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Yankees game rained out; make-up date TBD

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 30, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter, Robinson CanoHere’s the announcement from the Yankees…

The New York Yankees announced that tonight’s game against the Seattle Mariners at Yankee Stadium has been postponed due to inclement weather. Details regarding the time and date of a make-up game have not been determined.

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61 Responses to “Yankees game rained out; make-up date TBD”

  1. Tackelberry April 30th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Since the Mariners don’t come back her this season, there has to be a doubleheader tomorrow no? Oh we’ll, tonight I’ll have to settle for Rangers-Flyers game 7

  2. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    Sucks

  3. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Bleck. It was inevitable but I was still hoping for baseball tonight.

    I’d love for them to play a DH tomorrow but the weather might not accommodate it…

  4. sammiejohnson April 30th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Bryan Hoch ?@BryanHoch 14s

    The Yankees & Mariners will not play a DH tomorrow. Just one game, the scheduled 7:05 p.m. ET start. Will make up rainout later in season.

  5. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    They could have the Mariners drop in for one game if there is mutual off day during a subsequent trip east by the Mariners. I seem to remember something like that happening last season.

  6. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
    #Yankees #Mariners have 2 common off days when Sea is back in Eastern time zone: 6/2, 8/14

    And there ya go! :)

  7. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Let’s hope we don’t get King Felix for tomorrow and the rainout/makeup.

    I was hoping for the double header tomorrow to avoid that possibility.

  8. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    G. Love -

    Of course we’ll get Felix for both. They’ll make sure of it.

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned the Tribute to Derek Jeter that was on FOX1, but if you haven’t seen it, definitely make a point of doing so. It was on last night, so I DVRd it. I’m sure it will be repeated. I’m truly wondering if in the history of the game there has been a player who was so universally beloved.

    There were many points about him made during the program, but two that stuck out to me were these. (As usual, I hope I’ve gotten them exactly right). According to some organization that sounded like Rubicon – Reucon, something, I can’t remember because I had never heard of it – Derek Jeter is the most popular player currently in the game of baseball. The other was that of the 50 (or maybe it was 100) most influential men in the world, Derek was voted #11 – and was the only sports figure on the list.

    The comments throughout the program from other baseball players really brought tears to my eyes. It truly is amazing that he has managed to be, as someone said, a first-ballot HOF player, and yet be so universally respected and admired both on and off the field.

    Speaking for myself, I can say that because I am so used to Derek being a Yankee, I don’t think I truly have absorbed the magnitude of who he really is. This program was like a shot in the arm, or something. It jammed an awareness there that I probably only half had before.

  10. sammiejohnson April 30th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Greg Johns ?@GregJohnsMLB 4m

    #Mariners will push Roenis Elias back to pitch Thursday vs. Yankees. NY will skip David Phelps and go with Hiroki Kuroda.

  11. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Doreen,

    Then let’s hope this makeup game isn’t the one game that keeps us out of the division title/wild card, lol.

    Although maybe we’ll have Andy Pettitte pitching for us by then by the way things are going with our starters.

  12. Tyler April 30th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    3 game 7′s in the NHL tonight. Looks like there will not be a DH tomorrow. Hopefully they win tomorrow and can get on a bit of a roll here coming up. Last night was disappointing.

  13. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    That’s kind of what I figured you meant.

    I don’t think he’s being used intentionally in that way – If you look at the game logs – he’s out there to get 5 or 6 outs but his pitch count just gets high quickly. For example last night he recorded 40 pitches facing 7 guys.

    I think using for 6 outs isn’t a bad thing – I can think of another reliever who cut his teeth doing the same thing – but because of his inefficiency with his pitch counts it makes it hard to bring him in for back to back games.


    First I wanna say that relievers throw a lot of pitches, the average per outing is 18 and thats with 3.2 outs per outing. He could be brought in pretty easily on back to back games if Girardi would just use him for 1 inning. You can go back to back if you throw 30 pitches in an inning, I already pointed out how Kelley & robertson have done this multiple times, and Betances can get through 1 inning in a normal amount of pitches. He generally throws around 15-20 pitches per inning. Thats the average for relievers. He got out of CC’s jam on 18 pitches which was pretty nice since he struck everyone out and didn’t let any runs score. Had Girardi just not used him for another inning he’d be available for the next game and had a very good outing in the game you used him in.

    And here is the kicker, I know you’re referencing Mariano Rivera but go look at his usage in 1996. He was throwing tons of pitches! He wasn’t actually very efficient and Torre simply burned up his arm. He could take it I guess, but he’d throw like 46 pitches going 2 innings and then come back on 0 or 1 days rest and throw 3 more.

  14. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Well at least for now the worst we can do in this series is a split.

    I’m still having trouble getting over the fact that Cano hit an INF single AND stole a base lol.

  15. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    I keep waffling on whether or not to use Betances as a starter. It comes down to this for me–

    Pros: 2nd best stuff on the pitching staff. Can dominate hitters. We need starting pitching desperately now and going forward.

    Cons: Throws a lot of pitches it seems and could routinely be done well before the 5th.

    I think the Pros win for me. While I’m legitimately concerned Dellin will be at 100 pitches at 4 and 1/3 innings some nights we survived that with Hughes last year.

    What I’m not factoring into that is Dellin can develop and get more efficient with more experience. If that happened with his arsenal? The Yankees will have struck gold.

    Looking at the health and age of our starters what do we need more? A shut down arm in the pen or a starting pitcher?

    Starting pitcher.

    I hope the Yankees are reassessing Dellin’s role. I know how steadfast and stubborn they can get sometimes, but the guy has electric stuff and if he gains any kind of consistency he’ll solve multiple problems going forward.

    The hole he’ll leave in the pen can easily be filled by Hanrahan and/or Andrew Bailey when they are ready.

  16. Eric in the ATL April 30th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    If the rainout allows us to skip Phelps and avoid King Felix, then that’s a good thing!

  17. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    The thing about transitioning Dellin is that if they tried it you’d hope they wouldn’t do it as they did with Joba and put these weird limits on him. Is there any reason to think he can’t give you 4 full innings right now? Because if he can, you could reasonably expect that he could begin delivering 5 innings within a week or so (if not more, depending on how efficient he can be).

    I think they’re going to stick with Nuno and Phelps, but I’m not loving what I’ve seen from Phelps this season. I don’t know if the transition from the rotation to the pen has gotten in his head or what, but he’s been struggling a bit. Enough that they tapped Nuno instead of him to replace Nova, despite Phelps being higher on the totem pole in terms of experience, Girardi-trust factor, etc.

  18. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    And before anyone asks, I don’t think 4 innings from a starter is ideal but remember we’ve dealt a bit with that already while transitioning Nuno back to the rotation.

  19. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    @YankeeSource Hitters in their 3rd PA in the game against CC Sabathia this year are hitting .346/.360/.571 in 49 AB. .452 BABIP.

    Oy vey….

  20. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    That’s pretty interesting stuff Jerkface.

  21. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    @Joelsherman1 #Yankees #Mariners are going to makeup this rain out on June 2 from what I hear

  22. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Is it any kind of encouragement at all that Betances seems to use fastball, curve and CU in relief?

  23. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Shame,

    I am kind of figuring that either Nuno or Phelps will have a setback. I’m not wishing it, but I’m ready for it.

  24. bbb51 April 30th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Yay, we skip Phelps and miss Felix, that makes it worth no Yankee game today.

  25. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    And of course, once the suspension is over, we can have another body in the bullpen to pickup some slack, right?

  26. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Shame, but you know why they picked Nuno, right? Phelps’ versatility (of the fact that he’s shown he’s capable of versatility in the past) kind works for and against him. Against him in this situation.

    I don’t know. All I know is they’re going to have to carry an extra pitcher for longer than everyone thought. Which makes the bench thin.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    How about this for something to chew on?

    Milwaukee and Atlanta are absolutely sick so far. Milwaukee is 20-7 and Atlanta is 17-8.

    Stay with me. Milwaukee is 14th in the league in runs scores; Atlanta is 28th.

    Milwaukee is 1st in the league in ERA, Atlanta is 2nd.

    Milwaukee is tied for 1st for the highest RD in the NL.

    Atlanta is 2nd.

    If that doesn’t scream out to you the importance and vaue of pitching, man, nothing does.

  28. bbb51 April 30th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Once Pineda’s suspension is over he can go on the DL.

  29. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Shame,

    With you on Phelps. That’s a guy who looks like he’s uncomfortable in his role to me. I’m not getting a great vibe from him like I am from Warren in his role.

    The Yankees won’t stretch out Betances, but they should. I honestly don’t see what they have to lose. He’s not a 7th-8th inning guy for them. He’s treated like a non essential arm in the pen.

    If he flamed out as starter again, at least he has the confidence he can work in short bursts.

    At this point what’s more enticing? Keeping Betances in the pen or letting him take one of the turns that look like they’re going to Nuno & Phelps?

    I think I’d take the risk since the reward is greater in the long run if he can function as a major league starter. Although since they made him a RP last year, I’m sure he’ll have innings limits like every other pitcher the Yankees shuttle between the pen and the rotation seems to have.

  30. Doreen April 30th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Yes, and can get a replacement for him. Now, they’re a man short.

    I just noticed that we get to miss Felix this time around? Wow.

  31. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Doreen – I know why they said they picked Nuno.. but I dunno that I think it’s the full reasoning. Nuno has a more versatile arsenal and that’s probably why he was chosen (plus he is a lefty, which is a bit of an advantage).

    I like Phelps. I think having him in the pen has done him a disservice and considerably lowered his value. So in that regard, sure, I’d love to see him being slotted back into the rotation. But as you pointed out Betances has shown he’s more than a two pitch guy from the pen, and his stuff is simply better all around. I still don’t think they will do it, but if there was ever a case to be made to try him back in the rotation this is it.

  32. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    I actually would have preferred the august make up date just because I’d hope we’d be a stronger team then after the trade deadline.

    But yea skipping Felix is probably worth the june date as well.

  33. mick April 30th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Just what is the end game with Betances?
    I mean, do they plan on keeping him a low leverage middle/long man forever or are they grooming him for the 7-8-9 spot?
    This can’t be some kind of secret Master Plan to gradually convert him back to being a starter, can it?
    I can’t foresee them letting him start again this year even if a 3rd starter goes down or even in the sheer desperation of a 4th.
    They tend to get paranoid from past mistakes i.e..Joba the starter or reliever or Arod the 10 year contract man and Cano altho they finally did get over Igawa.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Primo – sorry couldn’t answer I’m in a seminar. The change is downright nasty and ESP will be so if he starts again. In his final start – 5 no-hit scoreless innings – he basically went to his change as a virtually all-occasions pitch and was able to just dominate with that pitch.

    In those final starts – regardless of what’s said here by peoPle who like to talk but who never a thallus watched those starts – what he’d learned was coming by osmosis and wasn’t so much a mea handicap check-off list any longer, and I believe that is want Dellin meant when he wistfully acknowledged he had begun “to figure SS things out as a starter.”

    The point is, even this guy’s third pitch is potentially devastating; he has contingency weapons to turn to and his pitch counts will not be an issue so long as his infield can turn DPs and handle the big GB workload.
    Guys who
    Strike hitters out tend to throw more pitches generally, but Betances gets a ton of DP grounders as well do it balances out.
    Another factor is, the walks in his last few
    Starts when he was pitching from the stretch were spread out.

    IOW – the Arguments made here against him being made a starter are not good ones, IMO

  35. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    mick,

    They could be grooming Betances for 8th inning and eventually closing. Robertsen doesn’t have a contract for next year.

    For me, I’d be more comfortable with Betances starting than closing if pitch count and control are issues. If a closer can’t be efficient pitch count wise you can’t use him back to back games.

    And they do get paranoid from past mistakes and I think they sometimes make decisions from a place of fear instead of a place of optimism.

    But they’re in a pickle now. You’ve got CC, Kuroda and Tanaka and guys who aren’t stretched out making up the rotation. They need pitching that can get outs and get the game into the 5-6th otherwise this all falls apart quickly.

    Trade market isn’t going to heat up until mid to late June.

    If they’re going internal, Dellin should be a serious option since he’s in a marginal role as it stands.

  36. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Besides the Clippers, what else might Oprah buy today…?

  37. ac1 April 30th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    What happens with Betances could be dependent on Robertson.
    If they lose him to FA, Betances could be our closer.

  38. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Shame,

    Oprah should buy the Yankees and hold her book club inside the stadium. She also could put presents like $500 pajamas under the seats and instead of YMCA she could pick out a fan and give them a makeover with an emotional reveal before the 9th inning.

  39. mick April 30th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    g love

    i think in the deep recesses of girardi’s mind he sees dellin as a starter.
    i don’t know if they see joba in him but i think joba’s emergence as a relief phenomenom from the onset had him doomed to that role.
    again, what they are doing with him now seems obvious to be a dead end street.
    going to closer next year seems to be a stretch and to EIG a dead end if they get a closer to replace DRob on a multi year deal.
    then again, they might not have any plan for him and do what they did with montero.

  40. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    My opinion on Betances is similar to that of Joba in that if it doesn’t work out for him starting at this moment, what’s the worst case scenario…? He just goes back to the pen.

    If his main problem is control issues, how much can reverting back to the rotation mess with him? I’m asking honestly, I don’t really know… it seems like converting guys to the pen is more problematic mentally, and he’s handled that hurdle already.

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    GLove- you get it. But he should be the option because not only is he prohibitively elite compared to those guys, but he is , with reasonable control, lights out period. Anyone who wants to visit milb
    Archives can see for themselves what kind of stuff this boy has over several innings and they will see for themselves he sits 94,95 and dials it up to 97,98, even 99 when he needs it even in later
    Innings. They can’t hit the fastball in the first and they can’t hit it the third and fourth time around. Mix in that curve that drops at the last
    Second and that power change he can throw – let the kid take another swing at starting as there is now a genuine need

  42. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Robertson’s career pitches per game is 17. Rivera’s is 17 as well. I think the inefficiency thing isn’t really an issue. Relievers are inefficient because they usually aren’t control specialists, are usually striking guys out (requires more pitches), or are in big situations where they aren’t playing for contact.

    Rivera is probably one of the most efficient relievers in history (I am just guessing) and he still averaged around 15-16 pitches per inning pitched. David Robertson was at 15 pitches per appearance the last 2 years but he averaged less than 3 outs per appearance.

  43. ac1 April 30th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    I think that Betances is going to be in the pen and will get more high leverage situations as the year goes on.

  44. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    G. Love – She would definitely improve the giveaways if she owned the Yankees. We have a lot of crappy giveaway days.

  45. mick April 30th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    My opinion on Betances is similar to that of Joba in that if it doesn’t work out for him starting at this moment, what’s the worst case scenario…? He just goes back to the pen.
    =================================
    1st, there is no urgency at the moment to start him.
    Continue using him as a 2-3 inning guy and work him up to it without any fanfare, If a 3rd starter goes down or is ineffective flip say kuroda and dellin.

    We saw what happened to Joba when he went from rp to sp to rp again and they re paranoid so if they go to sp he may have to stay there or be sent to Siberia.

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Betances, fastball is worlds better than Joba’s -
    Dellin isnt remotely a Flyball pitcher – if they’re getting it in the air against him that means he’s cutting off his
    Delivery.

  47. mick April 30th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Giving them the benefit of the doubt and thinking they are going to need at least 2 starters next year they should quietly bring this kid along slowly enough to naturally proceed him into starting pitching again.
    They seem to be overprotecting him so this theory might carry some weight.
    I mean they cut him down to 1 inning at a time to isolate his control problem and that seems to be working.
    The inherent problem is that by using him for multiple innings, he can only pitch 1 -2 times a week,but they are accumulating innings so maybe this is their method of stretching him out.

  48. G. Love April 30th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Pruf,

    I was waffling, but considering the state the rotation is in, I don’t see why they don’t stretch him out and give him some starts. If it works it solves problems way past this season.

    mick,

    I do think there’s an urgency. Right now we have CC and Kuroda scuffling. Nova’s gone. Pineda is no certainty with his health. They need starting pitching.

    Now’s the time to stretch him out. I think he has more potential to dominate than to implode on the mound.

    Granted, I don’t think they’ll do it. But I hope they are contemplating it as much as the fans are.

  49. mick April 30th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    The problem with the Joba was that he was incredibly impressive as a reliever and that’s how they viewed him. Turns out they were right .
    I don’t think they really believe Dellin is a reliever.
    May be they don’t want to mess with his head so bringing him along slowly could be a necessary phase of his evolution as a pitcher.

  50. mick April 30th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Along the paranoia line, I don’t think they want to make the same mistakes with Dellin as they did with Joba.
    There seems to be a pattern here with their dealing with past mistakes.
    They never broadcast what they are doing but I do think, under the right circumstances, he could start this year, maybe without any fanfare so as not to upset or bring on any anxiety.

  51. Jerkface April 30th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    The problem with the Joba was that he was incredibly impressive as a reliever and that’s how they viewed him. Turns out they were right .

    How were they right? Joba’s starting stats were better than Phil Hughes even with his 09 season and his relieving stats were worse than Phil Hughes.

    He was only ever incredibly impressive as a reliever in 07, and he was far more impressive starting in 08 than he was impressive in relief in 07. His red sox start in 08 > any relief appearance he ever made.

  52. mick April 30th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Jorge Castillo @jorgeccastillo

    Alfredo Aceves in 3 apps (2 starts) w/AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre: 13 2/3 IP, 1.98 ERA, 14 K, 5 BB. Threw season-high 101 pitches Monday.
    ==================
    More likely this happens.
    Next year for Betances if DRob stays.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Yeah absolutely GLove
    And that’s entirely the point:
    If he succeeds he doesn’t just work out on a contingency or bandaid basis he’s basically a
    Taller Josh Johnson before
    He got all kicked up.
    You’d have to be nuts
    Not
    To give that a
    Trial
    Run
    Right??

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Nicked up

  55. Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Joba isn’t really a good anything right now.

    It’s weird, he looked so very good at the start of last season.. I thought he was getting back to being the guy we thought he could be.

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 30th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Shame, the Yankees somehow messed up the career paths of Joba and Phil Hughes. Nothing intentional of course. But still. There’s something about it being so sad that it happened at all. And Phelps, Warren, and lord knows who else. But maybe they’re ahead of the curve in that they have the guys in the pen and ready to be unleashed, rather than starting in AAA.

    Who knows. Everything is a guess. Everything.

    I think the best way to pick the team that will be there at the very end is to look at who the experts pick and immediately eliminate that team.

    Funky injuries. Maybe the crackdown on steroids has made it so the offense if automatically going to take a hit and so the pitching needs to be even more intense.

    And then there’s the rule against foreign substances for pitchers. Who knows how many have abdicated, at least temporarily, for fear of camera exposure.

    Oh what a tangled web we weave. Kudos to the main culprit, MLB, for making rules and then knitting sweaters.

  57. Against All Odds April 30th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    How were they right? Joba’s starting stats were better than Phil Hughes even with his 09 season and his relieving stats were worse than Phil Hughes.

    ——————–

    That’s something ppl forget

  58. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Here is where I come down (for today) on using Betances as a reliever…

    He has yet to have TJ surgery, and I have a gut feeling that if he were starting, with the amount of pitches thrown, he would be going under the knife within 10 starts.

  59. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 4:37 pm
    Joba isn’t really a good anything right now.
    ===
    He’s a good father….

  60. BoJo April 30th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Shame Spencer April 30th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
    G. Love – She would definitely improve the giveaways if she owned the Yankees. We have a lot of crappy giveaway days.

    Every fan gets a minor league prospect to take home on prospect appreciation day.

  61. mick April 30th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    If they are looking to rid themselves of Betances at hight value then they best leave him in the pen.
    If a team wants to make him a starter , it adds to that value.
    If he fails here as a starter, he lowers all value, sp and rp.
    Seems like a Monteroesque strategy.

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