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All-Star voting has begun (which Yankees are in the mix?)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 28, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

On Friday, Major League Baseball announced this year’s All-Star Game ballot. You can vote online (if you feel like placing your votes based on the first four weeks of the season). Here’s a quick look at the Yankees who are on the ballot and their chances of actually making the All-Star team.

Mark Teixeira, Rob ThomsonFirst base
Mark Teixeira
With Albert Pujols going through an early resurgence in Anaheim, and Jose Abreu off to a powerful start in Chicago — plus Miguel Cabrera back to playing first base full time — Teixeira’s chances of making another All-Star appearance don’t look great at the moment. Has to stay healthy and keep hitting the ball out of the park.

Second base
Brian Roberts
Obviously Roberts is on the ballot instead of Yangervis Solarte, but if these two keep hitting like they are the moment — Solarte has the second-best OPS on the team, Roberts has the fourth-worst — then you could make a case that by the time the All-Star Game actually gets here, Solarte will be the more viable candidate. Probably won’t matter. Second base is suddenly a fairly deep position in the American League.

Third base
Kelly Johnson
Obviously Solarte doesn’t make the ballot here either. Johnson, though, has been pretty productive while helping the Yankees at each infield corner. He’s been helpful, but I’m not sure that means he’s an early All-Star contender. Even a guy like Brett Lawrie, who’s hitting below .200, has managed to drive in 20 runs already from the third base position. Josh Donaldson is off to a nice start in Oakland.

Derek JeterShortstop
Derek Jeter
To make an All-Star team, Jeter no longer has to be great, he just needs to be viable. And he’s been a good table setter early in the season. Alexi Ramirez is off to a strong start with the White Sox, but is he really going to beat out Jeter in the fan voting (especially in Jeter’s final season)? Doubt it.

Catcher
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters is off to a strong start in Baltimore, and he might be the favorite now that Joe Mauer is a first baseman. McCann, though, would seem to have a legitimate chance of making the All-Star team if he can improve his offensive numbers in the next month and a half. He’s actually hit pretty well the past two weeks. Having Mauer playing elsewhere opens up the position a little bit.

Outfielders
Jacoby Ellsbury, Carlos Beltran, Brett Gardner
Not a bad group to have on the ballot, but it’s naturally a crowded field. Early in the season, both Ellsbury and Beltran are playing like potential All-Stars. Ellsbury has been a potent table-setter and he’s among the league leaders in stolen bases. Beltran is second in the league in doubles and he’s Top 15 in slugging. Those two seem to be legitimate candidates on a predictably crowded ballot.

Designated hitter
Alfonso Soriano
New Orioles slugger Nelson Cruz is on the ballot as a designated hitter, and right now he’s third in the American League RBI. Edwin Encarnacion, Brandon Moss and — of course — David Ortiz are also on the ballot as DHs. Is Soriano going to have a first half to match last year’s second half? If so, he might make it.

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66 Responses to “All-Star voting has begun (which Yankees are in the mix?)”

  1. CountryClub April 28th, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    Jeter will be the only starter. McCann and Ellsbury will be reserves (assuming they stay at current levels). Tanaka should make the team too barring an implosion. That’ll probably be it.

  2. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Yea sure, but shaking off the rust to what? His line vs RHP right now is basically his line against them the past 3 years but with less power. And the wrist injury will hurt his power.
    ——————

    If all he’s going to be is a .240 hitter with 20 HR power vs. RHP then that’s what he’ll be.

    He’s not going to abandon switch hitting and even if he did there’s no guarantee that the results would be better.

    He’s not going anywhere. Long term contract and full NTC.

    The thing worth noting is that even though Tex’s play has dropped off over the last few years it has been consistent with the overall drop off of offensive play by 1b around the league.

    Based solely on performance, there are maybe 8 1b I would take ahead of Tex right now:
    Cabrera
    Pujols
    Votto
    Abreu
    Freeman
    Goldschmidt
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Chris Davis (though Davis is a better DH than 1b)

  3. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    I’ll go with Jeter, McCann, Ellsbury, Beltran and Tanaka

  4. Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    How do we know Tex would be any better if he switched to right handed all the time? We have never seen him face RHP as a right hander, he might be as bad or worse than he currently is.

  5. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    How do we know Tex would be any better if he switched to right handed all the time? We have never seen him face RHP as a right hander, he might be as bad or worse than he currently is.
    ———————–

    Correct – He is naturally right handed, but you have to assume he has been hitting left handed against RHP for almost 20 years now, it would be a heck of an adjustment. I know Victorino (also a natural righty) did it with some success in limited time last year (.300 ba in 100 at bats) but just because one guy’s able to make that adjustment doesn’t mean another would.

  6. Mike Ri April 28th, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Ells should be an All-Star …. he’s a stud

  7. austinmac April 28th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    I am more likely to be named an all star than Tex is to ditch hitting left handed. Give it up.

  8. GMAN April 28th, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Going forward, in a season where an MLB player has been nailed for PEDs – said player should have 2yr automatic ineligibiliy for consideration to MLB All-Star Game festivities.

  9. Mottsx April 28th, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    I just voted 35 times for Jeter, McCann, Ellsbury, and Beltran… and if you were wondering I voted Altuve over Cano.

  10. Ys Guy April 28th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    i wiht was impressed with tex’s at bat earlier when he walked. You just don’t have any time to decide what to do when it’s coming in 96 with a bend (except for all the online hitters who could see it plain as day). and he crushed the one he hit out.

    i make no declarations based on a good game at bat from the left side,other than that his at-bats seem to be getting better.

  11. luis April 28th, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Well..We better get used to a 217/348/656 kind of hitter for 66% of his at bats… I said last night and I will say it today..Tex bumped in to that pitch..But yeah, I don´t think he will embrace a fulltime RHB thing..That short porch is just too enticing and he thinks his power numbers will suffer as a result of this change..He probably would lose around 5 homers but would win about 150 points in OPS if the change is successful…A damn shame

  12. CompassRosy April 28th, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    Yankee Trader April 28th, 2014 at 8:27 am
    Hassey

    4 teams out of top 6 in pitching ERA and other peripherals are from AL West-A’s,Mariners, Angels, Rangers.
    3 of top 6 in hitting by runs scored-A’s, angels, and Rangers

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/t…../league/al

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    The AL West pitching has been particularly impressive, given that the Rangers are missing TWO starters and the M’s and A’s are each missing THREE

  13. Ys Guy April 28th, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    i think ellsbury’s the only one who’s got a real argument for starting in the ASG. and he probably comes up a little short so far.

  14. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Ys Guy April 28th, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    i think ellsbury’s the only one who’s got a real argument for starting in the ASG. and he probably comes up a little short so far.
    ————————

    Remember, the fan vote picks the starters – so it’s entirely possible that Ichiro is the starting RF for the All Star game.

    What I’m saying is, in his last year there’s no way that the Yankee Captain is not the starting SS for the American League.

  15. luis April 28th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Chip,

    I hope you are right..But I don´t think he will be elected

  16. Ys Guy April 28th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    of course. im just saying that if you voted strictly by this year’s performance, I dont think at this point that any Yankee would really deserve to start. but we’re only like 1/3 of the way to the ASG at this point.

  17. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Wow the Yankees are getting crushed at every single position on the field in terms of production. Unless Yankee fans turn out in droves to vote I don’t know how they get anyone into the ASG on fan vote.

    Jeter is like the only guy I can see sneaking in because of his final year but he isn’t even a top 5 SS in the AL right now.

  18. Ys Guy April 28th, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    there’s still alot of time, although i dont really think performance counts all that much. ellsbury is in the running, he’s top 10 OF so far, fwiw.

  19. Mottsx April 28th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    After watching the face of mlb/franchise votes. I can see a lot of Blue Jays/A’s in the ASG. Their fans actually vote for these things.

  20. Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Wow the Yankees are getting crushed at every single position on the field in terms of production.

    The Yankees don’t have a top 5 guy at any position based on current production.

    I could see McCann, Beltran and Ellsbury being up there by season’s end but right now the team’s offensive production has been bad. The Yankees are 8th in in the AL in runs scored …

  21. Hankflorida April 28th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    They are more relying on Ellsbury’s bat than his speed to steal bases.
    They haven’t become a speed 1st team yet so HankFla should stop worrying.

    Mick, you are right as they have not yet become the Bronx Banjo’s but they have four starters who may not get ten homers and just drive in fifty runs based on their past performances, and if you add Johnson to the mix, he had sixteen homers but also just made it to fifty RBI’s. If we go by past stats, this team may end up scoring the same amount as last year which came to an average of four runs a game. It boils down to many close games, and the Yanks pitching has to pave the way to playing in October. It is a different scenario when we had “Murder’s Row with Cano” and mediocre starting pitching.

  22. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Jose Abreu is ridiculous. Man what a missed opportunity there.

  23. mick April 28th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    I would like to analyze each win and see 1) what the run differential was and 2) give a salient reason why that game was won 3) just for the hell and fun of it.

    If anybody would like to join please do and we could prolly lump a few wins together that look like they followed the same formula. Like say, the 2 low scoring 1 run wins that we just took from LA.

    Simply put, those 2 were the result of good pitching, starting and relief, a timely HR and some good luck, not necessarily good situational hitting.

  24. mick April 28th, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    So a guy calls Francesa and asks Mike, “who am I on the line with?”
    Can’t make that up..

  25. Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Jose Abreu is ridiculous. Man what a missed opportunity there.

    The Yankees have missed on all of the recent Cuban imports. Chapman, Cespedes, Puig, Abreu, maybe this guy Guerrero.

    We did get Juan Miranda though so there is that…

  26. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Seeing as how it’s an off-day and there’s nothing going on and none of you can stop me – let’s play: Let’s Make a Deal:

    Arizona Diamondbacks get: Ryan Lavarnway, Daniel Nava, Felix Dubront and Will Middlebrooks
    Boston Red Sox get: Gerardo Parra and Martin Prado
    Arizona gets some talented young players to inject into their organization and the Red Sox improve two weak spots on their team, the OF and 3b.

    Atlanta Braves get: Dustin Ackley, Tijuan Walker
    Seattle Mariners get: Jason Heyward
    Atlanta gets a prime pitching talent and their next 2b; the Mariners get a running mate for Cano

    LA Angels get: Alfonso Soriano and Gordon Beckham
    Chicago White Sox get: Francisco Cervelli and Zoilo Almonte
    New York Yankees get: Howie Kendrick and Adam Dunn
    Angels get an upgrade over Shuck or Cowgill
    White Sox get a back up catcher and out of Dunn’s contract
    Yankees get a new 2b and a DH to replace Soriano who will likely demolish the RF seats at Yankee Stadium.

  27. GregD April 28th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    we are finding a way to win, that’s the most important thing

  28. Reunion April 28th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Abreu was missed because of the commitment to Teixeira.

  29. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    We did get Juan Miranda though so there is that…

    And Adonis Garcia!

  30. G. Love April 28th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Wow because Tex hit 1 HR from the left side last night he’s Mickey Mantle. He’s shut up all the critics! Huzzah!

    That “macro” view must be glorious from high up on that lofty pedestal some put themselves on.

  31. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    OF doesn’t have to be position by position – you can have 3 center fielders for example – so I could see the All Star outfield being Trout, Ellsbury and whomeveer.

  32. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    We did get Juan Miranda though so there is that…

    And Adonis Garcia!
    ————

    And Ronnier Mustelier
    and some guy named El Duque.

  33. Hankflorida April 28th, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    I think that this team like last year has to win with pitching and not wilt in the dog days of summer because the pitchers were overworked. Pineda will be on a pitch count because of his injury, and CC, Phelps or Nuno will nibble their way through a game causing an early call to the bullpen. We need a Nova like pitcher to give us innings and go deep in the ballgames. The question is who can be the pitcher to do it, Warren or Betances? Both can challenge hitters, and I do not care which one is chosen, but without at least three pitchers in the starting rotation to give respite to the bullpen, a repeat performance of last year becomes a distinct possibility.

  34. Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    “And Ronnier Mustelier”

    Lol?

    “and some guy named El Duque.”

    16 years ago, yeah.

    “The Yankees have missed on all of the recent Cuban imports.”

  35. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    It’s hard to complain too much about a team that is 15-10 in April. I think the Yanks’ pitching and defense have been fine. The bullpen has been better than fine. The starting pitching has question marks. In fact, Tanaka is the only starter without a question mark so sustained success is uncertain based on starting pitching alone.

    I think offense has been somewhat disappointing and probably is underperforming. The Yanks are 12th in runs scored at 4.28 per game. I don’t think the Yanks have a great offense but they need to be and should be better than that. If they can get into the 4.5-4.7 range they can approach top 5 in scoring. I think that’s the best you can hope for from this roster.

    For me, the key indicator is OBP. Right now, the Yanks are ninth, at .327. They need to bring that to the .340-345 range. That’s a good number now. It is what .360 was 10 years ago. I think at around .345 the Yanks will be around their target for runs scored.

    There’s def room for improvement. The problem right now is mostly in the middle. Tex is at .386 and I’m sure that will regress, but Beltran is at .316, Soriano .297 and McCann .279. I’m not sure Soriano can improve much but Beltran certainly can. And McCann needs to continue his shift-busting approach. He needs to at least get into the low .300s. Roberts at .313 and Johnson at .275 have significant room for improvement as well. Solarte at .400 will regress but I can see him in the .340-350 range. He has 11 walks and 11 SOs now which is a good sign. Ellsbury and Gardner are probably exactly where they should be. I don’t know about Jeter (.360 now) but I hope he doesn’t regress much. Ichiro (.350) as well.

    All in all, I think there’s more room to grow than shrink in this area. It’s pretty simple really. Make less outs, score more runs.

  36. GregD April 28th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Hankflorida…….I agree……we need Kuroda to get back to giving us 7-8 innings and we need more innings from CC and Nuno. I thought in Spring Training that Shane Greene might be a guy who can help us later in the year but they keep bringing him and slowing his development. They will only put Warren or Betances in the starting rotation if other relievers are added to the mix that can be counted upon……

  37. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    “And Ronnier Mustelier”

    Lol?
    ——————–

    Yes.

    And of course, we all wish the Yankees had signed Chapman and Puig and Abreu and Cespedes and Soler and Martin and Darvish and drafted Trout and traded for Miguel Cabrera and and and and and…

  38. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    The Yankees have missed on all of the recent Cuban imports. Chapman, Cespedes, Puig, Abreu, maybe this guy Guerrero.

    We did get Juan Miranda though so there is that

    ———

    It will be interesting to follow Aledmys Diaz with the Cardinals. He seems to be hitting pretty well but he’s 23 in AA.

    Not everyone turns out to be Abreu. Or Puig

  39. Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    And of course, we all wish the Yankees had signed Chapman and Puig and Abreu and Cespedes and Soler and Martin and Darvish and drafted Trout and traded for Miguel Cabrera and and and and and…

    Sure you can say “hindsight is 20/20″ but there is a trend here of missing on Cuban players in particular. There were never really any reports that the Yanks were in on any of them. Maybe they need to work on their scouting in that area ..

  40. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Though impractical if they knew Abreu was the real deal George would have found a way to get him and do something about Tex.
    Esp. at that price.

  41. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    There were never really any reports that the Yanks were in on any of them. Maybe they need to work on their scouting in that area ..

    They were in on Soler, but thats it. Their pass on Chapman was the most astounding, because they then spent equally as much money as they could have on him on Damaso Marte and Pedro Feliciano.

    I get your point, Chip, that people complain about missing these players a lot, but damn did the Yankees miss on like all of them. It sucks when you want those players and then the Yankees don’t get them and they turn out to be pretty good and you just see the missed opportunities.

    Especially players like Abreu and Cespedes and Puig and Chapman and Darvish where you can see how they might have translated really well to the Yankees environment.

  42. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    G. Love

    It has reached a point where we have to separate the dispassionate fans from the fanatics.
    Those that feel actual pain in the moment at failures, be it AB’s or losses.
    There is a need for the dispassionate ones in our daily therapy program.

  43. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Though impractical if they knew Abreu was the real deal George would have found a way to get him and do something about Tex.
    Esp. at that price.

    We already have Kelly Johnson platooning at 1B. Abreu could have been a 1B/DH/RF (in NYS only) platoon guy.

  44. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    point being abreu would have owned 1B if we didn’t have a washed up tex
    and even then george would have found a way to get rid of him

  45. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    tex comes off a missed 2013 and abreu available in the OS for nothing?
    its the same thing as passing on all the other IFA’s we have recently.
    george drove the fanaticism , maybe influenced by some in his ear.
    tanaka was the exception but he was obvious.
    if the whole world knows about we will outbid but only if it is a complete no brainer

  46. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Patrick April 28th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    And of course, we all wish the Yankees had signed Chapman and Puig and Abreu and Cespedes and Soler and Martin and Darvish and drafted Trout and traded for Miguel Cabrera and and and and and…

    Sure you can say “hindsight is 20/20? but there is a trend here of missing on Cuban players in particular. There were never really any reports that the Yanks were in on any of them. Maybe they need to work on their scouting in that area ..
    ——————-

    I think they need to improve their scouting in all areas, not just Cuba. That said, I can understand passing on Abreu given their roster construction at the time he was available.

    Puig, Cespedes, Soler and Leyonis Martin all hit the market at about the same time with similar hype. Puig and Cespedes have been very good and Martin and Soler not so much. So it’s a “yes yes.” Yes the Yankees should be more aggressive and yes hindsight sometimes makes you look good.

  47. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    bigdan

    in a quick perusal i found that almost 1/2 of our gaMES HAvE BEEN BLOWOUTS EITHER A WIN OR A LOSS WHERE WE HAVE MORE OR LESS SPLIT in W-L %.

    Wins like last night will be more the norm and if we can pitch and score 4-5 runs we should win.

    as long as we stay healthy we should be in the running.

  48. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Though impractical if they knew Abreu was the real deal George would have found a way to get him and do something about Tex.
    Esp. at that price.

    We already have Kelly Johnson platooning at 1B.
    ———————–

    Kelly Johnson hasn’t played an inning at 1b since Tex came off the DL.

  49. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    I think the Yanks had considerable interest in Soler but just got outbid by the Cubs. Fortunately the Yanks returned the favor with Tanaka.

    I think with Chapman, at the time some folks thought he was a 100 mph left-handed starter. When scouting reports suggested he was a relief pitcher only, the Yanks and others thought that was too much money for a reliever from Cuba. In hindsight, when you consider what the Yanks have spent on lefty relievers it really wasn’t an extraordinary investment.

    Abreu was never an option for the Yanks. Just like third base, it’s going to be quite awhile before the Yanks make any new significant investments in a first baseman. This, of course, is the downside of those long contracts giving to players in their 30s. Just need to hope Tex and Arod find a fountain of youth.

  50. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    We already have Kelly Johnson platooning at 1B.
    ———————–

    Kelly Johnson hasn’t played an inning at 1b since Tex came off the DL.
    ===================
    I think this was said tongue in cheek.

  51. 86w183 April 28th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    guys the Yanks cannot afford EVERYONE. they have had far and away the highest payroll for more than a decade (until this year) without signing those IFA.

    I want all the talent in the world, but it’s not like they are going to spend $ 100 M a year more than everyone else. They did make offers to Chapman and Cespedes. Don’t know about any of the others.

    This off-season was the first time they had significant money coming off the books and ownership responded with Tanaka, Beltran, Ellsbury and McCann. Pretty strong response if you ask me. Depending on how this season plays out they could have significant resources to address two of 2B, SS or 3B next off-season.

  52. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    bigdan

    in a quick perusal i found that almost 1/2 of our gaMES HAvE BEEN BLOWOUTS EITHER A WIN OR A LOSS WHERE WE HAVE MORE OR LESS SPLIT in W-L %.

    Wins like last night will be more the norm and if we can pitch and score 4-5 runs we should win.

    as long as we stay healthy we should be in the running

    —–

    I agree, the only caveat being with Nova and the recent performance of Kuroda, starting pitching is more of a question now than when the season started. That could def derail us.

    I must admit though, while I disagree with it’s construction, the bullpen has turned out much better than I expected. Drob is looking pretty awesome. Kelly has been fine. The secondary pieces have been generally good as well.

  53. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    So if a Tanaka type talent came along at 1B, a talent that was a guaranteed 50 HR guy, we pass in deference to tex?

  54. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    guys the Yanks cannot afford EVERYONE. they have had far and away the highest payroll for more than a decade (until this year) without signing those IFA.

    All the players mentioned could have been acquired under budget. Their spending spree this offseason is still less than they spent last year or their previous years high total. Money is not the issue here, its the Yankees scouting of IFAs and commitment to signing them. Chapman’s salary could have been covered by the other 2 LOOGYs Cashman spent money on and with much higher upside for one.

  55. Chip April 28th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    There were never really any reports that the Yanks were in on any of them. Maybe they need to work on their scouting in that area ..

    They were in on Soler, but thats it. Their pass on Chapman was the most astounding, because they then spent equally as much money as they could have on him on Damaso Marte and Pedro Feliciano.

    I get your point, Chip, that people complain about missing these players a lot, but damn did the Yankees miss on like all of them. It sucks when you want those players and then the Yankees don’t get them and they turn out to be pretty good and you just see the missed opportunities.

    Especially players like Abreu and Cespedes and Puig and Chapman and Darvish where you can see how they might have translated really well to the Yankees environment.
    —————————

    I agree with you and with Patrick – I’ve been saying for a few years now that the Yankees need to overhaul their scouting and development team.

    For the purposes of this conversation where the focus is on scouting, the failures of the organization to identify talent have been massive. Not just in terms of Cuba but in all areas of amateur scouting for both international free agents and the draft.

    The Yankees drafted Cito Culver with the 32nd pick in the 2010 draft with players like Noah Syndergaard, Tijuan Walker and Mike Olt still on the board.

    Internally the Yankees have had a massive problem with self-scouting and thus find themselves unable to separate the wheat from the chaff – choosing to trade away Abe Almonte so that they could keep Melky Mesa.

    So when I say you don’t have to convince me that the Yankees need to change the way they evaluate players I mean it. But at the same time, I’m not a big “cry over spilled milk” guy.

  56. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    “So if a Tanaka type talent came along at 1B, a talent that was a guaranteed 50 HR guy, we pass in deference to tex?”

    ——

    Yes. The Yanks, under Hal, are much more process oriented than under George. Consider the 200 inning announcement early in the off season. That was a very specific articulation of a need and a goal. Tanaka was a product of that. Had it not been Tanaka it would have been another free agent.

    When Hal and his team look at the roster, they don’t even see 1b or 3b when it comes to acquisitions. It’s not on their radar at all. They have money invested there already so it is not considered a need even to be discussed. They probably didn’t look twice at Abreu.

  57. Russell Munson April 28th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Abe Almonte is hitting .204/.250/.306 and has struck out in more than one-third of his plate appearances. He’s not one that got away.

  58. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    The Yanks have never gotten over their passbook savings way of looking at things.
    In the past they were one of a group of teams that shared in the common knowledge of who was good and they just outbid the crowd.
    Nowadays things aren’t as obvious and you have to be craetive.
    They have no experience in doing the research as it was never their way.
    So they keep missing or are too paranoid to participate.
    Throwing money at the problem is becoming a thing of the past and once they realize this will come up with IFA’s that are actually less expensive like an Abreu.

  59. Jerkface April 28th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Abe Almonte is hitting .204/.250/.306 and has struck out in more than one-third of his plate appearances. He’s not one that got away.

    I think the issue with Almonte is that he is marginally useful, where as Melky Mesa was not. Though he did win that game that one time!

  60. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Had it not been Tanaka it would have been another free agent.
    =============
    No one out there was worth the overpay in their opinion.
    Maybe next year.

  61. bigdan22 April 28th, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    They Yanks look at their budget is way that’s similar to the New England Patriots. The Patriots don’t just keep an eye on the cap. They have, in the their own mind, how much they will spend on a QB. On a safety. And they choose not to go over that amount even if there is cap room (Revis might be an exception though).

    The Yanks have internal limits on what they intend to spend on certain positions. That may change a bit year to year, but they have functionally hit their own cap on 1b and 3b.

  62. mick April 28th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    The Yanks have internal limits on what they intend to spend on certain positions.
    ================
    This is a radical change from the “Dynasty” years under George and does not dictate further dynasties.
    It is subject to too many variables such as injuries and a lack of depth by hiring too many stars and not enough complimentary players like Pinella and ONeill.

  63. 86w183 April 28th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    I would think most teams would consider spending $ 50 M a year @ 1B and 3B was enough.

    I didn’t see anyone else in MLB releasing a guy with three years left on his contract to sign Daniel Abreu.

    I’m sure Boston fans are pretty ticked that the Red Sawx didn’t go harder after Tanaka.

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    I agree with the spilled milk concept. what I care about is how they act in the future. There will be more Cubans, Koreans and Japanese. Let’s see if we act.

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