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Postgame notes: “Kind of what you expect from guys like him”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 03, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Masahiro Tanaka

The Yankees knew Masahiro Tanaka could pitch. What seems to have truly impressed them since spring training is Tanaka’s calm and steady demeanor. Scouting reports told of his talent, but Tanaka’s ability to handle pressure – intense scrutiny from two different continents, no less – has been eye-opening, and perhaps just as important as his devastating splitter.

For evidence, look no further than today’s fourth win in his first six starts. He fell behind early, burned through 43 pitches in the first two innings, and acknowledged afterward that none of his pitches were particularly sharp The end result? Another seven-inning start with no walks when Tanaka retired 12 of the last 13 batters he faced — including the last two on strikeouts — in a game the Yankees badly needed to win in order to keep a deflating losing streak from getting significantly worse.

Masahiro Tanaka, Brian McCann“He’s a top-of-the-rotation starter, and that’s kind of what you expect from guys like him,” catcher Brian McCann said. “It’s hard to believe he’s only 25 years old. I feel like I keep saying that. This guy’s got some poise, competes every time he’s out on the mound, and gives us everything he’s got.”

The Yankees had lost three straight for the first time this season, and their offense went down in order the first three innings while Tanaka allowed a home run, a two-out RBI single, then another homer. It was time for Tanaka’s winning streak to finally come to an end and for the Yankees to reach a new low, except that Tanaka never let things get out of control.

It wasn’t bend don’t break, it was bend and then dominate (even without his go-to split being as effective as usual).

“He finds a way to make adjustments and hang around, in a sense,” manager Joe Girardi said. “… Understanding what he needs to do off the field to be successful is probably just as important as knowing what he needs to do on the field to be successful, because you bring it to the park with you every day, and if there’s frustration or other things going on in your life, it can affect how you perform on the field. But his embracing everything has been important.”

Tanaka’s numbers have been undeniable — his 51 strikeouts are the fifth-most for any pitcher through his first six major-league starts since 1900 — but Tanaka’s poise has been perhaps the most surprising and crucial aspect of his early success. Yes, he has talent — the Yankees have known that for years — but he also has a presence.

“I thought that some of the hits that they got went through holes that our defense wasn’t there,” Tanaka said. “But told myself, can’t lose myself just because of that and try to keep myself intact, and that’s basically what I did out there. … I feel all of the experience that I have gone through kind of led me to who I am right now.”

Mark Teixeira• As good as Tanaka was, the Yankees offense also showed some life today, and it started with Mark Teixeira’s fourth home run in five games. “It’s a very good sign,” Teixeira said. “I really didn’t know what to expect in the beginning of the season. End of spring training, I didn’t necessarily feel great, so to get some results now, it’s a good sign.”

• Teixeira’s homer came two batters after Jacoby Ellsbury led off the fourth inning with the Yankees first hit of the night. Rays starter Jake Odorizzi sent the Yankees down in order the first turn through the order, then four of six reached base to start the fourth. “A lot of us having seen him,” Ellsbury said. “but I thought we kind of locked in our approach. Kind of relaxed once we got that first hit out of the way. Tonight was timely hitting, a lot of big hits with runners in scoring position.”

• Ellsbury had another three-hit game, including the game-tying RBI single in the fifth. He’s had at least three hits six times this season. He’s had at least two hits 11 times. “I can always picture doing better,” Ellsbury said. “But yeah, we’re playing well as a team. It’s a good environment. Just happy to come to the yard each and every day and put on a Yankee uniform. But there’s always room for improvement.”

• Go-ahead home run belonged to Kelly Johnson, who homered for the first time since April 12. All four of his home runs have come at Yankee Stadium this season. He hasn’t played much lately, but Johnson said he’s been able to stay sharp in the cage. “Not at all a problem,” he said. “It’s to be expected a little bit. It’s a long season and you know opportunities are going to come. … Just being able to get in the cage and continuing to work like you’re going to play every day (has helped). Nothing simulates game action, pitching, and all that, but you do the best you can.”

• Ichiro Suzuki’s terrific start continues. He went 2-for-4 and has hit safely in nine of his 11 starts this season. He’s hitting .395 when in the starting lineup and has seven multi-hit games this season. This was his first two-double game since last April 19 in Toronto.

• Although Tanaka treated it as a non-issue, McCann said he thought that first comebacker — the one that hit Tanaka on the ankle — might have had some impact on those early innings. “I think after the third inning he really settled down,” McCann said. “I think him getting hit in the ankle affected him more than he let on for us to believe, but he settled down there, got all of his pitches working, and pitched deep in the ball game.”

Ichiro Suzuki• Even though he was at 113 pitches after seven innings, Tanaka was scheduled to go back out for the eighth inning before the Yankees scored some runs and got some breathing room. Girardi said he wanted Tanaka to face just one batter that inning — he thought Tanaka was pitching well and wanted him to face Matt Joyce — but after getting those two extra runs, Girardi decided to go straight to Dellin Betances.

• Betances on coming into a three-run game in the eighth inning, essentially serving as the setup man for the day: “I feel like the last couple of times out, I’ve gone in good situations. Today was a little later in the ballgame, but I feel comfortable. My confidence is where it needs to be right now. I was just glad I was able to go out there and do a good job.”

• Preston Claiborne closed out the win with his third scoreless appearance of the home stand. He’s allowed one earned run in 7.2 innings this season. I really thought he might be on the verge of a DFA out of spring training, but he’s been awfully good since getting a chance to return to the big leagues.

• Since 1900, these are the only MLB pitchers with more strikeouts than Tanaka (51) through their first six starts: Kerry Wood (58), Herb Score (57), Bub Feller (54) and Stephen Strasburg (53).

• One other Tanaka note: He’s allowed seven home runs this season, and six of them have come in the first four innings. Three have come in the first two innings. Today’s second homer, the Wil Myers home run in the fourth, just barely got out.

• Speaking of Myers, he has a hit in all 12 of his career games at Yankee Stadium. That’s the longest such streak by any player to begin his career in any version of the Yankees’ home park. The kid’s good.

• Final word to Girardi: “I think it’s important (to bounce back after last night). I think it’s also really impressive. It’s a pretty resilient group, a veteran group that understands you’ll have games like last night. It’s extremely frustrating at the time, but every day is a new day. That’s the great thing about our game. It was important.”

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165 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Kind of what you expect from guys like him””

  1. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    ? Since 1900, these are the only MLB pitchers with more strikeouts than Tanaka (51) through their first six starts: Kerry Wood (58), Herb Score (57), Bub Feller (54) and Stephen Strasburg (53).”
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    Not to take anything from Tanaka but we are in the K era with the highest number of K’s in MLB history in recent years, so these historical comparisons are meaningless. Most of MLB history there was an average of 4-6 K’s per game per team., We are now close to 8 per game per team this year, highest ever in MLB history.

    Still, even in this high K era few rookies have done what Tanaka has, even if he is rather mature rookie.

  2. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    This is how Tex has to be for us to succeed.

  3. WT2 May 3rd, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 7:08 pm,

    Thanks for the nice welcoming JAP. I really appreciate it.

    I really enjoy your post along with most of the posters in this site. Lie you said, I really miss CB, Rich, randy, as well as SJ and others posting here. There are a lot of really good smart baseball fans in this site that I have respected for a long time. I think this is the most intelligent Yankees forums in the Internet, so keep up the good work guys.

    As you can see, I have been reading this site since 2006. I do not post a lot, but I will try to post more and have intelligent conversations with you guys.

    Have a great day guys and thanks for welcoming me again:)

  4. say NO to Cano May 3rd, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    Welcome WT2

  5. say NO to Cano May 3rd, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    When Montero was traded:

    “We’re talking about a Mickey Mantle type talent here, a generational bat”

    “he’ll hit have an insane OPS every year for the next decade. Except now, he’ll be doing it for the Mariners.”

    and the best one of all: “the Yankees have traded a young Albert Pujols, that’s what they’ve done. That’s not hyperbole”

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-2163182

    Someone actually said this!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Someone also said that Betances has a “plus arsenal of 6 plus pitches.” :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  6. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    WT2 you will have to retire the 2 soon when Jeters number gets retired. May I suggest WT22?

  7. bigdan22 May 3rd, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Bichette, O’Brien and Jagielo all go deep. 9th for O’Brien. Bichette hitting .330 with an OBP around .450. Not too shabby.

    Roller drove in his 20th run a little while ago in his 17th game. He’s hitting .410.

  8. bigdan22 May 3rd, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Guess Nuding got promoted.

  9. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    They’ve been moving players around a lot with all the DH, etc. De La Cruz also went to SWB. Cotham and Heredia to Trenton, so Heredia could start today.

  10. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Ells and Gardy 5-9,4 runs. 1SB, 3 RBI….close to Toronto game #’s….same result….coincidence?
    Ichiro 2-4, 2 runs didn’t hurt…..Tex eyes were wide open with them on all day 2-4, 3RBI, HR.

    I’d keep them together again tomorrow and bat Jeter 3rd against the lefty.

    Wonder how many pitches Gardy saw?

  11. austinmac May 3rd, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Nudging got promoted today. My son faced him in JC ball. He said he was very tough.

  12. ScottinSJ May 3rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    I don’t know if it’s just me, but Beltran appears to play in a very methodical, low energy fashion. I realize he’s a veteran, but he shows zero emotion. I guess I prefer the Paul O’Neill types, but Beltran is casual to the extreme.

    Maybe he’s not 100%, but his “style” has been consistent since the beginning. Maybe it means very little. Throw in his rather poor defense, and he has been kind of underwhelming. Not a bad thing that he was out of today’s lineup.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    austinmac, I could see Nuding being a nice BP option for Yanks.

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Too bad, Sanchez just missed a pitch the other way to the warning track.

    He has such natural power

  15. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Sanchez drilled that ball oppo. Almost out of here. Nice AB vs. Crick. Crick’s the Giants’ top prospect, and #32 on mlb top 100.

    Pruf, Banuelos supposed to pitch @4 innings tomorrow. (assuming he doesn’t elevate his pitch count beyond what is reasonable)

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Hey austinmac, your son should provide lohud with scouting reports, since he’s actually faced some of these guys :)

  17. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    austinmac, Nuding was up briefly to SWB last season. We’ll see if he sticks or goes back and forth. Crick’s from I believe Sherman, Tx., btw.

  18. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    The Yanks have to find their identity and today was the blueprint.
    The damage those 2 will create at the top of the order is undeniable and so obvious.
    If Jeter is holding it back from happening, well, I just don’t get it..
    He has been moved in the order before batting 1st and 2nd in his career.
    Why can’t Joe see that hitting him 3rd against leftys is not a demotion?

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    ScottinSJ,

    Interesting, I tend to prefer players who are under control, both in baseball and hockey. Nothing wrong with showing emotion, of course, but I can live without the swashbuckling “efforting up” in the swing, and in running down flyballs. Give me an OF who glides through the ball and a hitter who has a Robinson Cano easy stroke with effortless power :) (Of course, I always loved Don Baylor, so there’s that.)

    Beltran is such a pro hitter, that’s what’s fun for me to watch. He has been a bit casual in the OF, but I think that’s just because he really can’t run anymore and maybe is also reflexively protecting his knees. He did somersault over that fence (maybe regrets that). I just think he can’t quite get there anymore, so “casual” (by me) is probably the wrong word for his OF defense. He definitely jogs out of the box, hmm….haven’t heard a peep from Michael Kay on that…or anyone here, for that matter.

  20. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Mason clocked that. Great play by the CF. Mason is have really good AB’s against Crick.

    Beltran’s demeanor/personality is fine with me, and I think he’ll hit if we give him ample rest. His fielding on the other hand is more of a concern. I wouldn’t want to be Girardi trying to win games while trying to keep all these guys fresh between Beltran, Sori, McCann, Roberts and of course, Jeet. But it seems to be working with Ichi so far.

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Crap Mason Williams just got robbed by a CF that had his back to the ball and leaped up with an outstretched glove to haul in a ball that was over his head… Mason has some pop as he’s getting older and bigger

  22. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    *among those players, should read. yeah, Beltran is a professional hitter, and he may be hurting a little after that dive into the stands.

    I would think Gardy is seeing less pitches lately. Don’t have hte stats though. In recent memory, he has been less patient at the plate.

  23. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    “Mason has some pop as he’s getting older and bigger”

    Also I have seen him against the best EL pitchers and he is right on the ball, having good AB’s. Not sure what he did on the road in non-televised games. Tomorrow he faces a lefty–much better numbers vs. LHP.

  24. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    The Yanks have to find their identity and today was the blueprint.
    The damage those 2 will create at the top of the order is undeniable and so obvious.
    If Jeter is holding it back from happening, well, I just don’t get it..
    He has been moved in the order before batting 1st and 2nd in his career.
    Why can’t Joe see that hitting him 3rd against leftys is not a demotion?
    ===================

    You don’t get to face the other teams 7th SP’er and a shattered bullpen every game, so not sure I agree this was a blue print.

    As for Jeter, there is not much of a problem having him bat 2nd against LHP’ers, since Joe likes to sit Gardner then and Jeter still hits them well, but against RHP’ers (batting 189 against them), Ells and Gardner 1-2 is best, and Jeter should be near the bottom of the order. That would be a demotion so it won’t happen unless the team is really struggling

  25. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    good evening all.

    Didn’t get to watch the game today but got to check in on the radio occasionally… Sounds like Tanaka settled down after a so-so beginning and the bats woke up later in the game. Regardless of whether you’re a Tex fan or not, you’ve got to be somewhat encouraged by the results he’s had the past few games.

  26. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    If Joe can drop Posada to 9th, I don’t doubt he would drop Jeet vs. RHP if Jeter’s struggles continue. It’s only been 20 odd games and he only played in 24(?) last season. I am however still calling a 2012 Jeet vs. RHP. He has looked overmatched with multiple GO before and has risen from the so-called dead. Also he was hitting LD earlier in season against RHP, so here’d hoping.

  27. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    even if gardy saw less pitches b/c he was aggressive, there is no doubt that the 2 of them were on base all day at a clip of about 60% of plate appearances.
    between all the hairy monsters in the middle, one of them could hit a HR at any given time.
    this is our blueprint for success.
    the bottom of the order with solarte, roberts and ichiro getting on makes the order circular.
    plenty of contact hitting table setters for a middle featuring tex mccann , wasn’t he a weatherman?, beltran and soriano.
    should be enough…i would find a way to play KJ at home vs rh pitching.
    can’t have enough HR’s, as long as there are men on.

  28. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    ScottinSJ May 3rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    I don’t know if it’s just me, but Beltran appears to play in a very methodical, low energy fashion. I realize he’s a veteran, but he shows zero emotion.

    ========

    Kind of a mix between Cano and JD Drew. He is 37,and he is what he is which is basically a good bat with some pop when healthy and is going to conserve his energy. Has not hit much since he tumbled over the fence in Tampa, so I wonder how healthy he is now.

  29. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    if joe won’t adjust, unfortunately there will be injuries and if jeter goes down surely ells/gardy will be at top.
    when this gels and jeter gets back, i doubt he will change it back.
    it really shouldn’t be an affront to jeter and i don’t think he would take it that way.

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    YF, will be good to check in with MW tomorrow, and see Manuelito’s rehab start :) Hope the weather cooperates

  31. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    You don’t get to face the other teams 7th SP’er and a shattered bullpen every game, so not sure I agree this was a blue print.
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    I don’t care who they are facing, this team needs to find an identity and i don’t see one emerging unless those 2 lead it off.

  32. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    If Joe can drop Posada to 9th, I don’t doubt he would drop Jeet vs. RHP if Jeter’s struggles continue. It’s only been 20 odd games and he only played in 24(?) last season. I am however still calling a 2012 Jeet vs. RHP. He has looked overmatched with multiple GO before and has risen from the so-called dead. Also he was hitting LD earlier in season against RHP, so here’d hoping.
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    Had a 723 OPS against RHP’ers in 2012. Not awful but he was getting a ton of IF hits then and he is not getting many this year. He was hitting RHP’ers better earlier in the year but that may be due to the quality of the pitchers. Houston, Orioles and Toronto pitching staffs are not very good.

  33. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    one thing you will never see with them at top is an inning killing DP.

  34. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    I don’t care who they are facing, this team needs to find an identity and i don’t see one emerging unless those 2 lead it off.
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    Which is what I agreed with in the rest of my post, at least against RHP’ers

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Regardless of whether you’re a Tex fan or not, you’ve got to be somewhat encouraged by the results he’s had the past few games.
    ///

    Hey Free Range,

    I’m happy for Tex and his bat is needed. I’m cautiously encouraged by what looks like a real effort to be more level/direct to the ball and he’s getting results. Whatever he’s doing, he’s more conscientious and it apparently has finally sunk in that he needed to do something. How much of that is about the wrist putting limitations on him, or his ugly LH results, I don’t know. He looks a lot better

  36. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    i would give beltran another day off tmw and use this lineup:

    ell, gardy, jeter, tex, sorian,mccann,solarte,ichiro, roberts

  37. ltl May 3rd, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Does anyone know how to contact Chad?

  38. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    scroll up to the top of this post and click on Chad’s name

  39. Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Tanaka’s expressiveness on the mound is nice. Saw him scream into his glove today. I like that he is always battling and adjusting and cares about each at bat, without being too intense. He doesn’t have that desperate intensity that someone like Joba, and he isn’t so sullen like Phil Hughes was throughout his starts.

    His demeanor is…appropriate.

  40. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    JAP – I haven’t gotten to see Tex a lot over the past several games (I’ve been relegated to John and Suzyn) so I can’t confidently attribute it to anything… I’m just glad to see the results even if its nothing more than dumb luck! :)

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Tanaka’s expressiveness on the mound is nice. Saw him scream into his glove today.
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    Andrew Eugene Pettitte :)

  42. ltl May 3rd, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Thanks Chicken

  43. Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Yea very Pettitte like, that kind of focused intensity with a little bit of outburst when appropriate.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Freddy – I think it’s more than dumb luck, but he will still have problems with offspeed off the plate. He’s been fed some fastballs and he took care of them, so good on him. They need him to hit RHP.

    Watching Trenton kids right now.

  45. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    JF – The homerun allowed to Jennings – John and Suzyn said it was a fastball up… Do you remember, was it the 4 seamer? Just curious

  46. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    JAP – I’ll leave you to the game… Enjoy! :)

  47. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    According to Tanak, he had absolutely nothing today.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Freddy – glad you’re back hanging out with us

  49. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Just watched the game on mlb.tv archives. Not a very impressive first 4 innings from Tanaka. 7 hits (2 of which were HR), 3 runs, only 1 K, and several hard hit outs.

    Pitched well his final 3 innings with 4 K and only 1 hit. Seems to be his pattern, rough start, strong finish. Bit strange that. Maybe he needs to warm up more before the game but he seems to be getting by with it.

    Betances with a hi lev 8 th inning was nice to see. Loney got to him but he has been getting everyone

  50. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Hi Free-range! Yes, Jennings’ homer was on the 4-seamer.

  51. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Pete222222222 – did you happen to notice the homeruns he gave up, whether they were the 2 seamer or 4 seamer? Just wondering… I think you posted avg’s against Tanaka pitches earlier which suggested the 2 seamer got hit much more than the 4 seamer which really surprised me.

  52. Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Gameday says it was a 4seam but based on the velocity and the movement I think it was the shuuto. That pitch is the one that runs dead left to right.

  53. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    HI YF !!! Thanks. Did you get to attend today?

  54. Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    It has a lot of horizontal movement but doesn’t seem to have vertical depth so he can’t leave it up in the zone.

  55. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Thanks JerkFace… when I have the opportunity to watch Tanaka, it seems (to my eyes, at least) that the shuuto is much more effective than the 4 seamer… All the stats I’ve seen seem to point to the contrary being true.

  56. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Myers HR was also on a four seamer up in the zone, both at 90-91. Avg velocity on the four seam was the lowest of any of his starts, only a tick though, 92 instead of 93.

  57. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Thanks Pete/YF/JerkFace… now its all clear as mud :D

  58. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Chicken, I did not. I am still recovering from Thursday’s game. I am going to see Manny pitch in Trenton tomorrow. Here’s the homer link: http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/t.....='ALL

  59. bigdan22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    Another home run for Bichette in second game. This time to CF. .330 BA. .933 OPS in over 100 PAs. 18 Walks. 19 SO. So when do you have to take him seriously again? I guess when he gets to AA. I’d let him spend most of the year in Tampa since this is his first stint there. Put up some numbers.

  60. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    I think it went center to right, but I have too much up, so my browser isn’t cooperating to see it well.

  61. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    chicken. Updated numbers on the four seam vs 2 seam

    4 seam BA 313, SLG 688
    2 seam BA324, SLG 568

    Slider and split still pretty much unhittable

  62. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Gameday says it was a 4seam but based on the velocity and the movement I think it was the shuuto. That pitch is the one that runs dead left to right.
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    To my eyes as well. Brooks baseball has it as a 4 seamer, but that could change as they may reclassify it after review

  63. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Ok, shut down the browser and looked at it and agree it isn’t a four-seamer. I was going by gameday’s categorization.

  64. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    One of the expectations some scouts had was that Tanakas fast ball would be more hittable in the MLB and he would be prone to HR’s if he leaves it up in the zone as he did in Japan with a dead ball and a pitchers park. That’s proven to be the case thus far, but his slider and splitter have been so effective it has not mattered.

    If he has a game where he does not have the slider or splitter, that will be a bad game. So far it has not happened

    One thing to watch out for is he is throwing the spliter far more than he did in Japan (25%), assuming NPB classifications were right. I seem to remember that only went to 2012 and was around 15%. I remember Schilling saying you could lose split if you threw it too much because the cartilage in your fingers could loosen up. There is also anecdotal evidence that the split can increase stress on your arm (or maybe it was the elbow). Not saying any of that will happen with Tanaka just that its something to watch for going forward.

  65. Jerkface May 3rd, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    That was almost always guaranteed to happen, because they NPB coaches stress throwing a greater variety of pitches regardless of quality where as MLB is about more focused repertoires of using your best pitches.

  66. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    pete – just my thoughts… I don’t think the fastball is necessarily a problem. The velocity and/or movement is there to be effective… I believe its a transitional thing – locations that were successful in NPB may or may not be effective in MLB. I agree, however that he probably is best served to not over-rely on the split. That said, I’m really, really high on Tanaka’s present and future as a top of the rotation pitcher.

  67. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Also, the better caliber of hitters makes it necessary to go with your best pitches. I am not saying Tanaka should do anything different, just that here could be consequences down the road due to the more frequent usage. While he is throwing fewer pitches per game, he may end up throwing more pitches overall due to more games and innings

    FWIW, his split generated a lower swing and miss% than in any of his first 5 games, 36% vs 56% in his first 5 games. Probably means nothing, just typical variance. See how it goes next start

  68. bigdan22 May 3rd, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    Kyle Roller’s ridiculous season continues. 2 for 2 with a walk today. OPS at 1.380. That’s 200 points higher than anyone else in the minor leagues (Joey Gallo). 200 points.

  69. pete22 May 3rd, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Chicken. I am not saying the fast ball is a problem or that he should reduce the use of his split. The outcomes on when they put the fastball in play are not great, but many are not put in play and it sets up his other pitches nicely. His FB location is a problem though. He has to learn to throw up and out of the zone with the 4 seamer and get hitters to chase it, and keep the 2 seamer down. You don’t get away with 91 mph FB above the belt that gets too much plate against good hitters.

  70. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    pete – agree. You posted what I intended to in my post but with more clarity :)

  71. austinmac May 3rd, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Let’s forget Nuding’s first start at SWB.

  72. hardwired7 May 3rd, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    From the “I would not have guessed that” department: Betances is 3rd on the Yanks in Ks.

    28 Ks in less than 16 innings. His K/9 is a ridiculous 16.09.

  73. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    mac – I’m a bit behind… did he start tonight? Not so good?

  74. austinmac May 3rd, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Tanaka said his splitter wasn’t working well and was more like a CU.

  75. chicken_stanley May 3rd, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    gotta cut and run… screwed up my flight reservations… thought I was flying out on Monday. Thankfully, I checked my itinerary and realized my reservations were for early Sunday. Catch you all either tomorrow or Monday

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock May 3rd, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    safe flight Freddy

  77. austinmac May 3rd, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Chicken,

    Nuding got shelled. Oh well.

  78. yankeefeminista May 3rd, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    jmills, Stroman is being called up to the Show.

  79. Hankflorida May 3rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    I have been posting about Cashman attempt to counteract the computer defenses that have led to the various shifts with his contact hitters that play with a certain amount of intelligence. It started last year with the pairing of Gardner and Ichiro and continues with Ellsbury, and I was against these players playing together mainly in the outfield where I thought power was easier to get but was not aware of this new concept as a means of of beating the shifts until recently. There has not been a great deal of discussion of this new age offense or is this just my grasping for straws because I could not understand why Cashman would seek out these table setters instead of RBI guys. Has the elimination of Ped’s and shifts based on computer data brought baseball “Back to the Future” to the Dead Ball Era?

  80. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 11:21 pm

    Go Rangers!

  81. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    HankFla

    Who will be on for all our Hairy Monsters if not the Table Setters?
    I, fo one, support them and have advocated strongly in favor of Ellsbury and Gardner getting on base.

  82. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    I also like the way Tank has taken over the blog area at side page.
    Not knowing what he is saying doesn’t bother me .
    Nowhere the HS crap Joba and Swisher used to post.
    Even Tex is alright, as long as he hits.

  83. mick May 3rd, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    I also like the way Tank competes. I just hope Girardi doesn’t burn him out or as some used to say Proctorize him.
    “I was sending him out for Joyce in the 8th” after saying in pregame 110 pitches was his limit.
    He finished with 113.

  84. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 12:39 am

    I remember Schilling saying you could lose split if you threw it too much because the cartilage in your fingers could loosen up.

    Kuroda seems to be ok and he’s 39.

  85. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:42 am

    bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 12:39 am

    Kuroda seems to be ok and he’s 39.
    ===================

    My point was that Tanaka is throwing it more than he ever has. Uncharted territory. Also, I believe he said you can get it back by throwing it less.

    Kuroda is actually throwing it far more than he had in the past, starting from last year, and hitters are batting 351 against it this year. I would not be surprised if the ineffectiveness of the split goes back to the end of last year. In Fact a quick check and they hit over 350 against it last August after a career high usage of 33% in July after which he cut the usage drastically in September to 17%

  86. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:44 am

    Hankflorida May 3rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    I have been posting about Cashman attempt to counteract the computer defenses that have led to the various shifts with his contact hitters that play with a certain amount of intelligence
    ===============

    Thought that was HankinFlorida who was posting that. :)

  87. MTU May 4th, 2014 at 6:54 am

    Good morning.

    Tanaka as stopper.

    He needs to user his 4-seamer sparingly.

    I advocate him pitching backwards.

    He’ll have the greatest amount of success that way.

    Kudos to Ellsbury and Texeira.

  88. MTU May 4th, 2014 at 7:01 am

    And the idea that the split causes more arm trouble than other pitches is a myth.

    A slider is probably way harder on the arm.

    ;)

  89. blake May 4th, 2014 at 7:09 am

    Through 15 games….Tex has a .983 OPS…..that’s pretty amazing. I don’t think it’s sustainable at all but he’s hitting homers again from the left side and that’s great news for the Yankees.

    He’s not gonna be a high average guy again but if he could just hit .260 and draw his walks and slug 30+ homers then boy is that a big boost for the lineup.

    I do think he’s done some good things mechanically……he’s not gonna be able to totally rework his swing so that he can hit the ball all over the field……but he has shortened and flattened his LH swing a bit so that maybe he can make more consistent solid contact and those balls will leave the yard…….

    It’s a great turn of events if he can be productive…..he’s eating up a lot of payroll so they at least need him to be above average…..keep it up Tex.

    Tanaka is gonna have some growing pains…..seems his biggest weakness so far is the long ball……it’s something he didn’t have to worry about in Japan as much because there every guy in the lineup couldn’t take you deep and mistakes weren’t damaged like they are in MLB…..it’s just and adjustment he has to make and he will…..he’s too good not to

  90. MTU May 4th, 2014 at 7:10 am

    Catch you all when I can.

  91. blake May 4th, 2014 at 7:11 am

    So far a bad Tanaka start has been 3 runs in 7 innings or so…..I’ll take 30 of those

  92. blake May 4th, 2014 at 7:12 am

    Hey MTU!

  93. MTU May 4th, 2014 at 7:15 am

    Blake-

    They are not able to do all that much w Tanaka’s slider or split.

    They are hitting FB’s up in the zone.

    Those are the pitches he needs to avoid.

    He tends to try to use his FB as a quick get me over pitch early in counts.

    That should be avoided.

    I expected to see more 4-seam velo too.

    In Japan he was able to ramp it up on demand.

    He will make any adjustments necessary.

    His curve is better than advertised.

    Especially when used judiciously.

    The velocity separation helps.

  94. MTU May 4th, 2014 at 7:19 am

    Blake-

    Good to see you posting again.

    I missed ya’.

    I’ve been real busy too.

    I’ve got to run.

    Take care.

    :)

  95. Tackelberry May 4th, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Ian Clarkin, 5 scoreless innings in his Charleston debut last night.

  96. GregD May 4th, 2014 at 8:09 am

    I do believe that reports of Tex’s demise have been greatly exaggerated ????

  97. GregD May 4th, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Tackelberry May 4th, 2014 at 7:47 am
    Ian Clarkin, 5 scoreless innings in his Charleston debut last night.
    ————–
    Great news!

  98. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Good morning

    Tampa Game 1
    C Peter O’Brien: 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K, 1 PB — ninth homer of the year … coming into Saturday, three teams in the 12-team Florida State League had nine homers or less total

    Game 2

    RF Peter O’Brien: 2-3, 1 R, 1 2B

    Baby Bomber Recap: from RAB’s

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/......+Blues%29

  99. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 8:31 am

    Lefty Eric Bedard today. Yankee hitters vs Bedard. Suspect Jeter back at #2. Would like to see more 1,2 Ellsbury, Gardner, especially vs a righty.

    Hitter AVG AB HR RBI
    Carlos Beltran .200 5 0 0
    Jacoby Ellsbury .500 4 0 0
    Brett Gardner .000 3 0 1
    Derek Jeter .500 2 0 0
    Kelly Johnson .500 6 0 0
    Brian McCann .800 5 1 1
    John Murphy Ryan .000 3 0 0
    Brian Roberts .333 3 0 0
    Yangervis Solarte .500 2 0 0
    Alfonso Soriano .200 10 0 1
    Ichiro Suzuki .600 5 0 0
    Mark Teixeira - - - -

  100. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 8:40 am

    In Clarkin game, got to see Andujar get ahold of
    One. Andujar, Jagielo and a prospect
    Comeback for Bichette make the 3B prospect
    Watch very interesting.
    Off to see Manuelito today in Trenton :) Sanchez got hit on wrist in yesterday’s game hope
    He isn’t swelled up
    And out of lineup today- that would suck. He just missed an oppo homer yesterday and Mason Williams drilled a
    Ball over CF head but guy made
    A
    Ridiculous leapIng catch. Hope
    Manny gets
    Decent weather. Back to back good showings by our young LHP would be super: C needs an heir!

  101. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 8:43 am

    I bet we see Murphy today. CC does need to pitch inside so Longoria and Muers don’t play pepper with the right field bleachers.

    The swing Myers took for his homer was such an ugly one. He has to be awfully strong to hit it out.

  102. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    JAP,

    I read that Manny will go four today if things go well. A sign of progress.

    I watched Clarkin. Very good fastball command for someone so young and a nice 12-6 curve. The announcers said he was throwing 90-91. He looked very polished.

  103. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Any word on Bryan Mitchell’s injury?

  104. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Austinmac – I didn’t get to
    Watch young Ian that closely but I liked what I saw and nice change. Delivery was
    Interesting high leg kick and sweeping high arm angle.
    Manny I guess
    They want to bring along slowly I hope
    They don’t artificially hold him back to conserve bullets for later. Supposed
    To
    Be very windy today and with the river
    Right next to park hope it
    Doesn’t mess with his breaking stuff. You guys have to keep me updated on C
    Today. Hate
    Missing him but can’t pass up
    A chance to seeanBan rehab. How
    Do you like
    Our Aaron Judge?

  105. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 8:55 am

    Not sure about Mitchell status ATM not sure
    There is
    An update. Hopefully not another TJS
    Situation

  106. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    JAP,

    I have seen Judge a couple of games earlier. He didn’t hit much yesterday, but I like his short(amazing at his size) swing. I expected a slugger swing. I like this better. As big as he is, he will hit homers by accident.

  107. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Good morning. Can’t find any updates on Bryan Mitchell’s elbow inflammation he’s on the DL MRI apparently okay

  108. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Good morning all. I’ve got a short layover and thought I would hop onboard and see how the other half (the breakfast club) lives :)

  109. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Who hits them farther, Judge or O’Brien? :)

  110. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:03 am

    Good morning chicken

    What city are you in this morning?

    Just finishing up breakfast now. Do you have time to join me?

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:03 am

    SB Nation wrote that
    We should
    Look to deal Dellin for IF help. The only reason I might be on board with that is
    I agree
    That the way he’s being used just kind of shrugs off his potential impact
    And elite stuff. If he were included in some
    Package I’m sure the
    Receiving team would be looking to get max
    Return by making him a starter again, do he has more
    Trade value just because of that.
    It would break my heart, but it’s
    Become pretty jaded and besides,
    The infield would get a much needed upgrade potentially and Betances would almost certainly be
    Stretched out and
    Get
    Back to seeing a starter somewhere.

  112. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 9:04 am

    YT,

    You are on top of things as always. You are my morning shower of knowledge.

    A home run derby between the two would be fun. O’Brien was overmatched this spring, but maybe that is what he needed–to understand how he will be pitched and lay off the breaking stuff off the plate.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:08 am

    YT – I think O’Brien but Judge
    From what I’ve seen hits
    Those
    Soaring line drives and agree
    With Mac the guy has a compact
    Stroke but has that short to ball long through ball impact. I too was surprised by how he laid off
    Offspeed and had a quiet presence at plate. O’Brien the little
    I’ve seen has a loooooong swing but he punishes baseballs he can connect with. Always hope
    Though when
    They’re still young.

  114. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Chicken,

    On behalf of the morning crew, I tell you we are pondering having to get out of bed for another cup of coffee.

    I hope your work meeting went well.

  115. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    Good morning YT! Im in Charlotte on my way to Chicago. Thanks for the breakfast invite but I think I’ll save my appetite for the chicago dog I’m looking forward to when I land :)

  116. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Chicken,

    I’m going to Chicago in a couple weeks. Leave a dog for me.

  117. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Good morning Mac. The matter will likely be decided this week… keep your fingers crossed for me that I won’t have to relocate

  118. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    AMAc – did you see AndujAr’s shot- he’s considered
    The best defender by far over Jags-Bichette. They’re trying to make Segedin more
    Respectable at 3B and he’s improved but I am dubious about his defensE

  119. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    The Cubs are widely expected to be sellers at the trade deadline but GM Jed Hoyer told reporters (including CSN Chicago’s Patrick Mooney) that trade talks are currently “non-existent” and things won’t get serious for at least a few more weeks.

    Cubs 40 man:

    http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/te.....p?c_id=chc

    Is there a Yankee-Cub deal to be made?

  120. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    Oh good luck with that Freddy :)

  121. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Mac – depending on the outcome of my meeting this week, I’m there again the week of 5/19… heck, there may be a hotdog shortage pending in the city :)

  122. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Thanks and good morning JAP.

    gotta run… the ritual “herding of the cats” aka boarding of the plane has begun :)

  123. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Safe flight Freddy :)

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Overcast here.
    Why can’t we get a sunny day with mildNess for Manny?

  125. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Chicken,

    They are officially crossed.

  126. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    O’Brien hits them farther from what I have seen. Judge is all about base hits and ths shorter swing; the homeruns will just come for him because of the pop. But I vote O’Brien.

  127. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Qualifier, Judge is the better hitter; O’Brien’s swing tends to be long, hairy.

  128. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Safe flight Chicken.

    JAP

    Would hate to trade Betances, as I believe he could be the next Yankees closer, if Robertson leaves via FA.

    Any Cubbies on that 49 man you would like ?

    Starlin Castro?
    Jorge Soler?
    Mike Olt?

  129. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Make that 40 man

  130. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 9:26 am

    JAP,

    Yes, I saw Andujar’s homer. It was off a high fastball, and he hit it FAR over the left field wall. It was a no doubter off the bat.

  131. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    YF – Judge defied my expectations based on early scouting reports of raw power but little technique. The guy has a plan at the plate and it isn’t to hack at pitches. He runs very well too for a giant. He’s really under control. Too bad we did t get tO see him read the ball in RF down in Lakewood.

    Well heading for Sunday brunch.

  132. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    I thought Clarkin looked really good, very polished esp. for a young kid, threw 3 pitches and mixed them well. Got ahead and struck hitters out with that 12-6 curveball. Very nice Sally league debut. It will be fun to follow him.

    Looks overcast. I hope it clears for Manny B. and CC.

  133. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Enjoy, Pruf; see you at the Hammer!

  134. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    I’d like to see how Judge does in Tampa. I hope they don’t wait until ASB to move him.

  135. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    I doubt they’d trade Dellin, such great stuff and cost controlled, but I’d love to see him play a high leverage role sooner than later.

  136. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    YT – we don’t need an OF, I like our 3B ‘spects better and Castro is a suspected sex offender but were it not for that I would be in. Don’t want guys like that on my team.

    White
    sox though tried
    To trade for Betances in 2012 and they have a couple
    Of MiF but I have not seen any of them so couldn’t weigh in just seen some stat lines from milb

    I would want to keep Dellin to start but the dye around here once cast never changes.

    Gotta split :) good
    Day and go yanks go C

  137. J. Alfred Prufrock May 4th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    See ya

  138. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Peter O’Brien makes Baseball America’s All-Prospect team for April. Why he’s still sitting in Tampa and Roller is still in Trenton confound me.

  139. 86w183 May 4th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Good morning all —-

    Kyle Roller had another good day and is now at .419 w/ 8 HR… ridiculous for him to be in AA. Same with Branden Pinder who is 2-0 (4) 0.00 out of the Trenton bulllpen w/ 15 K in 14 IP

    Judge should be in Tampa, O’Brien in Trenton, Roller and Pinder in Scranton.

    Most important developments for the Yanks since opening day… Tanaka and Teixeira

    Most disturbing….. Jeter and Nova/Pineda

  140. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    I think the Yanks probably want O’Brien to keep working on his D if they are going to attempt to pass him off/project him as a [prospective] catcher. If that is the case, they will move slowly with him, as they do with all their catchers. He’ll likely move up when Sanchez is ready to be promoted to SWB. I don’t think that will happen soon, but we’ll see. K rates look better but it’s still a SSS. Roller has been hitting the cover off the ball, and did so last season too before he got hurt. But he isn’t really considered an elite prospect. And, he is blocked by AAAA types in SWB like Canzler. His K rates are down too, but the big knock on him has been K’s and erratic contact. Stay tuned.

  141. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    86w183 May 4th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Good morning all —-

    Kyle Roller had another good day and is now at .419 w/ 8 HR… ridiculous for him to be in AA. Same with Branden Pinder who is 2-0 (4) 0.00 out of the Trenton bulllpen w/ 15 K in 14 IP

    Judge should be in Tampa, O’Brien in Trenton, Roller and Pinder in Scranton.
    ————————————–

    Agreed – Roller and Pinder are putting up video game numbers – there’s no good reason for them to be at AA, especially when the guys ahead of them are Russ Canzler and Jim Miller

  142. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    I see where O’Brien was in RF the second game of the DH. How is he out there?

  143. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Yankeefem –

    I don’t care if Roller’s considered an elite prospect or not. The fact is that Canzler isn’t hitting at the AAA level (.231/.281/.346) on the other hand Roller is hitting over .400 with devastating power. I don’t know that Roller will be a big league player, but I know Canzler isn’t and he certainly shouldn’t be standing in Roller’s way.

  144. GregD May 4th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I would like to see Judge have more than 95 at bats before moving him up…….he is building his confidence and he can get a half season at High A after about 100 more at bats

  145. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    “So as shifts have gone from few to trendy to rampant in the majors, the question is: What will the offense do to counter? Essentially, will hitters defiantly keep hitting into the shift? Or will there be an offensive movement to more opposite-field hitting and bunting, at least as an attempt to get the opponent out of the shift so players can go back to doing what they like?
    “Our sport — less than football or basketball — tends to rely on ‘play to your strengths’ as opposed to ‘take what the opponent is giving you,’?” Padres general manager Josh Byrnes said. “Maybe playing to strengths is necessary for the psyche in a failure-driven sport. I would think in the strikeout era, we could see a re-emergence of bat-control skills being valued. Unfortunately, many current players know how to launch but do not know how to manipulate the bat.”
    This is central to the argument: Do players have the skills to change their style? As one AL personnel head said, “Yes, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady can throw short or long or intermediate if necessary, but could Jeff George? Robinson Cano and Miguel Cabrera can use the whole field, but it is easier to say, ‘Let the ball travel deeper to go the opposite way,’ or ‘Wait for a certain pitch you can drive to the opposite field’ than actually doing it when you have a blink of the eye to react.”
    Power hitters, in particular, have tended to live under a belief that trying to bunt or go the other way might come on the exact pitch they could drive for extra bases — which is what they are paid to do.
    “The billion-dollar question is whether or not batters can really easily control the direction of the ball in play and what the cost is of attempting to control it,” said Astros GM Jeff Luhnow, whose team deploys the most shifts by far.”

    More here: http://nypost.com/2014/05/04/m.....ariations/

  146. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Chip, I wouldn’t hold my breath though because Yanks use AAA (as most teams do) as a place to entrench spot starting replacement or lower level players in the case of injury. Do you think they would call up Roller over Canzler if they needed a temporary body? The answer is no.

    GregD, I don’t disagree, but think he could use a new challenge fairly soon.

  147. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Chip, I wouldn’t hold my breath though because Yanks use AAA (as most teams do) as a place to entrench spot starting replacement or lower level players in the case of injury. Do you think they would call up Roller over Canzler if they needed a temporary body? The answer is no.
    ———————

    I agree that they wouldn’t, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t.

  148. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    Chicken,

    I get to Chicago on 5/22. You still there?

  149. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Chip, there is so much that they should do in the minors and don’t. Speaking of which, I am off to Trenton to see Manny pitch. I’ll tell Roller you say hi! ;)

  150. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    YF

    Usually the Rays pitchers pitch to location to maximize the batter hitting into the shift, but I noticed yesterday that they were getting strikes on Tex on the outside corner, since Tex has difficulty hitting the other way, and won’t bunt.

  151. DONNYBROOK May 4th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    - SUNDAY MORNING MUSINGS -

    (1) Tanaka’s 7 innings after the bullpen was spent the day before, was a carbon copy of what the Rays got from Price on Friday night.

    (2) “Loney No Baloney” has figured things out after escaping from LA. Ethier needs a copy of that map, which will be available around July 31.

    (3) All right all you TEX Bashers. You can come out of hiding now. TEX’s defense is no longer Gold Glove, but in Yankee Stadium that bat of his Still hold sway.

    (3) McCann should be dropped in the order until his bat recovers.

    (4) The combo of Warren and Betances has got to have opponents jaws dropping.

    (5) YES needs a better way for the viewer to see the shift and runner(s), than by using the camera from behind home plate. You can’t tell if the pitch is a Ball of K, and if the batter hits the ball, it’s “Where’s Waldo”?

    (6) Soriano lately turning balls into LF into somewhat of an adventure, and that includes ground doubles down into the LF Corner. I know he claims he hits better when playing defense, but the combo of Gardner and Ellsbury is LF and CF is a Weapon the Yankees should Not surrender.

    (7) Series outcome in the hands of CC. The comfort level there is Completely Gone.

    (8) Madden making an absolute Fool out of himself Fri and Sat. Of course, whether it’s the R/Sox Mgr, (whatever his name is), Madden, Scioscia, Buck, whatever, these guys always play the Yanks like it’s Game 7. I expect Scioscia to reprise his act come Mon in Anaheim.

    (9) You EST dwellers remember to get a nap in Mon. Gonna be a Late, Late, Show.

  152. yankeefeminista May 4th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    YT, I noticed that as well. Heading out, catch you all later. Go C! Go Yanks!

  153. Yankee Trader May 4th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Me too.

    Enjoy the game YF.

    Everyone have a great day.

  154. 86w183 May 4th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Not sure who I want to pitch better today… Banuelos or Sabathia

    O’Brien is serviceable in RF, 3B and 1B, but is more than a little heavy-legged. I don’t believe that he will ever be an above average defender anywhere. His power is legit, though. Big time light tower power.

    As for Judge… he was a high level college player and those guys should be in High-A or AA. The Yanks are undeniable too slow to promote guys and often they get bored and regress as a result.

  155. 86w183 May 4th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    YF —

    I am very jealous of your day head. Any interest in instigating a Lo-Hud get together in Trenton this summer?

  156. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    I wanna’ be sedated…

  157. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    YF – for what it’s worth – if the Yankees did need a call up I would hope it would be Zealous Wheeler and not Canzler.

    But that’s also the point. The Yankees have 3 guys in Scranton who would be considered for INF call ups before Canzler (Anna, Sizemore, Wheeler) so why bother having Canzler siphoning at bats rather than promote Roller and see how he plays against a tougher level of competition?

  158. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 10:52 am

    86w183 May 4th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Not sure who I want to pitch better today… Banuelos or Sabathia

    O’Brien is serviceable in RF, 3B and 1B, but is more than a little heavy-legged. I don’t believe that he will ever be an above average defender anywhere. His power is legit, though. Big time light tower power.
    ———————————

    O’Brien could be a Mark Trumbo type but with better contact rates.

  159. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Minor thoughts:

    –Both Jagielo and Bichette have been trashed recently as future third baseman. Andujar made his 9th error yesterday. Is there a consensus of scouting opinion that he’s actually a future third baseman?

    –No doubt O’Brien is crushing. Still leading FSL in OPS with 1.090. But his SO/BB is 24/4. Does that ever work out when you reach the upper levels? On the other hand, Bichette’s OPS is .948 and his SO/BB is 19/18.

    –As I pointed out last night, Roller is the most dangerous hitter right now in all of baseball. His OPS of close to 1.400 is 200 points higher than anyone else in all of the minor leagues. I honestly don’t see why the Yanks should hold Canzler in higher regard. It’s not like Canzler is on the 40 man. Roller is really the only prospect in the system who should have been promoted yesterday.

    –Pinder is def someone to watch. No player moves faster through a system than a hot relief pitcher. With Burawa down and Lewis MIA?, and Ramirez who knows, the Yanks’ need for young big arms as the season unfolds may turn to this guy.

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