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Pregame notes: “So-so”

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Vidal Nuno

Vidal Nuno is tonight’s starter, but when you’re being followed an international sensation who has taken the league by storm through the first month of the season, it’s easy for a less-than-six-foot-tall lefty who spent five years toiling in the minors to get overlooked.

Nuno will toe the rubber for the Yankees in tonight’s series opener against the Tampa Bay Rays, but it was tomorrow’s starter, Masahiro Tanaka, who dominated the pregame chatter.

Tanaka told reporters that he considers the start of his big league career “so-so” thus far, but Joe Girardi gave him a bit more credit.

“I think he’s done pretty good,” Girardi said with a hint of sarcasm. “He expects an awful lot of himself. He kind of set a high standard for himself last year, and I don’t know if he’s comparing it to that, but he expects a lot from him. I think that’s what really pushes him to be great.”

Tanaka was referring to the fact that he’s given up some early runs in a few of his starts, but his 2.27 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and and 11.61 K/9 suggest that he’s been very, very good.

“I think probably the biggest thing that we’ve learned about Tanaka is that he’s going to find a way to get it done,” Girardi said. “No matter what his stuff is that day, and no matter what he goes through early in the game, he’s going to find a way to stick around and give me a good chance to win. That’s what I’ve seen from him so far.”

Poor Vidal.

• This is a relatively big start for Nuno considering that the Yankees have lost two straight, and it feels like a longer losing streak because they’ve only played twice in the past four days. He allowed three runs and didn’t make it out of the fifth inning in his previous start against the Angels, but he’s been on somewhat of a limited pitch count. He threw 72 pitches in his last start and should be good for 85-90 tonight. “I’m just trying to go out there and help the team,” Nuno said. “Get a chance to bring in the bullpen, and they’ve been lights out all year.”

Adam Warren• If there comes a time when the Yankees need another starter before Michael Pineda returns from the DL, it’s likely that the Yankees will be calling someone up from the minors. Nuno has already been moved from the bullpen, and David Phelps will take Pineda’s spot for the time being. But Girardi didn’t sound like he would consider moving Adam Warren, who has been very effective out of the pen. “I look at him as our seventh-inning guy, and also as a guy who I could use for more than three outs,” Girardi said. “He’s become very important to our bullpen.”

• Nuno will be opposed by Rays ace David Price, and the Yankees have stacked their lineup with right-handed batters to counter the hard-throwing lefty. Brett Gardner, Ichiro Suzuki and Kelly Johnson are on the bench — each of whom are hitting .176 or worse in their career against Price — with Jacoby Ellsbury and Brian McCann as the only lefties in the lineup. McCann, who is DHing, is actually 3 for 5 with a bomb against Price in his career. Price has been struggling a bit recently. He gave up six runs to the Yankees on April 17 in Tampa, and allowed eight runs (six earned) against the White Sox in his previous start.

• As Jack Curry pointed out on Twitter, since Mark Teixeira has come off of the DL, he and Brian Roberts have played all nine games, while Yangervis Solarte has started six and Johnson five. Roberts certainly seems to be Girardi’s favorite of the non-first base trio, and Johnson may be falling out of favor (even though Johnson’s OPS is nearly 200 points higher).

• As my colleague Brian Heyman wrote about this morning, this will be Girardi’s 1,000th game as Yankee manager. Regardless of the outcome, he will have the best winning percentage of any skipper who has managed at least 1,000 games with his current team. He is currently 579-420 (.580). “It shocked me,” Girardi said. “I’m fortunate and blessed that I’ve been able to do what I love to do in a place I love to be for a long time.”

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90 Responses to “Pregame notes: “So-so””

  1. SweetSpot May 2nd, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Price got beat up by the Yankees in Tampa; he’s a great pitcher with lots of pride I expect a good effort from him tonight. Hope I’m wrong! :)

  2. Mordot11 May 2nd, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Not that it means a lot, but ichiro is unreal in batting practice. Just before the yanks finished he hit one into the bleachers just to the rf side of the Mohegan sun sports bar.

  3. Locke May 2nd, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Yankees have hit LHP much better this year. I like the lineup.

    v. LHP

    .292 .354 .444 .798

    v. RHP

    .237 .303 .370 .672

  4. Jerkface May 2nd, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Beltran has not hit lefties though, neither has Roberts or Solarte. Jeter, Ellsbury, Tex, and Soriano are carrying vs lefties. Thats why I thought it was weird they have DHed McCann and went with Beltran in the outfield instead of playing Ichiro. Who is one of the other guys who has carried vs lefties.

  5. jmills May 2nd, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    I was forunate to catch a Guidry Monday night game vs the A’s. 25-3, holy cow!

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    Guidry was, and is, pure magic.

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  8. Locke May 2nd, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Jerkface May 2nd, 2014 at 5:38 pm
    Beltran has not hit lefties though, neither has Roberts or Solarte. Jeter, Ellsbury, Tex, and Soriano are carrying vs lefties. Thats why I thought it was weird they have DHed McCann and went with Beltran in the outfield instead of playing Ichiro. Who is one of the other guys who has carried vs lefties.


    You’re definitely right about Beltran. Could it just be Joe trying to avoid the lefty/lefty even though Ichiro is crushing LHP this year.

  9. pete22 May 2nd, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue May 2nd, 2014 at 8:53 am

    ‘Well sure, by why would I care about the problems other teams have?”

    It isn’t really about caring about other teams’ problems but to me recognizing that this may be a totally bizarre season in baseball, and pretty unpredictable. I believe, especially in the AL East, we may be seeing the ramifications of backing away from PEDS, and I also believe that seeing what happened with Arod and the new penalties have caused a lot of religion getting.

    If I am onto something – and I believe that I am – I think we’re into a total realm of the unknown for a period of time because it will be hard to gauge what players are actually capable of, and maybe going on past seasons will become an impossibility.

    Something to think about.

    Just thought I would bump this since its an interesting topic and I don’t really agree.

    Offensive stats are pretty much the same as they were last year. HR are down a bit (10%) compared to last years season average but they always are in April, and K’s are up yet again, a trend that started at the beginning of the steroid era and has accelerated due to the expanding strike zone. K rates are up 25% since 2006 and at All Time highs. Much of the reduction in offense can be attributed to the higher K rate since fewer balls hit mean fewer hits and HR’s.

    As for PED’s. The Biogenesis suspensions were not from testing. Players like Arod had used for years without getting caught. Some of the dumb ones got caught because they did not follow instruction on when to use and/or how much, but generally, a smart player can use w/o getting caught, especially in the off season where they have some notice before getting tested.

    However, with increased penalties, changes in the testing program that have every player getting tested via CIR at least once, and HGH testing (even though HGH clears from the system so quick it makes it hard to get caught) it is possible fewer players are using steroids or HGH in season. I doubt the use in the offseason is affected though and that muscle gain or fat loss does not reverse itself overnight

    I do think one of the biggest risks with big free agent signings is that players who get that big deal for 5+ years may decide the time to get clean is now. More to lose getting suspended for 80 games making 15-25 million a year than at 5-10 million a year. But that’s been true for years now and some of the early declines from such players may be due to them simply stopping PED’s and maybe more importantly, slacking off on offseason workouts.

    Also, its important to note pitchers were and are PED users. It does not seem to be hurting them in terms of performance. All the TJ surgeries suggest pitchers are too strong for their ligaments, perfhaps due to an offseason of PED use. Of course, maybe no HGH in season or in ST is hurting pitchers since HGH helps in tendon/ligament recovery after starts, and this could be a reason for the rash of TJ injuries.

    Its an interesting topic, but I would be surprised if the game was clean and what is going on seems more about the strike zone IMO.

  10. pete22 May 2nd, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Mordot11 May 2nd, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Not that it means a lot, but ichiro is unreal in batting practice. Just before the yanks finished he hit one into the bleachers just to the rf side of the Mohegan sun sports bar.

    I always though Ichiro could be a 20+ HR guy if he dispensed with his slap-em approach. However, after almost 4000 hits with this approach I guess he won’t change even though he no longer gets 40- 50 IF hits a year with it.

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  12. yankeefeminista May 2nd, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    If PEDS testing is affecting hitters (Brian Bannister, among others, theory) then it would also affect pitchers, so to reduce the lack of offense to saying players are not using PEDS if pitcher PED use is also down may not compute. I have read some of the articles and watched the podcast of The Rising Strikeout Rate Symposium and could be that pitchers are just so much better these days/and more K pitchers, defensive shifts, etc. are contributing to lack of O. Hard to say. I read a Grantland article last week that referred to some of the above as well as teams’ current trend toward putting run saving types in their lineups, which means less offensively loaded lineups. And Pete22, the smaller strike zone makes sense too. Could be some or all of the above…

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  16. Tar May 2nd, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    Trish how old is your nephew?

  17. Tar May 2nd, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    And BTW mick wasn’t being sincere. Not sure you can get any lower than he just did.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 2nd, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    I am praying he was being sincere. I really thought he was. If he wasn’t that would be a terrible thing.

    My nephew is 4. My sister-in-law is a school teacher and deals with special ed kids and so she is pretty convinced that the little guy has something going wrong. There’s no question that he’s developmentally delayed, but I think that has to do with some externals and there’s no question he’s a bright little guy. But my sister-in-law, guess, had perfection in mind for her children and so she is really struggling with this.

  19. Tar May 2nd, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    He’s not, you just got a glimpse of the real mick.

    4 is not too old to be diagnosed. I’m kind of shocked that she is a special ed teacher and wouldn’t be more proactive about it. A diagnosis will just open up a lot of doors that might not be there without one. If there is any question she really needs to have him tested. Early intervention is critical to their long term success. If your sister in law believes that he is on the spectrum she is probably going through a kind of mourning period. She is mourning all the hopes and dreams that she now thinks maybe gone. It’s understandable but she really needs to have him tested.

    BTW my son is a genius (literally) his IQ is in the top 1 or 2 % so it has nothing to do with intelligence. He is also the most compassionate, thoughtful person I know. I would not change one thing about him personally. I would love to remove some of the hurdles that he faces, but that has nothing to do with the him the person.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 3rd, 2014 at 12:11 am

    Tar, she isn’t a special ed teacher. She’s a resource specialist and deals with a lot of special ed children. She’s tried desperately to get answers and the teachers dealing with him, also teachers with whom she has had years of interaction and so they pay special attention to him, have told her that they don’t believe he has autism. But my sister-in-law is pretty much a black cloud person by nature and so she is holding tight to her belief that the little guy is on the spectrum. She lives her fears about him day and night. She definitely is going through a mourning period, a very long mourning period that started when he was not quite two.


  21. Tar May 3rd, 2014 at 12:23 am

    Maybe he’s not, she really has to find somewhere to go to have him tested. Some School Sytems are better than others in that regard, but generally speaking I would try and find some place that is really good at it. I’m sorry she ( and you ) are going through that. :sad:

    This is a good site to start looking around.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 3rd, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Tar, he is the sweetest little guy. He’s a beautiful little guy. He’s my godchild. The thing is that all of us on my side of the family, brother included, feel that there’s so much more we want to do for him, but my SIL is basically running the show. And you know what our attitude is? He’s ours and no matter what it is, we love him to death. We’re not bothered a whit by any of the possibilities. But my SIL is perpetually sad. She kinds of hides him away. That’s what kills our souls…


    Thanks for the shoulder. God bless you and yours.

  23. Tar May 3rd, 2014 at 12:36 am


    You definitely have the right attitude.

    Someone ( maybe all of you) may need to have a sit down with your SIL and let her know it’s not about her. it’s about that cute little guy and getting him any help he may need. She needs to stop feeling sorry for herself and act accordingly.

    I’ll pray for you guys


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