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Pregame notes: “There’s nothing lost in translation”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 24, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter, Michael Pineda

Michael Pineda has accepted a 10-game suspension. He said he understands that he broke the rules, and this is the punishment. He’ll basically have to miss one start. The part that’s still a little hard to figure out is what exactly the Yankees told Pineda after he was basically caught doing the same thing two weeks ago. Pineda said it was a last second decision between the first and second innings that he decided it was worth the risk of using pine tar.

At one point he said he understood that he might be suspended for using it, but another time he said that he wasn’t sure what would happen if he were caught.

“I tried to put it in my neck, just a little bit,” he said. “I make a mistake again and put in too much and everybody (could) see it. It’s my mistake, you know? I feel so sad and I feel bad for that.”

Pineda said that his conversations with the Yankees coaching staff after the previous incident were in English, which led to natural questions for Joe Girardi about why the Yankees didn’t use a translator to make sure Pineda understood what he could and could not do. Girardi, though, refused to go into details. He hinted that the Yankees did use a translator, but he wouldn’t explain exactly what or how Pineda was told.

“I know there’s the assumption that Michael always understands the questions (from the media) fully and I’m going to stick to (what I’ve always said),” Girardi said. “The conversations and who’s in the room when we have the conversations, you’re probably not going to be privy to. But my coaching staff, the front office, myself, we’re very thorough and we make sure that when we want to get a message across, there’s nothing lost in translation.”

Here’s what Pineda said about those conversations after the start two weeks ago, and about why he took the chance again last night.

“The first time (after the April 10 game), they talked to me and (explained) what’s going to happen,” Pineda said. “I said OK, I understand. Last night I make a mistake because I no really feel the ball in the first inning. I was scared for hitting somebody on the other team, you know? I used it because I want to make a good pitch in the game and I want to pitch the game. It’s pine tar, but the pine tar did not help me throw more hard. It helped me for feeling more grip on the mound.”

Obviously the vast majority of today’s pregame questions were about Pineda and the fallout from the pine tar incident. The 10-game suspension starts tonight, and Girardi said he’s not worried that Pineda has always used pine tar and will now have to learn to pitch without it.

“No, there isn’t a thought like that for me,” Girardi said. “Obviously he hasn’t probably pitched in a ton of cold-weather games. Seattle is cold, but it’s nothing like what we had here last night. He probably hasn’t experienced a lot of it, so we’ll continue to educate him how to do things and just see what happens.”

David Phelps• With Pineda suspended, the Yankees have to carry a 24-man roster for the next 10 games. They don’t get to replace Pineda, he just fills an unusable spot on the roster. Girardi said the Yankees will obviously keep Pineda throwing so that he stays prepared and stretched out.

• Girardi would not say definitively, but it certainly sounds like David Phelps will start in Michael Pineda’s place next time through the rotation. “I haven’t talked to the specific guys so I don’t want to give you anything,” Girardi said. “But that would be a good way to lean.” Girardi said the Yankees will definitely use Monday’s off day so that they only have to fill the rotation spot once. That means everyone will pitch on normal five days rest next week instead of getting an extra day. Girardi said Phelps can probably go 75 pitches when his turns comes around.

• The Yankees added two extra pitchers and lost their backup shortstop today. “We felt that needed a couple of pitchers,” Girardi said. “Phelpsy is not available. Then we don’t really have a true guy who can give you any distance down there. It’s not the spot that you want to be in, but we felt that Solarte, he can play shortstop a day or two if we need him to and he gives you a little bit more options being a switch hitter.”

• Bruce Billings has been starting in Triple-A, so he’s plenty stretched out. Shane Greene was scheduled to start today and said he probably would have gone three or four innings. He hasn’t gotten stretched out yet this season because of a rather weird opening month when he’s gone from extended spring training to the big leagues to Triple-A and back to the big leagues. Last time he pitched, Greene went an inning and two-thirds out of the Triple-A bullpen.

• Brendan Ryan got five at-bats today. Girardi said he’s still probably a week away from joining the team, so the Yankees will likely go with Yangervis Solarte as their backup shortstop for a few games until Ryan is ready to be activated. Girardi said he would be willing to start Solarte if he wanted to give Derek Jeter a day off.

• On Ivan Nova’s decision to have Tommy John surgery: “I think it’s the right decision,” Girardi said. “I haven’t really seen anyone rehab a partially torn ligament and have success. It seems what it does is just delay the inevitable of what’s going to happen. Then instead of maybe missing a year and a little bit of time, you miss a couple of years.”

• Girardi said he will not be suspended by Major League Baseball for twisting an ESPN camera so that it couldn’t film the Yankees tunnel last night. “I’m fine with MLB; MLB’s fine with me,” Girardi said. “I have an issue, though, with going down into the tunnel. I think that’s flat wrong. It’s meant for the dugout. I know everyone wants access but there has to be some areas that we can go where we can actually communicate with players that there’s not a microphone hearing us or a camera watching lips. I mean, we have to have some privacy.”

• The Red Sox have activated Shane Victorino from the disabled list. He’s playing right field and batting second tonight.

• As he said last night, Girardi said he feels no need to treat the Red Sox any differently after the Pineda ejection. “No, no,” Girardi said. “I think John Farrell was put in a tough spot. He was put in a tough spot a couple of weeks ago. So I have no ill will towards John. If they feel it’s that obvious, I mean, they have to do something.”

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208 Responses to “Pregame notes: “There’s nothing lost in translation””

  1. Jerkface April 24th, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    I said that the Rays games this past weekend were the most embarrassing losses of the season but actually the pinetar game has taken that cake. I hope the Yankees can win tonight if nothing else than to wash out that sour taste in all our mouths.

  2. DocTodd April 24th, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Anybody know when DRob is coming back??

  3. longtimefan April 24th, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Pineda broke the rule and got caught, deserves the punishment, Someone should tell Girardi that his blinking when lying is a dead give away. Every time he spins an untruth he blinks!

  4. exiledintampa April 24th, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    • As he said last night, Girardi said he feels no need to treat the Red Sox any differently after the Pineda ejection.

    They were scum before and nothing’s changed. Treat’um like the scum they’ve always been
    I know, not the Garardi way.

  5. Tyler April 24th, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    As he said last night, Girardi said he feels no need to treat the Red Sox any differently after the Pineda ejection. “No, no,” Girardi said. “I think John Farrell was put in a tough spot. He was put in a tough spot a couple of weeks ago. So I have no ill will towards John. If they feel it’s that obvious, I mean, they have to do something.”
    —————————————————————-

    I agree with all of this but I hope this doesn’t mean that Girardi is just going to sit on the bench the next time Buchholz pitches against the Yanks….

  6. BoJo April 24th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    DocTodd April 24th, 2014 at 6:05 pm
    Anybody know when DRob is coming back??
    —-
    Yes

  7. exiledintampa April 24th, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Bojo LOL

  8. Against All Odds April 24th, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    I know, not the Garardi way.

    ————————

    Players get hit don’t worry it’s ok.

    Pineda screws up with the pine tar and Farrell has pitches that do the same but don’t worry it’s ok

  9. Against All Odds April 24th, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    but I hope this doesn’t mean that Girardi is just going to sit on the bench the next time Buchholz pitches against the Yanks

    ———-

    Of course he will. Triple said it more than once last night don’t expect any tit for tat from the Yankees.

  10. Mottsx April 24th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    How come the cameras caught lackey but girardi didn’t get the relayed messages ? Cashman was busy working on his press release ?

  11. DONNYBROOK April 24th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    I do No understand why the Yankees can Not replace Pineda on their roster? A team can replace a player on their roster, when said player is suspended for violating the Drug Policy. Punishing the entire team by making them play a man short for 10 days, for the act of 1 player, (Pineda), makes no sense.

  12. Ys Guy April 24th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    since the yankees likely aren’t going to even need a replacement for pineda, i don’t really care about the roster spot. i expect at least one rainout next week.

  13. Mottsx April 24th, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Mlb is run by monkeys

  14. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    “Obviously he hasn’t probably pitched in a ton of cold-weather games. Seattle is cold, but it’s nothing like what we had here last night. He probably hasn’t experienced a lot of it, so we’ll continue to educate him how to do things and just see what happens.””

    What I said. In addition, Seattle has the dome for whenever it’s needed, Texas and California are not cold-weather states. Have I forgotten anyone in the AL West?

    Sometimes the straight-forward truth is actually true!

  15. Mottsx April 24th, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    If jeter breaks a nail then what ?

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    I absolutely believe that Girardi will check out Chucky, Tazawa, Lester, and everybody else when we play them. I don’t think he will necessarily make a lot of fanfare. He’ll probably have cameras checking them out thoroughly. But if they do suspect something, I think Girardi will quietly ask the umps to check it out. He doesn’t need to grandstand to accomplish an end.

  17. Tyler April 24th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    I think Pineda had pine tar with the dome closed in Toronto also?

  18. DONNYBROOK April 24th, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    If a team can replace a player on their roster that is suspended for Failing a Drug Test, the Yanks should be permitted to replace Pineda on their 25 Man Roster. Totally inconsistent.

  19. Mottsx April 24th, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Mlb is one of the worst run leagues all the care about is profit . Think underpants Gnomes episode from south park .

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    “If a team can replace a player on their roster that is suspended for Failing a Drug Test, the Yanks should be permitted to replace Pineda on their 25 Man Roster. Totally inconsistent.”

    Kay pointed out the same thing, and Torre kind of shrugged and said it was a good point and they probably should talk about it.

    Incompetence personified.

  21. Mottsx April 24th, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    The entire rule book needs to be revamped.

  22. sammiejohnson April 24th, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    “Seattle has the dome for whenever it’s needed”

    Safeco Field (Seattle) has a retractable roof but it is not an enclosed dome. The temperature inside is the same as the temperature outside no matter if the roof is open or closed.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Is Rogers Centre temperature controlled? I’ve never been to a domed stadium so don’t know whether it’s heated, what the inside temperature is as opposed to the outside, etc.

  24. UnKnown April 24th, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    :roll:

  25. sammiejohnson April 24th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    “Is Rogers Centre temperature controlled?”

    I think it is, but never having been there I am not 100% certain.

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Rogers Centre is the same way, Sammy. Retractable roof. It’s not an enclosed dome.

    The temperature in Toronto the day Pineda pitched was 39 degrees.

    Oh well!

    :)

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Again, I don’t know enough about domed structures and retractable roof structures to know what the situation is inside, but it does seem that domed structures would certainly be a lot warmer because they are self-enclosed and probably built with lots of insulation.

    Retractable roofs merely protect from the elements, I would think.

  28. Jerkface April 24th, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Rogers Centre is the same way, Sammy. Retractable roof. It’s not an enclosed dome.

    The temperature in Toronto the day Pineda pitched was 39 degrees.

    Oh well!

    Unfortunately for your point the rogers center is climate controlled.

  29. sammiejohnson April 24th, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Trisha,

    Shows how much I know. I only know about Safeco because it is the closest MLB stadium to me and to see an MLB game in person, it is where I have to travel to (only 7 hours one way by car).

  30. sammiejohnson April 24th, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Hey, I was actually correct. Thanks Jerkface.

  31. pete2 April 24th, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Is Rogers Centre temperature controlled? I’ve never been to a domed stadium so don’t know whether it’s heated, what the inside temperature is as opposed to the outside, etc.
    ==================

    68 deg inside the closed retractable dome per box score on mlb.com in Pinedas game. Not cold, not hot enough to sweat much. Perfect conditions for a pitcher to have a great grip on the ball.

  32. Jerkface April 24th, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    There are 2 different types of retractable roof stadiums. Those where they are open air with a roof that is only designed to protect against rain. And those that can be fully enclosed. Toronto, when enclosed, is 72 degrees regardless of outside temperature.

    Safeco field is not climated controlled, when the roof moves in place there are still open air pathways.

    “Safeco Field has a unique retractable roof that only acts as an “umbrella” for the stands and field rather than forming a complete climate-controlled enclosure, as is the case with all other retractable roofs in Major League Baseball. Seattle’s relatively mild climate means the park rarely needs to be heated or cooled, but frequent precipitation necessitated a roof”

  33. sammiejohnson April 24th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Yup, it do rain lots over there.

  34. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 24th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Thanks jerkface and pete2. That’s why I asked the question. I wasn’t sure whether Rogers was climate controlled.

    No wonder they had the roof closed. It was 39 degrees outside that day!

    ;)

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