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Sabathia: “I didn’t want to say anything”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 11, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC SabathiaThe Yankees have now placed 60 percent of their opening rotation on the disabled list. Ivan Nova is lost for the year, Michael Pineda won’t be back until sometime in June and now CC Sabathia is shutdown for at least two weeks with a knee problem that’s lingered for two starts. The Yankees rotation was a source of encouragement and optimism out of spring training. Six weeks into the season, it’s become an uncertainty.

“That’s why I didn’t want to say anything,” Sabathia said. “But I think I was doing more damage to the team than helping the team by trying to hide it.”

Sabathia said he first felt the discomfort during last Sunday’s start against Tampa Bay. It was his worst start of the year, and his knee was swollen afterward, but he stayed on turn to make another underwhelming start on Saturday. When his knee grew swollen again, he finally spoke up, and a Sunday morning MRI revealed the problem.

It’s the same knee that Sabathia had surgically repaired after the 2010 season. Although Sabathia said this injury is showing the same symptoms, the initial MRI suggests this it’s less significant, with no damage to the meniscus. Sabathia plans to have the knee drained on Monday, then expects to get another MRI just to make sure there’s no further damage.

“I didn’t know what was making it swell up,” Sabathia said. “Obviously, you know, it got pretty big on me after the start Sunday and after the start last night. So of course, I was getting a little nervous.”

Sabathia said he’s hoping this is only a two-week DL stint, but the injury has obviously lingered for about a week now. Has that contributed to Sabathia’s struggles?

“I’m not going to make excuses or anything, but I felt it yesterday,” he said. “And I just wanted to say something and let Stevie (Donohue) know.”

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183 Responses to “Sabathia: “I didn’t want to say anything””

  1. SweetSpot May 11th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    That is just inexcusable Sabathia, you were unbelievably irresponsible hiding an injury from your manager after the Tampa game. How much damage was done or could have been done by making that next start? I believe players that do that should be fined heavily.

  2. bruceb May 11th, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    What a mess the Yanks’ roster is right now. Full of highly paid decrepit players.

  3. bigdan22 May 11th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Re-post:

    I said a long time ago that Solarte should play everyday. He’s only among the top two hitters on this team. And if they listen to me again, there is a way out of this morass.

    –Get Warren in starting rotation RIGHT NOW! He’s way too valuable an arm to be burned out in the bullpen and they are burning him out now. He’ll be the second best starter on this team and that includes when all others return as well.

    –Trade Gardner. Nice player. But his real value is in CF. The Yanks need a middle of the order bat and that happens to be Almonte. Two more hits today including walk off in the 11th. His 24th RBI. Don’t you think that would come in handy about right now? The guy crushes right-handers and in time probably would be ok against lefties too.

    –Acquire a real relief pitcher. Somewhere. The minors, independent league, wherever. After the closer and 8th inning guy, you just need an arm that works. And while your at it, find a real LOOGY.

    You know it’s not really all that early. At some point, and I’d say mid-June is the deadline, Girardi and Cash have a pick out and play their best lineup. Which means no sub-300 OBP guys in the middle. And I’m talking to you McCann, Sori and Beltran.

    I personally don’t care if McCann rots on the bench. Maybe he’ll be a better BUC than a starter. He should never play against lefties now anyway.

  4. Against All Odds May 11th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    I believe players that do that should be fined heavily.

    ———————

    Let’s not get crazy

  5. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    I understand a young player who might fear demotion upon revealing an injury, I don’t understand it for a player like CC. In fact, I am not sure I believe it since I believe a player like CC with a swollen knee would seek treatment from the trainer immediately, like he supposedly did this time. Might be just covering for his coach and manager, or looking for an excuse for his poor performances the past 2 starts. .

  6. Against All Odds May 11th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    I don’t understand it for a player like CC.

    ————–

    Making big money coming off a bad yr where all he heard was he has to show everyone that he can still pitch at a high level. He’s never been one to make excuses so he foolishly tried to gut through it.

  7. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    McCann is just not the same player without the beard. Soriano is not very good when he is not on a hot streak, which is true for many players but Soriano brings it to a new level. Beltran just looks hurt. Jeter is just old. Tex has been good, a surprise to many including myself, and is the only bright spot in the middle of the batting order.

    Solarte, not sure where they would be without him. His leading the team in RBI’s says it all.

  8. ac1 May 11th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Beltran hasn’t been e same since tumbling over the wall in Tampa.
    He could very well be hurt.
    Also, tex has his power back, but indicated he is getting tired too.
    should get a day off tomorrow.

  9. SweetSpot May 11th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Against All Odds May 11th, 2014 at 7:22 pm
    I believe players that do that should be fined heavily.
    ———————
    Let’s not get crazy
    —————–
    I wonder how crazy it is. Consider this.

    1. Doesn’t a player potentially hurt his team by not revealing an injury?

    2. If you fined a ballplayer a hefty sum for doing so, it would likely never happen again.

  10. bigdan22 May 11th, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Quite a game for Trenton today. Maybe there are a few players out there who know how to hit. Two more dingers for O’Brien. He has four hits in his first 15 ABs in AA, three homers and a double. Have to wonder if he’ll do to the Eastern League what he was doing to the Florida State League. Who’s this guy Taylor Dugas? He’s old (24) but killing it. .937 OPS in 85 ABs. Curious about Gamel too. He’s young (22), OF with not much power but may be developing. Hit a dinger today, now batting .295. I remember he hit well in the AA playoffs last year.

    Refs up to .281 now after a slow start. Three hits today including double and triple. Still feel he and Sanchez are the Yanks two most important prospects right now but O’Brien is forcing himself into a much bigger picture.

  11. Against All Odds May 11th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    SweetSpot May 11th, 2014 at 7:36 pm
    Against All Odds May 11th, 2014 at 7:22 pm
    I believe players that do that should be fined heavily.
    ———————
    Let’s not get crazy
    —————–
    I wonder how crazy it is. Consider this.

    1. Doesn’t a player potentially hurt his team by not revealing an injury?

    2. If you fined a ballplayer a hefty sum for doing so, it would likely never happen again.

    ———-

    I see what you’re saying but they aren’t going to fine players for not disclosing injuries.

  12. bigdan22 May 11th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Day in day out, game in game out, Solarte has the best ABs on the team. Sees a lot of pitches. Doesn’t strike out. Gets the man home from third base. Hits the ball hard with occasional power.

    Let’s vote him on the All Star team.

  13. I Am Winning May 11th, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Am I the only one that doubts CC will be back in two weeks? Two weeks into June, now that I believe.

    CC being out of the rotation might be a blessing, to gice a younger guy a chance at doing better. Pineda and Nova hurt and is still hurting. CC, unfortunately, not so much.

  14. SweetSpot May 11th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    “I see what you’re saying but they aren’t going to fine players for not disclosing injuries.”
    ——-

    I agree, they won’t. MLBPA would go nuclear.

  15. I Am Winning May 11th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Fining players for not disclosing an injury won’t help. If you fine CC $5million he just won’t disclose it, and when his knee finally blows up he would simply lie and say it was on that particular pitch. It just won’t work.

  16. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    *sigh*

  17. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Solartes H-A splits are rather interesting

    Coming into today

    Home 250/373/313/.685 – 3 RBI
    Away .345/.391/ 569/.960 -15 RBI

    Also, his L-R splits

    Batting L -315/.439/.519/.958
    Batting R- 288/.316/.385/.700

  18. yankinvegas May 11th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    This division is very winnable. We just have hold our own now. It’s amazing what has happened to or rotation.
    Hopefully Pineda will be back by mid June and CC the same. And CC will come back much better than he has been.
    I am so encouraged by Tex and surprised by Solarte. Once McCann and Beltran get going plus Sori hits one of his famous hot streaks we will be fine.
    Let’s take 3 of 4 from the Mets, sweep Pittsburgh and win 4 of 6 in Chicago. Get to 29 and 20 and go from there!

  19. ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Frankly, who cares how long Sabathia is out? He sucks, plain and simple. Throw Beltran and McCann in with him. Only thing worse than CC right now is Cashman. What a disaster he has assemled.

  20. ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Vegas — yeah, we’ll just start rolling, because everything points in that direction. Better hope the Mets don’t take two of three, which is more likely.

  21. ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Sorry, I meant 3 of 4 in the Mets series.

  22. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Just read that Scott Baker cleared waivers. How is it the Yankees did not claim him?

  23. Shame Spencer May 11th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    So who replaces CC in the rotation? Do they go to Ace? Greene? Convert another pen arm?

  24. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    yankinvegas May 11th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
    Let’s take 3 of 4 from the Mets, sweep Pittsburgh and win 4 of 6 in Chicago. Get to 29 and 20 and go from there!
    ==================

    just checked and noted the Yankees went 30-19 last year, 1 better than your rosy projection for this year. Lets hope they go to a better place than the 2013 team did.

  25. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Shame Spencer May 11th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    So who replaces CC in the rotation? Do they go to Ace?
    =====================

    All indications are Ace, hence his unavailability today

  26. mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    CC can use the time off.
    Ace will give more innings than CC did.
    Let Nuno, Phelps and Ace compete for the 5th starter job.

  27. ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Sabathia and Pineda are out much longer than anticipated . . . which is a shame in the case of Pineda.

  28. I Am Winning May 11th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Beltran is doing far better than Mccan and CC combined, you can’t throw him in the same category as those two this season.

  29. I Am Winning May 11th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    CC just hasn’t been the same pitcher since he had those bone chips removed from his elbow in the winter two years ago. He has the stuff to do well, but he hasn’t been able to adjust like Pettitte, Mussina, and the likes of those pitchers.

  30. mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Beltran should be the f/t DH right now before he gets killed out there.
    Sori and Ichi should platoon.
    End of story.

  31. Pat M. May 11th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Aceves, come on down !!! Rangers just got jobbed on the goal interference call….NHL needs to revisit that rule and really should open up the ice to International size. Players are too big now and the ice gets way too crowded

  32. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Sabathia and Pineda are out much longer than anticipated . . . which is a shame in the case of Pineda.
    ================

    In Pinedas case, he was only good for 20-25 starts anyways, so the injury could be a blessing, since it means he will pitch down the stretch in September.

    As for CC, I can’t help but wonder if the knee is a smoke screen for an arm issue. In any case, maybe the rest does him good, I won’t miss him for a few starts especially against the Mets, Cubs and Cardinals

  33. ScottinSJ May 11th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Beltran? Are we talking about the same Carlos “No Hit” Beltran? Yeah, he’s been great. We need more like him, both offensively and defensively.

  34. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Beltran should be the f/t DH right now before he gets killed out there.
    ====================

    Since the Rays series when he ran over the wall he is hitting 183 with a 525 OPS. I would rather have Brendan Ryan DH

  35. mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    The pen is going to take a hit with all of the starters down.
    Can’t have enough starters in the pen, but now they are out and we’ll see how the real relievers do.

  36. mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    So far there is no chemistry in this lineup.
    The most reliable has been Solarte as he always makes contact and will drive in a runner on 3rd.
    There is no set lineup and, of course, Girardi won’t take the logical Ellsbury-Gardner 1-2 at the top.
    Jeter up 2nd makes no sense anymore, even Ichiro makes more sense.

  37. GordoMillones May 11th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Im Voting for solarte to be part of the all star game :)

  38. yankinvegas May 11th, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    I always try to stay optimistic. It is May 11 and there is a ton of baseball left. CC is going to be in the rotation the same as Jeter will play SS. I just hope for the best.
    I like Nuno but I think Phelps and Aceves are bullpen guys.
    Hopefully we can hang in for the first half and then go forward with a rotation of Kuroda, Tanaka, CC, Pineda and Banuelos.

  39. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    mick May 11th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    The pen is going to take a hit with all of the starters down.
    Can’t have enough starters in the pen, but now they are out and we’ll see how the real relievers do.
    ===================

    Phelps was the only real loss from the pen. Aceves and Nuno had not contributed much this year. The farm should be able to produce a couple of BP arms, thats one of their strength actually.

    Orioles looking for catching with Weiters hurt and supposedly have made available Troy Patton. Too bad Cervelli is hurt, although the Orioles might not want to deal with a competitor and vice versa.

  40. pete22 May 11th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Don’t see Solarte should beat out Donaldson or Longoria, but there certainly are enough NY fans to get him in, and his numbers are competitive

  41. NYY fan in NH May 11th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    CC has been trending downward going on 2 years now and the visits to the DL are piling up. I wish there was some chance they could trade for Jeff Samardzija

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