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Injured Yankees: The list that just keeps growing

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 13, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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One injury after another, including a flurry of them in just the past two days, but Joe Girardi said last night that he hasn’t really thought about this being a repeat of last year.

“I can’t say that I have,” Girardi said. “Someone brought it up to me; it seems like this year it’s our pitchers instead of our position players, (but) they seemed to catch up pretty quick in one day. I haven’t, but now that you mention it, it’s similar to where we’re losing pitchers for substantial periods of time, where (last year) we lost a lot of position players for substantial periods. The position players have been more day-to-day, in a sense.”

The biggest blow so far has obviously been the Ivan Nova injury. Then there was Michael Pineda’s back/shoulder. Now there’s CC Sabathia’s knee, Ichiro Suzuki’s back, and whatever’s going on with Carlos Beltran’s hyper-extended elbow. As the injuries pile up, it becomes easy to forget that the Yankees have already placed Dave Robertson and Mark Teixeira on the disabled list at some point this year, and that they’ve already lost the guy who opened the season as their backup catcher.

“That’s what happens to guys that are older,” Mark Teixeira said, in a moment of perhaps uncomfortable honesty. “You get bumps and bruises. That’s the unfortunate part about getting old. But we have a very deep team. We have a bunch of guys that are champing at the bit to get at-bats. We have All-Stars sitting on the bench. So we’ll fill in where we need to fill in, and guys that are bumped and bruised, we’ll give them a day here and there and we’ll get back at it.”

This seems to be a constantly evolving situation, but here’s the basic infirmary report.

BeltranCarlos Beltran
Hyper-extended right elbow
Hurt taking swings in the cage last night. He was sent for an MRI and the Yankees did not immediately have — or at least they did not immediately announce — the results. All we have to go on is Girardi saying that Beltran, “seemed pretty upset” after hurting himself. Beltran was the Yankees best hitter early in the year, but he hasn’t been the same more recently. Several days ago, Girardi was asked if he thought there was any lingering impact from Beltran’s tumble over the wall at Tropicana Field. Girardi basically said it was possible, but ultimately dismissed it. Seems like the current situation would be unrelated, but who knows? “I’m concerned because it was enough to take himself out of the game,” Girardi said. “I didn’t have a long conversation with him about how sore he was.”

BillingsBruce Billings
Strained right forearm
For reasons that I imagine are fairly obvious, there’s been no update on Billings’ status and I can’t imagine anyone has done much digging to find the latest on when he might come off the disabled list. Billings was one of many guys brought up to fill in as the Yankees long reliever. He got into one game and landed on the disabled list. For now, the more interesting question with Billings isn’t about when he can come back, it’s about what the Yankees can do with him in the meantime. I’m not entirely sure what moves the Yankees are allowed to make with a player who’s hurt. I believe an injured player can be DFA to open a 40-man spot, but a release might be an option. This matters largely because it seems the Yankees are going to have to add either a fifth starter or a new long reliever by the end of the week and Chase Whitley — who’s not on the 40-man — seems to be the most likely candidate.

CervelliFrancisco Cervelli
Strained right hamstring
It was exactly a month ago, on April 13, that Cervelli played his last game. He’s been on the disabled list with a Grade 2 hamstring strain, and the fact the Yankees put him on the 60-day disabled list is a pretty clear indication that he’s still nowhere close to a return. Even if he were 100 percent healthy at this point, Cervelli couldn’t be activated for roughly another month. I believe I was talking to Michael Pineda when Cervelli spoke to the media yesterday, so we’ll trust Bryan Hoch on this one: Cervelli said he has been running on a treadmill and is scheduled to run outdoors on Tuesday. He said he could resume hitting this weekend. It’s obviously going to be a bit longer before Cervelli’s eligible to rejoin the Yankees, but given the way John Ryan Murphy has played in his place — .407/.429/.556 — it’s worth wondering whether Cervelli’s job will be waiting for him.

KelleyShawn Kelley
Tight lower back
While the Yankees were in Anaheim last week, Kelley began feeling some tightness in his back. He was unavailable for a few days, then told the Yankees he could pitch again on Sunday. He began warming up in the bullpen and apparently had some trouble getting the back loose enough to really pitch. He was never called into Sunday’s game, expected to be available on Monday and told the Yankees that he yet again couldn’t quite get there. “He came in after BP and he’s still not right,” Girardi said. “I thought that we would have him (yesterday). He just does not have the flexibility to finish his pitches, so I didn’t have him.” Kelley hasn’t pitched since May 6, so he’s already almost halfway through a potential 15-day disabled list stint. The Yankees have not indicated that they’re planning to make that particular move, but it’s already taking longer than expected. “He’s got to get to where he can do what he needs to do to pitch,” Girardi said.

Ivan Nova
Tommy John surgery
Out for the season

PinedaMichael Pineda
Strained teres major
Here’s how Pineda described first feeling the injury during a minor league start during his pine tar suspension: “On the first pitch, I felt a tightness,” he said. “It was like, ‘Oh, it’s tight.’ It’s not normal because I’ve never felt it. I threw another pitch and I feel more. It’s not OK. It’s a little tight. I’m stretching a little bit. After another pitch I say, ‘Oh no. I don’t feel good. There’s something wrong.’ I finished the inning, and when I walked into the dugout I said, I don’t feel normal. I feel something, and I’ve never felt it before.’” The teres major muscle is in the back very close the shoulder. Pineda said the discomfort itself is not in the shoulder, but kind of closer to his arm pit. He played catch this weekend and should play catch again today. A rehab schedule is not known yet. “I don’t feel nothing here (in the shoulder),” Pineda said. “I’m doing a lot of (shoulder) exercises and everything is normal, everything is good. I feel it here (under the arm pit).”

SabathiaCC Sabathia
Fluid in right knee
As planned, Dr. Chris Ahmad examined Sabathia yesterday, but Girardi said postgame that there was no new information and no new tests. Sabathia is going to see Dr. James Andrews, but that seems to be for his own peace of mind, at least that’s the way Brian Cashman explained it on the Michael Kay Show yesterday. “His knee needs to be drained,” Cashman said. “Fluid’s obviously building up there for some reason, and we’ll be a in a better situation to answer fully what we think might be going on and why the fluid is being produced there when Chris Ahmad gets a chance to rule on it.” The Sunday MRI in Milwaukee showed no meniscus tear — Sabathia had a meniscus issue in that knee after the 2010 season — and right now the Yankees are operating under the assumption that it’s strictly fluid. But: “We’re still in the evaluation stage,” Cashman said.

SuzukiIchiro Suzuki
Sore back
On Sunday afternoon in Milwaukee, Ichiro tried to make a sliding catch on a ball hit into shallow right field. He thought he could make the catch and double off a runner at first base, but when Ichiro slid, his knee stuck in the ground and he tumbled. It was sudden and a little bit violent, and when Ichiro tried to get ready to play yesterday, he couldn’t do it. “For Ich not to hit on the field, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen that,” Girardi said. “… He felt like he couldn’t swing or do anything, so we had to give him the day off completely.” Ichiro said he’ll see how he’s feeling today, but right now it sounds like he doesn’t think this is a DL situation. It’s a back issue, though, and Girardi loves to say that “backs are tricky.”

TeixeiraMark Teixeira
Fatigue and groin tightness
This is a weird one. Since returning from that early season hamstring injury — which gave him some time off — Teixeira’s never played more than seven days in a row. When he did, it was immediately after playing just one out of three days. He played for a week straight, had Thursday off, played three days in Milwaukee and said his legs were fatigued. Then he acknowledged some tightness in his groin. For now, Teixeira has said being out of last night’s starting lineup was strictly precautionary and he’ll definitely be there tonight, but his workload doesn’t seem especially overwhelming, and it seems a bit odd that he’s felt this fatigued. He also kind of dismissed the groin tightness, but it’s significant enough that Girardi brought it up. DL seems unlikely, but it’s clearly a keep-an-eye-on-it situation. “If (Girardi) still feels like the storm clouds are starting to surround Tex in some way that could take him out for an extended period of time, we’ll give him a little time,” Cashman said. “Right now I’ll classify this as precautionary or reactionary. Nothing more, nothing less.”

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209 Responses to “Injured Yankees: The list that just keeps growing”

  1. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    The team has at least three players on the 25 who can’t play, Beltran, Kelly and Ichiro. Teixiera is iffy. We can’t play with 21-22 players.

    DL Kelly and Beltran, send Clairborne down and bring up Whitley, Flores and Almonte. Flores can be the BU1B and play outfield.

    Things could get very ugly, very quickly. Either start winning or be under .500.

  2. 86w183 May 13th, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Oh, the old gray mare, she aint-a what she used to be, aint-a what she used to be…….

    Of course it’s not just old guy injuries… but the old ones certainly stand out.

    Whitley to the MLB roster and Kelly to the DL. Go ahead and DL Beltran and call up Almonte. If Ichiro needs a DL stint maybe Garcia or Flores gets a stint?

  3. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Jason Bay would disagree”

    Yea because that’s so relevant to Brian McCann? :|

  4. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Ironically the glass man Brian Roberts isn’t hurt ? Can’t figure baseball Suzy

  5. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    I’m with you. Bring up the Baby Bombers.

    The Yankees show sporadic glimmers of hope, then go back to “frittering” away games.

    The Bullpen is an exposed mess. “Who do you call?” Certainly not Ghostbusters.

  6. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    I think it’s odd and a bit concerning that Tex would feel so fatigued that he needs a day off this early in the season…..especially when he’s been hurt for like half of it……I mean he plays 1B….just odd…..might want to get checked out

  7. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Jason Bay would disagree”
    Yea because that’s so relevant to Brian McCann?

    ————————–

    It is because I’m sure you would have been saying the same thing if we had signed Bay

  8. longtimefan May 13th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    “That’s what happens to guys that are older,” Mark Teixeira said, pretty much says it all, one of the perils of putting together a team of older veterans. A little swipe by Granderson in the pre-game interview, ” I was one of the younger players on the yankees and one of the older guys on the Mets”–time to give some of the younger guys a shot, just might work out like Solarte.

  9. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Blake

    I don’t think it’s odd at all that Tex took a day off for tired legs. He has no hesitation now to speak up whenever he feels he’s not 100%. Not that it’s a bad thing. :(

  10. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    “It is because I’m sure you would have been saying the same thing if we had signed Bay”

    After 6 weeks? Sure…..Tex hit .200 in April of 2009 after he signed and then went on to have a .948 ops that season.

    You can’t judge a 5 year contract after the first 6 weeks

  11. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    I have an idea! Let’s develop a good farm system. Put Cashman in charge and no one will be able to compete with us. Watch out!

    Hal believes he has spent enough money. I do not foresee any real in season additions nor do I see any pricy ones in the off season. Just like after the spending in 2008, Hal will go into hibernation with his money.

    And the lights will be out again in October.

  12. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    I remember Tino struggling for awhile when he first came over and replaced Donnie and fans for on him hard……now he’s has a plaque in monument park. Just sayin ……it’s way too early to draw any conclusions on McCann

  13. bruceb May 13th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Don’t know about Tex being fatigued…more like ready to be put out to grass. He runs slower than an old carthorse. If he had made it to second base last night, which even my 90-year-old grandma could have managed, it would have changed the whole dynamic of that inning. Certainly, there would have been no double play. Possibly, Duda would have been in a different position and McCann’s line drive could have brought home the tying run.

    Yanks have had abominable luck with injuries over the last two years, but Cashman and the front office also have to take some of the blame for the construction of the roster. Too many injury risks. Not enough young athletic players.

  14. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    I don’t think it’s odd at all that Tex took a day off for tired legs. He has no hesitation now to speak up whenever he feels he’s not 100%. Not that it’s a bad thing. ”

    Eh….lets hope that’s all it is

  15. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    After 6 weeks? Sure…..Tex hit .200 in April of 2009 after he signed and then went on to have a .948 ops that season.

    ——————————————

    The difference is Tex was elite when we acquired him. McCann was not

  16. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    “I have an idea! Let’s develop a good farm system. Put Cashman in charge and no one will be able to compete with us. Watch out!”

    Giving away your best draft pick in years and then the next 2 after that isn’t the best way to go about that……if you chose the path to spend money then you need to go all the way IMO……

  17. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Shin-Soo Choo batting .395 vs lefties with 1.044 OPS. Is the Rangers hitting coach the one to thank for his uncharacteristic success vs lefties?

  18. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    ——————————————

    “The difference is Tex was elite when we acquired him. McCann was not”

    Doesn’t really change the point

  19. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Yankee Trader says:
    May 13, 2014 at 9:52 am
    Shin-Soo Choo batting .395 vs lefties with 1.044 OPS. Is the Rangers hitting coach the one to thank for his uncharacteristic success vs lefties?

    Lets see if it sticks…..Grandy hit lefties well for a period too before reverting back to sucking vs them

  20. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Blake,

    I was remembering Cashman saying that about 7-8 years ago. It has not gone too well although we have supplied a couple of good players to other teams with nothing left to show for it.

  21. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Tex also hit 330 with 13 home runs in May. May is almost half way over and McCann is hitting 189 with 1 home run

  22. 86w183 May 13th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Tex is at the point that he’ll need a day off each week… especially when he’s getting on base a lot, which is okay. Girardi has a challenge to mix and match some old legs… and I suspect that will NEVER change.

    They should be quicker to DL older guys — Beltran and Ichiro right now — and bring Almonte and Garcia/Flores up. If they perform well you enhance their value if nothing else.

  23. blake May 13th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle says:
    May 13, 2014 at 9:57 am
    Tex also hit 330 with 13 home runs in May. May is almost half way over and McCann is hitting 189 with 1 home run

    You’re missing the point entirely

  24. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    Blake

    Grandy looked pretty good vs our lefty, Matt Thornton. Of course, when you know it’s going to be a fastball down the middle or slightly outside………… Where’s Rapada?

  25. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Grandy popped out vs. THornton. His homer was off Kuroda

  26. blake May 13th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I was remembering Cashman saying that about 7-8 years ago. It has not gone too well although we have supplied a couple of good players to other teams with nothing left to show for it.”

    The yanks like to go halfway on things…..they want a good farm system but they don’t make the draft and keeping their picks a priority……they like to spend money but then stop short of filling all their holes and whine about the payroll…….you cant be halfway on this stuff and expect great results. Boston hoards draft picks……they spend money but they clearly prioritize the draft and player development more than the Yanks do.

  27. bruceb May 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    McCann, Beltran and now Ellsbury are costing us wins right now, which is ironic considering how much we spent on them to “replace” Cano.

    Mets’ relievers are no better than the B relievers we were throwing out there last night…difference was we didn’t make them pay.

    Can you imagine the lineup of five years’ ago letting Farnsworth off the hook like that? Guy couldn’t throw a strike.

    The clown Valverde will probably shut us down tonight, especially if Johnson and Roberts are in the lineup.

  28. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    They should be quicker to DL older guys — Beltran and Ichiro right now — and bring Almonte and Garcia/Flores up. If they perform well you enhance their value if nothing else.
    ————–
    If the Yankees still are a mess come the end of July, with little hope of having an extended playoff run, if they are mathematically in it, and Flores and Almonte are playing with them and doing well, then field offers for Gardner and Beltran, as well as Soriano and Ichiro.

  29. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Interesting matchups the rest of the series. We need Nuno to come up big tonight facing Wheeler. Hopefully Nuno’s assortment of breaking pitches and changing speeds keeps Mets hitter off balance. Tommorrow night’s matchup I look forward to though, with the Mets calling up one of their top pitching prospects, Rafael Montero to face Tanaka. Then we get to see Chase Whitley’s debut against Dillon Gee. Gee has been very good this year. Lets hope we can at least manage a split onf this series.

  30. Against All Odds May 13th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 9:49 am
    I have an idea! Let’s develop a good farm system. Put Cashman in charge and no one will be able to compete with us. Watch out!

    ————————-

    http://i.imgur.com/fafdGpB.gif

  31. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Tackelberry

    Thanks for the correction. my bad.

  32. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    JOhnson and Roberts are playing pretty well right now, especially Roberts. JOhnson did have a big rbi triple last night, and a 2 run double the day before. Hard to fault McCann there in that last at bat. Couldn’t have hit that ball any harder. Duda just made a great play, otherwise, its 9-8 and 1st and 3rd 1 out.

  33. DONNYBROOK May 13th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    - TUESDAY MORNING MUSINGS -

    (1) I said yesterday that Defense was killing this team and right on cue Solarte does his ole routine late in the game. Floodgates follow.

    (2) I said when TEX returned from the D/L that he was chug-a-lugging his way around the bases, and was told something along the lines of his never being a speed merchant in the 1st Place. Well, now that a blind man can see it, it’s obvious that whatever the problem is, it was there upon his return from the D/L, and of More importance, is the Fact the condition has Worsened to the point where he can Not even run the bases at a moderate speed. The game ending DP should Not have even been in order. TEX should have been at 2B, (the result of a double), and the Yankees Only needing a single to tie the game. TEX’s currently degrading physical condition also explains his having trouble getting to the rail to catch that foul pop that the fan caught hell for, and it also explains how clumsy he looks when retreating for pop ups down the line. I’m Not going to get into ALL the balls that have gone off of his mitt, or the 3 pick off attempts in Anaheim that he Failed to even lay a glove on.

    (3) With all the injuries to the starting staff and bullpen guys being iffy, Girardi is going to have to ditch permitting relievers to go More than an inning. The Yankees need relievers that can go back-to-back- and maybe back days. Till the number of “walking wounded” related to pitching diminish, Girardi needs to Kibosh that experiment.

    (4) At this juncture in his career, Clairborne is just Not ready for the 8th inning high wire.

    (5) Even though he has stunk so far, I’ll stick with McCann. He clearly shows he wants to win, and is disgusted with his own current play. As an aside, McCann reminds me of a grown-up version of that kid catcher in “The Sand Lot”. This also weighs in his favor.

    (6) Missed the Gardner GS due to the satellite being momentarily KO’d by heavy rain. My loss.

  34. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    I was not a fan of the Beltran signing. Would have rather seen then sign a guy like Marlon Byrd to a 1 year deal and platoon him with Zolio in RF. Beltran at 37 on a 3 year deal spells trouble.

  35. 86w183 May 13th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    The yanks like to go halfway on things…..they want a good farm system but they don’t make the draft and keeping their picks a priority……they like to spend money but then stop short of filling all their holes and whine about the payroll…….you cant be halfway on this stuff and expect great results. Boston hoards draft picks……they spend money but they clearly prioritize the draft and player development more than the Yanks do.

    ************************************************************************

    This is true, but understandably true. the Yanks try to make progress in areas of youth and payroll expenses while remaining contenders for post-season play and it’s a difficult balancing act… and predictably they’ve had mixed results.

    Boston has won more World Series in the last decade+ but the Yanks have won more games and made more post-season appearances.

    Personally I was all prepared for a total rebuild either of the last two off-seasons, but I’m not sure the total fan base is/was/will ever be ready for that.

    Gotta run… late breakfast with my daughter who just finisher her Peace Corps service!

    Later all.. have a day

  36. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    You’re missing the point entirely

    ——————————–

    What is the point?

  37. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Yankees Pushing the Limits of their Pitching Staff from RAB’s

    Sabathia has shown throughout his career that he never makes excuses and will pitch through pain. He did it when he tore his meniscus in 2006 and 2010, he did when the bone spur in his elbow acted in up 2012, and he did it last September when he blew out his hamstring. Say what you want about his performance on the mound, but Sabathia has always been super accountable and a team first guy. That he finally said something about the knee indicates it was really bothering him.

    “That’s why I didn’t want to say anything,” said Sabathia to Chad Jennings, referring to the Nova and Pineda injuries. “But I think I was doing more damage to the team than helping the team by trying to hide it … I didn’t know what was making it swell up. Obviously, you know, it got pretty big on me after the start Sunday and after the start last night. So of course, I was getting a little nervous … I’m not going to make excuses or anything, but I felt it yesterday, and I just wanted to say something and let Stevie (Donohue) know.”

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/......+Blues%29

  38. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    DB:

    GIrardi had little choice but to bring in Claiborne there with Kelley, Betances and Warren all not available last night.

    I agree about McCann. He just got under one last night and in the 9th inning hit that ball right on the screws. Duda just made a great stab.

  39. bruceb May 13th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Johnson is batting .226 and Roberts .241. Their contributions have been sporadic, to say the least. Might get away with it if McCann and Beltran were hitting but they’re not. What would this offense be like if Solarte had not emerged from nowhere?

    I know we scored seven runs last night and that the pitching cost us the victory, but let’s not forget four of those runs came on Gardner doing something he never normally does…swinging at the first pitch.

  40. pat May 13th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    “Since returning from that early season hamstring injury — which gave him some time off — Teixeira’s never played more than seven days in a row. When he did, it was immediately after playing just one out of three days. He played for a week straight, had Thursday off, played three days in Milwaukee and said his legs were fatigued.”

    Can’t help but think he will be getting lots of rest during an extended DL stint sometime after reading that.

  41. DONNYBROOK May 13th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    - Tackelberry -

    Yeah, I know Girardi’s hands were tied regarding Clairborne, but they were tied due to his having used RP’s for More than an inning previously, and therefore being unavailable.

  42. Yankee Trader May 13th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    I’m afraid that Sabathia will have recurrences of right knee swelling and discomfort. He supposedly had a right knee partial menisectomy after the 2010 season. With the constant demands put on that joint, and the extra weight he has carried, he probably has some osteoarthritis.

  43. NYY fan in NH May 13th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    This team is spiraling out of control with these injuries. I can’t imagine what Tanaka is thinking now looking at the rotation and bullpen and the lineup.

  44. blake May 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    What is the point?”

    Obviously that 6 weeks isn’t long enough to judge a 5 year contract

  45. mick May 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    tex is hiding something, what there is to gain i don’t know he is headed to DL and doesn’t want to go…complete chaos, this team is cursed.

  46. DONNYBROOK May 13th, 2014 at 10:26 am

    If your running the Met’s and you see them come into Yankee Stadium and play like it’s Game 7, you gotta Look at Terry Collins Very closely. He’s obviously Not getting the Best out of his players on a daily basis.

  47. mick May 13th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    every team brings their A game against the Yankees, esp the Mets…we have no identity , the 09 team had a core in place, we do not and do not know how to win.

  48. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    But that is just the thing I judged this based on his contract for what he was when it was first signed. 17 million a year for his skill set is insane. It is 3 or so million a year away from being a superstar contract at least based on AAV.

    Now truth be told of course I didn’t think he would be hitting this bad but I expected low average maybe 240ish with 20 to 25 home runs while being constantly banged up with something and playing above average defense which is over rated anyway considering we had Posada all these years who truly a difference maker despite his short comings on defense

    Give me a 260 – 270 catcher who can hit 15 home runs and plays average defense for 8 to 10 million a year for a 3 year contract any day over what we have.

    Plus he is on the wrong side of 30 yet we give him 5 years on an old declining team as it is

  49. pat May 13th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Shame

    What we said……

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......-crickets/

  50. mick May 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    right now, the best thing to do would be to sit down mccann as he looks shell shocked and play jr murph…what a mess.

  51. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    mick May 13th, 2014 at 10:34 am
    right now, the best thing to do would be to sit down mccann as he looks shell shocked and play jr murph…what a mess.

    _______________________________

    No it wouldn’t. McCann hit 3 balls really hard last night. I think he is coming around

  52. bruceb May 13th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    every team brings their A game against the Yankees, esp the Mets…we have no identity , the 09 team had a core in place, we do not and do not know how to win.

    Agree with the first point 100 percent. Mets can’t get a hit with RISP against most teams but facing the Yanks, they look like WS champs. I can easily see this series going the same way as last year’s…Tanaka loses a 2-1 game and we get swept. Mets are coming out of a slump; we’re in the midst of one (pitching-wise, at least).

    Don’t agree with the last point. Quite simply, right now we’re not good enough to win.

  53. Ys Guy May 13th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    “Yankee Stadium” sucks. The name itself is an insult. I hope they find a corporate sponsor and change the name.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    I think New Yankee Stadium and it’s
    Counterfeit feel is
    Entirely appropriate for counterfeit Levine/Hal/Cashman trying to pretend for the last
    Few
    Years with their “run prevention/pitch framing’” worship that this is these are the Yankees.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2014 at 11:29 am

    Free Dellin!

  56. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Even if all injured players(Nova excluded) return, the team doesn’t look good enough to be competitive. Good thing Hal told Cashman we were good enough and spent all we would spend.
    Hal will lose a lot of money as the result of abysmal management over the past few years. But, let’s keep bringing back all the decison makers.

    I will be shocked if Teixiera is not on the DL within a few days. Groin tightness is more than fatigue.

    When will we hear about Beltran’s hyperextended elbow MRI? The team cannot keep waiting a week hoping players get healthy while playing with a short roster.

  57. charlestonchew May 13th, 2014 at 11:44 am

    There are struggles right now, but I don’t for a second believe that this team is somehow not going to make the playoffs. There are far too many talented players on this team and only one injury is significant–Nova’s. Things will come together.

    Just have to hope Beltran didn’t have some bad news last night… otherwise we might see Kendrys Morales on this team. *shiver*

  58. pat May 13th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Rangers have a rookie IF named Rougned Odor? Oh the things the NY tabs could do with that name.

  59. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Poetkiosk May 13th, 2014 at 5:28 am

    “Think of it this way, all the dead parts of the Yankees are falling away to reveal a new and better monster on the inside. Those that are getting hurt, for the most part were not contributing. The next flesh to fall away should be McCann and then our transformation will be complete.”

    —-

    This is an interesting thought. In every pseudo-calamity there is opportunity. It needs to be pointed out though that this isn’t all about the Yanks losing 60% of their starters. Lets face it, two of those three guys pitched awful. Nuno, while not pitching great, has been a lot better than Nova was. And the Yanks have yet to feel the loss of CC but he’s been one of the worst starters in the game since last April so how much could the Yanks be losing there? And sure the loss of Pineda has hurt. Phelps has not been very good but I doubt that he’s cost the Yanks more than a game or two if that.

    No, you can’t pin this on the injuries. Unless you believe Beltran has been hurt for awhile. The middle of the order and the starters have underperformed, and that def includes Kuroda who really needed to step up last night and did not. How many 2-run homers can you give up to bad hitters? That and a terribly constructed bullpen has gotten the Yanks to this point.

    So, lets finally get a chance to see some new blood. Who knows? Maybe there’s a silver lining here.

  60. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    If CC’s and Kuroda’s issues continue, does it put seeing Manny by the end of the year within the realm of possibility….? I know we’re a while off, but I’m looking for potential silver linings.

  61. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    We sure don’t want Morales because he can actually hit better than most on the team. Are you concerned it will hurt someone’s feelings?

  62. pat May 13th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    So, lets finally get a chance to see some new blood. Who knows? Maybe there’s a silver lining here.

    I swear I remember people saying that last year too.

  63. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    “it’s way too early to draw any conclusions on McCann.”

    —–

    It’s too early but it’s certainly not way too early. I said yesterday the Yanks should give him and the middle of the order 30 days. Now it’s down to 29 and counting. You can’t field a team and expect to win if your supposed big bats have an OBP below .300. Perhaps McCann was never a big bat to begin with and he his been miscast as a Russell Martin-type in disguise (as was pointed out by another poster yesterday).

    Either way Mr. McCann you are on the clock. . . .

  64. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    I swear I remember people saying that last year too.

    ————

    Yeah, you’re not imagining things. It might be unlikely but we can always hope. Maybe McCann starts spelling Tex at 1B more often and we get to see more of Murph.

    Sucks we don’t have a power bat in the OF that’s higher up in the system.

  65. austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    McCann and his five year contract will play. Thirty day clocks are silly.

    The bigger questionis whether Murphy will go down when Cervelli is ready.

  66. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    “It’s too early but it’s certainly not way too early”

    We are about 5% of the way through his contract……Id say that’s way too early

  67. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Perhaps McCann was never a big bat to begin with and he his been miscast as a Russell Martin-type in disguise (as was pointed out by another poster yesterday).

    ————

    He was never going to be an ideal middle of the order guy.. this is a trap the Yanks can’t stop falling into (after they set up the bamboo sticks and netting themselves, of course).

    They keep trying to fit circles into squares all over the place… miscasting guys for roles they’re ill prepared to fulfill. This season is dependent on everyone staying healthy in the order and producing the same results or very close to the results they produced in 2013. One guy going down turns into a major issue. Multiple guys not producing turns into a calamity. It’s all about roster construction and realistic expectations.

  68. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    “I swear I remember people saying that last year too”

    —–

    Probably was me. I was screaming in late May I believe for Almonte to be promoted and platooned with Wells and Ichiro to be released and replaced by Neal who was looking like a Solarte right about now. It took a few more weeks for Almonte to get his shot and then he got hurt. But he was ready last year. Even more ready this year. And at least so far, the farm is doing much better than last year. There might be a few more youngins who can contribute beyond Zoilo.

  69. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    We are about 5% of the way through his contract……Id say that’s way too early

    —–

    As I said yesterday, the Yanks need to forget about contracts and play the players who give them the best chance to succeed. You can’t throw away a season because some guys are on long term contracts. You need to adjust expectations for this season and do the best you can with what you have. If that means CC goes to the bullpen, so be it. If that means Jeter goes to the bottom of order. Do it. If that means McCann gets platooned go for it. Or even benched if he doesn’t come around.

    The deadline now is on or about June 10 to remake this team. Teams do this all the time. Earl Weaver made it his credo. McCann is a big boy he can handle it. If he needs to be benched, let him hit the reset button and come back next year. But neither he, Jeter, or CC are bigger than the team. Some people keep forgetting that.

  70. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    I remember in the 70′s The White Sox had two big guys who throw in the high 90′s with good secondary pitches but just couldn’t keep it together finding the strike zone consistently, there names , Terry Forster and Goose Gossage. This is the future for Dellin Betances, accept this, be thankful for this because he just might be the best great closer. He’s not a starting pitcher as his track record in the minors clearly support

  71. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    As I said yesterday, the Yanks need to forget about contracts and play the players who give them the best chance to succeed. ”

    This isn’t realistic…..and their best chance to win is to get McCann straightened out…..he can’t do that without playing.

  72. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    “Sucks we don’t have a power bat in the OF that’s higher up in the system”

    —–

    Almonte has serious power batting left-handed. I believe JAP and YF have seen it in person. YF said yesterday Almonte hit a ball over 400 feet to CF for a double batting right-handed.

  73. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    The bigger questionis whether Murphy will go down when Cervelli is ready.

    ————-

    Nah, I can’t even imagine they’d do that… they should prepare to get Sanchez up to AAA by the end of the year to get his feet wet and have him start there next year for the entire season.

    Let Murphy play 30-40% of the games this year, and plan to give him more next year.

    Release Cervelli or trade him if you can. Probably too late to the party on the latter, but might as well try.

  74. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 11:59 am
    “it’s way too early to draw any conclusions on McCann.”

    —–

    Either way Mr. McCann you are on the clock. . . .

    McCann is not on the clock, he has a 5 year contract, get used to it.

    At most they could play Murphy a little more vs lhp. McCann will come around.

  75. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    McCann isn’t an elite hitter…..he wasn’t signed to be that…..he was signed to be a good hitter for a catcher and I still think he will be that …..additionally he was signed to catch and handle the staff.

  76. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
    He’s not a starting pitcher as his track record in the minors clearly support

    His track record starting is while pitching with the windup. He has found consistency pitching from the stretch, prior to that is irrelevant. This has been said many times here by several people and still people don’t get it…

  77. mick May 13th, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    Either way Mr. McCann you are on the clock. . . .
    =============================
    Perhaps he’s another who is having a hard time adjusting to the pressure of playing here.
    He is under tremendous pressure each AB to produce instead of just relaxing.

  78. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    They lost last night because of pitching…..I’m afraid it’s gonna be that way a lot more often going forward unfortunately……they need a starter badly

  79. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    At most they could play Murphy a little more vs lhp. McCann will come around.

    ————————————–

    How do you know he will come around?

  80. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    “Nah, I can’t even imagine they’d do that… they should prepare to get Sanchez up to AAA by the end of the year to get his feet wet and have him start there next year for the entire season.”

    —–

    There’s been some rumblings about Sanchez’s defense recently. A closed door meeting with the manager? Maybe YF can weigh in on this.

  81. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    And if they are going to keep Betances in the bullpen, stop screwing around and use him like 96 Rivera, everyone else in the pen after Robertson sucks.

  82. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Except for Warren of course.

  83. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    The shift is doing just what teams want it to do to players with McCann……he’s thinking about it way too much. He’s trying to be that guy that beats it by going the other way when all he’s done his whole career is pull the ball and drive the ball……

    I don’t mind guys like him slappin the ball the other way occasionally……but mostly he needs to just hit and try to drive the ball……stop getting away from yourself

  84. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    McCann’s profile has already changed. Murphy is playing more than what would have been the case had McCann been living up to expectations. This reduced profile can and should continue. The clock has already started to run.

  85. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:14 pm
    McCann isn’t an elite hitter…..he wasn’t signed to be that…..he was signed to be a good hitter for a catcher and I still think he will be that …..additionally he was signed to catch and handle the staff.
    —————–
    Common sense finally. Thank you Blake.

  86. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    The question is why do these free agent hitters keep changing their approach when they come over here?

  87. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    And McCann shouldn’t have taken heat for the 9th inning dp, he smoked that ball. That’s how he needs to hit.

  88. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    “McCann isn’t an elite hitter”

    —–

    If that’s the case he shouldn’t be in the middle of the order. He certainly shouldn’t be hitting above Solarte, who actually can hit some. Maybe a lot.

    Like I’ve been saying, time to re-adjust expectations and forget about the contract.

  89. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:14 pm
    McCann isn’t an elite hitter…..he wasn’t signed to be that…..he was signed to be a good hitter for a catcher and I still think he will be that …..additionally he was signed to catch and handle the staff.

    —————

    The problem is, he kinda was signed for that by the Yankees… again, circle in a square. He’s always been lined up to be a 3-4-5 batter. They can’t seem to stop doing this, even when there’s ample evidence surrounding the players in question.

  90. mick May 13th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    If you bat McCann 7th then 3-6 must include Soriano, Beltran, Tex and Solarte.
    God forbid, they might have to bat Jeter 3rd, vs leftys is a no brainer and leadoff with ellsbury and gardner.
    as it looks beltran and tex could be gone awhile but they can always hit banjo hitter ellsbury 3rd.
    joe, get creative…

  91. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Sanchez may have defensive issues, but I wouldn’t hold him back in AA all year because of it. Let him move up and have them keep an eye on him and help him along on the defensive end.

    Either way, I don’t see why anyone would want Cervelli back and Murphy back in AAA. Murphy has a future with this club (or maybe another). So let him build value where it counts.

  92. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    “The problem is, he kinda was signed for that by the Yankees… again, circle in a square. He’s always been lined up to be a 3-4-5 batter. They can’t seem to stop doing this, even when there’s ample evidence surrounding the players in question.”

    Not really ….an elite hitter that catches gets a Joe Mauer contract or more …..you can hit 5th in a good lineup and not be an elite hitter. 5/85 was actually less than market value most folks thought or right at it for what he is and has been in his career

  93. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    bbb51. Betances misses the glove too many times to be in the starting rotation. He has a gifted arm no doubt, but he just can’t throw strikes on demand. I remember a few years back having this same debate about Joba and at the time myself and SJ took the same position as I do know with Dellin. The rebuttal was there’s plenty of clubs that would turn Joba back into a starter. Well free agency arrives and guess what, Joba is back as a setup guy . Oh yeah, Phillip Hughes is still a starting pitcher.

  94. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    OBP

    Solarte .405

    Ichiro .397

    Tex .389

    Beltran .286

    Soriano .282

    McCann .250

    ———-

    Sometimes figuring out baseball is not really all that hard

  95. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    You know how Girardi works, Solarte hasn’t earned hitting 5th (or higher) yet (he did it once).

    vs rhp now with Beltran out I’d start out with Gardner – Solarte – Ellsbury.

  96. mick May 13th, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    i used to think mccann wasn’t thinking HR but by now he must. join the club with soriano and tex. if we don’t do damage by his ab we are in trouble as he doesn’t look ready to carry a team.
    if we can afford to drop him in the order and relieve the pressure we should .

  97. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    Betances as I’ve said before is right where he needs to be…..either as the future set up man or future closer of the Yankees. He finally is contributing and lets be happy with that and not mess with him…….

  98. UnKnown May 13th, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    NEW YORK — The New York Yankees continued to say all the right things. What else can they do? That’s the admirable thing about this franchise. Even as their injury list grows ridiculously long, the bottom line does not change.

    “Never,” Derek Jeter said.

    Never?

    “What can you do?” Jeter asked. “Other guys have got to step up. That’s the bottom line.”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
    ——————-

    I like it Captain. That’s the mindset boys.

  99. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Pat M, Betances has only 4.1 bb/9 now and that has been trending down. As I pointed out yesterday, there are several guys in the bullpen and rotation that have the same or worse bb/9 than he does.

  100. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    This is what the Yankees do… they dig a giant hold and fill it with pointy bamboo sticks that could kill you. Then, they cover it up with a net, which they cover with dirt and leaves and forest-y, camouflage-y things. The net gets tied to a trip line. They giggle at the prospect of catching some poor unsuspecting fools in it.

    Then……. the Yankees trip over their own trip line. Are strung up by their asses in the net they laid down. And are completely caught off guard by the entire affair, start to finish.

    John Sterling narrates the entire order of events ending with ‘you just can’t predict baseball, Suzyn!’ and everyone cracks up (aside from the people on this blog who have had their sense of humor beaten out of them by this organization over the last 4 years).

  101. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    “i used to think mccann wasn’t thinking HR but by now he must. join the club with soriano and tex. if we don’t do damage by his ab we are in trouble as he doesn’t look ready to carry a team.”

    That’s what he is! He hits homers and walks a good bit……he’s not joe Mauer or Buster posey and of folks thought that then their expectations were wrong goin in.

    The yanks signed McCann because he’s a 30 homer threat in YS and because he’s been the best pitch framer in baseball over the last 5 seasons……they didn’t sign him to hit .315

  102. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Murphy is the one to keep. I said that last year. I always like the “second tier” prospects more than the top guys. Trade the top guys and keep the Canos, Murphys, Floreses and Almontes.

  103. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    The Yankees were right about Joba, they were right about Hughes, they were right about Montero and they are right about Betances. One can take issue with their draft selection, development processes, etc., but after working with players for years they collectively, the baseball operations people do have a clue what a player’s capabilities are.

  104. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Shame,
    Dustin Pedroia scurries across the net before the Yankees fall in

  105. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Not really ….an elite hitter that catches gets a Joe Mauer contract or more …..you can hit 5th in a good lineup and not be an elite hitter.

    —————

    I think that ‘in a good lineup’ qualifier is the most important part of that sentence. McCann was signed to fill an essential need for a middle of the order bat. His bat was never going to be what they needed and signing Beltran for 3 years to be his tag team partner wasn’t hugely helpful.

    All of these guys need to be going at their 2013 production rate to make this team work. They can’t be injured, they can’t slump for a month; they need to be consistent bats. What was the likelihood of that happening…?

    They should probably start batting Ellsbury 3rd, Tex 4th, Solarte 5th, and Sori and McCann 6th and 7th.

  106. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
    Shame,
    Dustin Pedroia scurries across the net before the Yankees fall in

    ————–

    YES!

  107. mick May 13th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    The yanks signed McCann because he’s a 30 homer threat in YS and because he’s been the best pitch framer in baseball over the last 5 seasons
    ============================
    hopefully he breaks out soon but lets hope he doesn’t dwell on his lack of power so far.
    if he starts thinking HR only he could continue to slump.

  108. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    Jobas career starting pitcher numbers are better than Phil Hughes starting pitcher numbers. Hughes reliever numbers are better. Just FYI

  109. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Phil Hughes has 1 pitch

  110. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    How come you left Gardner off of your OBP list?

  111. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    blake…..That’s Dellin’s ” Ticket to Ride ” in the Big Leagues. He just might become a monster out there for years to come. Remember when K-Rod arrived on the scene in September 2002, dude threw gas with a brutal slider. But he too had trouble with strikes on demand but was able to harness it just enough to become very very good. He’s re-invented himself but he’s still very effective.

  112. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    Maybe it’s me, but I shudder every time a new Yankee starts talking about how inviting the short porch is in Yankee Stadium. McCann was doing that in ST, being egged on by the Yankee media types.

    I just don’t think that’s a good way for any hitter to think.

  113. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    I love that when a prospect has a flash of competency, short term, the irrational anointing begins. What’s the rush?

  114. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Phil Hughes has 60 MLB wins.

  115. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    If Beltran and Tex go to the DL, I wonder if the payroll on the DL & suspended list exceeds the active roster payroll?

    This is turning into a huge mess here. What the Yankees cannot do is let the players dictate whether or not they go on the DL. If you’re not between 80-100%, you shouldn’t be on the field. You cost the team games.

    Last night was horrid. Matt Thornton throws 96 and can’t seem to get anyone out. Preston Claiborne shouldn’t even be up here. The pen is cooked because they have to bail out the starters early and often except when Tanaka pitches. It’s a recipe for disaster.

    The best thing the team can do is put the injured guys on the DL, get some healthy players up here and hope to play around .500.

    All those feel good stories in spring training about how no one is getting injured sure were indicator of nothing.

  116. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
    Phil Hughes has 1 pitch
    —————–
    If you mean he has one pitch he throws relatively well, I would agree. He throws more than one pitch though.

  117. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    “blake…..That’s Dellin’s ” Ticket to Ride ” in the Big League”

    He’s got front line closer potential as a reliever because he just has to air it out for 10-15 pitches and try to hold it over the plate……as a starter I just don’t see him being able to hold his delivery together and be efficient enough to not throw 90 pitches in 4 innings every other start

  118. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Also, when I say ‘John Sterling narrates the order of events’ what I really mean is ‘John Sterling talks about unrelated events as these events occur and finally tells us that the Yankees have starved to death after being trapped in a net for 96 straight hours.’

  119. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Hughes wasn’t a good fit in NY but I think his contract with the twins will be good value for them….he’s pitching ok now there

  120. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
    Jobas career starting pitcher numbers are better than Phil Hughes starting pitcher numbers. Hughes reliever numbers are better. Just FYI
    ——————
    You just did a very good job making the case that stats are often deceiving and don’t tell an accurate story. Thanks.

  121. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    How come you left Gardner off of your OBP list?

    ——

    I was just doing the top and bottom three in the line up. Ellsbury is actually fourth at .357 and Gardner is 5th at .348. If you look at Gardner’s triple slash, he’s basically where he always is. I’ve said this before, when healthy Gardner is a very consistent offensive performer. Just not right for the Yanks tho as a LF.

  122. blake May 13th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    “If Beltran and Tex go to the DL, I wonder if the payroll on the DL & suspended list exceeds the active roster payroll?”

    Who could have seen this coming :|
    Beltran been hurt hurts them bad…..he’s supposed to be their best hitter and really was early

  123. SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Not everyone thrives in the unforgiving media and fan glare of the NY lights.

  124. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    I’ve always felt based on pitcher profile, Joba was the starter and Hughes was the reliever. But that ship sailed ages ago.

  125. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
    Murphy is the one to keep. I said that last year. I always like the “second tier” prospects more than the top guys. Trade the top guys and keep the Canos, Murphys, Floreses and Almontes.

    ————

    I still think Murphy and Sanchez could be a nice duo in the not-so-distant future. I’m open to trading pretty much everyone, but they could make it work with McCann as a 1B/DH/C in the last 3 years of his deal. His power has to be there though. That’s really what McCann was brought here for. And you can’t have him at 1B without it.

  126. mick May 13th, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    60% of out staff is down, kuroda is not kuroda, why is this happening?
    it’s not just to us.
    these injuries could be a result of steroid usage thru the years.
    as of now we are going nowhere.
    1st the Sp, then the pen in implosion order.
    the offense has always been a question.
    deep doodoo…

  127. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    “The best thing the team can do is put the injured guys on the DL, get some healthy players up here and hope to play around .500.”

    —–

    This seems almost too obvious doesn’t it? This is where you need a strong GM. The manager is probably too close. Kelly should have been DL’d last week. Who knows when Beltran should have been DL’d. Maybe Tex should be DL’d now. Can’t keep playing short.

  128. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    Joba did not fail as a starter, the Yankees simply gave up on him. He had a sensational 08 and a just fine full first year in the bigs in 09. Certainly was not any worse than the 3 or 4 seasons Phil Hughes spent stinking up the joint.

    The Yankees were too scared to have Hughes & Joba in the same rotation so they picked Hughes. Its their development problem.

  129. AAA May 13th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    McCann’s BABIP currently sits at .213. Over is career that number has been .287, though it has been lower the last couple years, likely due to more teams employing shifts. Either way, it’s not going to stay at .213

    Slightly more troubling to me is the walk rate to this point is well below his career norm. Maybe it’s an adjustment to a new league? Who knows? I never bought him as a 30 homer guy, but I do buy him as one of the better hitting catchers in MLB. I think things will start working out for him in time.

  130. tomingeorgia May 13th, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    blake,
    The doubts about McCann come from people who haven’t watched him for the last ten years, as we have. He’s the goods, and will deliver on that contract. Just as I trust some of the MiLB mavens around here to know more about the prospects than I do, folks should respect your confidence in McCann. He’ll come around.

  131. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    I also agree strongly with the thoughts regarding McCann et al. The Yankees had a chance to sign a middle of the order hitter this offseason but they let Cano walk. Beltran, McCann, and Soriano are all supporting cast types, no longer true middle order hitters. Especially not with their weak OBPs.

    Tex is at least showing his mettle, if he can stay healthy.

  132. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    I was just doing the top and bottom three in the line up

    ————

    Ah, gotcha. And yes I agree. Gardner is one of the sharpened bamboo sticks. Or maybe he’s a pulley for the trip line.. either way, he’s another perfect example of them not constructing a roster properly. They put guys in positions where they can’t fulfill the expectations.

  133. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Another thing. I don’t have the stat breakdown, but isn’t it pretty obvious now that Soriano is not a DH? He just looks totally lost at the plate when he’s not in the field. To me, his ABs look immeasurably better when he’s in the OF.

  134. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    Not everyone thrives in the unforgiving media and fan glare of the NY lights.

    ————–

    With the starters struggling, McCann has really flown under the radar. He’s not taken much heat from the fans or the writers. Not yet anyway.

  135. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    @BenBadler 56s

    This could get very, very interesting. Cuban star OF Alfredo Despaigne is in Mexico on a Dominican passport: http://bit.ly/1jDz8kh

    Just saying, right now, that if this guy defects, the Yankees should NOT let him get away. I now await all the people who want to argue roster crunch on why the Yankees should not sign a 27 year old insanely good cuban outfielder.

  136. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    I see you’re still very skilled at finger pointing. Shame you couldn’t come out and watch HS games and point out to me who had the skills to move along and why. Eye ball observations and then write a report and send it on. No war, no fx pitch or all the other little tools you spout here . That being said, I know there’s a few here who could fill that role .

  137. AAA May 13th, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    60% of out staff is down, kuroda is not kuroda, why is this happening?

    ================================

    Kuroda is getting on in years. There were indications towards the end of last season that the tank might be running low (1-7, 5.00+ ERA). He still battles like hell, but I don’t think there’s a great deal left.

  138. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    I think Cash has been castrated in terms of organizational influence.. what they need is an FO that let’s the baseball think-tank run the baseball operations.

    Instead you have Levine getting his hands in there and making a mess.

  139. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    bigdan22. Soriano should be playing more in the field.., he tries to compress 9 innings into three swings every ab. He’s always been a free swinger as we know, but he’s over the top when he just dh’s.

  140. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    “I also agree strongly with the thoughts regarding McCann et al. The Yankees had a chance to sign a middle of the order hitter this offseason but they let Cano walk. Beltran, McCann, and Soriano are all supporting cast types, no longer true middle order hitters. Especially not with their weak OBPs”

    —-

    True, but what to do going forward? I think you have to stick with Beltran in the middle but for the time being concentrate on getting him healthy. McCann needs to go to the 7th spot and replaced by Solarte. That’s a pretty easy fix. Who knows, that may get McCann started. Sori I’m afraid needs to play the OF. Maybe you keep Ells at 3 and make Gardner leadoff. I’d actually like to see Roberts as the two guy but that won’t happen.

    I still believe Almonte is the middle of the order hitter that the Yanks desperately need now.

  141. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 12:58 pm
    I see you’re still very skilled at finger pointing. Shame you couldn’t come out and watch HS games and point out to me who had the skills to move along and why. Eye ball observations and then write a report and send it on. No war, no fx pitch or all the other little tools you spout here . That being said, I know there’s a few here who could fill that role .

    ———–

    Lol, I’m not finger pointing, just showing that there are multiple instances of Yankees employing guys to do jobs they aren’t designed/equipped to do. Gardner being the starting LFer is one of them – something I’d imagine you’d agree with? – as much as McCann being a middle of the order bat (with Soriano and Beltran as his bookends) is another.

    I don’t use a ton of metrics because it’s not my forte. But I do know that you can’t throw a fastball on an upward trajectory so I suppose you and I are 1-1. ;)

  142. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    He’s always been a free swinger as we know, but he’s over the top when he just dh’s.

    ———–

    Oh, so you’re saying they’re not employing one of their starters properly?

    Interesting lol….

  143. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....on-103275/

    Interesting bit on David Robertson’s usage so far. It kind of sucks that D-Rob has to be the closer because it put their best reliever into a role that so far has rarely pitched.

  144. bigdan22 May 13th, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    I’d say once Beltran gets healthy the middle should be Ellsbury, Beltran, Tex, Solarte. Follow Solarte with McCann or Sori. They can be flipped either way. That at least gives you four consecutive OBP guys (assuming Beltran comes around).

  145. Giuseppe Franco May 13th, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    SweetSpot May 13th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Not everyone thrives in the unforgiving media and fan glare of the NY lights.

    —-
    That wasn’t the problem with Hughes at all.

    You have a right-handed extreme fly-ball pitcher pitching half his starts in a bandbox. That’s why he didn’t succeed in NY.

    It had nothing to do with the media or the NY lights.

  146. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Quite a night tonight with Yanks-Mets game 2 and Rangers-Penguins game 7, as Rangers try to complete a comeback from 3-1 down and maybe setup another NY-Boston showdown!

  147. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Pat M,

    There’s no way this isn’t going to come across aggressive, but it’s honestly not meant to be. We all get it, you played baseball for a living. You have insights that some of us will never have. But if all you’re gonna do is come in here and tell people who didn’t do that for a living they know nothing about what they are watching and seeing, it gets old.

    What I do for a living most people also dream about doing and have all kinds of opinions on. I’ve never once in my entire life said to someone with an opinion “I know way more about this than you so shut up. You’re not qualified to think that.”.

    And for the record I enjoy you as a poster and I’m glad Chad allowed you to come back.

  148. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Shame Spencer, my remarks were not directed at you at all. I never wanted McCann, and as far as a rising fastball goes, well I guess it’s just one of those things you’d have to see for yourself by getting into a batters box.

  149. AAA May 13th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    maybe setup another NY-Boston showdown!

    =========================

    They don’t want Boston. They want Montreal.

  150. Giuseppe Franco May 13th, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    Regarding Betances’ role, I’d also like to see them give him another shot at the starting rotation.

    But I know damn well that’s not going to happen. He will never see the rotation again as long as he’s wearing pinstripes.

  151. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    G.Love . Thank you and I do not mean to come off that way at all except when push come to shove with one individual who spouts bs all the time, well then this is what occurs. Not’s not my nature however it’ll be a non issue moving forward.

  152. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    well I guess it’s just one of those things you’d have to see for yourself by getting into a batters box.

    Actually it doesnt exist, so theres no need to step into the batters box at all. Doing so will not cause physics to change or anything. It is physically impossible for a fastball to rise.

    Hope this helps going forward

  153. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Pat M,

    I’m relieved you took it the right way. I think you bring a great perspective here that was frankly missing, but sometimes when you post stuff like that it reads in a way I don’t think you really intended it to.

  154. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Threats and stern talk are hallmarks of Yankee executive management, but no one seems to be ever held accountable. Cashman will hide behind the excuse of injuries, but we all know that the composition of this team is seriously flawed. All but the Pollyannas have said so.

    When a career minor leaguer is your most surprising and exciting player, doesn’t that speak volumes? Unfortunately for Jeter, he hung around at least one year too long.

    Until someone is held accountable, we’re just going to get more of the same.

  155. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Robertson, Betances and Warren are their top 3 relievers right now and Girardi needs to use them as such, if they aren’t going to start.

  156. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
    Shame Spencer, my remarks were not directed at you at all. I never wanted McCann, and as far as a rising fastball goes, well I guess it’s just one of those things you’d have to see for yourself by getting into a batters box.

    —————

    I thought you were calling me the finger pointer, which I do for a living incidentally as an HR professional. I really don’t mind the categorization either, but it seems like even if you don’t know a lot about baseball you can see this team isn’t put together all that well, right?

    It’s not one guy on the team or one member of the FO. There are too many issues that start at the top with their general philosophy that result in what we are both seeing and the stats show: a mediocre club.

    The only saving grace for this team has been a surprisingly weak AL East. How long does that last? It seems like almost every team in the AL is still well within reach of the 2nd WC slot.

  157. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Jeter’s not why we’re losing.

    The pitching was abysmal last night. We made the Mets look like the Yankees last night.

    You score 7, you should end up with a W.

    I think they need to aggressive with some of the higher ceiling arms sitting in AA and AAA and start to weed out the quad A arms who are merely holding spots.

    I also think if Zoilo is tearing the cover off the ball in AAA, DL Beltran to get him 100% and give Zoilo RF for a few weeks. If he produces, it opens up a lot of possibilities for the team and gets us younger.

    I won’t say “healthier” though since the injury cloud hovering over this team doesn’t care if you’re young or old anymore.

  158. Giuseppe Franco May 13th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Until someone is held accountable, we’re just going to get more of the same.

    ——

    That’s precisely why many of us so longer have blind faith in the Yankee FO.

    Cashman has made a lot of big promises and hasn’t delivered. Not only is Cashman not being held accountable but also the developmental side.

    The same people who all contributed in creating this mess remain in their respective positions.

    Not sure how they expect to improve when they keep making the same mistakes over and over again.

  159. bruceb May 13th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Robertson, Betances and Warren are their top 3 relievers right now and Girardi needs to use them as such, if they aren’t going to start.

    You have to add Kelley to that list. I think it was poor management having 3 of the 4 unavailable last night for game one of a key (or what should be a key) series for the Yankees. One loss can lead to two, three, four…

  160. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    What’s funny or sad is the best arms on the team right now are Tanaka, Betances, Warren and Robertsen and three of them are in the pen. We’re set up to win 1 start out of 5 right now.

    I can’t give up on Kuroda though but I’m concerned. He looks like a #3-4 starter and CC looks like a long reliever. Everything is upside down.

  161. bbb51 May 13th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Kelley, maybe, if he’s healthy, right now he is not.

  162. Pat M. May 13th, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    G.Love…..Thank’s for the heads-up…

  163. pat May 13th, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    They need more players that are responsible for winning and less that are “not why we’re losing”

  164. blake May 13th, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    What’s funny or sad is the best arms on the team right now are Tanaka, Betances, Warren and Robertsen and three of them are in the pen. We’re set up to win 1 start out of 5 right now.”

    They need a pitcher bad…..and not a belly itcher…..a good pitcher. Cliff Lee please

  165. yankinvegas May 13th, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Even this early in the season, it looks like our team is not good enough to combat the A effort the opponents give every day.
    A horse bleep team like the Mets knows that after these games, the next big games they play will be next April. The same with Pittsburgh, and both Chicago teams. We simply are not able to match that intensity.
    Maybe the injury bug that has hammered us relentlessly last year and so far in 2014 will stop. Maybe this is just the natural ending of the organization being beaten down by Bud Selig’s constant barrage of rules instituted to ruin one team, the New York Yankees. And us not being able to maneuver around these restrictions because Brian Cashman is a reactor, not a proactive executive.
    All that being said, the division stinks and maybe we will be the team to get to 88 wins and finish first.
    Bring up Almonte and play him. Maybe he can join with Solarte and give the team a jolt of youth and excitement.
    It is way too early to give up on McCann, but is indicative of the negative karma that has shrouded this team since the instant that Jeter blew out his ankle against Detroit in the ALCS in 2012 that he hammers the ball and Duda, who is a terrible first baseman makes a great play and a perfect throw to a third baseman coming across the bag at second to pivot a double play.

  166. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    I get that it’s impossible to evaluate everything via metrics, but even baseball people were questioning if this team was really going to be competitive. The Vegas odds had to be calculated somehow, right?

  167. blake May 13th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    @Alyssa_Milano: #worksforme Take Your First Look at Ben Affleck as Batman http://t.co/XyjpNwF1G4 @PasteMagazine

    Now to makes y’all’s day even worse….

  168. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    blake,

    The Phillies call you up and offer Lee & Utley with no cash considerations for Gary Sanchez, Betances, Banuelos, Aaron Judge, Severino and Rafael DePaula…do you do it?

  169. G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I think the only way to get the injury bug to stop is to get the clearly injured guys on the DL and get them 100%. It’s too early in the season to play warrior gut through injuries style. That’s for the stretch run.

  170. sammiejohnson May 13th, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    austinmac May 13th, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    The bigger questionis whether Murphy will go down when Cervelli is ready.

    _________________________

    This will be interesting. Cervelli is out of options. Murphy is playing well. The FO should value keeping JR with the big club. So what to do with Cervelli? That leaves trade or DFA. If they DFA him, he will certainly be claimed off waivers by someone. As for a trade, I seriously doubt Cervelli will bring back much in return.

    But, FTR, I expect the FO to do the absolute easiest (and wrong) thing. They will most likely just install Cervelli as BUC and send Murphy down.

  171. blake May 13th, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    “The Phillies call you up and offer Lee & Utley with no cash considerations for Gary Sanchez, Betances, Banuelos, Aaron Judge, Severino and Rafael DePaula…do you do it?”

    No not all that….some of that though probably
    . That would really gut the system and hurt the current bullpen a lot as well …..but Id certainly give a good but to add lee and Utley to this roster…..they’d significantly improve their short term chances

  172. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Seattle now has a better record than we do. They also have two superb starters. Where are all the arrogant fans who mocked Cano’s decision?

    I would argue that Seattle has a better chance to make the playoffs than do the Yankees. Lots of young guys out there who aren’t made of glass like our AARP roster. Cano doesn’t have much to regret.

  173. Doreen May 13th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    G. Love May 13th, 2014 at 1:52 pm
    I think the only way to get the injury bug to stop is to get the clearly injured guys on the DL and get them 100%. It’s too early in the season to play warrior gut through injuries style. That’s for the stretch run

    ****

    I agree with this G. Love.

  174. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Lots of young guys out there who aren’t made of glass like our AARP roster. Cano doesn’t have much to regret.

    —————————————

    You think our development system stinks? They could have the worst in baseball as far as hitters go anyway

  175. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    But, FTR, I expect the FO to do the absolute easiest (and wrong) thing. They will most likely just install Cervelli as BUC and send Murphy down.

    ————-

    Probably.

    Batfleck lmao.

  176. CompassRosy May 13th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
    Seattle now has a better record than we do. They also have two superb starters. Where are all the arrogant fans who mocked Cano’s decision?

    I would argue that Seattle has a better chance to make the playoffs than do the Yankees. Lots of young guys out there who aren’t made of glass like our AARP roster. Cano doesn’t have much to regret.

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    I would posit that it’s a bit too early to be declarative either way ;-)
    The M’s have a VERY tough row to hoe in the ALW . . .
    they seem to be holding their own vs. good teams but, they need to start making hay vs. the lessor ones. And, definitely need to shore up that shabby/spotty DEE!

    ‘t will be good to get Paxton and Walker back at some point ~ they appear to be making good progress in their rehabs. With Miller struggling mightily, hard not to notice Chris Taylor’s continued minor league success early on in AAA . . .

    oh – and James Jones, speediest M since Ichiro :-)

  177. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Triple — what do we really have to look forward to? Tanaka every 5 days? Solarte’s ABs? Betances? I’m not trying to be a downer, but I won’t sugarcoat it either.

    What about the longer term? ARod’s return? CC for a few more years? Beltran for two+? McCann for what seems like an eternity?

  178. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Nuno had a great outting last time. I look forward to seeing him repeat against a struggling offensive team.

    Then tomorrow we get to watch the Tankees further demoralize their club.

    We can still win this series.

    Let’s just do that.

  179. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Solarte is a great story… I’m still dubious, even though he’s put together some nice ABs over the last two months. I wanna see it play out over a full season. But he’s someone worth being excited about. He’s not a can’t miss prospect and he shouldn’t be your best player, but it’s a great story, isn’t it?

  180. Tackelberry May 13th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
    Seattle now has a better record than we do. They also have two superb starters. Where are all the arrogant fans who mocked Cano’s decision?

    I would argue that Seattle has a better chance to make the playoffs than do the Yankees. Lots of young guys out there who aren’t made of glass like our AARP roster. Cano doesn’t have much to regret.

    _____________________________________

    LOL!! Its May 13. Long way to go

  181. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    For some reason I feel like tomorrow is going to be Tanaka’s first loss.

  182. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    “LOL!! Its May 13. Long way to go”

    I know. That’s the unfortunate thing.

  183. Mottsx May 13th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    For some reason I feel like tomorrow is going to be Tanaka’s first loss.
    ==============

    Because I’m going to the game =(

  184. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Don’t say that about the Tankees… the Tankees will go undefeated this year.

    It’s that other team, the Yankees, that might have some issues.

  185. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Jerkface says:
    May 13, 2014 at 2:22 pm
    For some reason I feel like tomorrow is going to be Tanaka’s first loss.

    So there is no hope then……

  186. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    I and others said before the season that despite what they did and how much money they spent……they weren’t gonna have much of a chance if CC was it better and if Kuroda didn’t bounce back from his finish to 2013…….so far we know this story.

  187. Triple Short of a Cycle May 13th, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    The real sobering fact is next year without arbitration our payroll is 161 million.

    So we have 20 million or so if we stay at this year’s payroll to acquire a SS,2B at least 1 or 2 BP guys and at least 1 guy in the rotation assuming Kuroda retires and that’s with CC and Pineda in the rotation

  188. Mottsx May 13th, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    I’ve seen a few trade proposals for Samaradzija. Flores, Sanchez, Whitley plus 1. If they can extend him, go for it. He can’t be happy with his winless quality start streak.

  189. pat May 13th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    The Yankees and Alex playing a $60M game of chicken and waiting for the other one to blink could get interesting.

    RiverAveBlues
    Here’s a piece on what ARod is up to: http://nym.ag/1sqtGBO Interesting for what it doesn’t say as it is what it does say.

  190. Giuseppe Franco May 13th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    I and others said before the season that despite what they did and how much money they spent……they weren’t gonna have much of a chance if CC was it better and if Kuroda didn’t bounce back from his finish to 2013…….so far we know this story.

    —–

    Just like last season, they constructed this team by giving them little margin for error.

    Some of us called it “re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic.”

    None of this should be coming as a surprise. Anyone could see it if they simply removed their rose colored glasses.

  191. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Id rather have Lee than JS

  192. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    Some of us called it “re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic.””

    Kinda yea….I do think this team has a better baseline to win and has more of a chance to figure it out than last years team though…..but they have so much age and injury risk that the results may end up the same or worse.

    I mean they have Tanaka but if the rest of the rotation sucks or is hurt there isn’t much you can do……

  193. UKYankee May 13th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    I’m a little more worried than most about Pineda. there’s major is part of the “rotator cuff”, so actually a shoulder injury. Very much part of the arm deceleration at the end of throwing action

  194. Mottsx May 13th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Lee is old and his wife won’t come here because Yankees fans spit on her. Scumbags.

  195. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    “I’m a little more worried than most about Pineda. there’s major is part of the “rotator cuff”, so actually a shoulder injury. Very much part of the arm deceleration at the end of throwing action”

    I think there is always gonna be worry with Pineda…..at least for awhile.

  196. Mottsx May 13th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Who spits on a woman, let alone a players wife?

  197. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Mottsx says:
    May 13, 2014 at 2:51 pm
    Lee is old and his wife won’t come here because Yankees fans spit on her. Scumbags.

    That was a long time ago….and yea he is old but he’s good……he’s never stopped being good…..we know that mercenary can pitch anywhere so that’s all I care about

  198. Mottsx May 13th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    True. MLB ranked him #1 pitcher right now. So he’s still got some juice left in that arm.

  199. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    If you have tank and lee as 1/2 in the rotation then just get to the playoffs somehow and they got a shot at least …..

  200. blake May 13th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Mottsx says:
    May 13, 2014 at 2:51 pm
    Who spits on a woman, let alone a players wife?

    Morons but every stadium has those…..Lee should care more about how the Yankees have wanted him forever

  201. Shame Spencer May 13th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    …….so far we know this story.

    —————

    Don’t you wish this was more like a choose your own adventure book?

    (Those books were awesome but tbh, I have terrible luck and would always choose the path that led to death most quickly.)

  202. Jerkface May 13th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    (Those books were awesome but tbh, I have terrible luck and would always choose the path that led to death most quickly.)

    Page 68

    CC Sabathia has fallen into a pit of army ants and has been eaten alive.

  203. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    “CC Sabathia has fallen into a pit of army ants and has been eaten alive.”

    Do we still have to pay the family for the remaining years on his contract?

  204. pat May 13th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Joelsherman1
    Teixeira starts as DH, no Beltran in lineup #Yankees

  205. Against All Odds May 13th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Didn’t Lee come out at the press conference and say the incident never happened.

  206. pat May 13th, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    Joelsherman1
    Beltran, Ichiro, Kelley are all listed on BP sheet and do not yet see a locker set up for new player #Yankees

  207. ScottinSJ May 13th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Just DL Beltran already. Even if the injury isn’t too severe, we need someone who will play hard and produce. Beltran has been a liability at the plate and in the field.

    Where have you gone, Zoilo Almonte?

  208. Hankflorida May 13th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    If Betances and Warren were in the starting rotation, could they last until the 6th inning because of pitch counts and then who takes over? Right now, they can be the bridge to Kelly and Robertson. I prefer pitchers like them to start and can challenge hitters rather then the finess pitchers, but at this point, there are no replacements in the bullpen and we have to go with Phelps and Nuno and hope.

  209. Chip May 13th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Here’s what I would do:

    Beltran and Ichiro to the DL
    Warren and Daley to AAA
    Billings to the 60 day DL
    DFA Austin Romine
    Call up Whitley, Flores, Canzler and Almonte.

    Let Beltran get back to 100% which he hasn’t been since crashing the wall in Tampa
    Ichiro’s an old man, they shouldn’t mess with backs.

    Betances should be in the 7th/8th inning meaning that Warren’s biggest role should be as an alternative to Vidal Nuno at this point. A bullpen of Betances, Claiborne, Kelley, Robertson, Thornton, Aceves should be plenty.

    Let Canzler and KJ split 1b while Tex does some bench work and DH duties.

    Flores should start in RF but that leaves the team with very little pop (especially if Tex is sitting) so they could start Almonte and have Flores as the 4th OF.

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