch,

    Could be. He was hurt last year and they said he had to play through it. It was shoulder tendinitis, IIRC

  120. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Who says crap anymore?

  121. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    CR

    Grow up,w hat are you 7 years old? Go take your meds and stop being a child.

  122. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Hey Comet,

    rRght now is 7:44 pm

  123. Yankees_Fan April 19th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    At this point, you trade Nova the next solid stretch he has. His inconsistency has reached an alarming point,no? Especially when he always thinks he has pitched a good game and has results like tonight to show for it.

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    jlyanks,

    You’ve got one guy with two aliases and another “regular” who basically does nothing but troll people.

    The rest of us are watching the game :)

  125. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    FYI on Nova. He’s going through a divorce. I was house shopping and met a real estate agent in Westchester county who does a lot of the Yankees and he blabbed about how he found Novas wife a condo recently separate from him. Think there’s kids there. Might explain why.

  126. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    His inconsistency has reached an alarming point,no?
    ///

    It’s April, no?

  127. NYY fan in NH April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Nova is creepy up there with the likes of Hughes and Joba as far as his inconsistencies and failures to adjust. Terrible outing tonight!

  128. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    mlb.tv has been buggy this year, fortunately I don’t have to deal with it for this game

  129. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Who has been the nice looking lady with Nova in his instagram pics. His wife or his new girl.

  130. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Tar,

    He is obviously frustrated by something and is looking for trouble in here.

    ========================

    It’s incredible how the CU hurts us so bad…Let the ball travel deep, go oppo…

  131. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    seem Girardi wants to talk to Tex about something .. I wonder what that is gonna be? May be along the lines of, “we are going to bat you 6th?” thing?

    I have been disliking Tex since 2010/end of 2009. But like I said the other night, he has a lot to prove this year. Nobody is going to give him a free pass like he has basically gotten his entire time in NY.. and he is traveling down the Carl Pavano path of disgust… but anyway, I’m hoping he is going to show a little more competitiveness and it wouldn’t surprise me if he turns it up a notch. At least until he starts making excuses for stinking.

    Also even though his D has been terrible so far this season, I welcome his glove back at 1B. It’s just going to be difficult to watch Tex and McCaan kill us with their bats.

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    GLove,

    Interesting. These guys do have lives, perhaps there’s something to that.

  133. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    50 pitches through 4. Archer could go deep tonight

  134. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    No, it’s atypical. This is not his normal curveball. Even when he has been bad in the past, it isn’t the curve that is usually the problem. It doesn’t have the hard curve/lateral movement at around 80; this is a slower, loopier more prone curve he is throwing.

  135. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:16 pm
    mlb.tv has been buggy this year, fortunately I don’t have to deal with it for this game

    How so? My connections seems to drop at times and then the screen size when I +/- it doesn’t ever go back to full screen.. but what problems are you referring to?

  136. charlestonchew April 19th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    I would trade any 5 Yankees players for Archer no questions asked. And give the rays $50 mil.

  137. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    It’s hard to sympathize with athletes whose team you root for.
    If he keeps pitching like this for another month should we still be touch feelly for him?

  138. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm
    jlyanks,

    You’ve got one guy with two aliases and another “regular” who basically does nothing but troll people.

    The rest of us are watching the game :)

    =================

    Pretty much

  139. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Nova will get it figured out….

  140. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Pruf,

    I think there’s something to it. Novas stuff is there. It’s probably mental.

  141. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm
    jlyanks,

    You’ve got one guy with two aliases and another “regular” who basically does nothing but troll people.

    The rest of us are watching the game :)

    =================

    Pretty much

  142. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Nova will get it figured out….

  143. joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    I think Nova’s problems are all concentration and execution. You cant make batter look as bad as he does and then get crushed three pitches later. He’ s tough tp watch

  144. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Nova will get it figured out….

  145. CountryClub April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Nova is what he is at this point. Up and down, up and down. The biggest problem with him is that good games and bad games come in bunches. Right now we’re clearly in a bad game bunch. So I guess we have a good stretch to look forward to…..

  146. joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    I think Nova’s problems are all concentration and execution. You cant make batter look as bad as he does and then get crushed three pitches later. He’ s tough tp watch

  147. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Pruf,

    I think there’s something to it. Novas stuff is there. It’s probably mental.

  148. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    “Tar,

    He is obviously frustrated by something and is looking for trouble in here.”

    Yes Luis. He gets frustrated and like a child tries to take it out on us Yankee fans. I’m glad everybody else is ignoring him. Me I will keep reminding him that what he’s doing is childish.

  149. CountryClub April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Nova is what he is at this point. Up and down, up and down. The biggest problem with him is that good games and bad games come in bunches. Right now we’re clearly in a bad game bunch. So I guess we have a good stretch to look forward to…..

  150. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    “Tar,

    He is obviously frustrated by something and is looking for trouble in here.”

    Yes Luis. He gets frustrated and like a child tries to take it out on us Yankee fans. I’m glad everybody else is ignoring him. Me I will keep reminding him that what he’s doing is childish.

  151. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Pruf,

    I think there’s something to it. Novas stuff is there. It’s probably mental.

  152. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    We can all get on Nova…and, yes, he’s been pretty awful so far this year…but how about the offense taking a leaf out of the Rays’ book and mounting a fightback from 4-0 down? Archer got knocked all over the ballpark on his last outing but looks like Cy Young against us.

    We’re capable of surrendering a four-run lead but, right now, we look unlikely to overcome one.

  153. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    It’s hard to sympathize with athletes whose team you root for.
    If he keeps pitching like this for another month should we still be touchy feely for him?

  154. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Don’t feed the trolls folks, they do it for attention.

  155. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    I will pay attention…I was concentrating on the ball action…But when the CB gets loopy it usually is by either lowering the arm slot or opening up the shoulder a tad too soon, but he wouldn’t be able to throw it for strikes
    ///

    Remember last year he was hurt and played through it.

    If he’s lowering the arm, no wonder his 2-seamer is ineffective. Keep an eye. I wish someone else were pitching the same night the Penguins are playing.

  156. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    “NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    seem Girardi wants to talk to Tex about something .. I wonder what that is gonna be? May be along the lines of, “we are going to bat you 6th?” thing? ”

    =====================

    Think he probably wanted to confirm Tex is really feeling OK and won’t be asking for a day off on the 3rd day back, perhaps even to talk him into taking some more time.

    Failing that, yeah, hopefully to let him know he bats lower in the order till he shows he has his timing back. I would rather he hit 7th myself, but 6th is probably more likely.

  157. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Nova will get it figured out..

  158. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:15 pm
    FYI on Nova. He’s going through a divorce. I was house shopping and met a real estate agent in Westchester county who does a lot of the Yankees and he blabbed about how he found Novas wife a condo recently separate from him. Think there’s kids there. Might explain why.

    ——

    If Nova is so soft that he lets his divorce impact his baseball career than good riddance. What happen to men? all the boys i meet are more like girls these days, more feminine than macho and I prefer macho men!

  159. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Find a better more productive way.

  160. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    You guys are hilarious, lol.

    It must be an injury!

    No, he’s got personal problems!

    NOVA STINKS.

    There are no extenuating circumstances.

  161. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Pruf,

    I think there’s something to it. Novas stuff is there. It’s probably mental.
    ///

    I just hope “Mr. Meanwell” and Co. show some empathy.

  162. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock, just being sarcastic. Because i don’t think betances is being used properly thus far this year , but doesn’t matter. cannot change it. not my job.

    In other news, yankees can only hope to get to the bullpen and keep it at 4..

  163. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Nova’s biggest problem is he is a thrower not a pitcher. He has no idea how to make adjustments and just aims for the plate most of the time. He needs to be more consistent otherwise he will be bounded in and out of the rotation and the majors.

  164. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Nova beats himself before he starts.
    He knew Archer owns us. He can’t beat Boston.
    Nobody is knockin our doors down to get him..

  165. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    this year will be a race to 87 in the AL..East

  166. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Damn, that was unfortunate

  167. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Solarte has a nice and strong arm

  168. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    anyone miss me..just asking

  169. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    One more Vato.

  170. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    I hope Nova gets it figured out, he’s a good kid with a live arm and he has shown that he can be very good. But to stay in the show you need to be consistent and he hasn’t shown that ability to this point.

  171. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:22 pm
    You guys are hilarious, lol.

    It must be an injury!

    No, he’s got personal problems!

    NOVA STINKS.

    There are no extenuating circumstances.

    0———0

    LOL thank you!

  172. roc_Yankee April 19th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Archer owns Kevin Long, not the Yankees. If Kevin Long was teaching true hitting instead of probabilities from a book, we might have so,e gritty AB’s. Way too many called strike 3 on fat fastballs. Story of his tenure. The faces change, same bad results.

  173. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Solarte..in two months nobody will know who he was

  174. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    My team is flirting with blowing their game, so Vato right yourself please and offense score some runs

  175. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Another thing about Nova is just the simple fact that when a batter squares one up against him, the ball carries a ton. That isn’t the case with the good pitchers, but happens to guys who should be better than they are, like Edwin Jackson.

  176. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    I have Joeman…Regardless if we agree or not ;)

  177. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    How so? My connections seems to drop at times and then the screen size when I +/- it doesn’t ever go back to full screen.. but what problems are you referring to?
    =============================

    I have had a number of interruptions with a message about the carrier network being unable to handle the load. Haven’t had any issue the past few years and same ISP so suspect the issue is at their end. Its only happened 1/2 dozen games so maybe I am spoiled

  178. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    I’m not excusing Nova for being bad if family matters are to blame. Just offering a possibility based on what I heard. He should know of all players the team will have a short leash if that’s the case. They’ve sent him down before after all.

  179. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    The fun days to watch yankees baseball are when Tanaka, Kuroda and Pineda are pitching. CC and Nova not so much.

  180. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    OK Girardi . . . . enough?

  181. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Oops…. That was horrible

  182. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Every mistake from Nova is a homerun. Just pathetic…

  183. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Oh My. Looks like an early night for the pen unless Joe is going to have Nova take one for the team

  184. comet April 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Another ugly night! Nova is better than this.

  185. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    He’s just not locating anything at this point.

  186. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    G. Love

    Thanks.

    SON of a B###

  187. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    Nova is taking one for the team tonight after what happened last night. They should send him to AAA. He needs to figure things out and he can’t be trusted right now.

  188. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    If the divorce and lack of seeing his children is bothering the kid, they should give him something like a bereavement pass so he can concentrate on what’s important.
    It’s evident that it is effecting him this year and possibly last.

  189. joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    AJ Nova

  190. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    loopy again

  191. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    Nova may need another trip to the minors like last year…..

  192. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    He has been out of whack all regular season. Even last start when he was being praised for his start, he really wasn’t himself even marginally. Mechanics aren’t there.

  193. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    With Nuno tomorrow, what do you do?

  194. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm
    He has been out of whack all regular season. Even last start when he was being praised for his start, he really wasn’t himself even marginally. Mechanics aren’t there.

    =====================

    This

  195. joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Nuno will do better than Nova… Although that is not saying much.

  196. xcv April 19th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    i see the self-proclaimed best pitcher on the planet is getting hammered again.

  197. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    “Another ugly night! Nova is better than this.”

    Oh, for God’s sake, no he isn’t.

    Did you even watch last season?

    What is this bizarre fascination with Ivan Nova? You’ll get a good start and then two pitiful starts will follow. He’s always been that way.

  198. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    CC’s last outing was pretty darn good, actually. if we are into the what have you done for me lately SSS.

  199. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    I remember telling Shame before the series started that I would GLADLY accept just a split.

    Then of course someone scoffed saying that the Yankees wouldn’t have any trouble with the Rays at all.

    Ooopss that was an EPIC FAIL.

    Playing at the Trop is no picnic for us. Bottom line!!

  200. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    With Nuno tomorrow, what do you do?
    ==============
    send nova down and bring greene back.

  201. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Yanks’ bullpen gave the Rays offense lift-off in game 2…and now they’ve scored 14 runs against us with no reply. I was going to ask whether Phelps or Nuno could do any better than Nova. Now the question is could they do any worse?

  202. joeman April 19th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:27 pm
    I have Joeman…Regardless if we agree or not ;)
    ————————————————————–
    LOL…I’ll bet the goes for 80% of this Blog

  203. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Obviously you weren’t watching last season..He probably had the best second half of any pitcher in the AL

  204. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    It is a bad job tonight. Onto the next start.

  205. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Can Nova even be sent back down? Does he have any options left even?

  206. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    .. AND WHO DIDNT SEE NOVA BLOWING THIS GAME?

    drumroll

    JOE GIRARDI!

  207. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    No surprise with Archer – he was a wonderful pitcher last year – he is doing the same result wise to the Yanks this year – Cubbies will regret they traded him to the Rays. Hopefully Nuno can help salvage the split tomorrow.

  208. NYY fan in NH April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    This is just flat out embarrassing at this point. Time to rethink Nova in the rotation. 4 HR’s is a good sign.

  209. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Phelps sent down to get stretched out for nova’s spot? Or Warren?

  210. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Don’t know if he has options left but the trip to the minors last year turned Nova’s season around.

  211. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Archer looks like a HS kid

  212. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Agreed. Archer is very good.

  213. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    A bloop, now we need a …

  214. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    joecembrale April 19th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    AJ Nova
    ///

    Joe, he does seem to be rolling side to side a little like AJ. He needs to get on top of the ball

    Sori on I see

  215. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    If Nova’s performance is related to anything emotional including a divorce he needs to be DFA’d

    Reminder- “The is the MAJOR LEAGUES! Professional Sports!”

    True Pro’s don’t allow outside influences to interfere with their job. In any job.

    Maybe Nova had lint in his belly button and that’s why????

    Reality check please.

  216. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Solarte can use some of his BABIP magic now

  217. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Phelps sent down to get stretched out for nova’s spot? Or Warren?
    ///

    How about Dellin Betances? They can bring up Burawa to replace him

  218. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Soriano is really heating up, he’s hitting .314 his last ten games. Nice hustle there.

  219. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Burawa, is deserving to get called up. But not for a .079 whip 0.00 era pitcher. Nuno pitches well tomorrow, maybe they skip nova next time.

  220. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    How about Dellin Betances? They can bring up Burawa to replace him

    =====================

    This…But if the crowd is so hard with Nova, imagine how would they be with him…smh

  221. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    I agree, Archer is an immensely promising young pitcher, but let’s not forget he gave up seven runs and 12 hits in five innings against the Os on his last start.

    Clearly, unlike Nova, he has the ability to bounce back from a bad outing.

  222. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    How many months can you keep making excuses for Mccaan’s bat? Perhaps Joe Jerkardi can move the Brian “Russell” McMartin out of the 4th spot? I mean just a thought.. what he had one good game offensively and suddenly he is the next THurman Munson? He’s a NL hitter who can’t cut it in the AL period. Really he was never anything to begin with but people here totally exaggerate his talent.

  223. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    The crowd is hard on anyone that doesn’t pitch well for five minutes. Nothing new.

  224. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    That Solarte is so good !!!!! He makes watching the NYY so puch better!

  225. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Here we go. Lefties should be having some success with Archer. Let’s keep this going.

  226. mick April 19th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    soriano seemed to be lumbering around the bases

  227. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Those swings I am seeing from the Yankees are horrible..They resemble more a golf swing than a baseball swing.

    And Johnson makes sure to make me look bad…Still, I little golf in to it

  228. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    But not for a .079 whip 0.00 era pitcher.
    ///

    Well willwill, I would prefer that over six innings.

    And great as the numbers are, they’re not too impactful if they’re going to occur in garbage time only.

  229. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Johnson won’t hit for a high average but his XBH ability will make up for that

  230. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    That was a good swing

  231. G. Love April 19th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Wow mick. You’re being downright negative about a Yankee in Nova. Careful. You migjt get mistaken for a complainer.

  232. bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    I thought this would be a tough series. Hoped for a split, but after the first game I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe they could actually win a series at the Trop. Now a split would be awesome.

    Nova has pitched like crap all season. Hit hard in every one of his starts. I mean rockets. He should be 0-4. But the killer was the bullpen fail yesterday. Could have lived with this loss if they had won yesterday. And now, because of continued bullpen mis-management, they have to start a command pitcher tomorrow for the split who hasn’t pitched in like 10 days.

    Bad, bad, bad.

  233. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Holy heaven

    yankeefem – Niskanen without the puck is a different story :roll:

  234. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Damn hit on the screws.

  235. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Looks like the key to getting to Archer is get him in the stretch. Made him work that inning so he is unlikely to go past 7 IP now.

  236. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    He’s six degrees of separation from the board sociopath

  237. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    When Tex comes back I would put Solarte at 2nd base and Kelly Johnson at 3rd base. Enough with Roberts already, he should be a bench player not an everyday guy.

  238. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Pruf, QFT

  239. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    We can’t get out of our zone this period can’t end fast enough

  240. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    The shift gives as well as it takes for some hitters

  241. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    If they have a shift, why are they pitching outside?

  242. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    A shift doesn’t help if you don’t hit your spots.

  243. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Pruf, QFT
    //

    But letang gets all the fan angst.Not that he didn’t deserve it for Game 1, probably the worst of his career.

  244. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Hey all. Joining up in a bit. Just finishing lots of holiday “stuff”. I’ve had the game on in the background and have not read one post, so I don’t know the mood of the forum, though I can easily say that this game is pretty lousy so far.

    Baseball is a funny duck, and I’ve long since stopped attempting to predict specific wins on the road because it never seems to work. I’m sure we would have thought that CC’s was a possible loss.

    That said, remember that although you want to take as many as possible, a split on the road is considered acceptable. In fact, quite a few here said they would be satisfied with a split. So if tonight work out – it’s not over yet – there’s always tomorrow.

    Bumps in the road are a part of the game.

    See you in a bit.

  245. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    The Rays were pretty much the consensus pick to win the AL east, they’re a very tough team with a good manager. That having been said, we have to beat them if we’re going to get far this year.

  246. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    If they have a shift, why are they pitching outside?
    ===========

    If a hitter tries to pull a low outside pitch they hit it on the ground into the shift.

    Does not work so well if they go the other way with the pitch

  247. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    There is no depth on that running fastball at all. Just doesn’t have it tonight or is compensating

  248. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Yep he’s hurt take him out don’t listen to him

  249. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    He is hurt…He has been hurt for a while

  250. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Jack Curry ?@JackCurryYES
    Longoria crushes the Yankees the way Edgar Martinez used to crush them. In last 11 games vs NY, Longoria hitting .468 with 5 HRs (Elias).
    ————-
    Actually a really good comparison.

  251. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    It’s the execution of the pitch; not easy to put it where you want to.

  252. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I knew that Nova was probably hurt. He is very injury prone.

  253. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    See he is hurt. Knew it. So obvious

  254. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    luis

    Probaby since last year.

  255. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    the manager

  256. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Longoria is just good and Vato can’t sink the ball tonight

  257. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Did Daley just arrive via police motorcycle escort or something?

  258. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    holistic approach to the Yanks

  259. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    He is hurt…He has been hurt for a while
    ___
    Yep, and yet they have been letting him pitch and pitch and pitch. No way his mechanics are that bad over multiple games. SMH.

  260. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    the lack of ability to notice anything.

  261. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Luis has been saying for awhile that he is hurt.

  262. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    You didn’t see anything. Just like you didn’t when Pineda was hurt. At least Joe saw it this time. Better late than never.

  263. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Luis has been saying for awhile that he is hurt.

    ///

    Yep, he has. He’s a better analyst that Flahts. Luis for color man! :)

  264. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Nova had forearm pain/tight forearm in 2012 which is a precursor to elbow surgery usually. Managed to recover enough to pitch in 2013 but might have had a partially torn ligament that may have fully torn just now

  265. luis April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I noticed it in his previous start. The first I got to watch him. He lowered his arm slot noticeably. That’s the first sign of injury. Any pitching coach with a little experience can tell you that. But the pitcher will never say so. That’s the nature of the beast

  266. bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    So guys, how do you like three starters in your bullpen now?

    I said like a week ago, what do the Yanks do if Pineda hits the DL and misses for starts? Call up Billings?

    This was all super predictable. The smart play was have Warren as your long man. He had experience doing that. And Phelps and Nova should have been in Scranton ready to step in. The Yanks would actually have options now.

    Bad, bad, bad.

  267. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Unknown, yes he has and so have I. This is not Nova. Mechanics or not. He has been playing through it.

  268. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    I wonder why Joe looked so pissed off?

  269. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Yup, Nova is hurt. You never have too much pitching, on average 40% of your SP’ers will go on the DL at least once

  270. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    a new benchmark has been reached – fans arguing over who saw Nova’s injury first

  271. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Nova NEVER tells the Yanks when he is hurt. Yes Girardi and the pitching coach should pick up on these things but Nova has to be more responsible and mature.

  272. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    So guys, how do you like three starters in your bullpen now?

    Since I was also against this I’ll have to just say I agree with you :) Said it when the final rosters were being discussed and Girardi had already said Phelps/Warren would be on the team regardless of role.

    Think its dumb to fill your bullpen with every one of your spot starters.

  273. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Tar, Joe G. was pissed last year when Nova indicated to the media that he was playing through something… But this time maybe it is because he wanted to play through it. I thought Nova wasn’t saying he wanted to continue and Joe didn’t want him to. Right choice this time.

  274. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Luis, Why couldn’t you be wrong just this time? Oh weell, I never expected the rotation not to have injuries here and there. Hope it’s not serious. But I’m af

  275. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    *WAS saying he wanted to continue.

  276. CountryClub April 19th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    @JackCurryYES: Just got another look at YES replay. Nova shook hand and then shook arm, too, bending his elbow a bit. Stay tuned.

  277. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    I love the fake crowd noise. It makes me laugh every time, just like a minor league ballpark.

  278. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Stone, that might be your mentality. But no one cares who saw it first. The concern is that he was hurt in the first place. Stop being so divisive.

  279. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    YF

    Yeah there is something amiss there. Perhaps Nova not being truthful.

    freaking MLB.Tv is so sucky this year I may go back to DirectTV

  280. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Concerning night – Nova goes out – Banuelos only pitches 2/3 inning

  281. CountryClub April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Looks like Nuno will be auditioning tomorrow…..

  282. bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I can really see the failed bullpen construction costing the Yanks like five games this month. It’s already cost two and now the injuries are just starting. Starting pitching depth was the team strength. And they just threw it away.

  283. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Is this healthy?:

    Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    the manager

    Revenge of Stoneburner April 12th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    the manager

    · Revenge of Stoneburner April 12th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    the secret of the manager

    · Revenge of Stoneburner April 13th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    the manager

    · · Revenge of Stoneburner April 14th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    the manager

  284. CountryClub April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Pretty sure Banuelos came out because he exceeded a 1 inning pitch count. Put information out of Tampa is usually sparse. So we won’t know for sure until he does or doesn’t pitch on his next turn.

  285. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Any pitching coach with a little experience can tell you that
    ———–

    So paging Larry R. He couldn’t pick up on it? Or did he and just didn’t care?

  286. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    The time bomb went off again.

  287. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Welcome to the majors Daley. This bullpen is an absolute joke. Cashman should be embarrassed of himself.

  288. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Wow.

    Must be great to have a great young hitter.

    YOUNG hitter.

  289. xcv April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    even the mop up guy sucks

  290. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:00 pm
    Stone, that might be your mentality. But no one cares who saw it first. The concern is that he was hurt in the first place. Stop being so divisive.

    *********

    LMAO

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 8:56 pm
    You didn’t see anything. Just like you didn’t when Pineda was hurt.

    Ahhh another opportunity for one of my favorite clips:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWJp_3pnzXM

  291. michaellord6 April 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    and I’m out.

  292. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    The time bomb went off again.
    ////

    Yep. Good time bombs will do that

  293. bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    I know you did JF. You were right on this. You have a good nose for roster construction, including the 40 man.

    I said something the other day, only half joking. The Yanks don’t like to think too far ahead. Sadly it’s true.

  294. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    I know that it’s only 2 games but this bullpen is a disaster and was built to fall apart. I really wonder what in the world Cashman was thinking. You get what you deserve when you fill up your bullpen with all AAA guys.

  295. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    So we need to still somehow get 11 more outs. Which position player has the best chance?

  296. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    RoS… Why don’t you grow up? Nobody is arguing that… In my case, I am arguing if I can tell. How come the pitching coach doesn’t?… That’s a more worthy subject than your stupid attempt to ridicule some posters you don’t like.

  297. ac1 April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Starting to think I am going to lose my bet with badger fan :/

  298. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Stone, I never look at your clips, so if they are for me, don’t bother.

  299. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    OMG. I took a quick ride and came back to this. Major league ouch.

    :(

  300. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Look we have a player hurt here. Stop the petty BS that goes on here day and night. Root for the team your way, but leave attacking different posters out of it. You are lucky to root for the pinstripes. Respect that and what different people — all Yankee fans — bring to the board. No one cares about your personal stuff. Be more respectful.

  301. Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:01 pm
    Is this healthy?:

    Revenge of Stoneburner April 19th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    the manager

    Revenge of Stoneburner April 12th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    the manager

    · Revenge of Stoneburner April 12th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    the secret of the manager

    · Revenge of Stoneburner April 13th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    the manager

    · · Revenge of Stoneburner April 14th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    the manager

    ********

    Ahhhh – and now comes the time:

    BEHOLD THE SECRET OF THE MANAGER!!!!!!!

    Behold – the time is at hand – the common word choice for both posters – the phrase – the conclusion: they are both allegedly the same poster

    the link: “the manager” – both posters use the same phrase consistently to refer to Girardi. The reason: It dates back to a deep found hatred for Girardi related to Jesus Montero and a conspiracy that Girardi is intimidated by better hitting catchers (errrrr Brian MccANN??)

    Just as was the case with Finkle and Einhorn. And these posters actually have alleged conversations with themselves.

    The evidence:

    Exhibit A

    COMPARE:

    Hans Davenport March 16th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    I like Ichiro as a bench player and getting an occasional start, but he will kill them if he gets more than that.
    That won’t stop the manager from playing him.

    WITH:

    J. Alfred Prufrock October 3rd, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    AJ won a big Game 2 in 2009 after we lost the opener.
    Also won what might have been a big game against Detroit in 2011 ALDS, but that series will be forever haunted by Ayala and the manager’s refusal to use his bench.

  302. Badgerfan April 19th, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Gonna be interesting in Fenway…

  303. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    DRob back Tuesday helps a lot. Moves Kelley, Thornton back an inning and Betances will get more looks. 7,8,9th innings just fine. Nuno auditions for Nova spot tomorrow.

  304. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Ignore.

  305. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Nice catch by Ells

    bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I can really see the failed bullpen construction costing the Yanks like five games this month. It’s already cost two and now the injuries are just starting. Starting pitching depth was the team strength. And they just threw it away.
    =================

    The team rolled the dice in a lot of areas due to their arbitrary budget restrictions. Bullpen, 1B depth, SS depth, 2B, 3B. Usually Not going to get the roll you want 5 times. They will try to patch things as the need arises.

  306. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Keep hangin’ yourself.

    The rest of us will watch the game.

  307. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    “The Rays were pretty much the consensus pick to win the AL east, they’re a very tough team with a good manager. That having been said, we have to beat them if we’re going to get far this year.”

    Crazy though because all I’ve been reading is about how they are going to tank because their SP has been mortally wounded.

  308. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Exiled,

    Trust me… I want to be wrong on this… My concern is that the coaching staff appears to be unable to pick injuries from pitchers..Either by mechanical alterations ( like Nova’s ) or by body language. A pitcher always wants the ball, no matter what… He won’t ever say he is hurt, that’s the normal makeup of a pitcher… That’s why the have a coaching staff for

  309. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    My DVR didn’t record tonight’s game for some reason…..I was mad until I turned it on and now I’m glad……what happened?

  310. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    STone

    HAHAHA You are delusional, wow that’s all you got. HAHAHAHAHAHA

    You wasted all your time on that!!! PATHETIC

  311. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    I see Badgerfan is here. I just want to mention perhaps the obvious. This person ONLY shows up if the Yanks get into trouble. So it is so obvious a Sux troll it isn’t funny.

    But I see no need to respond to any of the drivel, so I won’t.

  312. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    OMG. I took a quick ride and came back to this. Major league ouch.

    :(

    ============

    Games like these make me wish I was a masochist

  313. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Nova’s hurt. He wanted to pitch threw it, but Joe G. finally pulled him. He couldn’t locate anything and gave up 4 bombs. He’s been hurt probably all regular season.

  314. bigdan22 April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    If Nova is laid up awhile, the Yanks need to gett Warren stretched out ASAP. He’s got the best starter stuff right now. I love my boy Nuno (for those keeping track, I have four boys now), but Warren has really grown the last year. Get his butt out of the bullpen ASAP!

    Lets see how my boy does tomorrow. Unfortunately, I have a feeling for someone like Nuno to be effective, he needs to start regularly. But I could be wrong. I hope I am.

  315. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    “My DVR didn’t record tonight’s game for some reason…..I was mad until I turned it on and now I’m glad……what happened?”

    It appears that the offense that people said the Rays didn’t have somehow showed up for the second night in a row…

  316. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Crazy though because all I’ve been reading is about how they are going to tank because their SP has been mortally wounded.

    A similar theory to the one that they can’t hit (please ignore the 21 runs they have scored in their last 10 innings)!!!

  317. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    What happened?

    Nova is hurt, couldn’t sink the ball, lost his feel for his sharp curve after the first inning, got hammered.

    They came to get him. He’s been hurt since last season, as per luis’s protests for the last year and a half.

    We’re down a starter, and reinforcements – all currently starring in your bullpen.

  318. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    bigdan – I too am a big fan of Nuno.

    I’m thinking that the reason Girardi has given so many innings to Phelps and Warren (as opposed to others) is perhaps his way of keeping them as stretched out as possible in case he needs them for long innings or relief starts. Just a thought.

    ***********

    WHERE WAS THAT PITCH???????????????

  319. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Is nova really hurt? What’s hurting him?

  320. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Think elbow, but I hope not.

  321. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    How has the pitch calling been so far, meaning the ump behind the plate?

  322. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Is nova really hurt? What’s hurting him?

    Virtually every Major League hitter right now. :)

  323. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Phelps & warren haven’t been pitching extended outings though, so they aren’t really stretched out. You need a guy who can throw a lot of pitches effectively in 1 day, not throw a smaller amount of pitches spread over multiple days.

  324. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:14 pm
    Think elbow, but I hope not.

    ========================

    The way he moved the arm points out to the elbow..A ligament most likely

  325. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Is nova really hurt? What’s hurting him?”

    No clue, but Joe wasn’t happy when he came to take him out.

    Which leads me to believe there is some kind of back story to this whole thing. Also G .Love has some inside info that Nova has recently been separated from his wife and kids.

  326. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    luis, let us hope and pray not.

  327. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    uis April 19th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Trust me… I want to be wrong on this… My concern is that the coaching staff appears to be unable to pick injuries from pitchers..Either by mechanical alterations ( like Nova’s ) or by body language. A pitcher always wants the ball, no matter what… He won’t ever say he is hurt, that’s the normal makeup of a pitcher… That’s why the have a coaching staff for
    ========================

    I think the coaching staff recognizes that almost every pitcher is less than 100%. if you MRI every pitcher 50% of them will have abnormal results. Knowing when a pitcher should be shut down to avoid serious injury is the key.

    Drop in velocity and loss of command is usually a key indicator. We saw some of that last night from Cabral who I am sure is injured, and Pineda in 2012. Nova still had his velocity and while his command was off a bit, it was not to the extent you would skip his start or DL him. CC is probably not healthy either.

    Novas performance certainly warrants an MRI, especially with that shaking of his arm in some kind of discomfort.

  328. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:11 pm
    ///

    Hey the guy is a troll. Ignore him. He and the other guy are trying to provoke people they don’t like. He betrays himself all by himself.

    I’d much rather hear you talk baseball.

  329. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    “Phelps & warren haven’t been pitching extended outings though, so they aren’t really stretched out. You need a guy who can throw a lot of pitches effectively in 1 day, not throw a smaller amount of pitches spread over multiple days.”

    Based on this, who in hell was supposed to be the emergency starter?

  330. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    So we are just speculating that he’s hurt ?

  331. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Pete,

    He lowered his arm slot noticeably…Not tonight, but in previous outings…That’s a mayor tell for another pitcher…Rothchild should have picked this a long time ago…

  332. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Blake – What happened is just what I thought would. We would struggle at the Trop. Really no SUPRISE.

    I stand by this:

    “UnKnown April 16th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
    If we wrap this up I will settle for a split at the Trop”

  333. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    jerkface, is it possible that they’ve been getting stretched out as part of their side work?

  334. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    So we are just speculating that he’s hurt ?”

    Girardi and the Trainer came out. Plus they gave Daley all the time he needed. So he was removed because of an injury

  335. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    A split at the Trop is always fine…..I hate that place. They should have won last night though…..

  336. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    Deja vu: 2011 Game 5 ALDS when Nova gave up those bombs. Bad memory.

  337. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    He’s definitely hurt, but he argued to stay in.

  338. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    “Girardi and the Trainer came out. Plus they gave Daley all the time he needed. So he was removed because of an injury”

    Ok…hope it’s not the elbow. Of course everyone needs TJS this year and Nova had the forearm thing last year which is often a precursor

  339. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Based on this, who in hell was supposed to be the emergency starter?

    Someone from AAA? Thats why I disagreed with their roster construction. They put their best choices to emergency start in the bullpen, which removes their ability to emergency start.

    So instead of calling someone up with the idea that they can probably go 5-6 innings, you have a guy who can MAYBE go 4 innings and then you still have to burn a bunch of pitchers to cover the rest of the game. Its foolish, but the Yankees were very enamored with their ‘best 25 go north’ thing.

    Its one thing to put 1 of your spot starters in the pen as a long reliever, but they put all of them in the pen! Then used them as 1 inning relievers!

  340. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    jerkface, is it possible that they’ve been getting stretched out as part of their side work?

    Maybe Nuno has? But Phelps certainly hasn’t because he has to be available for Girardi to put into our highest leverage situations.

  341. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    It will be interesting to see who replaces Nova in the rotation. Phelps and Warren aren’t stretched out and they don’t really have anything in AAA. Maybe it will be nut job Aceves.

  342. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    blake – is it possible they’re picking up signs? Rays are #24 in the majors in BA and #26 in the majors in runs scored!

  343. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Trout was 0-4 with 4 Ks today….won’t see that often

  344. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Nuno threw 67 pitches in his last outing so he can probably go ~80 pitches. Unfortunately that came 12 days ago. He has basically pitched vs actual batters 3 times in the last month, thats crazy. We want to throw him against our divisional rival when he hasn’t even pitched vs anyone in 12 days. LOL.

  345. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Its one thing to put 1 of your spot starters in the pen as a long reliever, but they put all of them in the pen! Then used them as 1 inning relievers!”

    Yeah it was ridiculous. But some will tell us that Joe, Cash and Roth have all the experience in the world, are infallible and us mere mortals are fools to question their all mighty decision making.

  346. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Matt Daley, not the answer in the pen. I don’t like side armers like Daley who have mid 80s fastballs. He will only get guys out with deception.

  347. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue says:
    April 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm
    blake – is it possible they’re picking up signs? Rays are #24 in the majors in BA and #26 in the majors in runs scored!

    I didn’t see him pitch but if Nova doesn’t have his sinker he gets hammered…..it’s basically always like that. When he’s sinking the ball he’s pretty good….when he loses his sinker he’s one of the worst pitchers in the league and literally gives up tickets all over the place

  348. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    Yanks should bring Greene back and get rid of Daley. He isn’t a major league pitcher.

  349. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    Oh good the Yankees are down by 10, soon to be more, so the game is safe from Dellin Betances 0 ERA

  350. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    jerkface – I couldn’t agree more about the starters in the pen. What an absolute waste for them (Warren and Phelps)! I’d rather see them in AAA, getting their work in than getting stifled as short relief. It’s the same thing they did with Hughes and the same thing they did with Joba. And the same thing they did to Warren last year, only they basically let him die on the vine.

    I don’t understand it at all.

  351. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    If Nova is out I bet they start Phelps in his place next outing and let him go 4 or 5 and then piece together the rest of the game…..then let phelps go longer the next time through. It’s not ideal but I think it’s what they’ll do

  352. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Daley is obviously not the solution for the BP.

    Nuno is up as the 6th starter, so I imagine he gets Novas next start if needed assuming all goes well tomorrow.

    Plenty of time to stretch someone else out.

  353. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    I can’t even watch the game because I have to keep re-loading MLB.TV. Very annoying….. even if we are losing.

  354. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Jerkface says:
    April 19, 2014 at 9:29 pm
    Oh good the Yankees are down by 10, soon to be more, so the game is safe from Dellin Betances 0 ERA

    He’s saving him for the 8th

  355. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Put Cabral in!

  356. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    “But some will tell us that Joe, Cash and Roth have all the experience in the world, are infallible and us mere mortals are fools to question their all mighty decision making.”

    Well, that part’s true.

    :D

  357. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    Lol……

  358. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    This is painful.

  359. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    I wish MLB had 10 run rule sometimes

  360. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    The guy that would have the best chance to win every five days is the one they don’t even trust for one inning.

    Warren is exposed after a few innings. If it’s between him and Phelps, then Phelps it must be.

  361. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Bench Sori for not hustling to make that play :twisted:

  362. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Its only the 6th. Jeez. These kind of games are the worst.

  363. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    delin mopup time

  364. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Losing two in a row to the Rays is no big deal but this is a major train wreck. I can’t bring myself to look away. But I want to.

  365. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    At least we have the off day on Monday. Aceves pitched 5 IP 79 pitches yesterday for SWB.

  366. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Alphonso Abreu Soriano

  367. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    He’s seriously pitching Betances

  368. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Trish

    Here is that great infallible decision making process at work again. :D

  369. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Can’t wait til it’s a close game tomorrow and Betances is unavailable

  370. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Keep on wasting Dellin.

  371. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    I am glad that Betances is being wasted in this spot tonight. Yesterday is when he was needed but of course he wasn’t available because of the odd way that Girardi uses him.

  372. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    “Losing two in a row to the Rays is no big deal but this is a major train wreck. I can’t bring myself to look away. But I want to.”

    I feel you.

    :(

  373. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Bye, Wil.

  374. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Does Jeter want to pitch a few innings before he walks off into the sunset. :grin:

    Golden opportunity here.

  375. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Too electric for this team, apparently

  376. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    I am not currently watching… In a 10-1 game are they actually using Betances?

  377. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    We have at least one RP’er who can get guys out, even if he gives up a couple of walks now and then

  378. longtimefan April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    If Cabrel and Daily are the best we have to offer from AAA, we have real problems.

  379. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    With news of Aceves outing the other day I was thinking about him and Phelps. A lot of people wanted Phelps in the pen, and there was always talk of how he can be a Aceves or Ramiro Mendoza type. However, the way Girardi uses him is the opposite of that. How was Aceves used in 09? HE came in when the Yankees were losing but the game was still close to pitch multiple innings and give time for the offense to claw back into it. How is Phelps used? As a fireman or in games the Yankees are leading.

    I wouldn’t have as much a problem with Phelps if he was used like Aceves because at least that would make sense.

    Betances is the last guy out of the pen, thats absurd. Its absurd. What guy with this stuff is the last guy out of anyones pen even as a rookie. I’ve never seen someone with such dominant relief stuff be relegated to mop up.

  380. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Ugh. Not a 1B.

  381. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    IF defense Take III

  382. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    “He’s seriously pitching Betances”

    His achilles heel is youngsters. He sucks at when and how much to play them.

  383. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    That’s where Tex is missed ….

  384. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    I have seen enough of Johnson at 1st base already. Another example of the roster killing this team.

  385. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    Infield giveth and infield taketh away, right pete2?

  386. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    On the same play, that is

  387. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    The Yankees really should have won yesterday, its going to suck losing 3/4

  388. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Sorry but this team needs Tex. If for his defense alone.

    That is if infield defense matters? :wink:

  389. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm
    I am not currently watching… In a 10-1 game are they actually using Betances?
    ___
    Rhetorical question, I assume.

  390. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Aceves had a 3.54 ERA in 09, which is much higher than you want from an middle reliever, but he pitched so many innings that it had value. Phelps ERA is much higher right now and he doesn’t pitch as many innings. Doesn’t make any sense.

  391. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Same pitch

  392. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    I think Deal should just give up a 3run jack to make Joe feel better about bringing him into a losing cause

  393. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    When the STL Cards put a rookie with electric stuff in their pen he is the closer, setup guy, or elite middle relief fireman. He isn’t the mop up guy.

  394. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm
    luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:37 pm
    I am not currently watching… In a 10-1 game are they actually using Betances?
    ___
    Rhetorical question, I assume.

    ===================

    I’ll say cynical… Forgot the emoticon ;)

  395. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    What is to stop Girardi from saying “ok we forfeit this game, see ya later” and pull his team off the field?

  396. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Strike 5

  397. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Too electric for this team, apparently
    ———-
    Yup. You can lead a horse to water thing.

    What the heck how did the Blue Jackets tie it up. Oh boy…

  398. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    22 runs over the last 9 innings. Ouch!

  399. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    another night, another squeezing by the ump

  400. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Dellin must be reliving his Trenton days with that disaster infield

  401. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    It’s really amazing how many balls this infield can’t get to or just don’t field. It seems like 2-3 balls a game. Along with the bullpen the infield defense is a big problem.

  402. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    UnKnown – my Penguins can’t handle prosperity.

  403. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    F. the ERA, Aceves was brilliant in 2009. Especially at Yankee Stadium.

  404. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    I’m McCann I just over power this guy with FB’s

  405. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    It’s really amazing how many balls this infield can’t get to or just don’t field. It seems like 2-3 balls a game. Along with the bullpen the infield defense is a big problem

    Bad fielding may not be the direct cause for any given loss but it exacerbates any other problem. Starter not sharp? Well now he has to get extra outs. Bullpen not doing too well? Make sure that guy they just got out is actually safe on an error or missed chance. It turns solo shots into HRs with men on and outs with men on into run scoring hits.

  406. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Nova hurt and Pens in OT. Oh what a night.

  407. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    All of a sudden the strike zone gets smaller. These umps stink…

  408. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Ok, here is my suggestion to the Yankees ownership… Fire Rothschild, bring in Aldred from triple A… Also, force Girardi to actually look at his binder…Betances is NOT the mop up guy

  409. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Please stop squeezing him in a 13-1 game …..good lord

  410. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Aceves had a 3.54 ERA in 09, which is much higher than you want from an middle reliever, but he pitched so many innings that it had value.
    —————————-

    That was about 0.7 runs below league average in 2009 (ERA’s are lower today). I don’t have the stats but I suspect most middle relievers are much worse than that. Late inning relievers tend to have lower ERA’s since often they pitch 1 inning and don’t always face the bets hitters. When you pitch 3 IP you face the heart of the order at least once.

  411. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Joe is pissed

  412. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    This is why Betances remains on mop-up duty.

  413. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Dellin must be reliving his Trenton days with that disaster infield
    ___
    Ugh, those IF’s were totally inept.

  414. mick April 19th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    another head case on the mound…

  415. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    F. the ERA, Aceves was brilliant in 2009. Especially at Yankee Stadium.

    I liked Aceves a lot in 09, with what he brought to the team, my point is he wasn’t a shut down lights out reliever. Its not like he went out and never gave up any runs. He wasn’t used as a setup guy. Or a fire man.

    He kept the Yankees in games they were losing. Or covering the 5th-6th inning of games where the starter was struggling and the Yankees were winning.

  416. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    “… Fire Rothschild”
    ———–
    One of the most respected pitching coaches in all of baseball. Ludicrous.

  417. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Jeez, not one guy out there came up to Dellin’s shoulder!!! The entire team.

  418. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Patrick says:
    April 19, 2014 at 9:45 pm
    This is why Betances remains on mop-up duty.

    Eh….he threw 5 strikes to one guy.

  419. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Oh great another injury?!

  420. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Pat M was banned?

  421. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    The strike zone is questionable.

    Wow threw a change, probably the first one live in @two years.

  422. mick April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    haven’t seen Pat M in over a month…

  423. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Pat M was banned? What?

  424. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    What is to stop Girardi from saying “ok we forfeit this game, see ya later” and pull his team off the field?
    ===================

    A pretty hefty fine and perhaps a suspension>

  425. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Johnson is hurt? Hurt or hurt feelings?

  426. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Eh….he threw 5 strikes to one guy.

    It’s a 13-1 game and he walked a run in. The zone is the zone tonight, the umpire has been bad but both teams deal with it. Betances job is literally to throw all strikes and get as many outs in as few pitches as possible.

  427. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Atta boy. Nasty.

  428. blake April 19th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    I’m surprised he called that a strike…..stupid umpire

  429. mick April 19th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Why was Pat M banned?

  430. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Betances walked 2, but first of all he should of been out of the inning, and on the first walk he struck the guy out but the ump squeezed him, on the 2nd walk, he also didn’t get a borderline call that was up. He hasn’t been spectacular these last 2 games, but he still hasn’t given up a hit or any runs.

  431. ac1 April 19th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    We may see marlins joe girardi soon.
    He looks real pissed off…

  432. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm
    Pat M was banned?
    __
    I doubt it. People keep making things up on here. This place is just a zoo.

  433. longtimefan April 19th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    Pitching all of a sudden a cause for concern, this is bad considering the Rays had the 2nd lowest offense in baseball till the Yankees came to town.

  434. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    That must be BS and Mr Ed must be another incarnation from our resident…

  435. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    It’s a 13-1 game and he walked a run in. The zone is the zone tonight, the umpire has been bad but both teams deal with it. Betances job is literally to throw all strikes and get as many outs in as few pitches as possible.

    This is unrealistic. If the expectation on Betances is ‘throw lots of strikes and don’t walk anyone’ then DFA him. You can get a lot of value out of him by pitching him in clean innings with room to move.

    Go back to young David Robertson and you have a similar pitching comp. Plus you know he had to get the extra out thanks to the infield.

  436. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Aceves kept us in games, close enough to win. I was at all the 2009 home games; he was brilliant at YS3 that season.

  437. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    This is why Betances remains on mop-up duty.
    ////

    That was not a demonstration of lack of control, c’mon.

    I think that’s a little bit of confirmation bias, right there. Some of those hitters smartly held up on pitches that were borderline, some weren’t technically strikes but they were around the plate.

  438. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    I much preferred the Rays when they sucked.

  439. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    split squad game time

  440. mick April 19th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    just want to let you all know that pat m. was banned.

    he was banned because of prufrock.
    ==========================
    details?

  441. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    All the backups are in for the Yankees now. Oh wait they are the starters.

  442. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    “I doubt it. People keep making things up on here. This place is just a zoo”

    =============================

    Pretty much

  443. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    luis, it is both funny and sad.

  444. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Apparently, getting banned here means nothing more than having to change your screen name. So why does this matter again?

  445. jpmatrixfan88 April 19th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Uh, JF, a 3.54 ERA is well above average let alone bad for a middle reliever. Maybe for an elite closer ir set up man it isnt good. But for a MR…no.

  446. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:47 pm
    Pat M was banned?
    __
    I doubt it. People keep making things up on here. This place is just a zoo.
    ////

    How would C R 9 know that Pat M was banned? The guy is a sociopath.

    Maybe Pat M has a life?? Imagine. People disappear and then pop up on here. I’m not even going to dignify the comment.

  447. RYUKINGDOM April 19th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Anyone want a list of Japanese pitchers? The two for the Red Sox got the Orioles with not even a sweat.

  448. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    This is unrealistic. If the expectation on Betances is ‘throw lots of strikes and don’t walk anyone’ then DFA him. You can get a lot of value out of him by pitching him in clean innings with room to move.

    Go back to young David Robertson and you have a similar pitching comp. Plus you know he had to get the extra out thanks to the infield.

    It’s not unrealistic to expect a pitcher to not walk in runs in a 10 run game. A young David Robertson never walked as many batters as Betances does. Betances is just too risky in a high leverage situation, he’s just as likely to issue a walk as he is to get a strikeout.

    Obviously I don’t expect him to morph into a control pitcher just because its a 10 run game, but he has to have some idea where the ball is going. Until he does, its just way too risky to use him in anything other than mop-up duty.

  449. luis April 19th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Ok, back in front of the tv.

    YF,

    The amount of aggravating comments toward other posters without provocation has skyrocketed

  450. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    You guys are misunderstanding my point about Aceves. He was good. He was used smartly. Phelps is not being used like Aceves was used. Thats my point.

    A 3.50 ERA is fine. It isn’t a 1 ERA though, like what Mo and Robertson can put up. Those guys you don’t expect to give up runs. Aceves might give up a run or two but he’d pitch so much it wouldn’t really matter. That is my point. He wasn’t completely shut down, but the way he was deployed was so good that he contributed to many, many wins.

    Phelps meanwhile, with a worse ERA and worse stats is being deployed into close games with men on and stuff like that. Basically the opposite of how Aceves was used.

  451. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    luis,

    We all just need to ignore these sad little people, who crave any kind of attention, doesn’t matter if it’s negative.

  452. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    There were 50 relievers who had a less than 3 ERA in 09, so I mean thats my point. Aceves wasn’t in the upper echelon of relievers, but the way he was used got the max value out. He was arguably a starter but the Yankees managed to leverage his starter abilities into a niche role.

  453. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    “It’s not unrealistic to expect a pitcher to not walk in runs in a 10 run game”

    He didn’t put all those guys on base though…..error behind him or he gives up 0 again

  454. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Jerkface is correct about Phelps/Aceves ..

    Phelps would be a good long man but his stuff doesn’t play up in the pen AT ALL. Aceves was useful because the sheer volume of innings he could get through out of the pen

  455. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    JF is spot on… High leverage situations pitchers have to have swing and miss stuff…Phelps doesn’t

  456. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    It’s not unrealistic to expect a pitcher to not walk in runs in a 10 run game. A young David Robertson never walked as many batters as Betances does. Betances is just too risky in a high leverage situation, he’s just as likely to issue a walk as he is to get a strikeout.

    Dude, robertson had BB rates of more than 4.5 per 9 every year for the first 4 years of his major league career. And actually Betances is 3 times as likely to strike a guy out as he is to walk someone.

  457. pat April 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I know this is a Yankee blog but….. I’ve known CJ Riefenhauser’s parents for over 40 years and I’m so happy for them and him.

  458. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    The last two games have been inexplicably embarrassing; after playing so well. Girardi is rightfully a very unhappy camper. I suggest the media tread lightly in the post-game presser.

  459. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    Uh… Betances knows where the ball is going, he had ONE game where he was totally lost, the rest he’s been around the plate, either squeezed or walked guys. That’s just who he is. When he becomes more consistent with both reps and time. he’ll be better

  460. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    Betances is gonna walk some guys…..but he’s also the hardest guy to hit they have right now. Lets see how he does in this 2nd inning

  461. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    He didn’t put all those guys on base though…..error behind him or he gives up 0 again

    Yeah obviously he inherited runners, had an error and a weird strikezone. But still, in that situation you have to throw strikes. You saw Girardi, he was freaking livid.

  462. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    squeezed again.. that was a strike

  463. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    Look at pitch fx its a strike

  464. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Good to see Valverde is still a clown.

  465. ac1 April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Can’t believe betances is the one being sacrificed

  466. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    our offense is awesome

  467. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Won’t happen. Wally is already scheming which question to ask to make Girardi’s head pop off.

    Wally is a major snake.

  468. garyjones April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    pat m was banned.

    ask chad jennings.

  469. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Yeah obviously he inherited runners, had an error and a weird strikezone. But still, in that situation you have to throw strikes. You saw Girardi, he was freaking livid.”

    I think he’s just pissed at Cabral still

  470. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    JF, I get your point about Phelps. And agree. Sorry watching three different games. I just wanted to emphasize how brilliant Aceves was for us in 2009.

  471. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    They could actually develop a really nasty late inning reliever, if they stick with Betances and give him regular work. Development, hard for the Yankees I know.

    But if they could pitch David Robertson regularly when he walked 5 per 9 and had a 5 ERA in his first major league season they can pitch Betances.

  472. mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    I can see Betances sent down after mop up tonight.

  473. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    “It’s not unrealistic to expect a pitcher to not walk in runs in a 10 run game. A young David Robertson never walked as many batters as Betances does. Betances is just too risky in a high leverage situation, he’s just as likely to issue a walk as he is to get a strikeout.”
    ===============

    You make a good case for him starting innings clean. However, I would much rather give up a BB than a hit with the bases loaded. Girardi seems more comfortable with bullpen guys who give up hits rather than walks, but walks are less damaging especially if you get a bunch of K’s

  474. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Good slider

  475. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    The Mariners suck….who could have guessed

  476. NYY fan in NH April 19th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Betances throwing 28 pitches to get two outs… This night is just a disaster all around. No hitting. Pitching will set this team back a few days with all the pitchers used. This can’t end soon enough

  477. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    “Diagnostic tests on elbow” . . . yuck.

  478. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    With the forearm deal last year if Nova is having elbow pain then don’t be surprised if TJS is in his future

  479. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Dude, robertson had BB rates of more than 4.5 per 9 every year for the first 4 years of his major league career. And actually Betances is 3 times as likely to strike a guy out as he is to walk someone.

    I know Robertson’s walk rates, I looked them up before I made my post. Betances is walking more men than Robertson did. Small sample, but Joe sees that and he looks at Betances’ history. He had a much higher walk rate in the minors than Robertson did.

  480. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    39 pitches. Too many

  481. Captain Clutch April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Good now when Betances will be needed in a close game he won’t be available. I can’t believe that he is the one pitching in mop up duty.

  482. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    This place is just a sh*t show tonight. I think the game still might have it beat though.

  483. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    You make a good case for him starting innings clean. However, I would much rather give up a BB than a hit with the bases loaded. Girardi seems more comfortable with bullpen guys who give up hits rather than walks, but walks are less damaging especially if you get a bunch of K’s

    Managers probably have the fantasy of whatever hit given up being caught by better defense or if it was just a little closer etc. A walk is indefensible but Betances has seriously only given up like 1 hit so far and is striking out 17 per 9 so I don’t know why anyone would have a hang up on his walks.

    Walking lots of guys hurts when you also give up hits and home runs. When you’re David Robertson esque and have the ability to strike out the side or have em pound it into the dirt lifelessly you should be pitching.

  484. Deal With It April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    So what the Yankees laid an early ‘Easter Egg’ tonight

    Tomorrow is another day with another game

  485. ac1 April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Nova another elbow issue

  486. pat April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Nova with “Right elbow soreness, scheduled to undergo further diagnostic tests.”

  487. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Even if the know what’s coming the batters can’t square him up…That’s how good he is… Mop up guy my As….

  488. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Betances’ minor league walk rates once converted are minimal. You can’t use MILB SP numbers in your %.

  489. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:04 pm
    I can see Betances sent down after mop up tonight.

    I’d like to see him sent down to be stretched out.

  490. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    I like Solarte better at 2B…..he’s shaky at 3B. He’s made a lot of plays but it always seems like he is just barely holding it together over there to me.

  491. mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Good now when Betances will be needed in a close game he won’t be available.
    ==============
    He’ll be available in AAA soon.
    Nova will disappear.
    Hope for good things from Nuno, he could be here to stay.

  492. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    The Betances obsession is funny at this point. Reminds me of the Montero era.

  493. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    My god, a scoreless inning with a reliever who has an ERA of 0.00 DFA the bum.

  494. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    Paging Dr. Andrews I am afraid.

  495. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm
    This place is just a sh*t show tonight. I think the game still might have it beat though.
    ++++

    Par for the course. It’s like 4 people who cause all the problems.

  496. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    ac1 April 19th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Can’t believe betances is the one being sacrificed
    ///

    Can’t you?

  497. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Go get Cliff Lee!!

  498. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Betances is getting ground balls at a better than 50% rate, hardly gives up any line drives, only walks guys 17% of the time but strikes them out 50% of the time. He walks MARGINALLY MORE guys than David Robertson did while being 50% better at getting groundballs and strike outs.

  499. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Oops, did I say, 4. I meant 5.

  500. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    “Jerkface is correct about Phelps/Aceves ..”

    Which makes your observations on Betances kind of odd. The guy has swing and miss and stuff. He could load the basses ( although I think his wildness is overblown) and strike out the side…kind of like a young D Rob.

    This is the slash line against Betances this year

    .053 .217 .053 .270

  501. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Congrats, pat!!!

  502. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    I’d like to see him sent down to be stretched out.

    ===================

    I like the way you think ;)

  503. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    UnKnown says:
    April 19, 2014 at 10:08 pm
    Paging Dr. Andrews I am afraid.

    Sadly I won’t be surprised

  504. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    I would like the Yankees to develop Betances into a late innings reliever. But right now he’s too risky in high leverage spots. Like what situations would you prefer he pitch in? A lot of spots he would come in to would be with men on base.

    He’s pitched only like 12 innings in the majors, maybe he needs some more time before throwing him into the 8th inning in a tight game.

  505. willwill April 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Nova is definitely TJS, Sounds like Phelps is back in the rotation

  506. Locke April 19th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    I wasn’t able to watch tonight, now I really don’t want to turn it on. Poor Yanks, tomorrow is another game.

  507. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 19th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    I’m not quite getting how our offense has gone totally cold, although I know it happens.

  508. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Unknown, of course those 5 could actually be only 3, in actuality.

  509. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Phelps & Warren are both walking nearly as many guys as Betances.

  510. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Phelps I think is suited much more for starting than reliving.

  511. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    “I would like the Yankees to develop Betances into a late innings reliever?”

    Compared to Adam Warren and Phelps? It’s not like they have Rivera and Robertson and Soriano out there…..

  512. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    YF,

    Whatever the number…They are certainly annoying

  513. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    I don’t need Betances put into the 8th inning right away, I understand Girardi going with someone else, but he isn’t even being used in the 7th inning of close games or tied games or whatever. He isn’t pitching regularly, which will help him develop, and when he does get used its on deep rest in blow outs or when literally everyone else is unavailable. Do they want to develop a mop up guy or do they want to develop a real pitcher?

  514. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    Hey folks, I just emailed Chad to ask if Pat M has been banned.

    I highly doubt it, but just want to make sure.

  515. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Phelps & Warren are both walking nearly as many guys as Betances.

    Yeah but both have a track record of walking about 3.5 per nine. Whereas Betances is more like 5

  516. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Damn should have pitched Ichiro.

  517. Doreen April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Pat M was banned. He had been taking a blog-cation on his own, but he tried to respond to a question by Michelle B about the car the other night, an couldn’t post. When he wrote Chad to find out why he couldn’t post, he was too he’d been banned.

  518. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    So, with Phelps the number 6 guy, does Joe just move him into the rotation? That’s his usual MO. Or, does whatever Nuno does tomorrow mean anything?

  519. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Dean Anna to the mound!!!

  520. UnKnown April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    You guys better make this PP count.

  521. bruceb April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Grandy hearing it from Mets fans…off to a dreadful start (sorry, but I couldn’t keep watching the Tropicana Massacre).

  522. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Doreen, banned for what?

  523. mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    If there is a team out there that wants to develop Betances, say TB for instance, and there must be at least one that thinks he’s worth it, then why hasn’t he been traded yet???

  524. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:13 pm
    Hey folks, I just emailed Chad to ask if Pat M has been banned.

    I highly doubt it, but just want to make sure.

    ======================

    No need..It must be BS…OTOH, Chad’s e-mail might have been hacked…This might just be a ploy to get inofrmation..Be careful

  525. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    This is awesome

  526. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Where is the radar gun

  527. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    I would like the Yankees to develop Betances into a late innings reliever. But right now he’s too risky in high leverage spots. Like what situations would you prefer he pitch in? A lot of spots he would come in to would be with men on base.

    He’s pitched only like 12 innings in the majors, maybe he needs some more time before throwing him into the 8th inning in a tight game.
    ========================

    Nothing stopping Girardi from using him in close games starting the inning clean.

    It’s ok to take the go slow approach with him if your late inning guys are getting the job done. So far they have for the most part with the exception of a couple of games, but that may be more luck than anything. When the luck runs out its Betances time.

    Dean Anna might be the solution though

  528. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Yeah but both have a track record of walking about 3.5 per nine. Whereas Betances is more like 5

    yea so you wanna worry about 1.5 walks per 9 when you’re also getting 8-5 more K/9 and much less Hits and Hrs???????? I don’t get it!

    You end up getting a self fulfilling prophecy where you are too scared to pitch Betances in closer games so you only use him in blow outs and then when he doesn’t get regular work and comes into a game and walks a guy you figure he is just showing you what you already knew.

    With that stuff, they need to be eying him as a future big bullpen piece, not as an experimental end of the 40 man guy.

  529. mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Is this Anna’s going away present?
    I thought he was the BUC.
    Why isn’t Ichiro in there???

  530. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Joe must have listened to me last night when I said throw a position player…..

  531. exiledintampa April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    There goes Anna’s WHIP.

  532. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Girardi going to love Anna in the pen. he won’t walk anyone

  533. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    I’ve seen Anna throw from SS….I know he can throw harder than that

  534. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Doreen April 19th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Pat M was banned. He had been taking a blog-cation on his own, but he tried to respond to a question by Michelle B about the car the other night, an couldn’t post. When he wrote Chad to find out why he couldn’t post, he was too he’d been banned.
    ///

    What for?

    And why would C R 9 know about it? Does Pat M email with this guy??

  535. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Do they want to develop a mop up guy or do they want to develop a real pitcher?

    I just think its too early to expect Betances to be a big part of the bullpen. The other guys ahead of him have a longer track record. And given Betances’ wildness I can see why Girardi is hesitant to put him in important situations.

  536. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Really should have pitched Ichiro.

  537. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Is he throwing slow on purpose? I can get off the couch and break 70 right now

  538. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    I think I have a better arm than Anna

  539. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Doreen,

    I am really beginning to connect the dots, here.

  540. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Let them hit it and they might hit it to somebody

  541. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    In fairness to Anna he was probably warned not to overthrow to avoid injuring himself

  542. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    I’ve seen Anna throw from SS….I know he can throw harder than that

    I’m pretty sure Girardi told him to literally just throw BP.

  543. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    I think he’s trying to slow them to death

  544. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    55mph. Lmao

  545. comet April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    It is a sad day when Pat M is banned. Hopefully Chad will reconsider.

    This game is just a throw away. Apparently Nova was hurt before the start. Cudo’s to Luis and other who spotted it.

  546. mick April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    these guys cant hit slow stuff..goes to show you.

  547. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    will myers, manny machado, bryce harper, mike trout, etc… if we had George the boss still i guarantee wed have had at least 1 of them! he had a way of prying players from teams even if they didnt wanna trade them! No we have a team that depends on a worthless Brian Mccaan to be our big bat.. very sad.

  548. mnmboys April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Singleton says doesn’t want to go above speed limit. Lol

  549. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    For a big leaguer 60 mph is probably harder to hit than 80

  550. NYY_Girl_Penny April 19th, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    embarrassing

  551. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    There goes the 0.00 ERA, betances can relax, his job is safe

  552. Benny Blanco April 19th, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    I got out to dinner, come back and its 14-1? nova has so much potential but I’m so tired of his slow starts and elbow soreness issues.

  553. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Good job raccoon

  554. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    CC wished he had that kind of velo

  555. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Not as good as Swisher pitching. Still annoyed Girardi passed up the chance to pitch Ichiro, who always said when he couldn’t hit anymore he’d be a closer and learn to throw a knuckleball.

  556. fredholmes April 19th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    prufrock emailed chad jennings and requested that he ban pat m. because of a blog altercation.

    chad jennings obliged.

  557. Patrick April 19th, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Duh Ichiro will close after the Yankees score 20 runs this inning.

    Also holy crap gameday is garbage this year, it never updates

  558. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    Also holy crap gameday is garbage this year, it never updates

    Yea IDGI. The new MLB.TV player sucks and gameday is always waaaay behind or sometimes just doesn’t update at all. I once checked it looking for the strike zone in the 8th and it was still on an AB from the 2nd.

  559. Doreen April 19th, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    Not quite sure yankeefeminista. There was apparently an exchange here a few weeks ago among several posters here. Pat M was the only one of them who was banned.

  560. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Even as a pitcher Anna’s BA is not very impressive

  561. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Oh good, noted rapist Josh Lueke in to add a crappy cherry to the crappy sundae that is this game.

  562. blake April 19th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Boy this series turned into a suckfest fast

  563. backbench April 19th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Papa John’s is going to go broke giving away free pizzas after these two games.

  564. Chad Jennings April 19th, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    fredholmes April 19th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    prufrock emailed chad jennings and requested that he ban pat m. because of a blog altercation.

    chad jennings obliged.

    This is 100 percent not true, but that’s the only thing I’ll say about a situation that I consider ongoing and uncertain.

  565. Doreen April 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    J Al

    What team did Ed Whitson play for????

  566. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Damn Sizemore hustled all the way to 1B…..He’s way better than Cano!!!!!

  567. Deal With It April 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    It is a sad day when Pat M is banned.

    ==========

    That stinks ..

  568. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    I happen to value Pat M’s contribution on this blog, even though we don’t agree on practically anything and I have not liked the way he has treated Jerkface.

    I certainly would never presume to tell Chad who and who not to ban, and if I had any complaints, it has never been about Pat M, a very solid poster whose hubris sometimes gets the best of him (JMO).

    Now, if I can just get back to watching the game, I think I’ll do that. I’m not talking about this again.

  569. luis April 19th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    I can’t watch with it (MLBTV.com)..I am seriously thinking about dropping the service..Before I could graduate the resolution and watch…Now it does it automatically, therefore I can’t watch

  570. pete2 April 19th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Worst run differential in the Al East after this one. in fact, only the Astros have a lower run differential in the AL. Yikes

  571. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Thanks for posting what you did Chad.

  572. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    Doreen, this has become very sinister and that’s all I’m gonna say.

  573. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Yes, thanks, Chad. There is far too much bullying on here, and it really needs to stop.

  574. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    I didn’t know Chad posted that.

    Thanks indeed, Chad. I appreciate that.

  575. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    J ALfred it’s obviously one of your enemies starting trouble again. Don’t sweat it, your friends have your back. :D

  576. bringbackPatM April 19th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Bring back Pat M.

  577. J. Alfred Prufrock April 19th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Tar and YF,

    Thanks, guys. :)

  578. BoJo April 19th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:21 pm
    Not as good as Swisher pitching. Still annoyed Girardi passed up the chance to pitch Ichiro, who always said when he couldn’t hit anymore he’d be a closer and learn to throw a knuckleball.
    —-
    There is a video of Ichiro putching in Japan…may have been an exhibition or All Star competition. He used to have a 96mph fastball according to video.

  579. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    I have to say I deleted more posts tonight than I actually posted. :shock:

    Doreen you should be proud of me. :D

  580. Jerkface April 19th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    There is a video of Ichiro putching in Japan…may have been an exhibition or All Star competition. He used to have a 96mph fastball according to video.

    He pitched against Matsui I think?

  581. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Tar, I would love to see some of those. ;)

  582. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    There is a video of Ichiro putching in Japan…may have been an exhibition or All Star competition. He used to have a 96mph fastball according to video.”

    Freaking Girardi…he lets Ichiro rot on the bench while he lets dellin pitch in all the good mop up spots!!!! :mad:

  583. Tar April 19th, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    “Tar, I would love to see some of those.”

    Haha I should have saved them. I was en fuego :D

  584. SweetSpot April 19th, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    Well, every team has a few of these clunkers a year. Tomorrow is another day.

  585. Deal With It April 19th, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    bringbackPatM April 19th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Bring back Pat M.

    ========

    HI C.R

    LOL !

  586. Deal With It April 19th, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Does Nova’s sore elbow fit right in with all the other TJS so far this year ?

    Hope not, but it seems to fit the pattern

  587. yankeefeminista April 19th, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Tar, I bet. I erased quite a few myself. Encendido y en fuego. ;)

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    I thought that the Yankees weren’t to play any team that wasn’t at least 3 games under 500! MLB are cheaters .Nova forgot the pine tar!!

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