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Banuelos limited early so that he’ll be available late

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 08, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Manny Banuelos

In his first year back from Tommy John surgery, Manny Banuelos has been extremely limited so far this season. He’s made seven starts, and all have been cutoff at three innings (with one exception, when he simply didn’t last that long). He’s pitched well — more than a strikeout per inning, only three walks so far, a .182 opponents’ batting average since his promotion to Double-A — but the the Yankees are treating him with kids gloves through this first month plus.

That’s because they want to feel free to let him loose later in the season.

“He’ll increase over the course of the year,” vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman said. “We don’t want to cut back at the end of the year. You never know, if he makes great progress, maybe he’s a major league option (at some point). We don’t’ want to run out of innings by September 1 or August 1.”

Because of the surgery, and because he’s never thrown more than 129.2 innings in a season, Banuelos will not be allowed to throw the equivalant of a full season. He will inevitably be limited at some point, and the Yankees would rather he be limited now — while he’s a minor leaguer knocking the rust off — rather than late in the season when he could very well be one of the Yankees 12 best pitchers and a legitimately useful piece in New York.

It’s kind of the opposite of the way the Yankees handled Michael Pineda. With Pineda, the Yankees knew they couldn’t get 200 innings this season, but as long as he was helping at the major-league level, the Yankees weren’t going to significantly limit Pineda’s workload until they had to. With Banuelos, there’s no harm in limiting the workload now so that he’s fully available later.

Newman said that Banuelos will be a normal starter next season. For now, the Yankees are basically picking their battles with him.

“We’re going to make sure we have enough innings left at the end of the year,”

BaileyANOTHER LATE-SEASON POSSIBILITY
Another pitcher who could play a big league role late in the season is veteran reliever Andrew Bailey, who is at the minor league complex rehabbing his way back from Tommy John surgery.

Signed this spring, Bailey is still doing a throwing program to build arm strength and is not yet throwing bullpens.

“He’s a ways away,” Newman said. “But we’re going to keep working at it because obviously he could be a big factor for us.”

Plenty more minor league notes from Newman coming soon. The word count was getting completely out of control, so I decided to pull out the Banuelos stuff as it’s own post. We’ll hit on some other minor league items — injury updates, the surgery decision for Jose Campos, the resurgence of Dante Bichette Jr. — a little later.

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177 Responses to “Banuelos limited early so that he’ll be available late”

  1. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    That’s because they want to feel free to let him loose later in the season.

    —————-

    So. Exciting.

  2. Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    As long as he gets his 100+ innings I’m fine with whatever, though I’d prefer no bullpen for Manny.

  3. Giuseppe Franco May 8th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    The stuff with Torre is different than the recent stuff with Mo just because Torre told some really, really personal stories… he aired not just opinions there, but dirty laundry. It was low, IMO. I hated feeling bad for Kevin Brown.
    —-

    Yeah, Torre really came off as petty and bitter in that book. Maybe our culture now is just more accepting of that kind of behavior with celebrities trash talking and participating in cyber duels on Twitter and other social networking sites regularly.

    I guess I haven’t yet adapted to modern times.

    Aside from the royalties a tell-all book generates, I don’t ever see the upside in writing them. A book can be 99% positive and uplifting but the 1% that isn’t is what the media and fans focus on and gets all the headlines.

  4. Giuseppe Franco May 8th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Today is a rather exciting day for me regarding the NFL Draft because I can hardly wait to see just how my Miami Dolphins will screw up yet another draft for like the 13th time in the last 14 years.

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    repost:

    I think it’s a dumb idea altogether. What did they do, pull names out of a hat? Will this be an annual event? And luis and Big Al, I am totally with you on tattle-tale Torre – unless, of course, it was a totally strategic move in the hopes that in the future, if there are any improprieties uncovered on national television, such as the what happened with Bucholz, Tazawa, and Pineda using illegal substances to help with their pitching, Torre will see fit to go and warm more than the Yankees.

    What a joke.

  6. Chip May 8th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    As long as he gets his 100+ innings I’m fine with whatever, though I’d prefer no bullpen for Manny.
    ————————

    As long as they don’t do any warm up – sit down – warm up stuff with him I’m ok with it.

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    That should have been warn, not warm. Though warm could fit.

  8. Chip May 8th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    The problem I had with Torre’s book is that it revealed him to be a hypocrite. For years all we heard from Torre was how he believes what happens in the clubhouse should stay in the clubhouse and then the minute he’s out the door he writes a tell-all.

  9. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    The position on Torre and Mariano is hypocritical, there is no difference; you are rationalizing and trying to defend Mariano. The reality is that books have ZERO to do with on the field performance and accordingly, honors one might receive for them.

    Six penants and 4 world series speaks loudest of all. Torre was the manager, the buck stops there, it is to his credit since they won and it would have been his responsibility if they had lost. I couldn’t be happier for “Mr. Torre” as Jeter calls him.

    Let’s wait and see what Mariano says about Torre in his book. I haven’t read it of course and know nothing about what he may have said if anything, but I would bet he did and it was overwhelmingly positive.

  10. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    seems alot like the reaction to “ball four” when it came out.

  11. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    There’s a difference between confidentiality when playing together and later on. It’s why Mariano never said anything publicly about Cano when they were teammates. This is a sport not the CIA.

  12. Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    How can you not tell the difference between giving an opnion and talking about events that occurred behind closed doors?

    Mariano gave what he believes is an honest assessment of Cano, he didn’t talk about some embarrassing moment that happened with Cano that only Yankee players would know about. Torre’s book was filled with recollections of private events.

    There is a big difference between,”Player X is a jerk” and “Player X used to jerk it”

  13. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Chad, thanks and looking forward to more MiLB news. No surprises that they are limiting Manny’s innings. He looked good in his last start after the first inning control issues. He is pitching vs. Biddle tomorrow. I think he will just get sharper and sharper. Should be fun to watch.

    The new Monument Park is an abomination, sadly. I haven’t even had the desire to venture into it. We took a ton of pictures of the old one during the last game in OYS. It’s nice to have these tributes, but I really do think they are mostly a way of the Yanks selling tickets.

  14. Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    I like tell alls because I’m a gossipy sob that should probably be working for the NSA, but I can at least understand why people dislike them. There is a definite expectation of privacy for pro players. Guys who break that get shunned.

  15. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Any player who expects complete and permanent confidenciality from all of his 30-something teammates plus dozens more coaches, trainers and team personnell who go in and out of the clubhouse daily is nuts. No such protection exsists. If you don’t want to be made to look the fool for your behavior, just don’t behave like a fool, and then you’ve got nothing to worry about.

    I understand that team issues should be settled in the clubhouse and not made public during the season, but beyond that it’s totally unrealistic to think that your “team time” is or should be kept private.

  16. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Also Chad, any additional info on Heatchcott? I think he should be back at any moment. Also what about their mindset regarding Feliz now playing LF? Thanks!

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    “The problem I had with Torre’s book is that it revealed him to be a hypocrite. For years all we heard from Torre was how he believes what happens in the clubhouse should stay in the clubhouse and then the minute he’s out the door he writes a tell-all.”

    Absolutely. Torre helped drum Jeff Nelson out of the organization after Nelson complained to the press about his feelings about not being selected by Torre to be on the All Star team. You know, the Jeff Nelson with the 2.45 ERA the season before he ended up in Seattle?

    “Last year, Yankees middle reliever Jeff Nelson thought he deserved to be selected, and when Torre did not pick him, Nelson criticized Torre. Now Nelson is with the Mariners, in Seattle, where the All-Star Game will be played. How would Nelson feel if Stanton was picked to pitch in Seattle? ”I imagine he wouldn’t be real happy,” Stanton said, chuckling.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06.....ation.html

    Hypocrite of the highest order. The worst part of his tattle-tale book is that he couldn’t even wait until he was out of baseball to do it.

  18. Hassey May 8th, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    2012 Yankees update:
    Swish .200
    Grandy .176
    Raul .146
    Martin .242

    Now THAT would be some lineup this year

  19. Chip May 8th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    There’s a difference between confidentiality when playing together and later on. It’s why Mariano never said anything publicly about Cano when they were teammates. This is a sport not the CIA.
    —————————

    It takes more guts to be publicly critical of a player or teammate when you’re there than when you’re out the door.

  20. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    it looks like torre would have to write his book from the grave if he was going to wait till he was out of baseball.

  21. RhapsodyInBlue May 8th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    I wonder Mariano would have made the same comments if Cano didn’t leave for greener pastures.

    And then Cano continues to bad mouth the Yankees playing victim instead being a stand up guy and admitting he did it for the money, which no one can blame him for.

    As far as I’m concerned Mariano threw the 2nd baseman for the Mariners under the bus.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Sweet Spot – come on now. Number one – Mariano is no longer part of the game. Whether it makes it right or wrong, he isn’t. And he didn’t say Cano stunk. Quite the opposite. Torre couldn’t wait to sob to the press, as he was on he was to manage another team. I don’t remember Mariano telling about how Cano lay down in the fetal position and cried. There is no comparison in what the two did. One gave his opinion on the drive (or lack thereof) he saw in another player while still complimenting him. The other gave nasty and vindictive stories about players who obviously weren’t his faves. NO COMPARISON.

  23. Hassey May 8th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    The old Cano would rap the bus right down the left field line

  24. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    I’ll stand by my position on Torre; everyone is entitled to theirs. He was a great manager, a class act and I will be forever appreciative of the world championships and pennants. It’s pretty revealing and significant what the Core Four have to say about him. They know him better than anyone.

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    “it looks like torre would have to write his book from the grave if he was going to wait till he was out of baseball.”

    Managing a team. You know, managing?

  26. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Someone got me Torre’s book for Christmas or my birthday the year it came out. I still haven’t opened it. And I am happy I have not.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    And if he had a modicum of class, he never would have written it.

    And if he had a modicum of integrity he never would have given the command for the Yankees to start their game against Detroit in the playoffs when they knew a monsoon was on the way, nor would he have singled out the Yankees to visit and give a warning to regarding pine tar when nary a word was said to the Sux when Chucky was caught cheating on national television.

    I have three words for him: vindictive old man.

  28. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    I guess I haven’t yet adapted to modern times.

    ———–

    Nah, it’s not really a generational thing. I still think that thing with Torre was garbage and I’m in my 20s.

    (It’s getting nearer and nearer to 30 sadly… I started coming to this blog when I was 19!!) :shock:

  29. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    I just can’t get over the fact that people think Mariano doesnt have the right to air his opinions. So…he doesnt think cano works hard enough….he’s allowed to think that whether you agree or not.

    torre deserves to be honored for his accomplishments and put up on a wall with a bunch of other very accomplished baseball people, be they hypocrites, racists, drunks, cheaters, tightwads or whatever. If we cut it down to the ‘hall of the perfect’ they could fit it in a broom closet somewhere. (instead of the restaurant basement)

  30. mick May 8th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    The other gave nasty and vindictive stories about players who obviously weren’t his faves. NO COMPARISON.
    ======================
    Couldn’t he not stand M. Kay?
    Can’t be that bad a guy..

  31. Giuseppe Franco May 8th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Any player who expects complete and permanent confidenciality from all of his 30-something teammates plus dozens more coaches, trainers and team personnell who go in and out of the clubhouse daily is nuts. No such protection exsists. If you don’t want to be made to look the fool for your behavior, just don’t behave like a fool, and then you’ve got nothing to worry about.

    —–

    First off, the only guys in an organization who are going to be writing tell all books are a select few – star players or perhaps the manager if he’s also a star.

    Nobody is going to read a book written by the journeyman middle reliever or the clubhouse attendee so they don’t get written in the first place.

    These guys spend so much time around each other throughout the season they become your family. That’s why there is a level of trust and confidentiality expected in the clubhouse and those who betray that trust in a tell all book come off as a traitor.

    Ask Derek Jeter if he liked what his buddy A-Rod said about him in that infamous Vanity Fair piece over a decade ago.

    Players don’t like being dissed in public by current or former teammates.

  32. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    “It’s pretty revealing and significant what the Core Four have to say about him. They know him better than anyone.”

    I will respect your opinion but it’s because he treated the Core Four like kings that they have good things to say about him. Try interviewing the arms of the pitchers who no longer have careers because of him, the ones he threw on the scrap heap after he used them up. I’d love to hear what they have to say about him.

  33. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Trisha that’s your opinion and I respect your right to believe what you do. Whether on the field or off, many pro athletes are hardly icons of morality. You can differentiate on the field and off actions, I understand that. Some may find what Torre did distasteful, he wrote a book. Others may find players that cheat on their wives, drink excessively, get arrested and take steroids to be far worse and I do think personal lives often effect what goes on between the lines. Anyone who doesn’t think that what Billy Martin and Mickey did at night didn’t affect their performance at the ballpark is wrong.

    Be that as it may, Torre is having his number retired for a reason and it would be ridiculous in my opinion to not do so because of a book.

  34. RhapsodyInBlue May 8th, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    By the same token there are a few fans who don’t take kindly to a player leaving the Yankees for for more money which was understandable but since then bad mouthing the organization.

    The’s the part that gets left out of the conversation.

  35. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    “First off, the only guys in an organization who are going to be writing tell all books are a select few – star players or perhaps the manager if he’s also a star.”
    ==================================================
    HA! MR. Met just wrote a book that people are snapping up!

  36. luis May 8th, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
    Someone got me Torre’s book for Christmas or my birthday the year it came out. I still haven’t opened it. And I am happy I have not.

    =================

    My wife gave it to me as a birthday present, thinking that I would love to have it…I read it, because I didn’t want to upset her and make her feel bad…But it’s just a piece of trash from a very disgruntled and vindictive person…Not the nice “old papa” image he tries to portray..Yet, the conversation started about this new “homage” the team is planning for certain players…Which I still think is all a PR gambit

  37. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Torre’s management of relief pitchers is another issue, I have questions about that as well although I think that was never done in a void without the complicity of the General Manager and even the ballplayer. Torre was trying to win, I doubt a medical position paper was ever put in front of him that spoke to what the ramifications could be down the road for overworked pitchers. Hindsight is 20-20 and I do not believe Torre did anything intentionally. Mistakes were made.

  38. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
    The position on Torre and Mariano is hypocritical, there is no difference; you are rationalizing and trying to defend Mariano. The reality is that books have ZERO to do with on the field performance and accordingly, honors one might receive for them.
    ********************************************
    There is a great difference! Mo simply stated Cano was a great player, that didn’t reach his full potential because Mo felt he lacked a fire in his belly to be the very best. This is far different from a manager writing a book, and giving the dirt on his players, and private information that took part in the club house. Torre also ruined as many pitching arms as he could, he cared little to a players future, only what he needed at that point in time, a complete opposite of how Girardi handles his staff. If Torre were our current manager, I’d bet the farm D-Rob’s arm would have fallen off by now. Torre won more due to the talent he was handed, than his ability to manage them. Simply look at Torre’s record as a manager for teams other than the Yankees.

    As you said, records speak for themselves;

    Mets – 1977-1981 286-420
    Braves – 1982-1984 257-229
    St. Louis – 1990-1995 351-354
    Dodgers – 2008-2010 251-220

    Non Yankees record is; 1145-1223
    Not very impressive is it?

    New York Yankees record; 1173-767
    The difference is not the manager, it’s the players!

  39. mick May 8th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Try interviewing the arms of the pitchers who no longer have careers because of him,
    ==========================
    This is what we call the Proctorization Process.

  40. Chip May 8th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Honestly, I think the Yankees are now becoming caricatures of themselves. Torre deserves to have his number retired and get a plaque. Bernie, Posada, Andy, Mo and Jeter too – but much as I love O’Neill and Tino…no. It would be like putting Boggs or Brosius or Wells in there.

    It seems to me that they’re doing this just to bring more people to the park and not because the players were especially deserving.

  41. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
    I like tell alls because I’m a gossipy sob that should probably be working for the NSA, but I can at least understand why people dislike them. There is a definite expectation of privacy for pro players. Guys who break that get shunned.

    ————–

    I’d take a Cashman tell all in a heart beat.

    I feel like if you sit in the same dugout, there’s a code.

  42. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    you may disagree with how torre used his bullpen, many do, but how many WS did you take your team to?

  43. mick May 8th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Be that as it may, Torre is having his number retired for a reason and it would be ridiculous in my opinion to not do so because of a book.
    =========================
    How would they look if they didn’t retire it the year he went into the Hall.
    Keeping up with the Joneses, ya know…give a plaque to Zim as well, I’m sure he’ll be there that day by his side..

  44. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    It seems to me that they’re doing this just to bring more people to the park and not because the players were especially deserving.
    ________________________

    What a crazy idea, bringing people to the ballpark! Those yankees! How dare they…

  45. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    They’re probably just retiring it this year because of the HOF thing. #PR #PR #PR

  46. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    mick -

    I had to laugh, because I always thought Zim was the brains in Torre’s dugout.

  47. Jerkface May 8th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    ?@molly_knight 1m

    The Dodgers will average $334 million annually in TV revenue over the next 8 years. Cardinals current deal gives them $25MM a year. Unreal.

  48. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    “The difference is not the manager, it’s the players!”
    —————–

    Of course that’s true. What NBA team wins without good players? Why does Phil Jackson have so many rings?

    The Yankees were a team of superstars, huge egos and big and small personalities. All exacerbated by George Steinbrenner and the NY media. Torre had a unique gift and skill set that enabled him to manage all that. There is a reason his players respected him so much; there is a reason he won so often while many other managers would not have been able to do so in my opinion. He was a great manager.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Chip, frankly I don’t know what in hell they’re doing. When the Boss died, God rest his soul because he loved his team and he loved the fans, I said that we were going into heavily unchartered waters and there would never be another one like the Boss. Nobody said George was perfect, and yes he made his mistakes. But he put his blood, sweat, tears, and money into that organization.

    I won’t be surprised if the whole thing is a PR gambit, as luis has said. And if it is and the phony ends up playing fair with the Yankees, good for us. Because up until now, in his position in the MLB office, he’s jammed it to us as much as he possibly could. He’s dumb as a stump. He didn’t even bother knowing the rules regarding replacing players on a roster when a player was suspended for rules infractions! And he announced the penalty!

  50. mick May 8th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    H Farr

    You mean the Yanks are selling tix to these events.
    Shouldn’t they be giving them away?

  51. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    My wife gave it to me as a birthday present, thinking that I would love to have it…I read it, because I didn’t want to upset her and make her feel bad…But it’s just a piece of trash from a very disgruntled and vindictive person…Not the nice “old papa” image he tries to portray..Yet, the conversation started about this new “homage” the team is planning for certain players…Which I still think is all a PR gambit
    ____
    I wasn’t that interested in it in the first place. However, once I heard how trashy it was, I decided I didn’t need to read it. I avoid gossip and he says-she says types of books. Especially when it comes to my sports teams.

    And I agree at the PR aspect of these tributes. Sad. Although if they honor Bernie, I may go to that one. I did go last year to see Matsui sign his Yankee contract, so that he could retire a Yankee. #wellworthit!

  52. luis May 8th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    The difference is not the manager, it’s the players!

    =================

    QFT!!!!!!!!!

    The manager has very little impact on what happens on the field, except identifying when a pitcher is done and needs to be replaced..His BP managing was atrocious and that was his main responsibility..The other, to act as the “Moral Authority”, IOW, be the person that the players looked up for council and was widely respected..By writing the book the way he did, he forfeited that moral authority and his legacy..Therefore, he shouldn’t be honored by the team in any way…

  53. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    My real issue with athletes/musicians/actors writing books is that I actually like the medium and very few of them are really qualified to write one. I know most have ghostwriters and understand that they used tens if not hundreds of hours of interviews to construct the narrative, but it feels cheap.

  54. pat May 8th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Plaques for HOFers and numbers retired for 1st ballot HOFers who spent the majority of their careers as Yankees.

    Give it a few years and Steiner will be selling plaques in Monument Park.

  55. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Let’s hope that Zim can be there. He has had major health issues. Hopefully, he is healing well.

  56. luis May 8th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    I had to laugh, because I always thought Zim was the brains in Torre’s dugout.

    ==================

    He was

  57. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Torre got complacent, he left them out there with the Midges , who cares about what he said in a book.
    Just Win Baby!

  58. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    The Dodgers will average $334 million annually in TV revenue over the next 8 years. Cardinals current deal gives them $25MM a year. Unreal.

    ————-

    Outta control.

    The game is flush with money. LA fans can see their team again, can’t they? For a while they’ve not been able to get the network on a certain cable provider (like when George couldn’t get YES on Cablevision because he and the Dolans hate each other or something).

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    “you may disagree with how torre used his bullpen, many do, but how many WS did you take your team to?”

    And how many more might there have been if he didn’t vindictively move his star EIG, let Sheffield tell him who to play in the playoffs, and sip green tea while Joba’s face was eaten off my midges?

    Do you know the last year the Yankees won a WS under Torre? 2000. Do you know the last year that Jeff Nelson played for the Yankees? 2000. That’s sure putting the team first!

  60. pat May 8th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    jimbaumbach
    Yankees are averaging 4,012 more tickets sold per game vs this time last year. Mets are up 898 tickets sold per game. The Mariners are averaging 6,688 more tickets sold per game than last year. The Cano effect!

  61. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    SweetSpot -

    Torre had the talent to win with the other teams he managed, but failed as a manager. Just asked some of the pitchers, their career ruined by Torre as recently as his tour with the Dodgers, how they valued his managerial abilities.

    I love Tino and O’Neil, but, I agree they do not deserve a Momument Park honor.

  62. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Give it a few years and Steiner will be selling plaques in Monument Park.

    ———–

    Don’t give them any ideas.

  63. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    I had to laugh, because I always thought Zim was the brains in Torre’s dugout.
    =============
    Big Al

    It was that metal plate Zim carried around in his head. It must have made him more intelligent.

  64. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Do you know the last year the Yankees won a WS under Torre? 2000. Do you know the last year that Jeff Nelson played for the Yankees? 2000. That’s sure putting the team first!
    ——————–
    2003 Jeff Nelson says hi

  65. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Yankees are averaging 4,012 more tickets sold per game vs this time last year. Mets are up 898 tickets sold per game. The Mariners are averaging 6,688 more tickets sold per game than last year. The Cano effect!
    ====================
    pat- you mean more are coming to YS b/c Cano is gone?

  66. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    “The manager has very little impact on what happens on the field.”
    ___________

    Really? Except deciding who makes the team, who is in the rotation, who plays today, what the batting order is, who plays what position in the field, when does a player need rest, when do you shift, who pinch hits, who comes in as a defensive replacement, who steals and when, when you hit and run and on and on and on.

  67. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    so your position is that torre’s 5 trips to the WS in 13 years wasn’t enough?

    really?

  68. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    My stupid friends want to be stupidly social during Tanaka’s start tomorrow… I’ll have to find a sports bar.

  69. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    sorry, 6

  70. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    so your position is that torre’s 5 trips to the WS in 13 years wasn’t enough?

    ————

    trisha is just trying to earn her ‘spoiled Yankee fan’ patch… everyone come over to the dark side!

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    “2003 Jeff Nelson says hi”

    Oh. I forgot about the in-season, not even a whole season then goodbye trade. Sorry.
    2003. That was the year that Torre mismanaged the team out of another WS. Jeff Weaver says “I tried.”

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    “so your position is that torre’s 5 trips to the WS in 13 years wasn’t enough?

    really?”

    Hellllooooooo! My position is that the loser mismanaged the team out of at least 3 more they could have had. Or do you think he was there to amass a certain number and then sit and sip tea?

  73. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    Ticket sales are up because almost every game is a $6 game. Hopefully, they keep those prices up.

  74. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    so how does paul oniell get a plaque while willie randolph doesn’t have one?

  75. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    “trisha is just trying to earn her ‘spoiled Yankee fan’ patch… everyone come over to the dark side!”

    No, just trying to share my reality and integrity patch that was already well earned the minute I saw through that joker.

  76. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    pat, don’t get me going about Steiner. I never shared my email with them, but the Yanks must have, and they bombarded my mailbox day and night trying to sell me merchandise. Thankfully, they have finally stopped sending me stuff. Also after OYS was torn down, they tried to sell the seats from OYS at an exorbitant price, playing on fans’ sentiments, especially those fans who shelled out the extra dollars Steiner required to purchase their season ticket seats. Instead the fans were given random seats that Steiner tried to pass off as their actual seats. The whole Steiner thing is out of control. I am not much into autographs, but the few Yankee autographs I have I bidded for in the annual auction to help a domestic violence shelter in Trenton.

  77. RhapsodyInBlue May 8th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Eventually they’ll have to double deck monument park.

  78. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
    so how does paul oniell get a plaque while willie randolph doesn’t have one?
    ___
    Very good point.

  79. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    but much as I love O’Neill and Tino…no. It would be like putting Boggs or Brosius or Wells in there.
    =================
    Don’t forget Coney and The Rocket.
    Does Catfish have a plaque, honestly not sure.
    Really tho, Paullie and Tino were immensly popular and put in their years.
    Give them a plaque, I say…

  80. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    thats what i said, your position is that his 6 in 13 seasons wasn’t enough.

  81. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Trish how did the Core Four get it so wrong about Torre? Some say, he treated them well. Do you really think that Jeter and Mo especially would countenance seeing other players treated poorly? I don’t think so. Posada? No way.

  82. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    “trisha is just trying to earn her ‘spoiled Yankee fan’ patch… everyone come over to the dark side!”
    ___
    I thought is was her trying to “shut down conversation” patch. Just sayin’ j/k Trish. ;)

  83. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    “Hellllooooooo! My position is that the loser mismanaged the team out of at least 3 more they could have had. Or do you think he was there to amass a certain number and then sit and sip tea?”

    —–

    Rewatch the 1996 World Series, Joe Torre outmanaged Bobby Cox in that World Series.

  84. yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    What happened in the 2004 ALCS?

  85. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    How many players do you think have worn the pinstripes all told? 6-7,000? There are only 27 plaques in Monument Park. What is that about half of one percent? I hardly think that’s excessive.

  86. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Rewatch the 1996 World Series, Joe Torre outmanaged Bobby Cox in that World Series.
    ============
    he got complacent after winning 4.

  87. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    My position is that the loser mismanaged the team out of at least 3 more
    ——–
    You can call Joe Torre many many many things, honestly, you can, but to call him a Loser is kinda like calling Cano a sell-out.

  88. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    How many players do you think have worn the pinstripes all told? 6-7,000? There are only 27 plaques in Monument Park. What is that about half of one percent? I hardly think that’s excessive.
    ===============
    Yes. But the place is just too small. Must open another wing.

  89. pat May 8th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    pat- you mean more are coming to YS b/c Cano is gone?

    Maybe. Could also be the 6688 that are going to Ms games now would have gone to Yankees games if he stayed so the +4012 is actually a net loss. Or maybe Cano had nothing to do with it and Kelly Johnson has 4012 friends and relatives who come to see every home game now.

  90. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    “I thought is was her trying to “shut down conversation” patch. Just sayin’ j/k Trish. ;)

    :)

    Sokay. I’m always careful to let other people know I respect their opinions even if I don’t agree – because I do. Then it’s off to the races.

  91. Yankee Fan 1 May 8th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Some people are so self important it’s hilarious. “My reality and integrity patch” Hahaha.

    The reality is that Torre helped get the team 6 Pennants and 4 WS titles. Crying that he didn’t get more is the definition of spoiled yankee fan.

  92. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 3:15 pm
    What happened in the 2004 ALCS?
    ____________

    The Red Sox staged a miraculous comeback and beat us. They also swept the Cardinals. Mariano blew the lead in game 4 and so it went from there.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    “You can call Joe Torre many many many things, honestly, you can, but to call him a Loser is kinda like calling Cano a sell-out.”

    I’ll just let that one stand!

  94. luis May 8th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    SS,

    Whatever….Carry on..

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Yankee Fan 1 May 8th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    More an acknowledgement that you’re superficial and into the numbers and not the way that the players were treated and the team was run.

  96. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    2003. That was the year that Torre mismanaged the team out of another WS. Jeff Weaver says “I tried.”
    ======================
    We would have had a better shot if Wells and Giambi could have played Game 5.
    I know this b/c I was there.

  97. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    I do not believe Catfish Hunter has a plaque in Momument Park, but, he sure does deserve one.

    His number was the first retired by the A’s in their first 90 years.

  98. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    “Some people are so self important it’s hilarious. “My reality and integrity patch” Hahaha.”

    No, just self aware. Hahaha.

  99. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Maybe. Could also be the 6688 that are going to Ms games now would have gone to Yankees games if he stayed so the +4012 is actually a net loss. Or maybe Cano had nothing to do with it and Kelly Johnson has 4012 friends and relatives who come to see every home game now.
    =================================
    I doubt those M fans would have made the trip.

  100. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    I do not believe Catfish Hunter has a plaque in Momument Park, but, he sure does deserve one.
    =============
    Let’s petition for him if not.
    How about Cone and Key.
    Is The Rocket far away, not to mention Aceves.

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    “Whatever….Carry on..”

    Me too.

  102. blake May 8th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    “The Dodgers will average $334 million annually in TV revenue over the next 8 years. Cardinals current deal gives them $25MM a year. Unreal.”

    this is a big problem for MLB if they want an even playing field…..I expect the future CBA’s to attempt to bring this stuff into revenue sharing somehow……I’m not sure how they can do it but teams like the Braves get like zero TV money and the Dodgers get 334 million…

  103. Doreen May 8th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    I don’t have a problem with any of these guys being honored by the Yankees, and I don’t care if it’s only to get people to the park.

    I think it’s fun.

    And players shouldn’t have to be penalized because the franchise is a great one that has seen many greats pass through. In other words, yeah, it is a little funny that at some point there will be no single digits left to any new Yankee to wear, and regular numbers might be starting at 30, but so what?

    As for Joe’s book and Mariano’s book. I read Joe’s. Haven’t read anything beyond excerpts from Mariano’s yet. But I do think that, while I wish he hadn’t said anything at all, Mariano did not reveal anything about Robbie. Torre was downright nasty in the things he wrote; I was very shocked.

    Neither was necessary. But they’re not the same.

  104. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:19 pm
    “You can call Joe Torre many many many things, honestly, you can, but to call him a Loser is kinda like calling Cano a sell-out.”

    I’ll just let that one stand!
    ——-

    1173-767 .605 winning percentage, 6 Pennants and 4 World Series Titles = loser

  105. Chad Jennings May 8th, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    yankeefeminista May 8th, 2014 at 2:31 pm e

    Also Chad, any additional info on Heatchcott? I think he should be back at any moment. Also what about their mindset regarding Feliz now playing LF? Thanks!

    Heathcott is expected to come off the DL in the next week. He’ll go to Trenton.

    Didn’t ask about Feliz, but he’s played a little bit of the outfield in the past, and it seems like they’ve always referred to him as more of a utility type than a typical second baseman. They actually have some low-level middle infielders now, so I assume that’ll push Feliz into the outfield more often.

  106. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    When will the X-rated patches be given out?

  107. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    mick -

    Great sense of humor. :)

  108. Yankee Fan 1 May 8th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    I’m superficial and into the numbers because I’m not complaining about only winning 4 WS titles? Ok then.

    You obviously don’t like Torre. That is your opinion, fine. But you take it to ridiculous extremes calling him a loser and thinking he is out to get the yankees at every turn. He’s not. Nobody is perfect. Nobody. Everyone has flaws. But countless players have loved playing for Joe Torre, and I value their opinions.

  109. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    @molly_knight Correction: Dodgers will average $334 million in TV revenue annually over next TWENTY-FIVE years, not eight. Even crazier!

  110. blake May 8th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    I’ve said before…..I don’t know that Torre was a great manager……I think Girardi is a better field manager by a wide margin……but he was the perfect manager for the Yankees in the late 90′s through the early 2000s and he flat out got the job done.

  111. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    there will be no single digits left to any new Yankee to wear, and regular numbers might be starting at 30, but so what?
    ====================
    Doreen

    Willie Randolphs # 30 will be retired by the then so start with 31.

  112. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    Whatever. Sorry if you don’t care for others disagreeing with your opinions. Carry on.

  113. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    $8,350,000,000.00

    Wow.

  114. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    mick -

    Great sense of humor.
    ===============
    Thanks Al, I just love to make people smile.

  115. Shame Spencer May 8th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:26 pm
    When will the X-rated patches be given out?

    ————–

    See, I never start these conversations but I’m always yelled at for them!!

  116. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
    there will be no single digits left to any new Yankee to wear, and regular numbers might be starting at 30, but so what?
    ====================
    Doreen

    Willie Randolphs # 30 will be retired by the then so start with 31.
    ——

    Have they retired Dion James’s #19 and his #39 number yet?

  117. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Big Al-

    What I appreciate about you is your short memory.
    We have had some good fights but you do not hold a grudge…

  118. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Willie Randolphs # 30 will be retired by the then so start with 31.
    ——

    Have they retired Dion James’s #19 and his #39 number yet?
    ======================
    Howe Farr, can I call you Steve?

    I forgot Winnie was #31, that’s not retired , right.
    I think he does have plaque tho.
    If so, he should see a Dentist.

  119. luis May 8th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    I have said my peace about Torre..I think they are making the Monument Park a travesty for commercial gain…It should be hard to make it and if our team has been so great for so long, then it should be even harder to make it, since great seems to be the standard…Tino, Paul and Gossage should not be honored IMO..Make a plaque for the 96-00 team if you like…

  120. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    On a positive note; The past 3 games have been well pitched, the “O” seems to be getting on track, and playing well the next 3 games will give us a better idea of which direction this team may be headed.

    It’s a very long season, so hang in there, and enjoy the ride, which will no doubt have lots of ups and downs.

    GO YANKEES! :)

  121. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    See, I never start these conversations but I’m always yelled at for them!!
    ==================
    You’re (not your) young and should be yelled at.

  122. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    I have said my peace about Torre
    ===================
    piece

  123. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Tino, Paul and Gossage should not be honored IMO.
    ==============
    The majority of Yankee fans would disagree…

  124. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Murphy is looking good in his limited engagement.

    Solarte is heating up again.

    And Tanaka is Mothra.

    I’m happy.

    :)

  125. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    mick -

    How about several strong differences in opinion. :)

  126. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Mike -

    I like you being happy. :)

  127. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    And Tanaka is Mothra.
    ==============
    And who is Godzilla?
    Matsui…retire his # dammit.

  128. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    How about several strong differences in opinion.
    ================
    I prefer to call it a good fight.
    Got a problem with that?

  129. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Winfield doesn not have a plaque, and as long as the steinbrenners own the team, he never will, you can be sure. are you really comparing willie randolph to dion james?

    Randolph was the captain of the Yankees, played in 4 WS and 6 All Star games, and about 500 more games as a Yankee than Oniell. Personally while they are two of my favorite Yankees, I dont believe either one deserves a plaque, but imo Randolph deserves one more than Oniell.

  130. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    mick -

    Life is too short to dwell in negativity.

  131. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    How would you feel if you went to YS looking for a tribute to Paullie and Tino and they weren’t there to greet you.
    A case of the Sads, as Shame would say..

  132. GregD May 8th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    I love these stories/informtion on our minor league talent….I look forward to see Manny at Yankee stadium

  133. Doreen May 8th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Are they retiring those numbers, or just giving them plaques? My impression is that they are just getting plaques.

  134. blake May 8th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Tanaka is that bad ass robot from Pacific Rim

  135. bbb51 May 8th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue May 8th, 2014 at 3:11 pm
    Eventually they’ll have to double deck monument park.

    Then there will be endless debate about who’s a top and who’s a bottom…

  136. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    O’Neill was an intangibles guy.
    He symbolized the type of player those teams stood for and when he retired they were never the same.

  137. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    mick -

    OK – You win that fight, I give up.

  138. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Just plaques except for Torre.

  139. Doreen May 8th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    bbb51 -
    “Then there will be endless debate about who’s a top and who’s a bottom…”

    For anyone who watches Mad Men, “There is always a hierarchy.”

    :)

  140. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    they are retiring torre’s # and giving all 4 of them plaques. I believe.

  141. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    mick -

    Life is too short to dwell in negativity.
    ==========================
    Nah.
    Who here does that Al?

  142. Howe Farr May 8th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:41 pm
    Winfield doesn not have a plaque, and as long as the steinbrenners own the team, he never will, you can be sure. are you really comparing willie randolph to dion james?
    —-

    I wasnt, big willie fan and somewhat a lessor dion james fan.

  143. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Al-

    I’m happy because I have things to look forward to w the Team.

    Not so happy in other phases.

    But who ever said Life was going to be easy.

    I merely do what my heart tells me to do.

    ;)

  144. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    mick -

    As the Boss stated over and over again, O’Neil was a “Warrior”.

  145. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    and while I’ve been hearing on the radio all day that all the single digit #’s are now retired, I am unaware of the number 0 being retired for anyone. (Oscar Gamble, maybee?)

  146. Doreen May 8th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Thank you SweetSpot.

  147. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    that is assuming #2 is a lock to be retired, of course.

  148. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Mike -

    All this time I thought you did what Mrs. MTU told you to do.

  149. pkyankfan69 May 8th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    In case anyone was wondering… Arod shaves his arms and legs, it has been confirmed.

    “I didn’t want him to cut himself,” Lopez told Berg in Spanish. “‘Don’t worry about it,’ I said. ‘I’ll do it for you.’ He shaves his arms and legs.”

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....-and-legs/

  150. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    As the Boss stated over and over again, O’Neil was a “Warrior”.
    =========================
    Maybe the Boss gave 1 more order then, Al.

  151. Yankee Fan 1 May 8th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    The fact that people are upset that the Yankees are honoring too many people is the definition of #firstworldproblems :)

  152. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Al-

    Any self-respecting Man knows his place.

    ;)

  153. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “Eventually they’ll have to double deck monument park.”
    =============================
    well, since it’s already in the restaurant basement, i guess the 2nd row would be in the sub-basement!

  154. SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    A-Rod? Who’s that?

  155. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Blake-

    Tanaka is a Terminator.

  156. bbb51 May 8th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
    A-Rod? Who’s that?

    Next year’s third baseman.

  157. pkyankfan69 May 8th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    SweetSpot May 8th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
    A-Rod? Who’s that?
    ——————————

    http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/wp-c.....entaur.jpg

  158. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 8th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    “See, I never start these conversations but I’m always yelled at for them!!”

    :lol:

    “In case anyone was wondering… Arod shaves his arms and legs, it has been confirmed.”

    I always knew he was the female in the relationship.

  159. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    YS Guy -

    Zero is not a number, or I don’t believe it is, and no one ever wore zero, have they?

    Retiring #2 is not even in question, it’s just about when they announce it.

  160. Section 8 May 8th, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    Honor all of them. It’s fun for fans, good promotion that might bring a few extra fans in. And give as many plaques out as they have wall space.

    But retire numbers only for lifelong Yankees who are at least in the discussion for HoF. Love Paulie very much, but 21 needs to go back in circulation. I wouldn’t have retired 44, and not sure about 1. On the fence about 20 and 46 (yes I am willing to ignore 3 years in Houston).

  161. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Brian Wilson of the Dodgers wears 00.

    Definitely marches to his own drummer.

    ;)

  162. Yankee Fan 1 May 8th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    I wonder if they’ll retire #2 at the end of the year like they did for Mo, or wait and do it later on in order to captilize? It can go either way really.

  163. ScottinSJ May 8th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Personally, I loved the big “O” — Oscar Gamble. No one took better advantage of the short porch. Think how cool his afro would look on a plaque. Not to mention he was a really good person.

  164. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Arod’s mistake is that he wasn’t more like Manny.

  165. tomingeorgia May 8th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Anyone see Torre as a player? He was borderline Hall for his playing years alone. Throw in a bunch of WS wins as a manager. What more do you want for the guy to have accomplished?

    (His brother was pretty good, too.)

  166. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    So what does everyone think of Nuno after his last outing ?

    Is he a keeper ?

    What is his ceiling ?

  167. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    I wonder if they’ll retire #2 at the end of the year like they did for Mo, or wait and do it later on in order to captilize? It can go either way really.
    ================================
    They’ll do like Mo but will unveil a Statue another day.

  168. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    “In case anyone was wondering… Arod shaves his arms and legs, it has been confirmed.”
    ********************************************
    Swimmers do it, and no one calls them the female in the relationship, and saying that could be viewed as a negative statement towards ladies, lol.

  169. mick May 8th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Think how cool his afro would look on a plaque.
    =====================
    Not to mention on a bobblehead.

  170. pkyankfan69 May 8th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Alan Mills is the only Yankee to ever wear 69…. Yanks need to get a good #69 on the roster pronto.

  171. Ys Guy May 8th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    I was around before there was a Monument Park.

    It was a nice little thing they did when the park was rebuilt, since they have moved in the LF fence from where it was, the monuments, which used to sit in the deep OF were now put outside the fence, off the field and people were allowed to go check them out. It was a nice little thing that came about just by circumstance.

    When they built the new stadium, they didnt leave a worthy place for a “monument park”, so they should have come up with a different concept. Or they should have left a proper place of respect to do it in.

    “Monument Park” as it exsists today is a horrible joke. And to make it worse, they put up a Ginormous plaque, way bigger than anything else there, to Steinbrenner. You can like or hate him, but how can you justify a plaque bigger than the other monuments and plaques together?

    it is as YF said, an abomination.

  172. Giuseppe Franco May 8th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    tomingeorgia May 8th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Anyone see Torre as a player? He was borderline Hall for his playing years alone. Throw in a bunch of WS wins as a manager. What more do you want for the guy to have accomplished?

    —-

    Yeah, but what he did during his playing career has nothing to do with the Yankees.

    He’s being honored in Monument Park for his Yankee career.

  173. ScottinSJ May 8th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    MTU — Nuno definitely earned another start, but I think they will keep him on a short leash. he needs to be pinpoint to be successful. I like having Aceves out there in case Phelps or Nuno turns back into pumpkins.

  174. Chip May 8th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    If the organization was interested in doing right by the fans then instead of Mariano getting his plaque last year – there would have been a day next year where Jeter, Mo, Bernie, Posada and Andy all went into Monument Park together. But the Yankees understand that each of those players having his own “day” means a full house and so they’re going to spread them out.

    What they are doing with Tino especially cheapens what Monument Park is all about.

  175. MTU May 8th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    New one ———>

  176. pat May 8th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    “An e-mail to representatives for Rodriguez for confirmation was not returned.”

    They seriously contacted a rep to confirm hair removal?

  177. BIG AL May 8th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    “As far as I’m concerned Mariano threw the 2nd baseman for the Mariners under the bus.”
    ********************************************

    Please explain exactly how Mo threw Cano under the bus!

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