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Postgame notes: “That was a moment, right there”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 20, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter, Dean Anna

Dean Anna is the backup to Derek Jeter. He’s the guy who was picked to pitch in a blowout yesterday, and he was not supposed to be in the lineup today. The Rays would obviously rather pitch to him with the bases loaded than face Jacoby Ellsbury with runners at the corners.

“I kind of knew, pretty much right when it was happening, that he was gonna get walked for me,” Anna said. “I was just prepared to battle and grind out an at-bat and get that run in somehow, some way, you know?”

Mark Teixeira, Dean AnnaTwo outs. Full count. Twelfth inning. Anna’s go-ahead walk was one of the Yankees biggest moments of this young season. Fail to score there, and only things standing between the Yankees and a complete weekend collapse would have been a Triple-A reliever and a Double-A starter. The Yankees had already been embarrassed on Friday and Saturday, and they might very well have lost their No. 3 starter for the season. They needed something positive, and Anna’s eight-pitch at-bat was exactly that.

“Baseball’s all about moments,” Anna said. “And that was a moment, right there.”

Anna brought in the go-ahead run, Carlos Beltran and Alfonso Soriano built some breathing room, and Preston Claiborne finished off the win with a second inning of scoreless relief. This was very nearly a punch-to-the-gut weekend, but today’s win was a momentum shifter. Imagine how different tomorrow’s off day would feel had the Yankees let this one get away.

“Rookie kid that hasn’t had a lot of at-bats, probably never seen the pitcher before, and he just put on a good at-bat,” Joe Girardi said. “That’s the one thing that we noticed in spring training, he gave you good at-bats. And he gave us a good win tonight.”

Ichiro Suzuki, Logan Forsythe· Anna was only in the game because Girardi had decided to pinch run for Jeter in the 11th. Ichiro Suzuki ran and was caught stealing on a very close play that required replay review. “I’m taking a chance on getting a run there,” Girardi said. “Ich probably had a better chance of stealing a base there, and I’m trying to steal a base there. It’s a hard decision to make, but with some of the inexperience I had in my bullpen, I went for it that inning.”

· Little bit of redemption for Claiborne tonight. After struggling in the second half last season, and then having a brutal spring training, this was his chance to show something and he did. “There were some things I was off about,” Claiborne said. “I just went down (to Triple-A), worked w ith Scotty (Aldred) and fixed them. It was a mechanical thing for the most part, flying off the ball and not getting everything I could behind it. I feel pretty comfortable right now.”

· Essentially using six different relievers — beginning with spot starter Vidal Nuno — the Yankees pitching staff delivered 12 innings without an earned run. Adam Warren bounced back from his rough outing on Friday, and Shawn Kelley continued to pitch well with two no-hit innings that included four strikeouts, including striking out the side in the 10th (against the Nos. 2, 3 and 4 hitters).

Vidal Nuno· Nuno went five scoreless innings in his first spot start of the year. Girardi said the Yankees coaching staff will discuss tomorrow who should take Ivan Nova’s spot in the rotation, and he said that Nuno is “of course” a part of that conversation. “Every day is an opportunity,” Nuno said. “Just showing I can belong here and get people out.”

· Girardi on Nuno: “He was great. We thought he started to tire there at the end and that’s why we pulled him. We even had Phelpsie up earlier than that, but he kept making some big pitches and that’s a big boost to be able to give us five inning like that and to be able to hold that team down, especially the way they were swinging. It’s a big start for him. Obviously we need to make some plans for Saturday, and we’ll do that tomorrow.”

· A lot of replay in this game, beginning with Brett Gardner’s fly out that was really a home run that was ruled a double. Basically, after Wil Myers acted as if he caught the ball at the wall, the umpires ruled Gardner out, but he kept running and crossed home plate on what should have been still a live ball. Upon replay, the umpires decided to put Gardner at second, assuming he would have stopped there had the ball never been ruled a catch. “That’s what they decide in New York,” Girardi said. “It has nothing to do with the umpires on the field. I have no recourse. I can’t argue with people in New York.”

· I thought Gardner at least had a triple. “My argument wasn’t second or third,” Gardner said. “My argument was that it should’ve been second or home. I thought it was kind of a weird play, but I guess get used to it.”

Joe Girardi, Jorge Posada· No replay on the ball that Brian Roberts dropped trying to turn a double play in the seventh. That wound up being a huge play, but baseball is not really calling the transfer ruling anymore this year. “You’ve got to make the transfer and he didn’t do it,” Girardi said. “He didn’t have a grip on the ball, so that’s why I didn’t replay it.”

· Replay also came into play on the Ichiro caught stealing. He was initially ruled safe, but replay showed he was out on a very, very close play. “I put in a guy that I thought had a chance to steal a base and he was darn close,” Girardi said.

· Mark Teixeira had two hits in his return to the lineup. He said his hamstring felt fine with absolutely no issues. “I feel good,” he said. “I still have a lot of rust to knock off; it’s been over a year that I haven’t really been playing consistently. I just have to get back in the groove of things, my teammates will pick me up every now and then, hopefully get some hits here and there and get rolling.”

· Jorge Posada was here today. He was around for batting practice pregame.

· Final word goes to Gardner: “Huge win. Yesterday hurt. Yesterday was embarrassing, but a loss is a loss. You’d rather lose 14-1 than 14-10. It was a huge win for us today; it’s hard to come in here and win two out of four games. Four-game series are tough, especially down here. I feel like we’ve won one or two games down here the past three years. These guys always play us tough and we’re happy to get out of here with two wins for sure.”

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211 Responses to “Postgame notes: “That was a moment, right there””

  1. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    This is why baseball is the best game on the planet.
    I knew going into the bottom of the 12th that 4 runs might not be enough.
    Sure enough, there sat the great Longoria on deck as the tying run.
    It never happened but that’s what makes baseball great.
    Nothing happened but we imagined it could.
    So a pretty routine 12th inning became a potential nightmare to many…

  2. bigdan22 April 20th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Re-post:

    “The credit for successful shift goes primarily to coaching/scouting and the pitcher for hitting his spot, not necessarily the defensive players who are part of the shidt unless they make an exceptional play”

    I think when you talk about defense today you are talking about run prevention. That includes not only the range, hands and arm of the fielders but also how they are positioned and how they perform in their changing positions. In fact, because fielders are being moved around so much in the infield, teams will need infielders who can do more than just play the traditional spots.

    When looking at the complete picture, the Yankee infield defense cost the Yanks a run in seventh today but saved them two in the fourth.

  3. SweetSpot April 20th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Answering Jerkface: Whatever insult that secret acronym means doesn’t bother me at all. People are in positions of authority for a reason. It’s training and experience and when one works at a trade for an extended period of time at a high level one is accorded deserved authority. Does a pilot know more about flying a plane than you do? Does a chef in a three star Michelin restaurant know more about making a sauce than you do? Does a dentist know more about filling a cavity than you do?

    Guess what, due to their training, experience and decades of plying their trade, Girardi, Rothschild, Peña, et al know far more about pitching, injuries and everything in between than you do. That’s not appealing to authority, that is recognizing and respecting the abilities of skilled, highly regarded professionals.

  4. austinmac April 20th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Chicken,

    Very sad to have you leave. You are a prince of a fellow. Come back when you can.

  5. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    · A lot of replay in this game, beginning with Brett Gardner’s fly out that was really a home run that was ruled a double.
    =====================
    Chad-
    How was that a HR?
    Did he hit it over a line on the wall that counts as a HR?
    If so, wouldn’t that have been the obvious call?

  6. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    bigdan22 April 20th, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Re-post:

    “The credit for successful shift goes primarily to coaching/scouting and the pitcher for hitting his spot, not necessarily the defensive players who are part of the shidt unless they make an exceptional play”

    I think when you talk about defense today you are talking about run prevention. That includes not only the range, hands and arm of the fielders but also how they are positioned and how they perform in their changing positions.

    ——————————————-

    I agree on your definition, but when we are talking about this IF defense, most of us are talking about the players defensive abilities. The shift may be able to alleviate some of their shortcomings, but not all since players have to make plays no matter where they are positioned

  7. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    It’s gonna be a bummer when Ryan replaces Anna.
    He’s become a good luck charm of sorts on this team.

  8. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    If the ump called the Gardner play right, then no way Gardner gets a home run, so i don’t understand the argument that he should be given a HR after the call is overturned on review,

  9. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    If the ump called the Gardner play right, then no way Gardner gets a home run, so i don’t understand the argument that he should be given a HR after the call is overturned on review,
    ==============
    Exactly. And Gardner thought it was a HR as well.
    That should have been obvious in replay if it hit above a line on the OF wall.
    Perhaps Chad can explain as he wrote it, I guess.

  10. Section 8 April 20th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    re-post:

    I don’t post much and certainly never to get in the middle of the disagreement between posters. But I have to voice support for SweetSpot here.

    I have no doubt Luis saw what he saw and it unfortunately turns out that his guess was right. But that’s what it was, a guess. To think that someone watching television can assess an injury better than trained professionals in the same room, spending most of every day together, talking to the person, well that’s just delusional. And to sit on your couch and imply incompetence (or worse yet, some conspiracy of ignorance) is just unfair.

    There’s been a lot of community-reinforced, self-important delusion going on around here lately. Can everyone just go back to grousing about the lineup, pitching changes, umpire calls, and proposing ridiculous one-sided trades?

  11. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    i just watched gardner’s hit again. the ball clearly hit the wall below the line, so it was not a HR, but it certainly should have been called a triple.

  12. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    there are certain people on here who are going to blame everything that goes wrong on the FO, manager or coaches, no matter what.

  13. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Y’s

    I believe what was implied was that Garner kept running and crossed the plate.
    I didn’t see that, as he slowed down rounding 2nd then picked it up again into 3rd.
    Never saw him cross home.
    There will be tougher judgement calls than this one . I mentioned this a few weeks ago.
    Surprised it took this long to happen.
    Calling it a triple would have caused a ruckus so they went with more or less a grounds rule double, which I think will be their go-to call in most cases.

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock April 20th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Free-Range,

    Don’t leave!!!

    We are sorely in want of people like you (that’s because no one’s quite like you!).

    Please reconsider.

  15. Rule 9 April 20th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Once the umpire rules that Myers caught the ball and Gardner is out, the ball is dead. Gardner cannot advance to home and upon replay be granted a home run for doing so.

  16. bigdan22 April 20th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    “I agree on your definition, but when we are talking about this IF defense, most of us are talking about the players defensive abilities. The shift may be able to alleviate some of their shortcomings, but not all since players have to make plays no matter where they are positioned.”

    —–

    It’s just very complicated now. While it’s easy to blame Roberts for missing the double play in the 7th, shouldn’t we give him credit for making the play in the 4th from basically short center field that saved two runs and maybe the game? Second baseman are generally not expected to make plays from that spot on the field.

    A couple games ago the Yanks missed a double on a shift when Roberts fielded the ball on the lip of the outfield grass behind second base and started to flip it to Jeter. Jeter, however, was nowhere close to the bag because he was shifted over towards third base. The third baseman was over in right field at the time. You could say that the shift cost the Yanks a double play but if there had been no shift Roberts never would have fielded the ball to begin with.

  17. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    It would’ve been considered a HR because the play wasn’t dead, because it hit off the wall, Gardner crossed home plate and should’ve been still a live ball with Myers running into the infield on what should’ve been considered a continuing play. Sort of like if he catches it on a hop and decides to run circles around the outfield while the player runs around the bases.

  18. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    The umps somehow decided that Gardner would have only made it to 2nd.
    Saying he would have made it to 3rd requires some creativity as well as watching that Gardner was busting it all the way to 2nd.
    Another case for hustling out every play but if the umps don’t pay attention then what good is it?

  19. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    i just watched gardner’s hit again. the ball clearly hit the wall below the line, so it was not a HR, but it certainly should have been called a triple.
    ====================

    Why a triple? Meyers has a good arm and was in position to make a quick throw in.

  20. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    I was surprised Maddon’s shift didn’t stop Beltrans roller up the middle as well.

  21. Rule 9 April 20th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    Myers ran towards the infield because it was ruled an out by the umpire, thus rendering the play dead.

  22. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    Howler April 20th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    It would’ve been considered a HR because the play wasn’t dead, because it hit off the wall, Gardner crossed home plate and should’ve been still a live ball with Myers running into the infield on what should’ve been considered a continuing play.
    ===== ====

    Its not a live play when the ump calls it an out. Play stops there.

  23. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    Why a triple? Meyers has a good arm and was in position to make a quick throw in.
    ===============
    because Gardner was thinking inside the parker and was already on 2nd when he “caught” it.

  24. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    I’m just explaining the argument Chad is making over it being a HR.

  25. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    whatever happened it defies any logic that they put him on 2nd.
    it was just the easiest call for them to make.

  26. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    The umpires are trying to save face for being played.

  27. Rule 9 April 20th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    There is no argument for it to be a home run.

  28. pat April 20th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Anyone know where I could look to find career walk offs for a player

  29. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    it’s amazing they couldn’t see it hit the wall.
    trap plays are tougher.

  30. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Well, if they didn’t call it an out and he tried that routine and Gardner kept running for an inside the park then it could’ve been a HR.

  31. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    gardner was a step from 2B when myers came down from his jump. there is no way he could have thrown gardner out at 3rd, The replay official is supposed to place the runners based on where they would have ended up had the missed call not been made. in this case, it should have been 3B. but im not surprised they put him at 2B. i think mick has it right, they took the easy call and will probably err on that side in every review.

  32. Rule 9 April 20th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Yes. However, the umpire ruled Gardner was out. The play is thus dead. Chad has no basis for that argument.

  33. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    That wire fence probably does not provide a great background and its about 60 yards away from the ump, and Myers sold it pretty well when the ball jumped into his glove

  34. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    there is no way gardner would have scored on that play unless someone dropped the relay or something.

    but theres also no way he would have been thrown out at 3B.

  35. mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I’m waiting for some hometown ballboy to grab a ball called foul then challenged and found fair.
    Imagine it happening late in the season in a crucial game at Fenway where the wall juts out and crazy bounces are routine.
    Will they automatically put the man on 2nd and what about any runners?
    If the runner was on 1st, would they have the audacity to put him on 3rd b/c in effect, they ruled it a ground rule double when he easily would have scored?

  36. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    thats the wrong interpretation. if the ball was dead when myers caught it, then gardner would have to go back to 1B because he hadnt stepped on 2nd when the ‘catch’ call was made. the replay official is supposed to place the runner where he would have ended up and his judgement on that is questionable, imo. but the ‘dead ball’ thing is not what decides the call.

  37. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    I remember all the outcry when Jeter faked getting hit by the pitch..I bet in Tampa they’re lauding Myers for his creativity.

  38. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    They really opened up a can of worms with this replay thing.
    One thing it does show is how incompetent the umps are on anything other than routine calls.
    It seems they get every close one wrong, at least more than half of them.
    Imagine waht goes on behind the plate.
    Todays ump had the biggest strike zone since Eric Gregg, RIP.

  39. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    There was not a good angle but it looked like Myers had jogged about 30 ft back to the IF by the time Gardner reached 2b, and he did not start jogging in right away

  40. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    they are getting more of the calls right. its not perfect.
    on the gardner play, the replay at least corrected an out call that was not an out. the placement of the runner is not as big as the ‘out call’ which was corrected.

  41. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    I remember all the outcry when Jeter faked getting hit by the pitch..I bet in Tampa they’re lauding Myers for his creativity.
    ==================
    There will be so many quirky replays this year including HBP’s.
    There will be one where they have to determine if it hit the blousey part of the uniform or not.
    It happened a lot today and definitely effected the flow of the game.

  42. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    thats the wrong interpretation. if the ball was dead when myers caught it, then gardner would have to go back to 1B because he hadnt stepped on 2nd when the ‘catch’ call was made. the replay official is supposed to place the runner where he would have ended up and his judgement on that is questionable, imo. but the ‘dead ball’ thing is not what decides the call.
    ================

    The ball was dead, that’s why the umpires makes the judgement call on where the runner would have ended up if they got it right, and they decided 2B. Its the same with fan interference. Stop building straw men, nobody said the ball is dead decided where the runner ends up.

  43. rm April 20th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    If Meyers knew he caught the ball off of the wall and chose not to make a play on Gardner in order to deceive the umpire you could argue that Gardner would have made it to third or possibly even home because of the risk Meyers took by choosing not to make a throw. With the replay rule it may be wise to try to make a throw if there is the slightest doubt that a legitimate catch was made and then let the replay sort out whether or not it was a catch

  44. bigdan22 April 20th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    They really opened up a can of worms with this replay thing.
    One thing it does show is how incompetent the umps are on anything other than routine calls.
    It seems they get every close one wrong, at least more than half of them.

    —–

    It certainly seems that way with tag plays on the bases. I’m beginning to think almost every one needs to be reviewed. Even when the throw beats the runner by a lot, the fielder often misses the tag. Before replay, the runner would be called out and no one would even argue. And when you have a close play like the Ichiro steal today it seems virtually impossible to call the play right in real time unless you are just lucky.

  45. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    ‘straw men’, what are you talking about? i was addressing rule9 and responding to his comment, how is that a ‘straw man’? in fact, its the opposite of the ‘straw man’ construction.

    and i still disagree that myers could have thrown gardner out. (that was directed at you and not some ‘straw man’)

  46. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    These umps are under such scrutiny now that the pressure to get it right might be effecting them.
    They will prolly have a ratings system , sort of like a fielding %, where you can see who the better umpires are.
    I don’t know how they ever got this replay thing in place.
    Now they also have to decide where runners will be placed?
    Let that be a decison made by the guys in the basement in NY with all the cameras.
    There is no way the ones on the field can keep track of everything.

  47. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    i always thought the umps missed almost half of the stolen bases calls at 2b, so the results of the replays on those plays are just about where i expected they would be.

  48. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    well that was what i call some good baseball talk…better than the claptrap (never used that word before) that goes on in here from time to time…thank you Y’s, Pete, BigDan, Howler.

  49. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    night, mick!

  50. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    did i say i was leaving Y’s? ;)

  51. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    at least i’m not going to bed yet….watching bulls wash game and balt rs…wash is giving them a game

  52. Howler April 20th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    It’s nice when it does happen from time to time :)

  53. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    ok i thought you were signing off. im watching the RS O’s game but im starting to doze off myself.

  54. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    its hard for it to happen consistently within the framework of daily living and the distractions it brings to sports chat.

    damn reality…

  55. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    a lot of experts are picking the wizards over da bulls

  56. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    somehow i think if they would have lost this game today with the time we invested in it, it would have hurt real bad and the venom here would have flowed like molten lava..

  57. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    sometimes i swear i am watching a soccer game or a college football game when i hear the fenway fans ..

  58. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    See here we go in Fenway on the Transfer call again. That is not a catch anymore.

  59. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    another ‘transfer play’ call at 2B in the RS game. they used to miss it all the time thinking the ball was lost in transfer, but this year they’re going the other way. the runner should have been out in both cases, imo.

  60. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    maybe we can have a replay system in place here at lohud where we can point out the absurdities being thrown around and have a neutral party decide who is “right.” ;)

  61. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    that would work for me

  62. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    this replay system is starting to look like obamacare did in the beginning.

  63. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Papi Time. Oh boy

  64. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Ortiz man smh

  65. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    i knew if i turned this game on the rs would come back.

  66. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    i think they’ve corrected a bunch of wrong calls so far. they havent gotten them all right, but its much better then letting wrong calls stand, imo.

  67. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    well, ubaldo didnt make it through the 5th and the Orioles BP is already taxed with an 11 am game tomorrow, so im not surprised the RS have come back.

  68. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    they are redefining some plays like the transfer, etc…
    don’t know if it refines the game tho’

  69. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Really fine work from Kelley today. Guy manhandled Longo the best I have seen a Yankee pitcher do for quite awhile.

    O’s are turning this game into a circus

  70. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    I think I hate Gomes more than Papi.

  71. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    machado will make them a much better team when he comes back (in about 2 weeks i hear)

  72. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    wizards beat bulls, hawks beat pacers…bizarro world.

  73. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Kruk sitting in the booth with a Red Sox jersey on tonight.

  74. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    birds play sox tooth and nail tho’

  75. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    5 out of 6 Orioles errors at 3B. that wont happen when manny comes back.

  76. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    he could move to ss next year if hardy bolts

  77. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    espn was making this their commemoration of the anniversary of the boston bombing, so i have no problem with Kruk wearing a RS jersey.

  78. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    hate to say it but these fenway fans are a unique bunch
    they are able to keep that old time feeling in that park as it has never really changed
    lots of young people, college kids, children bring excitement to the park in small surroundings
    i’m sure trisha would disagree…

  79. bruceb April 20th, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    No better place to watch baseball than Fenway. Whatever the outcome, this week will make a pleasant change after what seemed like an eternity in the botanical garden otherwise known as Tropicana Field.

  80. bruceb April 20th, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    And good luck to all those running or spectating at the Boston Marathon tomorrow. Have a safe and enjoyable day.

  81. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    No better place to watch baseball than Fenway.
    ====================
    have you been?
    i found the sightlines impossible to navigate.
    if you have those seats behind the plate you might be right.
    the atmosphere seems collegiate.

  82. mick April 20th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    kruk doesn’t seem to be waxing poetic tonight about the sox
    maybe it’s his hatred for the yanks more than a love for the rs.

  83. bruceb April 20th, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Twice…and I loved it both times. The facilities aren’t great and yes, you can have a restricted view, but it’s what I imagine old-time baseball to be.

  84. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    bruce

    i was there for the 99 All Star game…never will forget it…mcgwire in the hr derby…the 100 greatest players of all time gathering around ted williams on the mound…pedro striking out the 1st 5 guys.

  85. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    would have loved to have seen the Mick there….if he only knew what he was doing to his body.

  86. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    i love fenway and Boston. i once saw billy martin’s (rickeyball) a’s come back from 8-0 to win there

  87. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    fenway has these old time urinals or was that wrigley?
    it really is practical and efficient as there is always room for one more…no lines

  88. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    carlos gomez can annoy the hell out of alot of people, but why should gerrit cole take exception if he doesnt hustle out a fair ball? it’s to cole’s adantage if he doesnt hustle on a ball in play.

  89. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    tho’ some here would disagree:

    http://franchisefantasy.blogsp.....sucks.html

  90. bruceb April 20th, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Old trough-style urinals remind me of most of the football grounds in England in the 1970s. You tried desperately to hold it until you got home!

  91. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    farrell screwed up the pitching change. i’ve never seen that before.

  92. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    since replay, baseball seems to have gotten crazier..

  93. jmills April 20th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Hey, chicken, you’ve got a place here.

  94. I am Brett Godner April 20th, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Things smarter than Kruk:

    A half can of warm miller light
    A dead worm
    A bundle of sticks
    Third base
    The citgo sign
    A VHS tape
    Shoe laces
    A zip,lock bag full of string
    ….

  95. bbb51 April 20th, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    They are going to have to adjust the transfer rule, or at least the application of it. You shouldn’t lose the first out because you messed up trying to get the second.

  96. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Enter the Night Crew.

  97. bbb51 April 20th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Hey chicken, don’t let the bad guys (children) win.

  98. tbone1570 April 20th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    farrell screwed up the pitching change. i’ve never seen that before.

    *******************************
    Ys, I’m not watching the game, what did farrell do?

  99. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Dumb ass boston fans

  100. I am Brett Godner April 20th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Fenway is like the mini golf course of baseball.

  101. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    No way man. That is not a HR

  102. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    So if the fan makes that catch it’s a HR, right?

  103. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    4 wide ones here to Ortiz

  104. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Jeffrey Maier we hardly knew ye…

  105. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    delmon young was on deck for the O’s and Farrell came out and made the pitching change before young was announced, so buck could have gone with a different PH or gone back to the scheduled batter. but he sent young up there anyway.

  106. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    why are they pitching to him?

  107. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    No he let Lough hit. Young did not hit.

  108. tbone1570 April 20th, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    Thanks Ys!

  109. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    walking the bases loaded?
    how did that work out today Maddon?

  110. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    o yes, i was wrong, young did not hit. thanks unknown.

  111. mick April 20th, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    This is why ESPN loves the RS.
    The games here are Off The Wall….

    Good Night Folks!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U

  112. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    fastball off the knee, ouch!

  113. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    Wow that was such a Boston scab out victory.

  114. UnKnown April 20th, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Buck doesn’t like it. He is trying to come up with something.

  115. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    challenging that pedroia never tagged up i think.

  116. Ys Guy April 20th, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    pedroia tagged then started off the bag, then went back near the bag but didnt touch it the second time. buck must not have seen the tag. its game over.

  117. pete2 April 20th, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    Orioles have a lot of issues. Red Sox have a lot of luck.

    That transfer rule is a complete joke. It’s beyond idiotic and somebody should lose their job over it.

    Looking at the standings now and its interesting that the only team that the Yankees have played that’s a 500 team or better is the 10-9 Blue Jays

  118. BoJo April 20th, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Wow! Phil Hughes actually got a victory today. You can’t predict baseball…..

  119. BoJo April 20th, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    In a way, I am glad Boston won. I view the Orioles as a bigger threat this year.

  120. BoJo April 20th, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    Sorry to see Chicken go. I don’t know why anyone would bother him….really nice fellow.

  121. Chad Jennings April 20th, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    mick April 20th, 2014 at 8:28 pm e

    · A lot of replay in this game, beginning with Brett Gardner’s fly out that was really a home run that was ruled a double.
    =====================
    Chad-
    How was that a HR?
    Did he hit it over a line on the wall that counts as a HR?
    If so, wouldn’t that have been the obvious call?

    —-

    The players were told in spring training that, because of replay, they’re supposed to finish out every play even when it’s the third out. The Yankees did that on the Gardner fly ball. What actually happened on the field was that Myers caught a ball off the wall, never threw it in, and Gardner kept running until he crossed home plate. The play itself — as it played out on the field — was clearly an inside-the-park home run.

    That said, the umpires had ruled the ball dead, so upon replay they had little choice but to put Gardner back on the bases somewhere, either at second or third. They chose second, I assume because Gardner was there when the ball was ruled dead.

    That’s why I say it was a fly out (which it was initially) that was really a home run (which it actually was on the field) that was ruled a double (which it was because of the missed call by the umpire). I think Gardner wound up where he would have been had the play been called correctly on the field, but as it actually played out, the actual play itself was a home run that became a double because of the umpire’s missed call. The Yankees didn’t get cheated or anything, it’s just the way it played out.

  122. yankinvegas April 20th, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    I have never understood the love for Fenway. The place is a dump, the fans are jerks. They complain about “cheap” YS homers, yet the damn wall makes a travesty of the game.
    When they play Baltimore, while I always want the Red Sox to lose, it’s difficult because Showalter is the biggest jackass in baseball – after Selig, of course.
    I hope that Joe keeps running Nuno out there. He throws strikes, works quick and seems to have a real nice feel for pitching.
    If we can acquire a bat to play third, our team will be real good. As it is, I think we will win the division in a close race with Boston and Baltimore. Tampa will miss Moore more than we will miss Nova and their lineup is lacking. Unfortunately for them they only get to play us 16 more times this year while have 127 more games against other teams.

  123. bbb51 April 21st, 2014 at 12:53 am

    Split with TB and they didn’t see our two best pitchers, not bad.

  124. I am Brett Godner April 21st, 2014 at 12:55 am

    “The players were told in spring training that, because of replay, they’re supposed to finish out every play even when it’s the third out. The Yankees did that on the Gardner fly ball….”

    It’s spelled Godner.

  125. Doc Iac April 21st, 2014 at 12:58 am

    Hector Noesi: 1 IP, 7H, 7R, 7ER, 1BB, 1K. No words to describe this outing.

  126. BD (Boston Dave) April 21st, 2014 at 1:00 am


    In a way, I am glad Boston won. I view the Orioles as a bigger threat this year.”

    ——

    No way.

  127. pete2 April 21st, 2014 at 1:38 am

    Also sorry Chicken flew the coop. Only here a short time but he seemed to get along with everyone here and cheered things up. Obviously someone does not like chickens or weak hitting IF’ers, or likes them in not a nice way, like foxes or psychos. Best just to use a garbage email account for blogs to make it easier to ignore the nuts.

  128. BoJo April 21st, 2014 at 2:23 am

    BD (Boston Dave) April 21st, 2014 at 1:00 am

    In a way, I am glad Boston won. I view the Orioles as a bigger threat this year.”

    ——

    No way.
    ====
    Way.

  129. BoJo April 21st, 2014 at 2:40 am

    And thus ends a profound and scintillating debate…

  130. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:26 am

    Buenos dias Amigos.

    :)

  131. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:28 am

    Even after Nuno rotted 9 days on the bench he was sharp yesterday.

    That is pretty amazing.

  132. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:34 am

    Terrific job by the Yankees scouting department finding 2 guys like Nuno and Solarte.

    :)

  133. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 7:37 am

    Good morning MTU

    Should Nova need surgery, Nuno would be my choice, since he would add balance as the second lefty in the rotation.

    The offense has been pretty bad since the Yankees scored 4 off Bedard Friday night.

    Look at these stats of all major league teams with RISP. The veteran Yankee team is in the bottom 3, and worse than last year.

    http://www.teamrankings.com/ml.....n-per-game

    Even their stolen bases attempted is down from last year.

  134. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 7:42 am

    Still a Solarte Fan even though he is something like 1 for 10 in his last at bats.

    Always seems to make contact. He has looked great at second in turning the DP.

    Should he still be a player and provide offense, which position in the infield would you like him to play routinely ?

  135. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:43 am

    YT-

    I agree. A 2nd lefty is a good thing.

    He also adds a different look.

    GGBG needs to steal more.

    I was hoping he’d learn something from Ellsbury.

  136. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:47 am

    YT-

    He can play either 2b or 3b on a regular basis.

    So I guess it depends on what they need.

    If he can’t hit w power 2b is more suited.

    Meyers robbed Solarte of a double yesterday.

  137. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 7:51 am

    Girardi has almost no confidence in Betances.

    Why not just send him down to get more work ?

    He needs to throw regularly.

  138. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 7:54 am

    Trade I’m glad the Yankees never made this offseason.

    Brandon Phillips has been awful.

  139. Tar April 21st, 2014 at 7:58 am

    “Girardi has almost no confidence in Betances.”

    8ip- 1 hit- 14k’s should be what he’s focused on.

    Instead it’s he’s a rookie who has 6 walks is what Joe is focused on. He’s hard headed when it comes to stuff like that.

  140. exiledintampa April 21st, 2014 at 7:59 am

    RIP HURRICANE!

    Bob Dylan will never let us forget you.

  141. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:00 am

    Yankees need Betances to stay in the BP and pitch. No one else in the BP can dial it up.

    The person they need to replace is Thornton. He might have a good ERA, but his WHIP is 1.50

  142. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:03 am

    When will Robertson be back

  143. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:03 am

    Tomorrow

  144. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Mitchell to go back supposedly

  145. JimK April 21st, 2014 at 8:06 am

    An interesting take on baseball’s new “transfer” rule, with some very ridiculous examples where the umpires decided an outfielder did not catch the ball even though they held on to the ball long enough to take several steps before throwing the ball back to the infield.
    The author makes a valid claim that the new rule is at odds with the infield fly rule.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....n-purpose/

  146. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 8:07 am

    Tar/YT-

    Didn’t JG have a need for him last night ?

    And he went to just about anyone else instead.

    That tells you all you need to know when Claiborne and Mitchell are trusted more.

  147. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:10 am

    After the blowouts Friday and Saturday the Yankees are in the bottom three in earned runs per game allowed

    http://www.teamrankings.com/ml.....t-per-game

  148. JimK April 21st, 2014 at 8:10 am

    If the rule stands as is for the remainder of the season there will be a lot of miserable groundball pitchers.

  149. JimK April 21st, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Yankee Trader, they are not much better in runs scored per game either. A better measurement would be how many games does a team allow or score three or more runs per game(e.g. percentage of games played where a team allowed or scored more than 3 or possibly runs). This will mitigate blowout games from the overall statistics.

  150. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:25 am

    JimK

    Thanks for the link. Looking at some of the terrific “catches” the outfielders made, it should stand as a catch, and if the outfielder drops the ball in the transfer, the runner should pay attention and advance, only when they have tagged back up on the base and then advanced.

    Was that how things were handled before? Otherwise as the author said the outfielder could make a catch, purposely drop the ball and get the lead runner out, especially if a speedster, by tossing it to the lead bag.

    Am I making any sense?

  151. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:25 am

    Yankee Trader says:
    April 21, 2014 at 8:10 am
    After the blowouts Friday and Saturday the Yankees are in the bottom three in earned runs per game allowed

    http://www.teamrankings.com/ml…..t-per-game

    It’s misleading though because the guy they was allowing all those runs is now on the DL……

  152. Doreen April 21st, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Betances had thrown something like 40 pitches the night before. No way was Girardi using him yesterday. Yesterday had nothing to do with confidence in Betances. It had to do with pitches thrown.

  153. MTU April 21st, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Thanks for pointing that out Doreen.

    My mistake.

  154. liquifilm April 21st, 2014 at 8:28 am

    JimK I have seen a lot of people recommend that article but I think its some of the poorest stuff to come out of fangraphs. ~1000 words about why the author thinks the ump is wrong but the first mention of the actual rule is by a commenter. The scenarios described are not only completely implausible but in fact some of them are impossible under the definition of a catch. The merits of changing the interpretation is up for debate but the all the calls are perfectly in line with MLB rule 2.0

  155. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Blake

    If you could align the pitching staff, based on current production, who would be your five starters in order and your seven BP arms, starting at closer, and working down. Leave room somewhere for a LOOGY.

  156. RadioKev April 21st, 2014 at 8:31 am

    Managers have to start abusing that new rule to get it thrown out as soon as possible.

  157. pkyankfan69 April 21st, 2014 at 8:35 am

    Eventually the stars will align and Joe will be forced to use Dellin in a big spot… Sure he has walked 6 in 8 IP but he’s also only given up 1 hit with 14 K’s… Seems like Dellin would be the perfect fit for a situation like guys on 2B and 3B with only 1 out when you really need the K big time but also have a base open… Baby steps (I guess.)

  158. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:36 am

    “If you could align the pitching staff, based on current production, who would be your five starters in order and your seven BP arms, starting at closer, and working down. Leave room somewhere for a LOOGY.”

    Tanaka
    Kuroda
    Pineda
    Sabathia
    Nuno

    Robertson
    Kelly
    Betances
    Phelps
    Warren
    Thornton
    Whoever

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:37 am

    Good morning,

    Tar, I called Anna “Stanky” to bring us luck yesterday. Good one! Enjoy your work trip through Monday ;) Say hi to our friend on Cape Cod.

    Have a good morning, folks

  160. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:38 am

    I wouldn’t give up on Thornton yet…..its April 20…..he still throws 95……I think Girardi needs to find him a consistent role and he like Betances needs work to stay sharp…..

  161. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:40 am

    The yanks have allowed 79 ERs so far this year…..Sabathia and Nova have given up 43 % of those runs

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Doreen April 21st, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Betances had thrown something like 40 pitches the night before. No way was Girardi using him yesterday. Yesterday had nothing to do with confidence in Betances. It had to do with pitches thrown.
    ///

    Good morning Doreen,

    While I agree with this, if he hadn’t burned him in a meaningless game the day before, he would have been available for high leverage yesterday. It worked out, but it’s time to take off the training wheels or send this kid somewhere where his brand of dominance is appreciated.

    Are you going tonight to see our Riverdogs? I can hardly wait. (btw, I didn’t quite get the EdWhitson reference, but no matter.)

  163. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:41 am

    I would like to see Betances get more work but I think the best spot for him is to begin an inning….if he walks in a run coming in with the bases loaded…….it will hurt his confidence and possibly set him back…..I think he can be great in the relief role….

  164. Chip April 21st, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Personally, I’m excited for whatever BS spin comes out of Yankee Stadium to justify starting Phelps over Nuno.

  165. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Pitching in Fenway will be a good test for Tanaka and Pineda, currently our two Aces.

  166. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Throw in Nuno and those three pitchers have allowed 51 % of the runs.

    Because of the small sample it’s not a Great indication of how they have actually pitched that they are near the bottom in ers allowed……because when you lose a couple of blow outs early in the season it’s gonna look bad. Overall the pitching hasn’t been bad other than Nova……they need to start hitting and get the pen straightened out

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:43 am

    Having Thornton pitching to RHB is the rub, especially when Betances is available. Girardi is too La Russa like, therefore I cannot buy into the “great bullpen manager” meme; he’s too robotic for me.

  168. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:43 am

    We have two pitchers that seem better suited for starting…..Phelps and Nuno…….based upon what how I’ve seen Girardi use Phelps…..it would seem a good bet that Nuno gets the nod at the 5 slot

  169. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:44 am

    Nuno was great yesterday but he had been pretty terrible before that……I think yesterday is more who he is though……he’s a pretty crafty little squat lefty

  170. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:45 am

    I think Nuno has more upside as a starter than phelps……1 because he’s left handed……Phelps is a back end guy and I don’t see him really ever gettin past that with his stuff.

  171. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:45 am

    any word on this next wave of International signings???

  172. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:45 am

    With a 1.50 WHIP, bringing in Thornton, should not be a confidence builder. His ERA is fine, but I wonder how many inherited runners, he has allowed to score?

  173. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:47 am

    Blake…..Nuno seems better suited for starting….he really gets in a rhythm and that’s hard to do when you come in for one or two batters……yesterday was the best I have seen him……he was pounding that strike zone and moving his pitches all around as well as mixing them

  174. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:48 am

    I think the Yanks need to just make a decision to start Nuno and let it go for awhile and see what he does. If it’s not working then you can address it in July but at the moment the rotation isn’t the biggest issue with this club. The bullpen and infield are bigger problems

  175. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Nuno actually dialed it up to 90 on the radar gun. I haven’t seen CC do that.

    Nuno gives balance to the rotation. If not Nuno, Warren has better overall stuff than Phelps. Then there is Aceves in AAA.

  176. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:49 am

    I’m doing some blog catching up…what in the world went on in here this weekend?! From what I gather some bans have been handed out, we’re down one chicken (The Hound will be pretty pissed), and people are referencing cloaks and daggers and in relation to Game of Thrones…?

  177. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Blake…..Nuno seems better suited for starting….he really gets in a rhythm and that’s hard to do when you come in for one or two batters……yesterday was the best I have seen him……he was pounding that strike zone and moving his pitches all around as well as mixing them”

    Agreed…..I said during the game yesterday that he remind me so much of this fat little lefty I played college ball with……he would give you the most comfortable 0-4 of your life and if you got on base against him he’d pick you off

  178. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Who got banned? And why

  179. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:50 am

    I thought Nuno looked awesome yesterday.

    YT – I’m with you, Thorton doesn’t inspire a ton of confidence for me.

  180. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:50 am

    I think we need a banned list on the side and reason for banning beside their name so I can keep up

  181. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Thornton*

    blake – Apparently Pat M…?

  182. Chip April 21st, 2014 at 8:51 am

    Blake –

    I think Phelps and Nuno are both back end starters – neither one of them have stuff that translates well into a relief role. With as many relief options as the team has, trying to force those guys into a role they’re not well suited for was bad judgement. That Girardi is willing to risk throwing away games to get Phelps his confidence back by continuing to run him out there in tough spots is even worse judgement.

    As I said, through no fault of his own, David Phelps has become the new Chris Stewart – the guy Girardi wants out there for no reason other than that he does.

  183. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:51 am

    I don’t worry about Betances coming in in the middle of an inning. He’ll get used to that, and in his own starts, he got out of his own trouble without damage, time and time again. He’s always some brutal contact and a whiff away from escape.

    More often than not, when he would fail in those situations, it was due to his infield completely betraying him. Trenton had awful infielders (our current rag-tag team doesn’t even remotely compare). I’m talking like automatic groundouts being bungled and booted by a SS only in name, a hole at 3B and the Indian Cigar Man at 2B. Walter Ibarra, Maruszak, Lyerly or Segedin at third, Pirela at SS (another level of awful)…. there are no words for how bad these guys were.

    He doesn’t give up flyballs or line drives, so he’d either have to strike out the remainder of outs or they’d come and get him after more infield butchery because they were married to robotic pitch counts.

    I trust Dellin in just about any situation, unless he just is flatout wild that day. Haven’t seen much of that.

  184. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:51 am

    Blake — as you said in an earlier post….let’s give him the ball and see how he does in multiple starts…….

  185. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:53 am

    I do love that Nuno is a lefty.. I really think the back end of our rotation will be fine. We probably could withstand one more injury to the rotation and I’d still feel that way.

  186. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Just reported in NYPost

    “Nova injury could mean the Yankees look to trade for a starter.”

    Lee, signed through next year at $25 million with a $27.5 million vesting option for 2016, has a 4.00 ERA in four starts for the Phillies, who seem destined to stink. Could the Phillies finally sell off the veteran lefty to restock their farm system? And would the Yankees, with the struggles of their minor leagues well-documented, have the package sufficient to land such a big fish, assuming Steinbrenner greenlights taking on the money Lee is owed?

    Other possible trade targets include Cleveland’s Justin Masterson, the Cubs’ Jeff Samardzija, Arizona’s Bronson Arroyo and (yikes) Lee’s Phillies teammate A.J. Burnett.

    http://nypost.com/2014/04/21/n.....r-starter/

  187. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Ideal I think putting Pineda and Nuno back to back in the rotation would be good……two totally different looks

  188. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:53 am
    I do love that Nuno is a lefty.. I really think the back end of our rotation will be fine. We probably could withstand one more injury to the rotation and I’d still feel that way.
    —————-
    and that probably will happen…..you can’t have enough pitching……….

  189. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Cliff Lee please….I don’t care if he’s a jerk….he’s a surgeon on the mound

  190. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Again though I wouldnt be trying to trade for a starter now…..lets see how Nuno does and they have bigger problems at the moment

  191. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Why did Pat M get banned?

  192. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:56 am

    I’d love to have another starter but is this team taking the focus on pitching to the extreme…? We could upgrade the INF for what we’d spend on Lee, couldn’t we?

  193. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:57 am

    I also think we will see Shane Greene starting some games for us later this summer…….. he opened some eyes this spring and he could be ready to make the next step

  194. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Was he Percocet posting again?

  195. blake April 21st, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    April 21, 2014 at 8:56 am
    I’d love to have another starter but is this team taking the focus on pitching to the extreme…? We could upgrade the INF for what we’d spend on Lee, couldn’t we?

    Id rather have Utley right now ….get him

  196. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Thornton*

    blake – Apparently Pat M…?
    ///

    Chad never officially used those words, but Doreen – and someone else who has access to Pat M or his information, interestingly, but who is considered a pariah here, more interestingly – both knew about it: from Pat M, presumably (although the second “source”, it seems fairly clear to me, was derivative. I prefer that conclusion to the alternative).

    I don’t know why he got banned, but I wish both he and Randy would be given another chance, here. Not our call, though.

  197. GregD April 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Percocet posting??? my goodness……

  198. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am

    @MartinoNYDN The #Yankees had a “big” win — yet still, a bad day. Here’s why http://bitly.com/1i7BeTS Plus, what Nova told teammates about his UCL tear.

  199. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am

    GregD,

    We have a lot of pitching depth, albeit inexperienced depth. Greene is another guy who collects groundouts.

  200. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 9:00 am

    This is the one lefty, I wish the Yankees would have signed, with the latest info on his return from TJ.

    Eric O’Flaherty (elbow) threw a successful bullpen session in front of Athletics manager Bob Melvin on Saturday.
    The A’s believe that he could be cleared to face live hitters by the time they return from their next road trip. He remains on track to rejoin the A’s bullpen at some point in June, making an already strong bullpen even more dominant. Apr 19 – 2:20 PM
    Source: Jane Lee on Twitter

  201. Madrugador April 21st, 2014 at 9:00 am

    I don’t understand this ban thing. How does one get banned and how can I avoid that?

    Nuno has to have a leg (or arm) up on Phelps if only because he is more stetched out. Tend to agree that Phelps will never be more than a back end guy and that his stuff plays better in the pen that does Nuno’s stuff.

  202. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 9:03 am

    (although the second “source”, it seems fairly clear to me, was derivative. I prefer that conclusion to the alternative)

    ——————–

    Just looking over the last few days of posts, I think people seem to not realize that he jumps from email account to email account. I know that’s how he got one of my (rarely used) email addresses to start with. It makes it difficult because you can’t freely share info with other posters via email. I highly recommend creating dummy accounts to use for those exchanges – and the registration on the site – and make sure the passwords are changed regularly.

  203. Chip April 21st, 2014 at 9:04 am

    I find it hard to believe that the Yankees would deal for another pitcher. Tanaka and Pineda have pitched very well and, while Pineda’s shoulder is going to be a worry all season long, at this point the Yankees are looking for a 5th starter. Phelps, Nuno or Greene should be able to fill that.

  204. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 9:05 am

    Shame,

    I just got into the “dummy account” game. Very freeing.

  205. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 9:05 am

    Nice redemption walk by Anna, btw. I couldn’t believe Joe pinch ran for Derek and it looked even worse when Ichiro was tagged out. Then Anna makes that error and you kinda felt like the writing was on the wall. To be honest, had that pitcher nibbled just a little less, he probably would’ve gotten Anna to strike out, since he was ready to swing at a ball in the dirt a foot off of the plate.

  206. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2014 at 9:05 am

    :arrow:

  207. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2014 at 9:07 am

    But it rankles me that Glen-Chicken-Fred-Stanley felt he had to stop posting in this place because of security concerns.

  208. Yankee Trader April 21st, 2014 at 9:10 am

    Thanks for the link Shame.

    While I don’t believe the Yankees will look to trade for another starter now, with replacements for fifth starter readily available, at some point Pineda is likely to reach a point where the number if innings pitched this season, will make the Yankees uncomfortable, to push him any further. He pitched something like 42.3 innings all of last season.

    It’ll be interesting to see how Tanaka and Pineda pitch in Fenway.

  209. JimK April 21st, 2014 at 9:26 am

    liquifilm, I watched the replays and while some of the examples are not as blatant as the author implies some of the video replays support the author’s argument. In the first video the fielder hit the wall and took several steps towards home before dropping the ball. The same could be said for Almonte’s sliding catch; after making the catch he stood up to make the throw and that is when he dropped the ball. On both occasions these plays seemed to me to be the NFL equivalent of making a “football move” while still in possession of the ball.
    A review of the other examples were not as clear cut, and a “no catch” called seemed correct.
    Although, I cited the NFL example, there is one significant difference, in baseball the fielder needs to release the ball as quickly as possible, while a football player only needs to maintain possession. This fact makes it much harder to judge possession, especially since with men on base, the fielders obligation is to get rid of the ball as quickly as possible. The umps should assume possession unless there is clear and convincing evidence that shows the fielder did not actually have “secure possession” of the ball. Right now the umpires are assuming the fielder did not have “secure possession” simply because he dropped the ball when transferring it from his glove hand to his throwing hand. They could make the same call if, after the catch, the fielder makes an errant throw.

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