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Game 30: Yankees (16-13) vs. Rays (14-17)

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Yankees lineup

1. Jacoby Ellsbury CF

2. Derek Jeter SS

3. Carlos Beltran RF

4. Mark Teixeira 1B

5. Alfonso Soriano DH

6. Kelly Johnson 3B

7. Yangervis Solarte 2B

8. Brett Gardner LF

9. John Ryan Murphy C

CC Sabathia LHP

 

Rays lineup

1. Logan Forsythe 3B

2. Desmond Jennings CF

3. Evan Longoria DH

4. Wil Myers RF

5. Sean Rodriguez 2B

6. James Loney 1B

7. Yunel Escobar SS

8. Brandon Guyer LF

9. Ryan Hanigan C

Erik Bedard LHP

 

Umpires: Marvin Hudson HP, Cory Blaser 1B, Brian O’Nora 2B, Doug Eddings 3B

TV/radio: YES/WFAN 660, 101.9

Weather: cloudy, 64 degrees

 

Mannings in the house: Peyton and Eli Manning are here. Peyton said Derek Jeter is hosting them in his suite for the game and that he’s here to pay his respects to his friend and will do the same when he goes on with the retiring David Letterman tomorrow. “I’m sad to see some of these guys retiring,” Manning said. “I’m not far behind. But glad to be able to do it. … I really appreciate Derek’s friendship. He’s supported me throughout my career, and I’ve tried to do the same for him. It’s been a unique friendship.”

Few free passes: Yankees starters have issued a total of just 37 walks, best in the majors.

Relief instead of stress: The Yankees relievers who are on the roster right now have a combined ERA of 1.58 and have allowed opponents to only hit .199.

Update, 1:13: Sabathia off to a bad start, two doubles among first three Rays, Longoria drives in the run with his, 1-0.

Update, 1:22: Bedard gets the Yankees 1-2-3. Jeter now 4 of 27 on the homestand.

Update, 1:29: Sabathia gives up a two-out single in the second and that’s it. He came in at 0-2 with a 6.00 ERA in his two home starts.

Update, 1:36: Single by Teixeira, double by Soriano, sac fly by Solarte, 1-1. Soriano needs three more hits to become the seventh with 1,000 in both leagues.

Update, 1:52: Three-run inside-the-park homer by Myers, 4-1. Ellsbury leaped, the ball hit near the top of the fence in right-center and then deflected off Ellsbury, who went down.

Update, 1:59: Sabathia has given up four runs, seven hits in three innings. Gets out of first-and-third, two-out jam.

Update, 2:07: 1-2-3 inning for Bedard, who brought a 5.52 ERA and a streak of 15 winless starts to the ballpark.

Update, 2:16: Aceves warming with two on and one out in the fourth, nine hits off Sabathia.

Update, 2:16: Force at second, but Sabathia didn’t bust it to first so a throw could be made for a try for two.

Update, 2:19: Sabathia is done after RBI double by Myers. Aceves on. A diminished Sabathia would be a big concern at this point, to state the obvious.

Update, 2:37: Solarte strands two in scoring position to end the fourth, still 5-1. The Yankees have three hits.

Update, 2:54: Aceves gave up a couple of hits and needed a visit from the trainer during the fifth, but he escaped unscathed. Looked like he had some problems with his right leg, but not sure.

Update, 3:08: First and second and no one out and the Yankees can’t score.

Update, 3:22: Bedard has a 1-2-3 inning in the sixth. The Yankees have a run and five hits.

Update, 3:37: Bedard is pulled after Solarte’s leadoff single in the seventh, sixth hit off him. Lefty Jake McGee is the new pitcher.

Update, 3:49: First and third, two outs and Jeter hits into a force. 5-1 Rays after seven.

Update, 3:55: Nice job by Aceves in long relief, no runs, three hits, 4 1/3 after a 1-2-3 eighth.

Update, 4:02: The Yankees go down in order in the eighth against Peralta. It started raining in the top of the eighth.

Update, 4:11: Aceves works 5 1/3, gives up just three singles, retires his final 12 batters. Balfour tries to close it out.

Update, 4:23: Yankees lose 5-1. On to Anaheim.

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347 Responses to “Game 30: Yankees (16-13) vs. Rays (14-17)”

  1. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Go Yankees, Go CC!!

  2. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    CC just can’t locate at all. He should be able to dominate this lineup.

  3. egk May 4th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Sabathia stinking it up already after just 7 pitches.

  4. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
    Jimk,

    I won’t be able to watch it..So tell me what you think

  5. BoJo May 4th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Yankees rotation right now is “Tanaka for a win, and wait till we see him again.”

  6. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Forty five minutes may be enough..

  7. BoJo May 4th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    REPOST

    Hey Exiled….

    I don’t know you very well and you certainly don’t know much about me, but for some reason a few folks here asked me to let you know that they are willing to help you get to NY to see a Yankee game. They asked me to facilitate it (probably through Chad somehow).

    I have no idea if this even interests you, or how you want to proceed to protect your privacy, but if you want to do this, i’d be happy to help in whatever manner you suggest.
    ———–
    I won’t bother you again with this if you are not interested.

  8. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Can someone pitch Longoria inside please?!?!?! I am sick and tired of watching them pitch him on the same way every single at bat and it never leads to an out. The Yankees scouting reports are pathetic and need to change.

  9. scuzzles May 4th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Here we go. Our 5th starter is stinking it up again.

  10. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Luis, I will only be able to watch 1/2 hour to 45 minutes at most.

  11. Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    CC being CC so far

  12. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Captain,

    I totally agree. Get them off the outer part of the plate.

  13. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    JimK May 4th, 2014 at 1:14 pm
    Luis, I will only be able to watch 1/2 hour to 45 minutes at most.

    ==============

    Damn!!

  14. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    Luis, based on the outcome I may watch the replay; if so I will let you know my opinion.

  15. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    BoJo May 4th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
    Hey Exiled….

    I don’t know you very well and you certainly don’t know much about me, but for some reason a few folks here asked me to let you know that they are willing to help you get to NY to see a Yankee game. They asked me to facilitate it (probably through Chad somehow).

    I have no idea if this even interests you, or how you want to proceed to protect your privacy, but if you want to do this, i’d be happy to help in whatever manner you suggest.

    Bojo, That’s an overwhelming offer. Nothing would make me happier. But I wouldn’t know how to proceed at this time. And, yes after the warnings from JAP and others I’m concerned about
    offers from African Princes I don’t know much about.

    Until I can figure it out, thank them for me

  16. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    I am not sure CC has the velo or command to get in longoria’s kitchen too often without getting hurt. but you guys are right, that’s whole idea of pitching,

  17. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    BoJo May 4th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Chip==
    The reason I would be willing (reluctantly) to finally trade Cervelli is because I am beginning to think that luck just isn’t on his side. I love the kid, but would like to see him fulfill his dreams–even if it means going elsewhere.
    ——————

    Well the way I look at it, even if he was healthy I would still deal Cervelli. He’s not going to start ahead of McCann and you’ve got better players in Murphy and Sanchez behind him. It may be that the Yankees wind up keeping Cervelli and trading Murphy because teams will offer them more for Murphy than they would for Cervelli because JR looks to have starter potential whereas Cervy is strictly a BUC.

  18. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    I hate watching CC pitch now. His starts used to be the best to watch through the rotation and now they are the worst. His mechanics are all over the place and he is just batting practice. I really wonder if he will be able to Pettitte himself or if this is what he is.

  19. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    Can this pitching staff stop giving up early runs!!!! CC off to another rough start.. When does he figure this out?????

  20. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    Longoria hits like Ted Williams vs CC, I’d say just walk him but Myers is behind him…

  21. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
    I think people who are always down on their team do so because it is too stressful for them to be disappointed, so if they are always seeing the negative they can only be pleasantly surprised :) I do think the board overall,could do,with less declarations of fact and more nuanced arguments. The Yankees aren’t anything right now – they are in the process of becoming.

    =====================

    This is a thoughtful post…And yes, I do tend to lower expectations a bit to lessen the blow just in case..But about what the team is..It was based on their Pythagorean record of last season, you substract the wins of the players not retained and add the ones of those signed… When you do that, it gives you an idea of where the team capabilities are..Is it exact?, no…But it’s a good guideline

  22. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    because JR looks to have starter potential whereas Cervy is strictly a BUC.

    Way too early to come to this conclusion.

  23. Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Luis thanks for the reply. Do you know the accuracy of the Pythagorean projections?

  24. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    I am not sure CC has the velo or command to get in longoria’s kitchen too often without getting hurt
    ———–

    It’s time to try something new and pound him inside. You can’t pitch a batter the same way every single time up which is what they do. Every at bat to him to outside corner, outside corner which doesn’t make any sense since his swing is to RF. I am sure he is waiting for it and already knows how they are going to pitch him. It’s pathetic to watch.

  25. cofuzz May 4th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    It may be time to bat Jeter 8th or 9th.
    Name him #2 Emeritus and move him down where a .240 hitter with little power belongs.

  26. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
    Luis thanks for the reply. Do you know the accuracy of the Pythagorean projections?

    ==================

    i think it is +/- 5 If I am not mistaken…I am for 90 wins on the chart..So even I am hoping for the best ;)

  27. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    This team has given up 20 more runs than last year after 29 games. Somehow the pitching is worst than last year and the infield even more pourous. Losing Robbie was bigger than just the offence lost.

  28. BoJo May 4th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Exiled–

    I have to go out for the day, but let me see if I can come up with some suggestions. I’ll post them here and let you get feedback from others to see if they are good enough to protect your privacy.

    There are several people here pulling for you. So where there is a will, there is a way.

  29. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Clutch, you can’t be predictable is right.

  30. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    Bojo thank you

  31. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    because JR looks to have starter potential whereas Cervy is strictly a BUC.

    Way too early to come to this conclusion.
    ————-

    Not really – Cervelli’s last three years, including this one, have been marred by ineffectiveness (when he was demoted on the last day of spring training) and injury. He’s 28 – I don’t think there’s a single team in the league that looks and says “he could be a starter for us.” On the other hand Murphy is 22 with power potential and has improved every year…teams can look at that and say, “with the right progression he can be a starter.”

  32. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    CC looked much better this inning; hope he keeps it up. Gotta run have a good day all.

  33. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Jose abreu just hit another one, having a sizzling start .

  34. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Just checked and Cano has a .708 ops, wow.

  35. pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Wow, did Tex just go the other way?

  36. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Poet,

    I feel a little better after your accurate psychoanalysis of me.

  37. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    random thought, weird that I don’t see any yankee farm hand equip with a slider in their arsenal, or maybe just rarely?

  38. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    69,

    What kind of pitch was it?

  39. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
    Poet,

    I feel a little better after your accurate psychoanalysis of me.

    ====================

    It was a very good post +1

  40. pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    What kind of pitch was it?
    ———-
    Actually didn’t see the pitch (finishing up a bit of work while I watch the game), just the liner heading into right center

  41. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Runners on 2nd and 3rd and it sounds like the yanks are the away team. No noise at all.

  42. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
    What kind of pitch was it?
    ———-
    Actually didn’t see the pitch (finishing up a bit of work while I watch the game), just the liner heading into right center

    ===============

    Oh..I forgot, he is batting right handed..Nevermind…I wanted to know if it was a high FB or a breaking pitch..But I wanted to know if he did it as a LH hitter.

    Solarte has a very good approach as well

  43. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    I am glad that they scored the runner from 3rd but it would be nice to get both runs. They have to do more damage against a garbage pitcher in these spots.

  44. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
    random thought, weird that I don’t see any yankee farm hand equip with a slider in their arsenal, or maybe just rarely?

    ===============
    Nardy Contreras was of the line of thinking that the slider was bad for the elbow…So they scratched that pitch from most of the farm hands

  45. Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Really love Solarte’s tools.

    Austin – that made me laugh :) Thanks Luis. I teach high school, so I see the same in students with regards to tests etc.

  46. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    situational hitting, Solarte did what Kelly failed to do.

  47. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    come on Gardner, driver that ball!

  48. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    *drive

  49. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    Not really – Cervelli’s last three years, including this one, have been marred by ineffectiveness (when he was demoted on the last day of spring training) and injury. He’s 28 – I don’t think there’s a single team in the league that looks and says “he could be a starter for us.” On the other hand Murphy is 22 with power potential and has improved every year…teams can look at that and say, “with the right progression he can be a starter.”

    ====================

    Good post

  50. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Gardner is completely lost…

  51. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    thanks luis, that don’t make any sense to me. pitching is bad for your elbow.

  52. Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    Gardner strike out way too much for a slap hitter.

  53. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    A team might prefer Murphy because of his age and years of control left, it’s too early to say who is going to be the better player, that was my point.

  54. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Sabathia just can’t put hitters away. Another two-strike laser off him.

  55. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Cashmoney May 4th, 2014 at 1:42 pm
    thanks luis, that don’t make any sense to me. pitching is bad for your elbow.

    ==================

    NP…. That’s true, but some pitches put more strain on the elbow than others..Or so it goes the theory..Frankly, I think it goes from one individual to another…I blew up my shoulder, not my elbow..In fact, my elbow is pretty good..And I threw the slider since I was 17-18

  56. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    In a vacuum Cervelli will show a hit tool. But we don’t play in a vacuum. He is pretty much all he’s ever gonna be. Murphy has the tools to progress into a catcher that you plug in for 10-12 years and forget.

  57. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    crap

  58. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    OMG…Add OF defense to our woes???

  59. jackamir May 4th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Gardner OVERRATED AND OVER PAID.. What a throwing arm.

  60. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Plain and simple — Sabathia sucks. Another two-strike bomb. What a joke.

  61. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Nice hustle Beltran.

  62. egk May 4th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    During the Seattle series the announcers talked a lot about the perception of Cano being lazy. Cano seemed like Charlie Hustle compared to what i’ve seen of Beltran.

  63. blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I would have rather that ball just went over the fence

  64. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    When was the last inside-the-park home run at the stadium?

  65. blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    CC had Myers set up for a CU there and grooved a fastball?

  66. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    Blake – what happened?

  67. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    Pull this clown. Another terrific contract courtesy of Yankee’s brass.

  68. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    CC had Myers set up for a CU there and grooved a fastball?
    ——————-

    Hard to tell the difference between his CU and fastball these days.

  69. jlyanks85 May 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    This bum Myers sucks against the rest of the league, but pounds us. Like these guys turn into hall of farmers vs Yankees.

  70. charlestonchew May 4th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Bedard is garbage. We’ll win this game.

  71. longtimefan May 4th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Beltran old and slow not a smart signing but a reaction to Cano leaving now must tolerate this guy for 3 years, Sabathia more a 4 or 5 starter

  72. Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Remember the first 3 games when the Yankees looked like the bad news bears? They have returned. And CC should be sent to the minors to learn how to pitch with reduced velocity. The.big league is not the appropriate place to learn how to do something.

  73. blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Hard to tell the difference between his CU and fastball these days.”

    True but it was a crappy sinker that didn’t do anything …..basically an 86 mph BP fastball

  74. blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    CC threw a good 2 seamer to get strike 2 …..then instead of going off speed he backed it up with a crappy one and Myers hit it……those are the mistakes CC cannot make with his current stuff

  75. massjake May 4th, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Sit Beltran for that embarrassment. Put Ichiro out there. Inexcusable

  76. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Charleston — unlike Girardi, Maddon won’t hesitate to pull Bedard. And CC is no better than Bedard.

  77. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Beltran hasn’t been the same since he ran over that wall in Tampa. He was actually playing quite well to that point.

  78. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    It’s sad how bad CC is now. He has nothing.

  79. blake May 4th, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Captain Clutch says:
    May 4, 2014 at 1:58 pm
    It’s sad how bad CC is now. He has nothing.

    He looks like SF Barry Zito

  80. luis May 4th, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    86 MPH FB? He has dropped 4 more miles from last season…

  81. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    All pitchers throw some pitches in bad locations. When CC does it, he gets hammered. I’m not sure I see this getting better over the long haul.

  82. jlyanks85 May 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Hard to win games when every time CC pitches when he keeps having innings giving up 3-4 runs.

  83. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Absent injury, it is unusual to see such a precipitous drop in velocity two straight years.

  84. blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    luis says:
    May 4, 2014 at 1:59 pm
    86 MPH FB? He has dropped 4 more miles from last season…

    Well the one before was 90…..I think he tried to turn over a sinker and it just didn’t do anything …… He simply is in the middle of the plate way too much…..he gets careless because he used to he away with it. He has to get it threw his head that he HAS to miss off the plate when he misses…..he can’t ever be in the middle anymore

  85. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Cannot blame the OF play
    Not there fault that CC is batting practice pitcher. There is no point in defending him – i not attacking him personally. The numbers are all the keen insight we need. Nothing left. Nada. Zilch. Burned out by mid 2010

  86. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    This team is going to get pummeled by a hot Angels’ offense. And then it’s off to Milwaukee.

  87. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    jlyanks85 May 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
    This bum Myers sucks against the rest of the league, but pounds us. Like these guys turn into hall of farmers vs Yankees.
    —————————————————————————————————-

    He only pounds the Yankees, because the Yankees are the only team in the league who ONLY pitches him outside. Look at the FX data. They pitch him and Longo the same way. Outside, outside, more outside, not one pitch inside.

    So he does what any smart hitter will do in that case, lean to the outside corner and push the ball to the other side.

    He knows, what’s coming, I know what is coming, my imaginary dog knows what’s coming… everyone knows any pitch will be outside….

    It is just common sense, the Yankees pitching plan against him and Longo is the worse I have seen in the league. For some reason, the Yankees keeps doing it expecting different results.

  88. blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Beltran didn’t hustle but I’m no sure it would have mattered…..the truth is that that pitch deserved to be hit 450 feet

  89. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Beltran is NOT an outfielder anymore. They have to DH him and let Ichiro play RF everyday. I know that Girardi wants to throw him out there so they can have the best offense on the field but you can’t do it.

  90. Poetkiosk May 4th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    The reason why Pettite and Mussina remained good pitchers as they got older is that they are both naturally bright people.

    CC doesn’t seem to have the same type of baseball mind. He relied so heavily on being a flame thrower that he never learned how to pitch smartly.

    I know it would never happen, but letting him pitch in less pressurized situations in the minors would let hm figure this out. Right now hes stuck and has been stuck for the last two years.

  91. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
    luis says:
    May 4, 2014 at 1:59 pm
    86 MPH FB? He has dropped 4 more miles from last season…

    Well the one before was 90…..I think he tried to turn over a sinker and it just didn’t do anything …… He simply is in the middle of the plate way too much…..he gets careless because he used to he away with it. He has to get it threw his head that he HAS to miss off the plate when he misses…..he can’t ever be in the middle anymore

    =========================

    Pretty much.. Nothing to add ;)

  92. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    And here I am posting again, because I get so frustrated with the way they keep pitching outside to these hitters.

    They make them look like HOF when they play the Yankees, and it all has to do with their game pitching plan.

    It is just common sense and good baseball acumen, just pitch inside for God sake….

    Everyone else does it and they hit for above .200 against the rest of the league…

  93. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    I can’t believe that they can’t hit batting practice Bedard. He is absolute garbage and the offense is sleeping again.

  94. jlyanks85 May 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
    I can’t believe that they can’t hit batting practice Bedard. He is absolute garbage and the offense is sleeping again.

    Hard to win games every day when you pitching puts you in a hole. I don’t care who the pitcher they are facing is.

  95. cofuzz May 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Smart move by me to put Myers in my fantasy lineup against the junkballer who hasn’t figured out what to do with his junk.
    Hard to see Bedard so much more effective with his garbage.

  96. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Nine runs yesterday sure sent everyone home happy but I guess it means they won’t score consistently again until Thursday

  97. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Hard to win with Little League “D”

  98. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Poet,

    I do think CC will figure it out…Mussina had that horrible year just before his 20 wins season…Perhaps it will take him a bit longer… Pettitte never had overpowering stuff, so his bread and butter was outstanding command and his off the charts cutter

    WT2,

    Not to mention that as being RH thy need to pitch inside to force to go in to the big part of the park

  99. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Hard to watch Jeter, both in the field and at the plate. He used to pull the ball on occasion. Now — never. Everything is inside/out.

  100. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Who knows if CC will ever figure anything out?
    We don’t even know if there IS anything to “figure out”.

  101. blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    I still think CC can figure this out but the only way is for him to gain a fear of the middle of the plate…..not the strike zone or contact ….but he has to learn to avoid the middle of the plate at all costs.

  102. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:03 pm
    Beltran didn’t hustle but I’m no sure it would have mattered…..the truth is that that pitch deserved to be hit 450 feet
    —————————————————————————————————-
    x100
    You could see Myers leaning to the outside corner in the few pitches before… they are ALL outside.

    It all comes back to the poor Yankees gameplan against Longo and Myers… which is the same…

  103. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    luis -

    CC has now had 2 poor seasons, and he’s a prime example why those long term contracts are simply a bad idea for teams, but great for players.

  104. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    CC has turned into a very costly BP pitcher, sad.

  105. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    9 hits and counting . . . bullpen still quiet

  106. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
    luis -

    CC has now had 2 poor seasons, and he’s a prime example why those long term contracts are simply a bad idea for teams, but great for players.

    ===========================

    No argument there in a vacuum… Context is important..But yeah, in general LT deals should be reserved for mid 20′s players

  107. pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Need a lucky DP here badly

  108. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    WT2,

    Not to mention that as being RH thy need to pitch inside to force to go in to the big part of the park
    —————————————————————————————————-

    Right? You would think it is common sense, but apparently it is not for the Yankees pitchers/Rotschild.

    I think Larry Rotschild is a very good pitching coach, but how can you let this happen with the same hitters and not change your gameplan.

  109. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Tex has lost a step with his glove.

  110. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    CC can’t put anyone away. When he gets to 2 strikes he is like Phil Hughes. They foul off pitch after pitch and eventually get a hit. He was never a location pitcher and it’s going to be very to start now.

  111. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    Tex has lost a step with his glove.
    ————-

    I think it’s because he missed so much time last year. He needs a month or so to get rid of the cobwebs.

  112. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Long hitting… first pitch outside. Second pitch slide down the middle of the plate…

    3rd pitch outside again, Longo barely missed….

    4th pitch was supposed to be inside… Sebathia missed his spot and left it middle in… even by missing his spot, you saw the results there… Longo barely hit it with the inside of his bat????

    Why? Because he was leaning to the outside corner trying to hit it the other side…

    It is just baseball common sense..

  113. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Get CC out of the game….

  114. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    WT2 -

    It makes no difference what the game plan is, if the pitcher does not execute. Once again, CC fails to cover, I’d pull his butt out of the game, he may still think he’s an ace, but right now, he’s nothing but a #6 SP.

    Girardi, grow a pair and go get him.

  115. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    WT2,

    Not a big fan of LR to tell you the truth… But in this case I think it has more to do with the pitcher..Especially if he is a veteran like C…It is his choice in the end…The catcher might call for a pitch inside and he can wave him and change it

  116. pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Boy was that ugly

  117. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Wow this is ugly.

  118. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Absolute joke. 10 hits in 3.2 innings. He’s not even a decent #4/5 starter. Everythings scorched.

  119. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Myers… outside pitch…

    Sebathia is gone…

    Again, just common sense, pitch inside… They know what is coming. Everyone does.

    I have no idea who came up with this pitching game plan against the Rays but it is horrible…

    They make the Rays hitters look like HOFs… how frustrating.

  120. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    CC forgot he lost a 100 lbs and can cover 1st base on a ball to the right side now…..

  121. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    wow this is worse than bad.

  122. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    It is a shame than I am stuck with radio broadcast..Especially if it is Sterling and Susyn..You miss so much, no matter how accurate the broadcaster is.

  123. blake May 4th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Tough to watch the big man at this point……

    @jasoncollette: New feature in Yankee Stadium http://t.co/YMmmAMdTJ2

  124. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    When you have one starter that can pitch past the 6th inning, it’s game over. Sugarcoat it anyway you want, but this team will struggle to play .500 baseball this year.

  125. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:19 pm
    WT2,

    Not a big fan of LR to tell you the truth… But in this case I think it has more to do with the pitcher..Especially if he is a veteran like C…It is his choice in the end…The catcher might call for a pitch inside and he can wave him and change it
    ————————————————————————————————-

    Luis,

    I thought about that too at first, so I decided to pay more attention to the Yankees gameplan when pitching to Longo and Myers.

    Tanka was doing the same thing yesterday… that is when I finally exploded and started writing to take my frustrations away…

    It is their gameplan, not just the pitcher… sadly.

  126. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Nuno is our #2 pitcher right now. After that it’s a crapshoot.

  127. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Nuno is our #2 pitcher right now. After that it’s a crapshoot.

  128. austinmac May 4th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    CC’s demise and the injuries have shattered the rotation. Phelps, who can maybe go five innings, Nuno, who is usually out after four, and CC, a former innings eater. This kills a team from having to come back so often and the pen will burn out.

    In reality, this team is in big trouble because of it.

  129. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Now, Aceves is pitching.

    He already went up and in.

    Let see how Rodriguez react.. another Yankee killer, who barely hit anyone else in the league.

    Although he has been hot lately.

  130. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    I have no idea who came up with this pitching game plan against the Rays but it is horrible…

    They make the Rays hitters look like HOFs… how frustrating.
    ————-

    Yep. They pitch Longoria and Myers the same exact way every time. Maybe they should watch how the Sox pitch to them since they usually struggle and look terrible in those series.

  131. pkyankfan69 May 4th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Well, silver lining, for this game anyway, still only down 4 with crappy ass Bedard on the mound and a lousy BP behind him. Still a very winable game if Aceves can throw a decent 2 innings or so.

  132. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    And Rodriguez stroke out… he didn’t even look competitive in that at bat.

    All it takes is one pitch inside….

    Again, maybe I am just dumb, because I don’t get it.

    For me is baseball 101.

  133. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Aceves was 93mph up and in. Then two nice breaking pitches away. Can’t throw in when you are tossing 85mph.

  134. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Optimistic fans, teach me how to be one of you.

    Its safe to say CC isnt a good pitcher at this point. Not even close to the ace he supposedly was.

    The rotation, our apparent strenght, is not anymore. Ironic that our rookie Tanaka is the steady anchor of it.

    Defense continues to be an issue, and while in the infield Jeter and Roberts no longer should be there, Beltran seems to be the case in the outfield.

    The offense would have to be dominant to ivercome thia, but they are mediocre at best.

  135. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    They should make Betances a starter and when Pineda gets back they might have 3 good starters, and Kuroda and CC can try to veteran their way through the season.

    Otherwise they are toast unless there are big turnarounds for Kuroda and CC. Kuroda I have hope, CC has nothing.

  136. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Hard to stomach, but by comparison, Boston has 4 starters who give quality starts on a regular basis. They’re going to have to convert both Warren and Betances at this rate. Cannot run the same garbage out there every 5 days.

  137. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Put a fork in CC, he’s done!! He lost it quickly over the last year. Without him being CC this team will not succeed!

  138. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Pettitte was successful with a 89-90mph cutter to the righty batters back foot. CC needs that pitch.

  139. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    The sad part about this game is that the Yanks can’t touch Bedard. It’s pathetic how this lineup has games where they are totally sleeping and can’t do a thing.

  140. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Time to re-work the rotation, and put Tanaka at #1 where he belongs, and stretch out the best of your BP pitchers, and add them to the rotation, you’ll need them sooner than later.

    The Yankees can no longer expect CC or Kuroda to be more than they’ve shown thus far.

  141. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Yep. They pitch Longoria and Myers the same exact way every time. Maybe they should watch how the Sox pitch to them since they usually struggle and look terrible in those series.
    ——————————————————————————————————

    This….

    Longo and Myers look really bad against the Sox and it is because they pound them inside with hard stuff, then outside with slow stuff and back inside.

    Pretty much, they are automatic outs. You can see it in their body language before their at bats.

    It is like they do like to hit against the RS. And that is why.

  142. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Beltran needs to sit for 2-3 days. It’s obvious that he isn’t 100 percent.

  143. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    It’s past time for Cashman to do a lot of screaming, and get this team to wake up.

  144. user13 May 4th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Anyone want to give Andy a call?

  145. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    The team is in first place. Why good would Cashman screaming do? A bunch of upper 30 yr old vets are going to respond to GM screaming?

  146. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Beltran had one good week. Beyond that he’s been terrible — both on O and D. Another stellar pick-up.

  147. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    Kuroda isn’t quite as bad as he’s looked. He needs a great defensive infield behind him. He can’t give up extra pitches to routine ground balls. Tanaka’s plobably gained a run to his ERA on balls this infield can’t get to. Then the pitch counts go up. They’re gonna need 20 BP arms befor their done.

  148. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    They need to fly Pettitte in to work with CC. I doubt that Rothschild can help him and they desperately need someone to help him get right. But if he isn’t going to locate then he is finished because he can’t survive with the location that he has now.

  149. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Watch Aceves shutting down the Rays from now on.

    He will pound them inside.

    It is early in the game… if the Yankees actually score some runs, they have a chance.

    That is why the Yankees FO/management used to say this “Mexican kid” could pitch.

    Regardless of stuff, he is not afraid and he pitches inside and outside. He is unpredictable.

  150. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Heh Girardi, sit this team down and tell them if you do not produce, you do not play, regardless of your contract, you do not hustle, you do not play, and if you’re not hitting, you move down in the line-up, until you move to the bench. You’re expected to play hard on every play, you’re expected to be a professional, now, from this point on don’t expect me to write you in on the line-up card if you don’t deserve to be there.

  151. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Solarte falling back to earth. A single would have been huge there.

  152. mnmboys May 4th, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    He hit it on the screws. Can’t complain about that.

  153. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    State of the rotation:

    1. Tanaka
    2.
    3.
    4. Kuroda
    5. Nuno

    Pineda is needed and he has the talent to be a #2 if heis healthy.

    We need to see what Phelps can do as a starter, but he may not be a nice #3. If Kuroda could improve, he would.

    Nuno hasnt proved to be a starter. Cant have a starter consistently give you less than 6 innings, which is why CC isnt in that list and should be dropped from the rotation.

    I’d really stretch Betances or Warren at this point.

  154. luis May 4th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Come on…Aceves is hurt?

  155. BIG AL May 4th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:35 pm
    They need to fly Pettitte in to work with CC. I doubt that Rothschild can help him and they desperately need someone to help him get right. But if he isn’t going to locate then he is finished because he can’t survive with the location that he has now.
    ******************************************
    Pettitte did work with CC, but CC did not want to learn, and stopped trying to throw the slidder. It’s hard to work with a guy that’s not willing to do what’s necessary.

  156. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Is CC the worst starting pitcher in baseball since last April?

  157. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    If Aceves is hurt then this team is really in trouble. The bullpen is going to be a mess.

  158. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    I cant believe this team spent so much and looksto be with sooo many holes.

  159. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Tanaka is a really good #2 at this point to me. But the potential to be a number #1 is there. He gives up long balls early in games and like I said before, Infield range puts him in high pitch numbers and additional base runners to deal with.

  160. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Cashman really messed up this pitching staff. If he actually signed a reliever or 2 like they desperately needed then Phelps and Warren would be available to start. He basically ignored the bullpen and infield and it was and still is puzzling.

  161. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Aceves hurt? Ok, the sky is falling. Well, more appropiate, the pitchers are falling down!

  162. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Is CC the worst starting pitcher in baseball since last April?
    ——————–
    David Lennon ?@DPLennon 20m

    That’s a 5.75 ERA for CC. Only three qualified MLB starters worse: Correia (6.09), Salazar (5.93), Nolasco (5.82).

  163. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Aceves is probably not 100% but it doesn’t matter since the yanks offense is sleep walking. Might as well keep him in considering the score.

  164. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Thing is, there have been some relievers available the last few weeks.

    This management is a mess. They seem to be adamant on using the minors for the bullpen and made a HUGE mistake taking Nuno, Warren and Phelps as bullpen. I could understand the logic behind Betances, but right now he would be an improvement over diminished CC.

  165. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Who backs up Phelps tomorrow? You know he’s not going more than 5 innings. Same with Nuno on Wednesday.

  166. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Cashman really messed up this pitching staff. If he actually signed a reliever or 2 like they desperately needed then Phelps and Warren would be available to start. He basically ignored the bullpen and infield and it was and still is puzzling.
    ———————-

    Signing relief pitchers wasn’t the problem. Relievers are fungible. Taking the Yankees’ 6, 7 and 8 starters and putting them in the bullpen was the mistake.

    The team would have been fine if they had broken camp with a bullpen of:

    LHP – Cabral, Thornton
    RHP – Phelps, Claiborne, Betances, Kelley, Robertson

    and left Nuno and Warren in AAA getting extended.

  167. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Chip May 4th, 2014 at 2:48 pm
    bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Is CC the worst starting pitcher in baseball since last April?
    ——————–
    David Lennon ?@DPLennon 20m

    That’s a 5.75 ERA for CC. Only three qualified MLB starters worse: Correia (6.09), Salazar (5.93), Nolasco (5.82).

    —–

    Wasn’t CC also near the bottom last year as well for starters?

    CC, Jeter and Tex have always been the intractable problems for this team. There’s not a damn thing anyone can do if they don’t perform except hope for an injury. Who knows. If CC had gotten hurt early last year maybe the Yanks make the playoffs.

    So far Tex has been better than I or most anyone could have expected. CC is worse. And Jeter. Well, it don’t look too good does it?

  168. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Who backs up Phelps tomorrow? You know he’s not going more than 5 innings. Same with Nuno on Wednesday.
    —————-

    They’ll probably call up a pitcher again.

  169. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Again, Aceves is going to shut them down.

    Let hope the Yankees remember how to hit.

    This is where Bedard starts imploding normally.

  170. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    So far Tex has been better than I or most anyone could have expected. CC is worse. And Jeter. Well, it don’t look too good does it?
    ———————

    Jeter will be fine. Bad stretches are amplified early in the season because of the small sample size. You enter the game at .275 go 0-6 and your BA is down to .200, go 4-6 and it’s at .315.

  171. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Is the bigger story from the game that CC stinks or that this offense once again can’t hit a terrible pitcher?

  172. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Jeter deserves more than 30 games after being off a year. I still say he needs DH days to stay good with the bat. Joe has not seen fit to DH Derek a single game. Tex is better than expected and still has rust to shake off. But at least he shows some emotion. C.C is toast. And not in a good way. The kind you toss out.

  173. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    So frustrating that a seasoned pitcher like CC can’t adjust and continues to get pounded by mediocre lineups and this lineup can’t hit mediocre pitchers.

  174. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    I like this Murphy kid. He should stay on the team and when Cervelli is healthy they should trade him. Murphy is much, much better defensively than Cervelli is behind the plate.

  175. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Murphy can sure hit. I have no idea what the Yankees are planning to do with him, but this kid looks ready for the big show to me.

    I really thought he needed 1-2 more years in the minors but he doesn’t look overmatch out there even when he is an out.

    Line drive hitter, love it. I miss those type of hitters in the Yankees lineup.

  176. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    He can’t hit into a dp, can he?

  177. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Signing relief pitchers wasn’t the problem. Relievers are fungible. Taking the Yankees’ 6, 7 and 8 starters and putting them in the bullpen was the mistake.
    ————-

    Exactly. My point was that they didn’t sign any relievers so they had to take all of those guys and make them relievers. If they had 2 relievers that wouldn’t be a problem.

  178. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    The annual RISP disease is uncanny
    The players keep changing and we know it’s not the pinstripes. Dr house would say the common thread is KLong

  179. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    I think Jeter is keenly aware that he’s stayed on too long. He looks awful.

  180. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    I know that we aren’t allowed to say anything bad about Jeter but he really looks bad. I really wonder how much he has left offensively and defensively. Batting him 2nd at this point is ridiculous.

  181. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Signing relief pitchers wasn’t the problem. Relievers are fungible. Taking the Yankees’ 6, 7 and 8 starters and putting them in the bullpen was the mistake.
    ————-

    Exactly. My point was that they didn’t sign any relievers so they had to take all of those guys and make them relievers. If they had 2 relievers that wouldn’t be a problem.
    ————————–

    That’s my point though – even without signing anyone else, they still didn’t have to take Phelps, Warren and Nuno.

  182. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    Just joining up. Only heard about the homer on the radio, and I see Aceves is pitching. So other than seeing the score, I don’t know any particulars.

    They say that at times words have no wisdom. For me this is one of those times. So no analysis about what this may or may not be.

    GO YANKEES!!!

    GO PITCHER!!!

  183. charlestonchew May 4th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    This offense is painful to watch. My god.

  184. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Bedard dominating them. Enough said.

  185. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    I’m thinking I need to have a backup plan to my loud, preseason “yanks will win the AL” campaign

    One by one the players looked desirable and ready to do some damage. But here we are on May 4 and the jalopy is starting to gurgle and belch out black smoke

  186. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    I wonder how much CC’s rapid decline weighs on the mind of the Boston people when it comes to Lester’s contract?

  187. Chip May 4th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Apparently Gary Sanchez hit a mammoth HR in Trenton.

  188. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Nice effort, Carlos . . . again

  189. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    I think Lester would never come here
    He’s a schilling Beckett Yankee hating disciple

  190. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    2 on and nobody out and not one run can score.. Absolutely pitiful. Different lineup but the same results with RISP and shoddy pitching and defense!!

  191. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    Who knows what went wrong in Boston
    Wife beating, managerial run-ins, bad blood
    But Ace can pitch the spit out of the ball and he’s fearless

  192. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Aceves looks as good as he ever has.

  193. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    It’s amazing how dead this lineup can be on some days especially against such a terrible pitcher. The Rays throw out a AAA lineup everyday and they always figure out a way to score runs.

  194. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Hel, I’d start Aceves next time through the rotation and tell C.C to go see a Doctor. Cause he ain’t right. Burn treatment might help.

  195. charlestonchew May 4th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Bedard is pitching like crap, but we keep swinging at balls. It’s infuriating. We could have walked 5-10 times in this game already if hitters would just be patient. Besides that, Bedard keeps leaving balls over the plate and instead of hitting them hard we’re popping them up.

  196. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Can we just end this? They obviously have given up.

  197. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Another pathetic inning…

    Watch Bedard give up 7 runs in his next outing….

  198. SweetSpot May 4th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    I’m not worried about the bats they will come around, their resumes are too good not to. Now, on the other hand, I am very concerned about CC and Kuroda. If they were close to normal we would have an eight game lead.

  199. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    exiled, I saw Bojo’s post to you. I wasn’t going to say anything but now that he did, I can say that it’s a darned shame that you were told to watch out corresponding via email immediately after it appeared that I was going to perhaps move on something to help you out. Because Prufrock has done this repeatedly (and thankfully people haven’t listened to him and are still alive to talk about it) I even gave you the option to dealing directly with Chad so that no personal information had to be exchanged. I had several people contact me via email saying they wanted to help out but wanted to remain anonymous.

    The offer is still there. And you can choose to deal strictly with Chad or through Bojo or anyone else. Why you would think for a minute that I would email you with that kind of offer in order to do anything that would hurt you is not only unbelievable, it’s preposterous.

    Nothing more to say.

  200. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    This has to be the year that KLong is let go
    It just has to

  201. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    They should keep Aceves in the rotation. He might be a little nutty (understatement) but he can pitch and knows to get guys out.

  202. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    There is no question that Aceves can locate his pitches better and has better stuff than Sabathia. Can’t wait to see CC again in 5 days.

  203. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Cashman gritting his teeth and murmuring ” hold it together until my minor leagues get get. Hold it together until my minor leaguers get here.” I just hope he can and they do because this slip is terrible

  204. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Hassey, you and others may be right about K. Long. But the question I always ask when people talk about letting go of a coach is this. When there’s an explosion of offense – whenever there is – is there any positive implication regarding the hitting coach? I really don’t know the answer to this, if indeed there is a discernible answer.

  205. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    We know the post-game script: “Bedard’s tough . . . he’s got good moment . . . tricky lefty . . . kept us off-balance all afternoon.” And from Jeter: “He was just better than us today.”

  206. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Well Scranton has scored 16 runs today. Flores two hits, a homer and 3 RBIs. Zoilo three hits and two RBIs. I think this guy Antoan Richardson would be a credible backup CF for Ellsbury.

    Time to bring in some young blood. This line up looks dead. Trade Gardner and the floodgates of youth can open. Who knows what would happen then. Maybe Jeter and Beltran would actually get a hit.

    Oh, and please get Warren into the starting rotation.

  207. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Can they actually take advantage of this situation? Or will they waste it again.

  208. charlestonchew May 4th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    This probably sounds batsh*t crazy, but right now I can’t wait for ARod to be back in this lineup. Say what you will about him, but he can hit. Definitely better than Solarte or Johnson or Roberts.

  209. Shame Spencer May 4th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Man all that good juju from yesterday has disappeared… Hope they find their way back into this one, I’d hate to drop another series.

  210. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    bigdan, why would Scranton make a difference? Wouldn’t the logical place to draw from be AAA?

  211. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    It’s tough to score with runners on 1st and 2nd with no one out, apparently.

  212. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Shame, I don’t get it. I can’t go any further than that without just throwing out a ton of guesses.

  213. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Jeter is soooo lost. It’s sad to watch.

  214. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    A proposal: Jeter, Beltran, and CC for a good sourdough sandwich.

  215. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    “bigdan, why would Scranton make a difference? Wouldn’t the logical place to draw from be AAA?”

    —-

    ?

  216. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Hard to watch on days when the ability to get runs in appears nonexistent. No need to exaggerate and say it’s every day because it’s not. But I know when things are going sour it feels that way.

  217. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    YES has done such an outstanding job of drilling Jeter’s milestones into our subconscious that I can’t even remember the last time he got a big hit in a game situation as opposed to his personal achievements

  218. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    bigdan – DUH!!!

    You’re saying Scranton, I’m thinking Trenton.

    Never mind.

    :)

  219. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    another two on, no out inning and nothing across.. I’m so disgusted and mad with the lack of anything with this team against the Rays. Thanks CC for putting the team down so quickly! Ace pitched well in relief. Jeter is done!

  220. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Is that the 3rd or 4th time they had 2 guys on and couldn’t score?

  221. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Can’t put this whole game on Jeter. The only guy in the lineup who’s had competitive ABs with RISP was Solarte and he lined out twice.

    Team looks really really old.

  222. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    Talk about earning your contract. He is such a good good good player.

  223. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Roberts on the bench adjusting the neck chain on his bifocals so he could see the crossword better and watch his program

  224. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    I really think that they have to re think how they are using Jeter. He should play 3 times or so a week and bat lower in the order. Maybe if he didn’t play everyday he would be better in the field and even at the plate. Everyday is too much for him and I think they should protect him more so he doesn’t feel embarrassed about his play this year.

  225. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    In my mind I’m giving ace a standing O

  226. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Interesting timing right? Aceves may be ready for the rotation again.

  227. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Aceves does look very good.

    Captain — you’re right, but it’ll never happen.

    Expectations just need to be realistic with this team. Best case: no one takes off in the AL East and they can somehow stay close enough to be competitive in September.

  228. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Beltran has gone into hibernation.

  229. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Beltran loves that 1st pitch…

  230. bigdan22 May 4th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    “I really think that they have to re think how they are using Jeter. He should play 3 times or so a week and bat lower in the order. Maybe if he didn’t play everyday he would be better in the field and even at the plate. Everyday is too much for him and I think they should protect him more so he doesn’t feel embarrassed about his play this year.”

    ——

    They have to figure out something. Baseball is hard to figure because it’s a game of failure and it takes a large SS to know what’s real. But you don’t want the house to burn down before you realize you haven’t turned off the gas.

    Jeter has to take the initiative here. There’s really no way for the team to minimize his role. He has to make the offer. Pretty sad watching him play so poorly.

  231. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Jeter and Beltran batting 2 & 3 is insane.

  232. Shame Spencer May 4th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    We have a lot of streaky, one dimensional hitters.

  233. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    St Louis is a fountain of youth
    The Bronx is the fountain of oldth

  234. ac1 May 4th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    After seeing Aceves, you almost have to give him a spot in the rotation.
    He looked better today than CC or Kuroda have all season.

    It’s really hard to see how fast CC and Kuroda have just lost it.

    Cannot have your #1 and #2 pitchers with 5+ ERAs.

  235. mick May 4th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    “Tar-Sorry to hear about your child.”

    “didn’t you say he/she was ill?”

    Now if you didn’t know our history, a normal person would cringe at what he said. Knowing our history just confirms that he is a cretin. BTW he is not dumb and he knew exactly what he was doing. But in typical mick fashion he failed miserably.
    ================================
    I fail to see the logic.
    We don’t like each other, fine.
    I felt bad for you tho’ so I expressed some compassion.
    I think the problem is yours but still feel sorry for your misfortune.

  236. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Just end this miserable game already! This team had a better record with scrubs at this same time last year and better pitching. How is that possible??

  237. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    As a fan I’m not big on team meetings. After all, what the heck do us couch jockeys know about what’s going on in heads, in the lockertoom and behind the scenes. But right now someone has to say something to someone, somewhere and sometime soon before this thing spirals out of control. We look awful in all game phases. Ace should be our starter, long man and closer

  238. Hankflorida May 4th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    The Yankees are 0 for 7 today with RISP, and going from our one dimensional home run hitting team to contact hitters does not mean that they make contact with RISP. Now that the starting pitching is beginning to look like a few years ago, maybe our one dimensional team was not so bad after all as they got us to October.

  239. ac1 May 4th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Aceves clearly had past personal issues, but when he was playing for us the first time, it was very good.

    He is still fairly young.

    There may be a spot for him here beyond this year, because this is definitely Kuroda’s last year here, Nova won’t be back until next summer, CC is barely a #5 at this point and maybe they can find someone who will trade for him (maybe).

    Something just clearly needs to change here.

  240. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Hassey – there was a time that Cashman took it upon himself to visit with the team on the road and have just that kind of pep talk. It appears that it doesn’t happen anymore.

  241. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    Hassey — what do you say? Don’t be old? I really don’t what know can be said. CC and Kuroda are shot. The offense isn’t good and the defense is terrible. It is what it is.

  242. mick May 4th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    BTW he is not dumb and he knew exactly what he was doing.
    ====================
    You tell me Tar, what was I trying to do?

  243. ac1 May 4th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    What are the positives so far this year?

    1. Tanaka is an ACE
    2. Ellsbury has looked good so far
    3. Tex is actually hitting from the left side
    4. Ichiro – but plays once a week
    5. Betances
    6. Solarte so far better than expected
    7. Murphy – but plays once a week

    Not a lot of positives so far.

  244. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    I think that Kuroda, Beltran and McCann will be fine. At this point I really wonder if CC will be able to fix himself.

  245. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Another positive: the rest of the AL East has been just as mediocre.

  246. longtimefan May 4th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Who goes when Ryan returns?

  247. Jerkface May 4th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Who goes when Ryan returns?

    Pineda

  248. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Good
    Get these guys out of town so they can lose 5 of six against anyone other than the Yankees

  249. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Maybe the offense will wake up one of these days. That is going to be a tough series against the Angels if they don’t hit with Phelps, Kuroda and Nuno pitching.

  250. Ken Phelps May 4th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Captain Clutch says:
    May 4, 2014 at 4:13 pm
    I think that Kuroda, Beltran and McCann will be fine. At this point I really wonder if CC will be able to fix himself.
    —–
    Beltran and mccan yes. I think cc might be shot and Kuroda is a problem. Cc is a bigger problem.

  251. Jerkface May 4th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Jeter and Beltran are playing like they are 47 right now.

  252. Captain Clutch May 4th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Also the Yanks only have 7 home games this month. Ouch…

  253. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    No answers. Just a bunch of questions.

    :(

    (It doesn’t mean that there are no answers coming or it has to be fatal. It just means that right now lots of things are just puzzling to me.)

  254. Hassey May 4th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Thecte so far is like Burl Ives’ island of misfit toys

  255. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Thank god that is over.. This team is a joke right now!

  256. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Beltran has been terrible and there seems to be no effort from him. He doesn’t run in the outfield and he swings at garbage. Not impressed whatsoever.

  257. igotid88 May 4th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    How were people here treating Aceves?

  258. NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    If Beltran’s dream was to always be a Yankee then how come he doesn’t play like it. Having him and Jeter in the top of the lineup sucks right now

  259. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Aceves was great. In fact, he was the only bright spot today. He throws inside and has good stuff.

  260. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Not much you can even do with CC at this point. He doesn’t have enough velocity to be put in the pen and is too expensive to trade. Maybe he needs a phantom injury to go down to Tampa and try to figure some things out.

  261. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Beltran does have 5 hr, at least thats something….

  262. bbb51 May 4th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Beltran should have backed up on that play, but I think he either expected that ball to go out or was not expecting Ellsbury to crash. Not an excuse but I don’t think he was just being lazy.

    The hitting slump is far more important. Hopefully he gets out of it soon.

    Of course, if we only have one good starting pitcher it won’t matter…

  263. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    “Beltran has been terrible and there seems to be no effort from him. He doesn’t run in the outfield and he swings at garbage. Not impressed whatsoever.”

    It all seems so un-Beltran like. Is it possible he’s still hurt from when had his collision?

  264. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    CC is now Phil Hughes…..

  265. igotid88 May 4th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    At least Hughes is helping keep the Yankees in 1st. Twins winning against the O’s so far in the 7th

  266. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    If you’re going to overpay, which the Yanks do in every instance, at least pay for quality. I guess that’s what you do when you have a crappy farm system, but c’mon.

    I really believe Girardi does the best with what he has. I don’t see how Cashman continually gets a free pass. Give most of the folks on this blog blank checks and they wouldn’t do any worse. Just lousy.

  267. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    I alluded to it earlier, but with 4 good starters, I see Boston eventually pulling away. Baltimore and TB probably don’t have enough pitching, but they’ll hang around for a while.

  268. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    If they hadn’t extended CC, i believe his contract would have been up at the end of this season. Of course, at the time, he was the only sure thing. Just goes to show how fast pitchers can lose it.

  269. TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Boston offense is worse than the Yankees. Baltimore is the team we need to worry about.

  270. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Baltimore doesn’t have the pitching. Boston won’t hit like this all season. Lester, Lackey, Peavy, and Bucholtz are better than everything we have except for Tanaka.

  271. G. Love May 4th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Everything people thought was wrong on this team on Thursday/Friday was not washed away because of a good Tanaka win yesterday.

    The pitching is compromised. The hitting looks similar to last year. We know where this is headed with no changes and “patience” that borders on disinterest.

    They made Bedard look like the pitcher he was 8 years ago…but oh well, guess it just wasn’t our day. That’s baseball Suzyn. Keep that thinking up. We’ll be lucky to play .500 ball.

  272. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
    If Beltran’s dream was to always be a Yankee then how come he doesn’t play like it. Having him and Jeter in the top of the lineup sucks right now
    —————————————————————————————–
    Beltran has been hurt since the wall collision.

    You can tell by the way he is protecting himself when swinging.

    There is no way he would let a fastball in the middle of the plate go by him otherwise.

    He is one of the best fastball hitters I have seen.

  273. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Exactly, GL

  274. WT2 May 4th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    NYY fan in NH May 4th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
    If Beltran’s dream was to always be a Yankee then how come he doesn’t play like it. Having him and Jeter in the top of the lineup sucks right now
    ———————————————————————————————–
    With that said he should put his pride aside and let Joe knows since the Yankees have more than enough depth in the outfield to cover for him.

  275. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Not only did Hughes pitch well against Baltimore (I still don’t like him), but Trevor Plouffe and Kurt Suzuki have 22 RBI each, more than anyone on the Yanks. You can’t make this stuff up.

  276. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    “Beltran has been hurt since the wall collision.

    You can tell by the way he is protecting himself when swinging.

    There is no way he would let a fastball in the middle of the plate go by him otherwise.

    He is one of the best fastball hitters I have seen.”

    Exactly, WT2.

  277. Yankees_Fan May 4th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    If Beltran is injured, disable him for a while. No use to have him if he is a liability on both ends.

  278. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    WT2 — Then maybe you don’t sign brittle 37-year-olds to $45M contracts. Sit his ass down, if he’s hurt.

  279. UnKnown May 4th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Umps got us again I see…grrr.

  280. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    We’ve made a lot of excuses on this putrid homestand. But today’s game was a total embarrassment in all phases. Sabathia is done; the offense was completely shut down by Eric Bedard (are you kidding me?).

    The Angels are hitting everything and they will pound Phelps, Kuroda and Nuno. Get ready for mid-week call-ups to add to an exhausted bullpen.

  281. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 4th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    “Umps got us again I see…grrr.”

    Immature taunt. Not unexpected.

    *****************

    “If Beltran is injured, disable him for a while. No use to have him if he is a liability on both ends.”

    Of course the problem is getting him to admit he’s injured, if he is. Pretty typical of ballplayers, it seems. Wrong, but typical.

  282. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    ScottSJ

    The Sox have gotten 132 innings out of Mr Duracell the Laptop man the past two seasons, I wouldn’t count on him to last the season.

  283. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Excuse me he’s up to 140.

    About due for his neck or back to go take your pick.

  284. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    Rhapsody — so what? Until he’s hurt again, he’s better than anyone other than Tanaka.

  285. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    ScottSJ.

    Maybe, but you’re the one making long term predictions.

  286. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    RIB,
    Nothing to see here. Any catching on the streams?

  287. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Missed the game but the box score seems to say a lot. A big stinker against the Rays 6th SP’er who has not had a W in almost a year. CC lite not very good. Jeter and Beltran continue their lack of production. I do think Beltran has not been healthy since he hit the wall in Tampa, and posted his stats since then yesterday, but Joe should know this and not have him hit 3rd until he recovers.

    If CC and Kuroda don’t pitch well this year, stick a fork in the season. I don’t care how well Tanaka pitches, or Pineda in his 15-20 remaining starts, its not enough. Not predicting CC and Kuroda won’t pitch well mind you, just saying they must

    Aceves had a pretty nice line. I think he got a bad rap since he dared to standup to the showboat of Boston and got on the bad side of the Red Sox PR machine which trashed his reputation. However, the guy is a competitor and had a rubber arm. Bobby V abused him in the way he confront get used Aceves and his stuff fell off for awhile as he recovered. Good guy to have in a bench clearing brawl too, not that the Yankees do any of them anymore.

  288. ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Rhapsody — not trying to argue; just frustrated by what looms ahead and how this team was constructed. When does Cashman ever get shown the door? We’ve seen enough. The master plan is not working.

    I’m sorry, but watching Jeter try to hit and play defense is beyond painful. Who knows if Beltran is hurt, but he’s looked like a lazy sack of poo for quite some time. Phelps and Nuno following Sabathia and Kuroda? I’ll take 4 laptops and risk the injury.

  289. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    TheStraw May 4th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Boston offense is worse than the Yankees. Baltimore is the team we need to worry about.
    =================

    Boston has more pitching than Baltimore who won’t see the 2013 Davis this year with his oblique. They also have help down in the farm and the financial flexibility to make a huge deal to upgrade the offense. They are the bigger threat IMO.

  290. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Tom

    I drove down to the Delaware yesterday. Spring is on hold. There are no bugs coming off the water up in my neck of the woods so I thought I’d take a day trip.

    Streams are high, even down on the Delaware R. there is still no foliage. I followed the East Branch of the Delaware down to the main stem then onto the West branch on the way home. Few guide boats and fisherman out. Not many places that I could wade.

    But the true test is no bugs/mayflies on my windshield. I’ve had April’s down on the Delaware the mayflies were coming off the 2nd week. Depressing as hell.

  291. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vyw5HqubNSY#

    Audrey Hepburn, wow, she did, and does, it all!

  292. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    RIB,
    Think of it this way: when the flies do show up, those trout are going to be hungry as hell. I know you don’t like to, but stream a few nymphs, just for fun.

  293. Your Name Here May 4th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Aceves’ reputation was trashed when he was with the yanks the first time. Remember the scooter incident?

  294. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Tom

    I could nymph or fish with streamers but I prefer not to.

    So much fun taking them on the surface with a dry fly.

  295. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    tom, thanks for the advice again, me and my kid and her mother aren’t going to have anybody touch them.

  296. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    ScottinSJ May 4th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    If you’re going to overpay, which the Yanks do in every instance, at least pay for quality. I guess that’s what you do when you have a crappy farm system, but c’mon.
    ========================

    They got the best OF’er, Pitcher and C on the market. Beltran was a budget signing by comparison. There was not much else out there except Choo and Hal didn’t want to spend anymore. Beltran was very good until he ran over that wall. Joe just needs to rest him until he is 100%. Ichiro has been hitting farely well and with Tex back the offense can do fine without an outmaker batting 3rd behind the other outmaker of late batting 2nd.

    I think Cashman is kind of hamstrung by ownership, but I also think they need some new blood and fresh ideas.

  297. mick May 4th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    “Umps got us again I see…grrr.”

    Immature taunt. Not unexpected.
    =======================
    Immaturity is the hallmark of that group.
    They worship it and emulate it.

  298. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    Your Name – I vaguely remember something. I did a quick search but didn’t come up with anything… what was the scooter incident?

  299. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    RIB, Glenn Gould is scaring those fish away again in that gas boat of his. ” Save the fish! ” :D

  300. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    jmills,
    Thanks for the thanks, but when did I offer advice to you, and what about?

  301. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Your Name Here May 4th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Aceves’ reputation was trashed when he was with the yanks the first time. Remember the scooter incident?
    ====================

    Did not know an offseason bicycle accident could trash your reputation. Key word accident. Maybe I am missing something.

  302. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    chicken, I put premium in the ’91 Prelude today, took it on the HWY, it was fine. Don’t worry its going to my mechanic prior to you in the passenger seat! :)

  303. mick May 4th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    This team is searching for an identity.
    They have some of the components.
    Why is Beltran in RF? Especial-ly if he is hurt.
    How long will he leave Jeter in the 2 hole? You know it will be Ellsbury-Gardner next year.
    Why not now?
    Wasn’t last nights game and the one in Toronto where they went a combined 10-18 with 5 stolen bases enough for you or are these just some of the allotted losses you are willing to absorb till Jeter gets hurt and you make the change?
    CC and Kuroda , if shot, levels the playing field. NObody has pitching so the strongest bullpen will survive.

  304. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    jmills

    I probably could come to like Glenn Gould as much as I could a Kayaker.

  305. jmills May 4th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    tom, you gave the wise advice I came to ask for ( Sartre said, one goes to the person who is going to give them the answer I want ). My partner gets a shotgun if that’s what she thinks she needs. I suppport her all the way in that respect.

  306. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    jmills – lol! looking forward to it. My work fate should be decided this week… I’ll drop you a line when its settled so we can make final plans

  307. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Nova and Pineda have knocked this team out of sync.

  308. mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Nova and Pineda have knocked this team out of sync.
    ========================
    They never proved anything to me.
    The lineup is the problem.
    It is chaotic and makes no sense from day to day.
    Ichiro will be in RF before long.
    Beltran can DH.

  309. tomingeorgia May 4th, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    jmills, a 20 pump, I trust, 18.5 inch. Make her learn to use it, live fire, so she wouldn’t be scared if she had to use it. Sorry I was so dense.

  310. RhapsodyInBlue May 4th, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    We were in better shape with Nova and Pineda healthy but I agree on Ichiro.

  311. Doreen May 4th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Cashman is doing what his owners have told him to do. Stay under budget (or on budget) while maintaining name recognition with players who might have something left in te tank who will be motivated/energized by being in New York.

    Still and all, thiscteam is Bette than they’ve shown I the last week/10 days. The starting pitching, however has done a 180 and inspires minimal compnfidence right now.

  312. mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Girardi looked lost in the postgame saying we will have to do something about that referring to Beltrans play or lack of it on the inside the parker.
    How much longer he goes with CC until they DL him is beyond me and him when he was asked about CC.
    Aceves is still in the pen according to Joe. Not for long IMO.

  313. mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    They are getting beat by good pitching.
    Say what you will about Bedard but he stood them on their heads today.

  314. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    They are getting beat by good pitching.
    Say what you will about Bedard but he stood them on their heads today.
    ================================

    Only had 5 games against a SP’er with an ERA in the top 30 of the AL (under an ERA of 4 and qualified for ERA title). Bad hitting can make mediocre pitching look good,

    The team is in a slump. Nothing looks all that good right now except perhaps the bullpen. They are better than this, but how much better is anyones guess.

  315. Doreen May 4th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Pete 22,

    Exactly. What I tried to say before the iPad mangled my post. Lol. This team is not as bad as they’ve looked, but it’s not certain how much better.

    The pitching s what really worries me.

  316. mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Ichiro should be in the lineup everyday in RF till Zoilo is ready.
    Beltran and Soriano should platoon at DH.

  317. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    As of right now the Y’s are playing at a pace to win 86-87 games, but, and this is a big but, they need to beat the teams they are supposed to beat(e.g. Mariners and Astros).

  318. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    mick May 4th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    “CC and Kuroda , if shot, levels the playing field. NObody has pitching so the strongest bullpen will survive.”

    ======================

    I have to disagree. Red Sox top 3 SP’ers have ERA’s of 2.59, 2.87 and 3.72 and Buchholz and Doubront have pitched better of late. They also have some arms in the farm system who can help later this year and can easily upgrade via trade since they are under budget and have prospects to deal..

    You need 3 decent SP’ers to get far in the playoffs. If the playoffs started today they only have 1 you could count on. Maybe CC and Kuroda pitch better. Maybe Pineda comes back to give them another 20 strong starts. Maybe Banuelos is ready to help by the 2nd half. I dunno.

  319. mick May 4th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Beltran is hitting 233 vs leftys, Soriano 203 vs rightys.
    Beltran can’t move in the OF, he might be hurt and looks fat and old.
    Ichiro is hitting 333 vs rightys and 444 vs leftys.
    Ride it while it’s hot…

  320. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    pete22 – a while back I wondered aloud on here about how much a player’s position in the draft is tied to future success. You replied with some stats you had found regarding 1st and 2nd rounders. I’m still intrigued by the subject but have had limited success finding any data. Any suggestions on websites that may help?

  321. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Side Note: Phil Hughes is 3-1 and his ERA is now under 5; he also kept the O’s scoreless for 5 innings.

  322. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    “OMG, am I here all alone”

  323. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    JimK – no, I’m still here… Just trying to think of something profound to say (I anticipate being silent for quite a while) :)

  324. sammiejohnson May 4th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    ” Just trying to think of something profound to say (I anticipate being silent for quite a while)”

    Chicken – This is why I am sometimes silent for weeks at a time!

  325. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Thanks Chicken, I just felt Dylan’s “Ballad of a Thin Man” seemed appropriate at the time; and I think I will take your cue and remain silent for quite a while, except I doubt even my next post will come anywhere close to being profound.

  326. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    JimK I went and looked up Hughes stats after you posted. He has a really wierd reverse split. Leftys are hitting .205 and rightys .367 of Phil.

  327. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Sammie – you don’t have me fooled… you stay silent while pondering the next bad pun to spring on us :)

  328. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    JimK – just joking. My next profound statement will be my first. So, I figure why not just post a lot of inane ramblings. Quantity over quality I always say :)

  329. sammiejohnson May 4th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Chicken:

    Eggs-actly!

    Man that was bad…..

  330. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    Exiled, I know I said I would take Chicken’s cue and remain silent for a while, but since you addressed me in your post I would just like to take the time to thank you.

    PS: I only posted the info on Hughes to see if it would generate any discussion; I doubt he would have been any different with the Y’s as he has been over the past several years.

  331. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Chicken, I think the last profound thing I said was “momma.”

  332. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Jimk – I haven’t interacted with you a lot and I know tone can be misread in text… just wanted to let you know I was joking about myself… Wasn’t trying to give you a hint at all

  333. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Jim I agree. Phil is still wildly inconsistant. He’s great in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. 1st inning and 5th and beyond not good at all.

  334. Against All Odds May 4th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    You tell me Tar, what was I trying to do?

    ————–

    back handed compliment?? Maybe that’s where he thinks you were trying to do.

  335. mick May 4th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    back handed compliment??
    ====================
    complimenting him on what?

  336. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Chicken, I was not offended. I only post here intermittently, and rarely get involved in too many discussions. My most recent example involved several regulars here and “umpire strike calls going against the Y’s;” after maybe 2-3 responses on my part I gave up.

    Exiled, Hughes is still the Pitcher he was with the Y’s.

  337. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Exiled/JimK – I went to Baltimore and got to see Phil pitch early, early in his career. During the game, I told my brother that Phil’s release point and arm angle at release was totally wrong… A couple of days later, it was reported that he had an injury (I think it was in the rib area)… Well, I almost separated my shoulder by patting myself on the back for being so astute. When he came back, I watched him pitch again and realized that the arm angle and release was exactly the same! At that point, I decided to retire from my position as unpaid pitching expert and knower of all things )

  338. mick May 4th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    At that point, I decided to retire from my position as unpaid pitching expert and knower of all things )
    ===============
    Don’t worry we have plenty of them here..

  339. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    Btw, Sammie – good one actually :)

  340. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    pete22 – a while back I wondered aloud on here about how much a player’s position in the draft is tied to future success. You replied with some stats you had found regarding 1st and 2nd rounders. I’m still intrigued by the subject but have had limited success finding any data. Any suggestions on websites that may help?
    ====================

    I don’t remember what I posted. I had done some of my own research using B-Refs draft section so might have been that. There are a few articles which have some information on the subject.

    Here is one of them

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....raft-picks

  341. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    chicken, Phil always looked like he was throwing darts in a bar to me. I’m glad he’s a twin and I wish him well. But I don’t miss him.

  342. exiledintampa May 4th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    chicken———–>

  343. chicken_stanley May 4th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Thanks pete. I’d like to dig into it a bit

  344. JimK May 4th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Chicken, at least you recognized Hughes problem early on, I think the Y’s FO opinion on Hughes was based entirely on his Texas “no-hitter” start. (I know he had a great 1st half in 2009, but he was also the beneficiary of great run support.)

  345. pete22 May 4th, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Yankees now with the 13 th highest SP ERA in the AL. Only the White Sox and Astros are worse.

    Bullpen is 6th, but its actually been better than that i think. There were a couple of games that inflated that by pitchers who have long since departed (Cabral, Leroux, Anna, Daley)

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  347. Bronwyn Murrietta September 1st, 2014 at 2:13 am

    This seems like a great solution to welcome artists. I love this strategy. And I also appreciate Tarte, that is right around the corner from my office )

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