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Game 23: Yankees (13-9) vs. Angels (10-11)

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Apr 25, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees lineup

1. Jacoby Ellsbury CF

2. Derek Jeter SS

3. Carlos Beltran RF

4. Alfonso Soriano DH

5. Mark Teixeira 1B

6. Brian McCann C

7. Brett Gardner LF

8. Brian Roberts 2B

9. Yangervis Solarte 3B

Hiroki Kuroda RHP

 

Angels lineup

1. J.B. Shuck LF

2. Mike Trout CF

3. Albert Pujols 1B

4. Raul Ibanez DH

5. Howie Kendrick 2B

6. Ian Stewart 3B

7. Erick Aybar SS

8. Hank Conger C

9. Collin Cowgill RF

C.J. Wilson LHP

 

Umpires: C.B. Bucknor HP, Hal Gibsonn 1B, Bill Welke 2B, Dan Iassogna 3B

TV/Radio: YES/WFAN 660, 101.9

Weather: Partly cloudy, a chilly 53

 

Winning ways: The Yankees have won eight of their last 11 and 13 of 20 after starting 0-2.

Hot bats: The Yankees have a major-league best 59 extra-base hits since April 8.

 

Update, 7:18: Kuroda escapes after allowing two two-out singles.

Update, 7:29: Jeter walks, but otherwise a quiet first against Wilson.

Update, 7:41: Three runs, three hits so far in the second off Kuroda.

Update, 7:53: Infield hit and stolen base by Gardner with two outs, but Roberts goes down looking.

Update, 8:06: Not one of Kuroda’s better days. Two-run homer by Stewart, off the top of the wall in center and over, 5-0. Angels now have eight hits here in the third after Aybar’s single.

Update, 8:18: The Yankees go down 1-2-3. Girardi said they got in at 3 a.m. It looks like it right now. Still time to wake up.

Update, 8:27: Finally a 1-2-3 inning for Kuroda.

Update, 8:37: Wilson continues to look sharp, one infield hit and two walks allowed through four. He came in 3-0 with a 2.03 ERA against the Yankees since joining the Angels’ cause in 2012.

Update, 8:40: Pujols hits a nothing pitch a mile to left, No. 501. It’s 6-0 in the fifth. His ninth homer of April, matches Brian Downing’s franchise record.

Update, 8:48: Beltran botches a fly ball in right, 7-0, Kuroda is done. Billings is on. YES had a stat that seven runs is the most Kuroda has given up in a home start with the Yankees.

Update, 8:51: Conger greets Billings with RBI double, 8-0. This is Billings’ first MLB appearance since he was here with the A’s on Aug. 25, 2011.

Update, 9:00: Gardner singles, Roberts erases him 4-6-3, Solarte pops out, long night for the Yankees.

Update, 9:08: Billings has 1-2-3 sixth with two Ks.

Update, 9:17: The Yankees finally nick Wilson for a run. Single by Jeter, Double by Beltran. Sac fly by Soriano, 8-1 Angels in the sixth.

Update, 9:36: Billings serves up a three-run homer to Aybar, 11-1 in the seventh.

Update, 9:40: Billings gives up a solo shot to Cowgill, 12-1 Angels. They have 14 hits. Angels have a club-record 35 March/April HRs.

Update, 9:44: Wilson is done after six, one run, four hits. Nick Maronde takes over. Pujols comes out as well.

Update, 9:57: McCann playing first base now, among several changes for the eighth.

Update, 10:04: Starting to rain. Good thing there are only about five people left here. Maybe a little more than five, but you get the point. If this were Twitter, it would be #hurryupandfinish Ernesto Frieri is on to pitch the last of the eighth, still 12-1.

Update, 10:18: Shawn Kelley comes on with two outs and nobody on in the ninth.

Update, 10:21: Billings was at 76 pitches, I believe. Kelley gives up a double and an RBI single, 13-1.

Update, 10:33: Yankees lose 13-1.

 

 

 

 

 

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247 Responses to “Game 23: Yankees (13-9) vs. Angels (10-11)”

  1. backbench April 25th, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    What is the over/under for Jeter errors tonight?

  2. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Heyman in for chad today?

  3. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    I’m out….

  4. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Hey Man!

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    0/0

    :)

    ************

    My favorite broadcasters are Coney and Al Lieter, in terms of former players.

  6. J. Alfred Prufrock April 25th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    Yankeefem said:

    They had no idea what kind of stuff he had. The comparisons to Brackman were laughable. No way the Yankees too didn’t realize how good his arm was.
    ///

    It’s odd that even Cone, who is razor sharp and seems to do his research, made reference to Betances as “not just a guy with only a big fastball anymore…”

    That’s like an insane statement; Betances is actually further diminished in his repertoire than ever before.

    When we saw him, he was throwing his four seamer, a cut fastball, a two-seamer, his knuckle curve and that high curve, and that great change.

    Now, he’s throwing fastballs and curve and that slurvy pitch, and a once-in-a-blue-moon change.

    The most inappropriate comparison that got volleyed around here was that Betances was like AJ Burnett, a guy who, when he misses, gets positively hammered. When Betances is giving up line drives or even flyouts, it’s the unusual occurrence.

    What makes him separate from those other guys is that the fastball is just so hard to square up, he doesn’t even have to locate well to induce poor contact.

    Guys like Phelps, Warren and Nuno have to be precise or they’re going to get hit. Betances doesn’t get hit, and he’s also got plus secondary stuff, so he’s a much better candidate for multiple innings.

    Given how unhittable he has proven to be as a starter and against high pedigree hitters at every level he’s been to, it just makes no good sense to me that, having achieved more than a modicum of consistent control and having simplified the delivery, they wouldn’t give it one more try.

    It’d be one thing if he were really Brackman, a guy who has just as much of a height advantage (he’s actually even taller) but who does not get the same downward plane to his fastball and who doesn’t have the plus change to go with a fastball/curve combo.

    Given the possible reward, you take the risk. They have enough arms with the potential to function in shorter stints: Burawa, when he gets healthy, they’ve got Montgomery and his slider, not sure what’s up with Pinder, but he can throw 97 down in the zone when he’s on… they have these guys and even if they did not, they are still failing to take advantage of the fact that if Betances has found something that can translate back to starting – as he himself felt he did – then they have themselves that commodity that is at such a premium: a young, homegrown, front-end starter who can dominate and who will cost very little.

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Michelle, he has a few pinch hitters here.

  8. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Hijack.

  9. Mottsx April 25th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    I’m at the game and have three words lobels steak fries . That is all oh and guiness

  10. Doreen April 25th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    J. Al and yankeefeminista,

    Question: do you think the Yankees might care too much about winning at the lower levels?

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    Mottsx – you’re making me hungry.

  12. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    raul is ageless.

  13. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    motts you gots a few hundies?

  14. tomingeorgia April 25th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    Anybody notice Kuroda going to the bill of his cap every pitch? Good for him.

  15. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    as long as its done with class mr tom..

  16. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Wilson, too! Everyone does it!

  17. Jerkface April 25th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    CJ Wilson’s pants are riding right up into his butt

  18. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    this umps name is Frank Drebin.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock April 25th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Doreen April 25th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    J. Al and yankeefeminista,

    Question: do you think the Yankees might care too much about winning at the lower levels?
    ///

    I’m not sure what the context is here, but genereally, I think all is subordinate to winning at the ML level (which I don’t disagree with).

    What happens, I think, is that they care too much about what they believe will help them win NOW at the potential sacrifice of more enduring success in the future, and that is why there is such a dearth of young talent on the ML club and they are forced to sign other people’s players for premium dollars. “$189″ has been the response to an extremely inefficient farm system.

  20. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Looks like they have the B team on the cameras tonight.

  21. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Frank Drebin ,,,,,give it about 49 sec then watch to end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Ce_FQtJkY

  22. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    what did jeter do?

  23. Doreen April 25th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    J. al,

    It just simply occurred to me as a question. I mean, it’s difficult for me to explain what I mean here, but basically, could the perceived impatience with their prospects have anything to do with competing goals of development and also having teams in the system that compete?

    I know they are in this difficult spot as far as the ML team s concerned. That they have to make decisions for the now. That’s not my question.

  24. Mottsx April 25th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Best $15 I ever spent for fries I feel like I need to give birth now

  25. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    I think I’ll bake a trifle..

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock April 25th, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Doreen,

    I think that collective winning in the minors is the least of their priorities.

  27. Tar April 25th, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    “Best $15 I ever spent for fries I feel like I need to give birth now”.

    If it’s a boy, Call him Spud.

  28. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Rule 9 April 25th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Mark Buehrle was having a renaissance season until tonight.
    ========================

    He is costing me 100K in the daily league. Fortunately I have another team w/o him.

  29. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    “I think I’ll bake a trifle..”

    You’ll make history if you do!

  30. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    What were we saying about infield defense….

  31. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    That play has to be made. The infield defense is a disaster and doesn’t make 2-3 plays a game that they should.

  32. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    You could bake the sponge cake for the trifle, but I wouldn’t throw the whole thing in there. That would be messy.

  33. Doreen April 25th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    J Al

    Thanks.

  34. Tar April 25th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    F’in Aybar

  35. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Kuroda has to get the ball down or he will get tattooed

  36. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Game is going to get over with, quick.

  37. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    see

  38. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Everything is up in the zone from Kuroda

  39. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Well I’m gonna take a nap…

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Wonder if the Yanks are feeling the same post Sux lethargy that I am.

  41. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    “You could bake the sponge cake for the trifle, but I wouldn’t throw the whole thing in there. That would be messy.”

    ;)

  42. tomingeorgia April 25th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Mr. mick,
    You don’t bake a trifle, except for the sponge cake.

  43. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Kuroda is quite mediocre he should know when the yankees face a decent pitched it’s 1 run or go home.

  44. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Sux punishing the Jays for what we did to them. That’s like going home and kicking the dog.

  45. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Why can’t we do the safety squeeze?

  46. xcv April 25th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    kuroda looks done and it’s not even may yet.

  47. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Sux punishing the Jays for what we did to them. That’s like going home and kicking the dog.
    =================

    Buehrle must have been using smoke and mirrors against everyone else

  48. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    kuroda looks done and it’s not even may yet.
    ============
    so does my trifle.

  49. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Jeez
    It’s too soon for another fight less fade

  50. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    is this guy gonna stand us on our heads tonie?
    leftys in the stadium theory.

  51. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Yankees are 7-3 against LHP’ers this year, 6-3 at home, the numbers say tonights a Win

  52. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Well, at least a few more runs and Betances can pitch, if the game is enough out of reach for girardi!

  53. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    if he doesn’t steal. He’s bad

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    “Buehrle must have been using smoke and mirrors against everyone else”

    Smoke, mirrors, and pine tar perhaps?

    *************

    Whoever kept trying to tell me that the games at fenway weren’t cold – you’re full of it! Jeter said those were some of the coldest games he remembers. So there.

    pete2, something makes me think is was you, in your basic contrarian mood!

    ;)

  55. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    So I made my plans for New York. Going late July Derek Jeter bobble head night

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Games after the Sux-Ys series always see to go this way, especially when the Ys have had their way with the Sux. It’s like some kind of let down.

  57. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Johnson should be playing 2nd base everyday over Roberts. He has some pop in his bat and he is a better defender. Roberts makes too many errors and hasn’t hit a lick.

  58. michaellord6 April 25th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Michelle,

    what is the date of the Jeter bobble head night? And who are we facing?

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    “So I made my plans for New York. Going late July Derek Jeter bobble head night”

    Great night to go, Michelle. Good for you.

  60. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Texas July 21

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    “Roberts makes too many errors and hasn’t hit a lick.”

    201 for the season

    267 in the last 7 games

    400 last night.

    I know those are close, if not right on the money because I quoted them this morning.

    :)

  62. mick April 25th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    jeter head night? that will be a full house, get there early…

  63. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    “Buehrle must have been using smoke and mirrors against everyone else”

    Smoke, mirrors, and pine tar perhaps?

    *************

    Whoever kept trying to tell me that the games at fenway weren’t cold – you’re full of it! Jeter said those were some of the coldest games he remembers. So there.

    pete2, something makes me think is was you, in your basic contrarian mood!

    ;)

    =========================

    Jeter has spent winters in Florida for the last decade, and threw the ball like my sister. He probably was cold. You feel it more as you age.

  64. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    One day Kay is gong to say “past the diving IF”

  65. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    kuroda is not the same.

  66. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    bingo

  67. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Kuroda is starting to worry me

  68. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    We’ll
    Looks like I have an open Friday night now

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Come on pete2. The guy never complains. You could see the wind whipping their uniforms. And I could feel how cold it was here with the wind blowing. Jeter said he felt like he was picking up the ball with cement, something like that (meaning that’s what his glove felt like.)

  70. austinmac April 25th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Michelle,

    That’s a day you figure Derek is going to play.photos and a bobble head.

  71. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Kuroda isnt using the stuff tonight – no one is using the stuff tonight — geez – the red sox have screwed every pitcher in MLB

  72. RadioKev April 25th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Yuck

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    I think I’ll take this to the car and go and get me some grub.

    Later.

  74. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Kuroda gonna get someone hurt out there

  75. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    And there it is. I can focus on some work at least

  76. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    i like the way kay mixes that “aforementioned” in there when he feels like it.

  77. cofuzz April 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Ouch.
    My fantasy heart is being torn out along with my Yankee heart.
    And my brother, whose loyalties followed Reggie Jackson to Anaheim is basking in early game glory (and my fantasy suffering.)

  78. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    If kuroda was a reliever, he’d come in after betances

  79. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    you eat in your car?

  80. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    is betances ready?

  81. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Kuroda has a hard time battling to keep them in the game. When he doesn’t have it he gets tattooed.

  82. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Maybe wang should go back down to AAA and see if he can find it again

  83. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Austinmac – I’ve seen teams do weirder things – Like hand out bobbleheads of a player who was traded 2 weeks before – But i figured if Jeter was going to play on one night of that series it’s got to be the bobblehead night.

    Anyone have any insight on a place to stay – I have friends who live in Paramus, and ft. lee. I have a cousin who has a great place in the west village. That’s where I’ll start – but not sure any of them have enough space.

  84. xcv April 25th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    kuroda looking like hideous nomo in his final couple of seasons in the states.

    should have taken heed his lousy performance in the 2nd half of last year.

  85. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Come on pete2. The guy never complains. You could see the wind whipping their uniforms. And I could feel how cold it was here with the wind blowing. Jeter said he felt like he was picking up the ball with cement, something like that (meaning that’s what his glove felt like.)
    ======================

    I will concede it was windier in the IF and mound last night than the night Pineda pitched, primarily because the wind direction changed and was blowing in while it was not blowing in when Pineda pitched and the wind was blocked.

    What can I say, I used to shovel snow in my shorts. I don’t deny Jeter was cold, but he is old and not used to it anymore

  86. cofuzz April 25th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Maybe the rain can come a little early?
    I know the Fresno Grizzlies are rained out…

  87. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Kuroda isnt using the stuff tonight – no one is using the stuff tonight — geez – the red sox have screwed every pitcher in MLB
    =============

    CJ Wilson obviously did not get the message. Girardi should challenge him

  88. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    don’t you love the igt?

  89. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    the stuff will be legal soon enough…it just hasn’t been invented yet.

  90. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Feel bad for the folks who stretched to afford tix to go to this game

  91. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    o’neill is extra corny tonite.

  92. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Ok this is pretty cool. In 36 ABs this year, Kyle Roller has 7 homers and an OPS of over 1.500! Two dingers tonight.

  93. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Kuroda not good this year. Need to take one for the team and give us 6-7 innings. Save bullpen for tomorrow for my boy Nuno.

  94. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    can someone wipe some pinetar on kurodas jersey?

  95. yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    I see that Selig did an interview today with sports editors. A bigger jackass there has never been. Assuming the Yankees can keep that other idiot Manfred out of the job, we may, after more than 20 years get a fair shake from MLB.
    His hard on for Alex aside, the thing I will never forgive Selig for is the way he treated the Yankees titles like they were bad for baseball. No Bud, YOU are bad for baseball

  96. yankeefeminista April 25th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Josh Norris@jnorris427 2m
    #Yankees RHP Bryan Mitchell also has inflammation in his elbow. He had an MRI that came back clean. Not terribly concerning at this point.

  97. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    yankeefeminista April 25th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Josh Norris@jnorris427 2m
    #Yankees RHP Bryan Mitchell also has inflammation in his elbow. He had an MRI that came back clean. Not terribly concerning at this point.

    =========================

    MRI’s don’t detect every tear, but its probably nothing.

  98. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    pete2 – MRI’s detect every tear – It’s the people reading them that sometimes dont.

  99. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Eerie how hot and cold our offense is

  100. rm April 25th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 8:29 pm
    I see that Selig did an interview today with sports editors. A bigger jackass there has never been
    ———–

    I think you forgot how bad Bowie Kuhn was

  101. pkyankfan69 April 25th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Should have saved some of yesterdays runs for today… Looks like we’re sleep walking through this one… Meh

  102. rm April 25th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Apparently the angels lose all of their games in the 9th so they still have a chance

  103. pkyankfan69 April 25th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    At least Poo-holes helped out my fantasy team

  104. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    They’ll get more runs than we get baserunners

  105. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    can someone wipe some pinetar on kurodas jersey??

  106. yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    No I didn’t
    It just seems that Selig is nastier. The 96 through 03 Yanks will never get the credit they deserve because of the designed campaign, led by Selig to smear their accomplishments.
    Also, while I am in the minority on this, I believe ARod should have gotten no more than 50 games and Selig went crazy with the penalty because the player is so unpopular with fans and media.
    I believe the Yankees should never allow Selig in their stadium.

  107. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    can someone wipe some pinetar on kurodas jersey?????

  108. Hassey April 25th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    It’s a good thing his last twenty starts are only a small sample size

  109. pkyankfan69 April 25th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Michael Kay referring to the 28 year old Bruce Billings as the “youngster out in the BP”

    No Michael, Billings isn’t a youngster, he’s just in the minors because he sucks.

  110. Poetkiosk April 25th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    wow…just got in. UGLY….what happend? Is kuroda done?

  111. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    yes

  112. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Ichiro should be the everyday RFer. It’s amazing how many balls Beltran and Soriano misplay or can’t get to that Ichiro would make easy. It’s ridiculous how bad this team’s defense is.

  113. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Beltran is a bad fielder.

  114. rm April 25th, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 8:42 pm
    No I didn’t

    ————
    Do you remember Vida Blue as a yankee?

  115. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    makes swisher look good

  116. Mottsx April 25th, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    I just argued with someone about throwing the ball back on a home run

  117. pkyankfan69 April 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Look on the bright side… At least Betances will get some work after Billings is done

  118. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    get betances up..

  119. SweetSpot April 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Bad games happen to good teams and good pitchers. Kuroda just didn’t have his good stuff today and the command wasn’t there. And, the Angeles can rake. It’s just one game.

  120. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    pete2 – MRI’s detect every tear – It’s the people reading them that sometimes dont.
    ==============

    Point being that a diagnosis of a clean MRI is not something you can take to the bank. I have heard so many times an MRI comes back clean and surgery is still needed. The physical testing is probably more conclusive according to Dr Andrews who cautions against using the MRI for a definitive diagnosis one way or another

  121. Poetkiosk April 25th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    so our SP is down to Tanaka and?

  122. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    might as well sit jete, move solarte to ss and kj to 3rd
    sit bells, get icchi man

  123. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Yankees have mastered the art of losing ugly. They win some nice ones to make up for it though

  124. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Wow, baseball sure is a funny game. Yanks starting pitching all of a sudden doesn’t look so great does it? Tanaka is an ace. And CC looks like he’s rounding out into maybe a three or four. But what else is there? The mirage that may be Pineda has looked really good but one and half games. We have no idea what’s there or what will be there. Kuroda is awful right now, ERA over 5.00.

    My boy Nuno has to step up. I said a few days ago I thought he be the Yanks second best pitcher by late summer if he stayed healthy. I might have been off by a few months.

  125. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    So when someone said they were worried about Kuroda, did you mean worried as in thinking he could be hurt?

  126. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    angels get a 3 run inning out of a bunt and a ground ball…can the yanks do that?

  127. mick April 25th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    no, just old..

  128. Yankees_Fan April 25th, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Im liking this season so far, but Im not loving two trends:

    1. Yanks seem to alternate one or two good wins with a conplete atrocious stinker. This game is UGLY and we have seen lots of that lately.

    2. Where is the Yankees comeback drive? Once the other team grabs a lead, they seem to be unstoppablr adding runs, while the Yanks suddenly go quiet. They have had nice scoring games, so they can score, but whenever they are down, they stay laying on the ground. Get some few runs and make it look like you are trying!!!

  129. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Nothing measurably different about HK’s stuff.

    He just isn’t locating.

    When you don’t locate against a good hitting Team you get hurt.

  130. Yankees_Fan April 25th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    I dont really care much for Roberts, really…

  131. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Published: December 24, 1983

    Reprints

    Commissioner Bowie Kuhn, putting an expensive end to the pine-tar affair, has fined George Steinbrenner and the Yankees $250,000. The fine is believed to be the largest ever assessed a sports team and an owner.

    He also banned Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays for their association with a casino

  132. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    pete2 – i was joking with you – but as long as we’re on the subject – it depends on where the problem is, in the shoulder – probably an MRI is not going to conclusive – In the Knee it most likely will be – Depends on a lot of factors – swelling, muscle size, location of the tear.

  133. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    This is pathetic…They can’t even score a freaking run against Wilson??! His stuff is so average.

  134. SweetSpot April 25th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Wilson is a good pitcher.

  135. NYY fan in NH April 25th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Wow this team totally stinks tonight.. Quite a letdown coming off a good series

  136. Jerkface April 25th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    The Yankees have been really lucky to get #2 type performance out of Kuroda for his time as a Yankee. This might be the year that old age catches up to him and he ends up more #3/#4 type.

    They need an infielder, a starter, and a reliever. Hope cash has the phones greased up.

  137. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    So when someone said they were worried about Kuroda, did you mean worried as in thinking he could be hurt?
    ==================

    Maybe I should change my name to “someone”. I like it.

    My worry is Kuroda is pitching to start the year like he finished last year. He is 39 and his last 13 starts going back to last year he has a 6+ ERA. Whether that’s injury, age or just a bad stretch I can’t say.

  138. yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Rule 9, I agree. When it comes to the Yankees, I am a Pravda kind of guy.

  139. NYY fan in NH April 25th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Kuroda may be showing his age now folks

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    “This is pathetic…They can’t even score a freaking run against Wilson??! His stuff is so average.”

    His power may very well be on his neck. Or on his finger, a la CJ Nitkowski.

  141. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    I dont really care much for Roberts, really…
    ———

    He looks finished offensively and defensively. Too many injuries and he is old now.

  142. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Good to see a nice defensive play by Jeter

  143. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West April 25th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    pete2 – i was joking with you – but as long as we’re on the subject – it depends on where the problem is, in the shoulder – probably an MRI is not going to conclusive – In the Knee it most likely will be – Depends on a lot of factors – swelling, muscle size, location of the tear.
    ===============

    My joke detector needs recalibration. Last MRI I had showed foggy patches in my brain. I was supposed to go in to follow up and didn’t, but that was 20 yrs ago so the fog is probably much more widespread now, or maybe the MRI just can not handle alien life forms.

  144. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Bad game. Let’s lose by 10 runs. Get em tomorrow.

    The issue here is Kuroda. A real real concern now given his age and what happened last year.

    The Yanks need some creative thinking. There’s a guy in the bullpen who throw 93-94 gas with three secondary pitches he can all throw for strikes, two of which are legit swing and miss offerings. This guy, Warren, needs to find a way into the rotation. Girardi himself in spring training said he showed the best starter stuff of the entire staff in the Panama game, and that includes Tanaka.

    However you slice, Pineda is probably a limited contributor this season. Kuroda is very much a question mark now. The Yanks need to keep their starter options open.

  145. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Agree, Pete. A lot of people were willing to overlook Kuroda’s poor second half of the season and put it down to fatigue caused by carrying the pitching staff in the first half. It may just be that he doesn’t have much left in the tank.

    Yanks got in at 3am after an emotional series win in Boston; they needed Kuroda to keep the game close but instead, he just wasn’t the Mr. Reliable of a year ago.

  146. yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    How can the lousy bottom of the Angels order go 8 for 12 against Kuroda?
    Hopefully after 1 more cold weather game against Seattle, he can turn the clock back last May through August.
    The division is mediocre and I am inclined to dismiss Boston, Toronto and Tampa, but one thing that concerns me is we have zero hitters that are feared.

  147. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    That positive run differential was nice while it lasted

  148. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Time to start chipping away so we can hav a big 9th inning rally

  149. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    “My worry is Kuroda is pitching to start the year like he finished last year. He is 39 and his last 13 starts going back to last year he has a 6+ ERA. Whether that’s injury, age or just a bad stretch I can’t say.”

    He hauled a lot of wood last season. I wouldn’t put too much stock in his second half.

    This season he has allowed the following for ER: 2, 2, 4, 3.

    So tonight is definitely an aberration.

  150. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Good Lord I’m outnumbered here. The President, Secretary, and Treasurer of the Official Worriers Club, Doom and Gloom chapter, are here.

    :)

  151. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Soriano swing at strikes please….

  152. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Trenton just went ahead 11-10 in the top of the Ninth. This guy Roller is like Bonds. He’s two for two with two homers, two walks, one intentional. OPS up to 1.559 now. Plays first base too. Can somebody get into Tex’s hotel room tonight?

  153. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Did you “call it” in the fifth Trish?

  154. bbb51 April 25th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    If CC is going to be our second best pitcher we may need Tanaka to go 28-0 again.

  155. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Perspicacity Trisha.

    But he needs to start locating better.

    He’s been off the last 2 starts.

    Needs to make some sort of mechanical adjustment.

    ;)

  156. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    People don’t like, Rush I get that, but Alex Lifeson brings it!

  157. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    “Did you “call it” in the fifth Trish?”

    That I did.

    Did we win?

  158. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    MTU, I miss chicken!

  159. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Tonight.

  160. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    lets cut the lead to 8-4

  161. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Mills-

    I’m sorry he decided to move on as well.

  162. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    MTU – that’s reasonable.

    Question: Did his last start before this come after Pineda’s dirty hand game? If so, we might want to question whether Saturday night’s game has turned the Yankees upside down?

  163. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    ” Tonight ” is a great Elton John song.

  164. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    Someone should tell the angels that this guy bats .240 they can relax with the whole cover the lips charade

  165. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    “Did you “call it” in the fifth Trish?”

    “Tonight.”

    In fact no, because if I did, you would have heard me say it. On the other hand, I did call that the Yankees usually have a let down after they beat up the Sux.

  166. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    MTU, I’m determined to assist Sir chicken.

  167. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Must be boring being right all the time. I’m often wrong…it’s what makes me human.

  168. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    “I called this game at 8:04 p.m. Yeah me! Go me! Woohoo me! :lol:

    Called it what? Ours or over.

  169. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Yes you beat me by 2 mins, i was distracted!

  170. luis April 25th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Good evening guys,

    Not watching..Thank God I guess… Don’t want to rain down your parade..But this team is slightly better than last season..The good news is that the division is a lot weaker than it used to be..So i think we have a chance..But the team needs to address certain problems in order to have sustained success:

    1) Scouting and player development

    2) Patience with growing pains

    3) Get rid of the win “now” policy..For a win “more” policy

    4) Trade for young talent smartly and invest smartly in FA’s..

  171. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    “Must be boring being right all the time. I’m often wrong…it’s what makes me human.”

    Must be stressful worrying all the time about everything. I don’t worry. And I’m human.

  172. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Is the minor league day up on RAB yet? That’s the only thing to look forward to, besides girardi bringing betances in for 2 innings

  173. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    “I called this game at 8:04 p.m. Yeah me! Go me! Woohoo me! :lol:

    Much better I would say than calling entire seasons for entire cities before the season even begins.

    Woohoo weird!

    :lol:

  174. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    I make one comment that “no lead is safe” at Fenway Park and you construe it as “panicking.” I know for a fact that you’re a nice person, Trisha, but you sure know how to push the right buttons during a game thread. If you don’t want me to comment, I’ll happily leave.

  175. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Well, I will leave you all to analyze the team’s problems and worry about losing a game!

    :D

    Nighty night.

  176. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    “If you don’t want me to comment, I’ll happily leave.”

    bruceb – And I know you’re a nice person as well. But I beat you to the punch. I’m leaving first.

    ;)

  177. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    “I’m right much more often than not. :)

    Uh, sure you are. In your dreams!

    Bye.

  178. bruceb April 25th, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Tell you what, we’ll go together. Hope you’re missed more than I am. :)

  179. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    bruceb – don’t go! They’ll miss you more, I promise you. And seriously, you have others here who do worry about the team. I don’t have any “no sweat” company!

  180. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    Trisha-

    I just think Hiroki needs to figure out why he is not locating well.

    His 2-seamer had a lot of movement but was up in the zone.

    Last time out he had virtually no Mr. Splitty to work with.

    So he is having problems w various pitches on different occasions.

    This unusually cold weather can’t be helping.

    I’m confident he will figure things out and get it together.

    His velocity is fine.

  181. Captain Clutch April 25th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    I don’t know why they never pitch Kendrick inside. His swing is to RF and it amazes me every single time. Then they want to know why he kills them.

  182. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 25th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Thanks MTU.

    :)

    I really am leaving. I think the people here have the right to worry, voice concern, find things wrong with the team, and any other thing they want to do, without having me tell them otherwise. And since I know me too well, leaving is the right thing to do.

    ;)

  183. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    good evening all.

    Back in the coop! I think I over reacted to some security concerns and tightened up those things that I didn’t over react to.

    Plane just landed and checked the score… UGLY.

  184. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    I guess it might really be over now. Or it will be one heck of a comeback

  185. bbb51 April 25th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Enjoy the bus ride back, Bruce.

  186. luis April 25th, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    Chicken!!! clap,clap, clap… Good to have you back bro

  187. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    chicken, thank god! Me and Alex Lifeson are doing our best :)

  188. RYUKINGDOM April 25th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Where do these garbage pitchers come from?

  189. Jerkface April 25th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    86 mph fastball from a non 6’7 lefty are bad, I’ve just learned.

  190. Yankees_Fan April 25th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    We will finish with a -70 run differential this season the way things are going.

    Yanks know how to make a bad game an ugly one with lot of exclamation marks.

    This is really embarrassing. Dont care about the record right now, these showings are pathetic!

  191. RYUKINGDOM April 25th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Total garbage…We need to make some trades now….

  192. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Imagine how bad the comments would be if the Yankees weren’t in 1st place

  193. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    When you win big its called a laugher. What do you call losing big. A Howler? Bawler? Cryer?

  194. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    I still think Kuhn was much worse than Selig

  195. RYUKINGDOM April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Cashman. Get off the pinetar speeches and find some real pitchers.

  196. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Gerne Tenace has an amazing record. What ist it?

  197. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    How about Chicken. We can call losing big a Chicken of a game in honor of the resurrection of Chicken in such a game

  198. NYY fan in NH April 25th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    How can this team stink so damn bad after the night they just had? This is sickening!

  199. NYY fan in NH April 25th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    I mean this is completely embarrassing and starting to become a common thing with these blowouts

  200. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Baseball is a funny game… a couple of weeks ago, I was estatic about our rotation. Tanaka, and Pineda were lights out, Nova showing glimpses, Kuroda was Kuroda. Now, 1 pitcher down, 1 pitcher down and out, and 1 pitcher’s effectiveness uncertain

  201. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Gene Tenace. I cheated but thats impressive.

  202. rm April 25th, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    HRs in his first 2 WS at bats

  203. tomingeorgia April 25th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    chicken, good to see you!

  204. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Welcome back Glenn.

    Hope you are keeping your head down Luis.

    Just about time to call it an evening.

    Etch-A-Sketch game.

    ;)

  205. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    NYY fan in NH April 25th, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    How can this team stink so damn bad after the night they just had? This is sickening!
    ===============

    That’s the thing about baseball, you can’t read too much into any one game it will drive you nuts. Break it down into 10 game stretches to dampen the noise

  206. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm
    When you win big its called a laugher. What do you call losing big. A Howler? Bawler? Cryer?

    ————–

    greetings Pete2. Lets call it either a bawler or a crier… Howler seems like a pretty good dude :)

  207. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Damn. O’Brien another dinger tonight and a double. He leads the FSL in homers with eight and the guy who is second has four. His OPS is over 1.100 now in about 80 appearances.

    Now there’s a guy who needs tougher completion. What the hell got into this guy?

  208. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    greetings Tom… good to be back from a brief hiatus. How did the sale go?

  209. luis April 25th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    I wouldn’t write off Kuroda just yet..Certainly age might be the reason..But I think it is too early still to make such a call..

  210. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Hi Luis and Mike… good to see you guys

  211. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    My boy Nuno will right the ship tomorrow. Bullpen is rested. Bats need to show up a bit. Then Tanaka for the win Sunday night.

  212. Hankflorida April 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    Losing Nova is devastating as he is a pitcher who can give you innings and keep his pitch count low in the late innings with his sinker. Nova with Tanaka could have kept the bullpen rested for the other three starters. Let see what Phelps and Nuno can give us and hope for the best.

  213. MTU April 25th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    If you take the emotion out of it by thinking dispassionately.

    A loss is a loss.

    And a win is a win.

    It’s a 162 game season.

    Let’s say we bounce back tomorrow.

    Then we have a better than avg. chance of taking another series w MT on the bump.

    Night all.

    See you for the Breakfast Club.

  214. Yankees_Fan April 25th, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    One stinker is ok. Two in separate times could be tolerable. But man, it seems we have stinkers like tonight once every three games.

    Thats not good at all!

  215. luis April 25th, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    Good night MTU,

    Hope everything is fine down your end ;)

    Hank,

    Spot on…Losing Nova is devastating…

    Glenn,

    As I said on a earlier post…You are needed in here…Very happy to have you back

  216. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Welcome, Glenn Gould.

  217. luis April 25th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    YFan,

    As long as we keep on winning series, it doesn’t matter how we lose on those games…After such a disheartening loss (Pineda’s) we bounced back with a pretty solid effort…We are taking this series

  218. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Luis, me and Glenn Gould are always to see you! :)

  219. jmills April 25th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eIR7dXjMB88

    Roxanne!

  220. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Baseball is a funny game… a couple of weeks ago, I was estatic about our rotation. Tanaka, and Pineda were lights out, Nova showing glimpses, Kuroda was Kuroda. Now, 1 pitcher down, 1 pitcher down and out, and 1 pitcher’s effectiveness uncertain

    ——

    This was a bit of an illusion. Tanaka was awesome for sure and still is. Pineda was strong in ST with a questionable fastball against bad lineups. He was awesome his first start in Toronto and for the first four innings against Boston in NY and then turned into a pumpkin in the fifth inning and hasn’t been the same since. Lost 2 mph on his fastball and apparently can’t throw his best pitch without a lot of sticky stuff. Nova was rocked or was just hit really hard in all four of his starts.

    Now Kuroda is a disappointment no doubt. But Nuno is the real deal and has been pitching that way for about 14 months now. Uninterrupted but for injury. The Yanks have two other starters who may be more than capable in their bullpen as we speak.

    As John Lennon once said… “there are no problems. Only solutions.”

  221. willwill April 25th, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    Delin pitched on the 22nd, i suppose you could hold him till tomorrow and he not be too wild. But maybe it’s worth bringing him in the 9th, he really needs to pitch at least every 3 days

  222. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Nuno will have big test tomorrow. Angels are a tough team for a LHP’er. If he gets the job done I will rest a bit easier.

  223. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Bigdan – I’m a passenger on the Nuno train… have been since last year. I think he has (for lack of a better term, the “it” factor)… that said, I’m still worried about the rotation… losing Nova was devastating; Kuroda’s trend since mid season last year is disturbing; Pineda is a bit puzzling… on the positive side, CC seems to be coming around.

  224. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Want the hear something funny? I just checked the home run leader board for all AA leagues. The leader has 6. Kyle Roller in Trenton has 7 and of course would be the leader but he doesn’t have enough at bats to qualify.

  225. bigdan22 April 25th, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    All true CS, there’s a lot of uncertainty. But nothing ever goes as planned for a pitching staff even in championship seasons. Remember how Doc Gooden stepped up in ’96 for a couple months?

    The Yanks entered the season with some of the best starting pitching depth in baseball. They need to make sure they allocate their resources properly. I’ve been saying for awhile now they should send Warren down to AAA to be stretched out for the next injury which will come. They feel they need Warren in the pen and I understand that. Phelps will get a shot and they do have Ace waiting in the wings looking pretty good so far in AAA. They should send Greene back down to work as a starter as well. There are options if they manage this wisely.

  226. luis April 25th, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    I know that Warren has 4 pitches, but Betances does as well…I rather go with upside..But I know that ship has sailed, so it makes sense to have either Phelps or Warren stretched out

  227. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    bigdan – Agreed that the cupboard is not bare, but I believe we may think a bit differently. I like keeping Warren where he is – even with some shaky appearances, I think he is an asset as a late inning reliever… Phelps should probably be slotted as long man/spot starter… Didn’t have the opportunity to see Greene’s inning last night so I won’t comment on him… not a fan of Ace (not performance related).

  228. BoJo April 25th, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm
    Gerne Tenace has an amazing record. What ist it?
    ====
    Magical Mystery Tour?
    Seventh Sojurn?
    Jailhouse Rock?

  229. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    How long does it take to get someone stretched out for the long term?. If its only a start or two anyone will do and you tax the pen a bit if needed. However, I think guy can go 50 pitches long relief (or 3 innings in an emergency start), then 70-80 in a 1st (2nd) start , and then be up to 90-100 by the 2nd (3rd) start.

    You have to keep the pen as strong as possible IMO. Not ideal of course.

    If the Yankees only lose 1 starting pitcher they will be lucky. Pineda is only good for 20-25 starts, and who knows whats up with Kuroda. Tanaka will be testing his limits by season end as well. The SP depth will certainly be tested this year.

  230. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    Glad this chicken of a game is over. Will have to miss the afternoon game tomorrow so maybe that brings them luck

  231. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Luis – I like Betances and hope he works his way into some higher leverage situations… His stuff is electric, filthy, ungodly, sick – whatever adjective you want to use… his mechanics, however, are a hot mess (think Ubaldo 2.0). I would be perfectly ok with releasing the kraken in a tough spot, but I think Joe G, et al are being really conservative. I guess we will see how it all shakes out.

  232. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Glad this chicken of a game is over

    —————————

    :)

  233. pete2 April 25th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    If the Rays lose tonight the AL East will not have a single team with a positive run differential

  234. luis April 25th, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Chicken,

    Tall pitchers tend to need more time to put their mechanics in order,,But the upside is sooooo great that it’s worth the wait…Randy Johnson figured things out when he was 29 years old… I don; think his mechanics are as bad as Ubaldo..But again, that ship sailed a while back…So they need to use Betances where he has the most value…High leverage situations..I mean, nobody can square him up..That’s how nasty his FB is…Very few balls hit in the air

  235. BoJo April 25th, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    jmills April 25th, 2014 at 9:42 pm
    Gerne Tenace has an amazing record. What ist it?
    ====
    Considering the source, you probably are referring to his winning a WS ring as both a coach and as a manager of Jays.

  236. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    Luis – I think we are saying the same thing in a slightly different manner… Betances has the best stuff in the organization (that I’ve seen)… he may be somewhat unorthodox, but I want to see more of him

  237. Mottsx April 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Best part of that game . Lobels steak fries

  238. luis April 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Me too Glenn! Have a good one, I am calling it a night ;)

  239. BoJo April 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Nice to see our bird brained buddy is back.

  240. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    night Luis!

  241. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Nice to see our bird brained buddy is back

    —————–

    bird brained???? Did I ever tell you how much I disliked New Haven??… :) just joking; good to see you Bojo

  242. BoJo April 25th, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    You were missed.

  243. chicken_stanley April 25th, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    picking up the boys tomorrow… the Yankees have to take a backseat… hopefully, catch you all on Sunday. Goodnight all

  244. yankinvegas April 25th, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    I like Nuno. And I don’t want Cliff Lee. Save the money and sign Scherzer or Lester or Shields in the winter.
    I am very optimistic about CC. I think he can have a big year. He and Tanaka plus Pineda, Nuno and Kuroda will be fine.We need a slugger to lengthen the lineup.
    The bullpen is really good.
    How dumb is this guy Marchand. He wrote that Joe brought in his closer down 12 to 1. Kelley is not the closer you idiot.

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