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Today’s game rescheduled for June 2

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 30, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This seems like good news for the Yankees. With no double header tomorrow, the Yankees won’t have to dig even deeper for a new starting pitcher on Monday. They’re already down two starters, and with Adam Warren in a setup role now, they might have been forced to either give Chris Leroux a spot start or bring up someone from Triple-A to start that series opener against the Angels. Anyway, here’s the announcement from the Yankees.

Robinson Cano, Brian RobertsThe New York Yankees announced that tonight’s postponed game against the Seattle Mariners at Yankee Stadium has been rescheduled for Monday, June 2 at 7:05 p.m.

Fans holding paid tickets for tonight’s game (April 30) may use them for the rescheduled game or exchange their paid tickets for any regular season game at Yankee Stadium within 12 months of tonight’s postponed game (subject to availability).

Fans holding Complimentary (COMP) tickets for tonight’s game must use them for the rescheduled game. COMP tickets or equivalent tickets bear no cash value and do not have any additional benefits that may be offered to ticket(s) with a dollar value.

For complete information about the Yankees’ rainout policy, please visit www.yankees.com/rainout.

For tickets purchased through Yankees Ticket Exchange, please visit www.yankees.com/ticketexchange or call 1-800-355-2396 for complete information about its rainout policy.

PITCHING UPDATE:
Hiroki Kuroda will start for the Yankees tomorrow night. Lefty Roenis Elias will start for the Mariners. That means the Yankees are skipping David Phelps and avoiding Felix Hernandez.

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83 Responses to “Today’s game rescheduled for June 2”

  1. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
    G. Love – She would definitely improve the giveaways if she owned the Yankees. We have a lot of crappy giveaway days.

    Every fan gets a minor league prospect to take home on prospect appreciation day.

    On make-over day, Oprah would turn Betances into a starter.

  2. mick April 30th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    Mark Feinsand ? @FeinsandNYDN

    Manny not on the 2004 Red Sox celebration list. Notables include Damon, Nixon, Millar, Timlin, Foulke, Wakefield, Varitek, Myers and Pedro.
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    Manny’s a free spirit.
    Can’t be any other reason for not inviting him.

  3. mick April 30th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    If they are looking to rid themselves of Betances at high value then they best leave him in the pen.
    If a team wants to make him a starter , it adds to that value.
    If he fails here as a starter, he lowers all value, sp and rp.
    Seems like a Monteroesque strategy.

  4. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Manny Banuelos ?@ManBanuelos 1h
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  5. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 5:25 pm

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    Lance McCullers Jr was absolutely sensational tonight…5 innings 3 hits 0 runs 10 Ks 1 BB

  6. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    Good scenario.

    Rays have to play a double header.

    ;)

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    I couldn’t be more over Oprah if I tried. Everyone’s savior.

    Certainly looks like Sterling isn’t going without a fight. This will be interesting to watch.

    If ever you’re tempted to say the Yankees don’t need pitching, just remember 4/30/2014.

    The only sure bet we have now from the starting rotation is Tanaka. It’s possible that Kuroda and CC are going to be just fine. But of course there’s no way to know that until we know it. Maybe the baseball gods helped things along by having Phelps and Warren in the pen. Who knew.

    Phelps and Warren can both start and of course so can Nuno.

    I don’t know if this is the moment you choose to stretch out Betances, when we’re going to be shorthanded in the pen because of needing the present long relievers to morph into starters. When your rotation is already tenuous, do you chance failure with Betances and the possibility of losses? How many games do you let him start before you call it a day, if you have to? Is it fair to the Yankees and their fans to have an experiment at a time when things are pretty askew because some people think Betances should try to start? Or is there no time like the present?

    Hopefully the Yankees have better answers to these questions and will act accordingly. Maybe they’re already thinking about giving him a start, who knows. But the one thing we do know is that they have to worry about configuring an entire team and an entire rotation so they are going to do what they believe gives the Yankees the best chance of winning. Whatever that is. They’re certainly not in it to lose right now.

  8. Hankflorida April 30th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    This discussion of where Betances should be either starting or in relief is a very important one at this point. I am leaning towards the Don Larsen scenario where he was wild as a starter, went to the pen and developed a no windup delivery and went back to starting with good results; on the other hand, having Betances and Thorton playing the roles of Stanton and Nelson followed by Warren, Kelley and Robertson trying emulate Mendoza, Rivera and Wettland was a way where if the Yankees were ahead by the 6th, the win was in the bag. Nuno, Phelps and CC will probably have high pitch counts early in the game so having a strong pen starting with Betances would be an asset. Having Pineda back and also on pitch counts does not alleviate the stress on the bullpen. The more that I read this blog, the more I understand Giradi’s dilemma and the pros and cons, but the possibility of Betances being another Don Larsen to the Yankees makes me lean toward the starter role where he becomes much more of a factor in replacing Nova.

  9. bbb51 April 30th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Tanaka
    Kuroda
    CC
    Pineda
    Betances

  10. pkyankfan69 April 30th, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    PITCHING UPDATE: Hiroki Kuroda will start for the Yankees tomorrow night. Lefty Roenis Elias will start for the Mariners. That means the Yankees are skipping David Phelps and avoiding Felix Hernandez.
    ———-
    The god of rain deserves a cookie

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    I’m talking about the here and now, bbb. There is no Pineda at this moment.

    You’re right that Tanaka, Kuroda and CC are presently in the rotation. So for at least a few weeks we need extra hands on deck. We know that Nuno is getting another start. And we know that Phelps was scheduled to start.

    For a while I guess it will look like this (in no particular order):

    Tanaka, Kuroda, CC, Nuno, Phelps/Warren.

  12. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    “The god of rain deserves a cookie”

    A big fat Famous Amos.

    :)

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Hankinflorida – you make a good argument there. I think if you see Nuno struggle, you may see some changes. If Nuno doesn’t struggle, I don’t see him being removed from the rotation since he doesn’t do well coming out of the pen as a reliever.

  14. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    All this talk of Betances to the rotation reminds me a lot of another famous debate.

    The Joba saga.

    I believe, rightly or wrongly, the Yankees see Betances as reliever in much the same way they saw Chamberlain that way.

    The stuff is great but the makeup, etc. may not be.

    Please don’t shoot the messenger.

    JMO.

    ;)

  15. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I think the Yankees should go w Nuno, Phelps, and/or Warren before they consider anyone else.

    Pineda will be back within a month.

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Actually Warren with his 1.93 and 0.93 WHIP would probably get the next look.

  17. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Pineda will be back within a month.

    I think it will be closer to 2 months if that study I found is to be believed.

  18. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Trisha-

    No reason he shouldn’t.

    He might turn out to be the best of the 3.

    He’s earned the opportunity.

    ;)

  19. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    JF-

    What study ?

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    MTU, I think all indications are that that’s the way it would go, and you certainly couldn’t fault the Yankees if the did it that way. Maybe sometime down the road if they want to visit the possibility of experimenting with Betances in a starting role, they could. Again, that’s even if they want to. But trying to push that at a time when he is a total uncertainty in terms of starting and you have three tried and trues and a rotation in flux, well that just doesn’t compute on the rationality scale. This is a time when fans need to put their favorites aside and keep an eye on the prize.

  21. tomingeorgia April 30th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Mister MTU,
    Hope your trials end well soon.

  22. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Trisha-

    I agree w that.

  23. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Mister Tom-

    Thanks. Much appreciated.

    I see at least another months worth.

    Possibly a little more.

    How’s it going w your lifestyle change ?

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    MTU – more trials? :( I didn’t know there was any trouble afoot.

    I sure hope it breaks well for you.

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    tom, are you still living where you were living, just without the B and B going, or are you moving altogether? I miss so much of what goes on here!

  26. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Hankinflorida -

    Of course, the fly in the ointment is having a lead by the 6th inning. Not a sure thing by any means….

  27. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Thank you Trisha.

    Much appreciated.

    I haven’t been able to post much as I am pretty busy w fire-fighting mode these days.

  28. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    What study ?

    What I posted earlier:

    I think Cashmans estimation is optimistic, at least according to this:

    http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/39/10/2181.abstract

    Management and Outcomes of Latissimus Dorsi and Teres Major Injuries in Professional Baseball Pitchers

    Results: Fifteen of 16 pitchers (94%) returned to the same or higher level of play. The mean time to throwing was 35.6 days. Mean time to pitching was 61.9 days. Nine of 16 injuries (56%) were season-ending. Mean total time lost for athletes returning the same season was 82.4 days. Two of 16 pitchers (13%) sustained recurrent injuries. Prior shoulder and elbow injuries were noted in 75% (12 of 16).

    Conclusion: Injury of the LD and/or TM can occur in pitchers. Nonoperative treatment is successful in allowing a return to high-level pitching.

  29. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Thanks JF.

    Much appreciated.

    I guess it may depend on the severity.

  30. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Well Pineda seems to heal well. He certainly came back sooner than most here thought he would. FWIW

  31. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    As I have said repeatedly with respect to shoulder injuries.

    Getting healthy is one thing.

    Staying healthy is even more of a challenge.

    Have to hope for the best.

  32. tomingeorgia April 30th, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    MTU,
    One good thing about the lifestyle change is that at least eight federal and state tax forms will disappear from my life within two weeks. The sale went OK, but disappointing. Hard to drag people out here to East Nowhere, even if the stuff is good enough to drive 100 miles for. Arranging for an auction gallery over in Atlanta to sell the real good things. It’ll work out.

    And I was looking forward to the game tonight, because I don’t have to get up at 0dark30 any more.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Going to get a few things done now that we have no game.

    Later y’all.

    :)

  34. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Tom-

    Glad to hear the end result will be positive.

    Time for you to finally sit back and relax.

    That is if you know how.

    ;)

  35. tomingeorgia April 30th, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    MTU,
    I’m an early bird by nature, but now I don’t have to be, at least. I want to get you back in the high desert ASAP.

  36. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Well Pineda seems to heal well. He certainly came back sooner than most here thought he would. FWIW

    I don’t think this is true. He was either about average or slower coming back from his injury than others.

  37. MTU April 30th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Tom-

    You and me both.

    The weather where I am absolutely sucks.

  38. BD (Boston Dave) April 30th, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Yeah, this is good news.

    No Felix. Rest for rotation.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Hankflorida April 30th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    This discussion of where Betances should be either starting or in relief is a very important one at this point. I am leaning towards the Don Larsen scenario where he was wild as a starter, went to the pen and developed a no windup delivery and went back to starting with good results
    ///

    Hank,

    Exactly this, and thanks for the historical precedent/reference.

    He’s just not hittable, and I think Warren, despite increase in velocity and working nicely up and down with his fastball, doesn’t have the heaviness and the downward angle to generate awkward swings or overpower a lineup, nor does he have a great breaking ball.

    Betances has all the above, and has been mechanically together enough since they ditched the windup to not only pitch well as a starter, but to resume his dominant ways.

    There’s really nothing preventing this, except their dug in idea that Betances is a born reliever, who has been miscast all this time, instead of seeing what is the obvious choice: he’s repeating his delivery because they changed his delivery and took away the big leg kick and longer stride.

    That doesn’t just translate to short relief, it is a change that has now become kinesthetically comfortable, so why on earth wouldn’t you at least find out if he can keep that going for six or so innings, given his electric arm and deep arsenal?

    Just when you’ve lost two guys of the overpowering variety? Not one – but two?

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    Wonder if the soggy weather will affect the ice surface tonight for Game 7 at the Garden.

    The Rangers hope not, since they’re the fleeter skating team in what has become a one-off.

  41. pete22 April 30th, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Well Pineda seems to heal well. He certainly came back sooner than most here thought he would. FWIW
    =======================

    Almost 2 years is not rushing things. Also, there were concerns about his velocity early on and some thought it best if he increased it gradually in a less competitive setting. He ramped up the velocity very quickly, far quicker than any expected, then lost his gains and is now on the DL. In hindsight, I wonder if it might not have been for the best if he started the season in Scranton. Like I said that’s hindsight, I certainly enjoyed seeing him pitch well even if it did not last.

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Having read backwards, pat you nailed it: lemmings is the word.

    So glad I got to escape Michael Kay for last night’s game.

    I’d be almost as happy were he replaced as I would be were Cashman fired and were Hal to sell the team.

  43. mick April 30th, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    missed bald vinny on K ay show….i assume he admitted he called it wrong….it was all planned by vinny to bait and switch cano.

  44. Hankflorida April 30th, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Doreen says:
    April 30, 2014 at 6:02 pm
    Hankinflorida -
    Of course, the fly in the ointment is having a lead by the 6th inning. Not a sure thing by any means….

    That is why I Vacillate between Trisha’s point of leaving Betances in the bullpen and having him start, and if the Yankee had left Don Larsen in the bullpen after the no windup brought back his control, then they would have lost a key ingredient in their quest for the ring as their starting pitching needed someone who could give them innings. The situation is similar today as Tanaka and Kuroda are the anchors of which Nova seemed to be part of the group, but CC, Pineda, Nuno and Phelps do not seem to fit the picture. Again as you put your finger on the pulse, getting to the 6th with the lead could be the problem.

  45. pete22 April 30th, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Hank, good point with Larsen. A good starter is far more valuable than even a high leverage reliever. If there is a chance his bullpen stint can help him be a good starter, you have to try, especially with 2 starters down.

    I would caution that with some pitchers this has not worked so well. Daniel Bard was wild as a starter in the minors like Betances, moved to the pen and did well. When he was moved back things did not go well. However, I suspect he was already injured as a reliever in 2011 during his infamous collapse (and his teams) and later went for TOS surgery. Joba and Hughes also seemed to have issues being moved back and forth although I suspect injuries and other issues played a role there.

    Difference here is Betances has yet to be used in hi-lev roles so moving him from the pen won’t hurt as much.

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