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Beltran injury puts emphasis on every other Yankees outfielder

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 17, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Carlos Beltran

It’s now been a full week since Carlos Beltran last played for the Yankees. He could be back in another week or so — that’s being pretty optimistic — or it could be two months or more before he’s healthy enough to rejoin the lineup. Beltran had terrific the first three weeks of the season, brutal for the next three weeks, and now he’s shut down with an elbow bone spur that could eventually need surgery. Because of some National League games, and because Ichiro Suzuki’s been hurt as well, we have yet to get a perfect sense of how exactly the Yankees might adapt to the Beltran injury. All five outfielders on the roster could be taking on a more important role going forward.

Jacoby Ellsbury ; Brett GardnerBrett Gardner
From the bottom third of the order to the very top of the order. Without Beltran, the Yankees have so far changed their lineup so that Gardner — with his .290 average and .355 on-base percentage — is the new leadoff hitter instead of…

Jacoby Ellsbury
No longer batting leadoff, Ellsbury has so far moved into the pivotal No. 3 spot. That made a lot of sense earlier in the year when Ellsbury was red hot, but his slugging percentage is down to .412 these days. The Yankees could really use some increased power production from someone, maybe from…

Alfonso Soriano
In right field or at designated hitter, Soriano’s primarily value is in his bat; specifically his home run power. Beltran’s power bat is gone, which means a greater need for production from Mark Teixeira, Brian McCann and Soriano. For now, Soriano’s gotten the bulk of the time in right field. But going forward, that role might go to…

Ichiro Suzuki
He’s been out with a back injury, but Ichiro is the most natural right field replacement given his experience and his resurgent production so far this season. He’s hit .364/.397/.436, which an everyday level of production. Beltran’s injury opens a door for more regular at-bats for Ichiro. It might also open platoon chances for…

Zoilo Almonte
He hasn’t jumped into the lineup yet, and it’s hard to imagine him getting much time against lefties, but Almonte was hitting .323/.363/.583 against right-handers in Triple-A. That’s in 96 at-bats. It’s worth noting that he had 76 at-bats against big league right-handers last season and hit .250/.296/.342. Even so, Almonte’s minor league production — this year and in the past — suggest he might be a valuable power source in a platoon role.

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111 Responses to “Beltran injury puts emphasis on every other Yankees outfielder”

  1. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Not very good balance with those five.

    One true power hitter, 3 LH, 1 RH and a S/H who is much better from LH side.

    Could use a Michael Cuddyer type who could play RF/1B.. even 3B in an emergency.

    Big start today for David Phelps

  2. Yankee Trader May 17th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Jmills

    You should be proud of these Canadian born MLB players

    Fergie would be your Ace
    Votto at first
    Morneau DH
    Larry Walker, George Selkirk and Jeff Heath in the OF

    Who’s your other infielders and catcher?

  3. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Russell Martin would be the catcher I would think

  4. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Brett Lawrie is the only infielder I can think of, but maybe you can play Jason Bay @ 3B?

  5. exiledintampa May 17th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Dave Righetti wore #19 same as Tanaka. It used to be the Yankees saved numbers ending in 9 for pitchers they thought would stick. Tidrow #19, Catfish #29, Ron Davis was #39, and Gator was #49.

  6. Madrugador May 17th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    I don’t like Ellsbury in the number 3 spot.

  7. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Speaking of numbers am I the only one who thinks that the Yanks have retired WAY too many numbers and should un-retire a bunch of them?

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock May 17th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Exiled – Good morning :) Rags had 20 GW potential but George needed a splashy Goose
    Replacement.

  9. jmills May 17th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    On this mobile, I can’t tell when new threads appear, I was stuck insisting the ’76 Monteal Canadiens were better than the Red Army while sticking it to Philly.

    YT, let’s put John Hiller and Terry Puhl on the team. I guess we have to put Brett Lawrie in ( can play second or third ) and hope he doesn’t destroy a camera bay. There’s a new Jay analyst in the Jay radio booth, I think his name is Joe Sibnel or something. Anyways, he’s Canadian and an ex catcher, so go for him rather than Russell Martin who showed no interest ( Canadain hockey players wouldn’t get away with such behavior ). I’m lost for anybody else, but we have to go with steroid Gagne!

  10. jmills May 17th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I forgot all about, Jason Bay. Bebard goes in the rotation along with…

  11. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    I remember when the Yanks moved Righetti to the bullpen. Thought they should have left him a starter and moved Guidry with his FB/Slider combo to the pen since he was much older.

  12. jmills May 17th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    To think the Yanks almost traded Guidry to the Jays for, Bill Singer. In fact, from what I heard, it was Peter Bavasi and Toronto who declined. Thank goddess for, Pat Gillick!

  13. Madrugador May 17th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    86-
    Curious-whose numbers would you unretire?
    (I agree there are too many retired numbers.)

  14. bigdan22 May 17th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    The OF without Beltran is not a difficult situation. I wrote about this a couple days ago. The key is to get Almonte ABs against right-handers and not to DH Soriano. Soriano should play RF against righties with Zoilo as the DH. Ichiro can replace Sori late innings. Against lefties Sori can play RF or LF if you want to rest Gardner or Ellsbury. Ichiro can play RF or DH.

    The bigger problems are moving Jeter and McCann to the bottom of the order and Solarte up. That’s going to take some courage. Jeter needs days off too.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock May 17th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Zoilo Almonte
    He hasn’t jumped into the lineup yet, and it’s hard to imagine him getting much time against lefties, but Almonte was hitting .323/.363/.583 against right-handers in Triple-A. That’s in 96 at-bats. It’s worth noting that he had 76 at-bats against big league right-handers last season and hit .250/.296/.342. Even so, Almonte’s minor league production — this year and in the past — suggest he might be a valuable power source in a platoon role.
    ///

    Almonte needs regular playing time to fulfill what he potentially can bring. He’s not going to get that, here; even with Beltran down, there is too much monied flotsam in his way. Therefore, I don’t think he’s going to thrive in a limited role.

    He has undeniable LH power, but he kinda has to play for us to take advantage of it. He also has power from the right side, but it’s doubtful he’ll get many chances there, despite the pinch hit spot.

    Although hit would be great to have his power and his valuable situational skills, I have all but given up on Girardi really giving him a shot, with Beltran the starter and Ichiro in the wings.

  16. jmills May 17th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Back in the seventies, Quebec was known for its hardball playing ways. There was this french Canadian kid who moved onto my street. The guy was scary to receive in the backyard. I actually threw my arm out trying to compete in return, and couldn’t rest my elbow on a school desk for two years.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock May 17th, 2014 at 10:25 am

    OK have a good day, folks :D

  18. Tar May 17th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Good morning everybody and see you later J Alfred

    Soriano’s splits this year
    .202 .238 .319 .557 VS RHP
    .333 .352 .588 .940 Vs LHP

    He should take AB’s from Soriano even as a DH. But Girardi has that must “play a veteran” disease so I doubt he gets much playing time.

  19. 86w183 May 17th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I would un-retire # 1, # 9 and # 44 for openers.

    Billy Martin won two pennants and one World Series. He only managed four seasons start to finish.

    Roger Maris was only a Yankees for seven seasons. Three great ones, two good ones and two lousy ones. Craig Nettles (#9) had a superior Yankees career.

    Reggie Jackson was a Yankee for five of his 21 seasons. His average season was .281, 29, 92. Excellent numbers but hardly epic…. and he’s a jerk.

    I would go after some others, too but that’s a start.

  20. Mottsx May 17th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Zoilo should be in the lineup against rhp playing RF til Beltran is back. Solarte should bat third and ellsbury needs to lead off.

  21. yankee21 May 17th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Reference this post;

    Zoilo should get the start against all RHP, and a LH PH if he is not starting.
    Ellsbury should lead off, Gardner should bat 2nd against RHP.
    Ichiro can give Ellsbury an occasional day off but should start against LHP in RF.

    Soriano everyday DH against LHP, occasional starts in the OF against LHP if Ichiro is spelling either Ellsbury or Gardner.

    Jeter has no business batting second against RHP, he is embarassing himself and hurting the team. Those are the occasions Joe G could give him a day off.

  22. yankeefeminista May 17th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Good morning! Yes, Almonte’s bat at this point plays much better as a LH platoon (esp. for conservative Yanks). While his lefty MiLB splits are .294/.354/.497 (.851) since 2011, his RH splits are .257/.315/.390 (.705). I too have noticed that vs. LHP in an outlier, he has actually put up a .323/.363/.583 (.946) slash line this year. And it is in over 100 plate appearances. So, hopefully, he has found something finally while batting RH, but I haven’t seen the AB to comment. I’d love to see Zoilo at least get a shot LH though on the big club, and have been hoping for this possibility since 2012. He really squares the ball well when he is going good. His OF D was sometimes problematic in Trenton; he was overly aggressive and would let balls get by him, but he generally has played much more controlled D since 2014 ST. Also he is better in LF than RF, but he can’t be any worse than Beltran has been. We shall see. Slade had a nice second game; he is supposedly going to have to “manage” that knee, going forward, so we’ll see if he can stay healthy. Mason is getting a rest; maybe his bat gets back to LD hitting and bad luck turning good, although last few outings before his “break,” he has looked gassed. Lots of feeble GO and rolling over.

    Manny B. is pitching for Trenton on Monday if Trenton at Portland doesn’t get rained out today. No more piggybacking with Bryan Mitchell who gets his own game on Tuesday. Hopefully, they each get a few more innings, although we know they are saving bullets on Manny to hopefully get him some big club time at some point. Also JRam hasn’t pitched since the 13th, so I expect if all is well that he gets in today.

  23. Madrugador May 17th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Good start on the numbers 86. Martin must have had something on George in order to get his number retired.

  24. Frozen Rope II May 17th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    After the Scherzer Lester duel last night, any chance the Yankees can jack one or both of them if they hit the market?

  25. Hankflorida May 17th, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Although hit would be great to have his power and his valuable situational skills, I have all but given up on Girardi really giving him a shot, with Beltran the starter and Ichiro in the wings.

    Alfred, Ed Barrow would turn over in his grave with an outfield of Ellsbury, Gardner and Ichiro. This trio would probably reach half the home runs that Ruth did in one season. If Almonte can switch hit and even approach Swisher’s numbers, he should play regularly and let Ichiro sub for the other two banjo hitters; if Almonte can give us those RBI numbers that outfielders are known for, he should be there even when Beltran comes back as Yankee Stadium is not Citifield.

  26. bigdan22 May 17th, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....ne-103585/

    ——

    A note here from RAB on how Hal plans to spend to improve the team by the deadline. I told people weeks ago and well before the season began that although Hal was done spending in Dec but for Tanaka or his substitute, finance guys like Hal keep money set aside in reserve. In Hal’s case it was for a mid-season correction. And sure enough, that’s exactly what he has done.

    The problem is, there’s nothing to spend it on now. The Yanks’ single dominant need is starting pitching and that marked\k won’t open up for at least a month. By then, the Yanks will likely have CC and Pineda back. They most likely still will have a need but the trick is getting through the next month. I just don’t think they are even a .500 team now with the present rotation. They clearly are a victim of bad luck regarding their starters but that bad luck was compounded by their poor bullpen construction, a misstep that may ultimately sink this season.

    I see that finally Axisa, and I’m sure many others, are coming around to what I pronounced long before the season started–that the infield was not the real problem for this team. Hey, I never expected it to be the strength it’s become offensively. That’s the result of the complete surprise of Solarte and the amazing resurgence of Tex. No, the real reason the infield was never the problem was Jeter. Because the problem never was the infield, the problem was always Jeter and replacing him was never an option.

    I read a note a few days ago (Cafardo) that the Yanks may reconsider Drew after the draft. The unattributed source said the Yanks aren’t sure that Jeter can last the entire season. Where did that come from? Jeter not finishing the season? I think this a source outside the Yanks just speculating. But as I’ve said repeatedly, Drew only becomes an option for the Yanks if they need to replace Jeter. My guess is Jeter stumbles and bumbles his way through the rest of the season. If they can just drop him in the order and give him a few off days his impact on the season will be almost irrelevant.

    It’s all about pitching now. Some things never change.

  27. JimK May 17th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    86W183, agree completely, why Martin’s number is retired in beyond me, and I also agree on #9, especially since Nettles was as much a key to the Y’s 70′s success as Maris was to their 60′s success. But in either case I do not believe their overall career numbers, both with the Y’s or any other organization merits their numbers being retired.
    I would also add 44, 49 and 23 to the list of unretired numbers; although all were good players in their prime, it is highly unlikely that most of the players represented by these numbers will be remembered as anything more than footnotes in future baseball history.
    The fact that the Y’s continues to retire more numbers than any other organization diminishes the accomplishments of those players whose career statistics with the Y’s were worthy of having their numbers retired.
    The bottom line is that the retired number craze, although it predates Steinbrenner, it was Steinbrenner who is largely responsible for the proliferation of retired numbers.

  28. JimK May 17th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    My criteria for the honor of retiring a players number:
    1) Did he have HOF credentials;
    2) Did he contribute to more than one championship season(a little hard these days, with the playoff format);
    3) Did he spend the majority of his career with the Y’s;

    I understand Munson’s #15 being retired since he was still an active Yankee, when he died; I also understand Elston Howard, since he was the 1st African American to play for the Y’s. However, other than these limited exceptions I stand behind my listed criteria, and I am on the fence about retiring a manager’s number.

  29. Tar May 17th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    “Zoilo should get the start against all RHP, and a LH PH if he is not starting.
    Ellsbury should lead off, Gardner should bat 2nd against RHP.
    Ichiro can give Ellsbury an occasional day off but should start against LHP in RF.

    Soriano everyday DH against LHP, occasional starts in the OF against LHP if Ichiro is spelling either Ellsbury or Gardner.

    Jeter has no business batting second against RHP, he is embarassing himself and hurting the team. Those are the occasions Joe G could give him a day off.”

    Yankee21

    I agree with all of the above, except for the Jeter stuff.

    Jeter can never “embarrass himself” in my eyes. And I don’t get the animosity (not saying you feel like that) towards him for batting second. It is not his fault. All Joe has to do is fill out the lineup card differently and that would be that. Nobody is going to go to a coach and say “bat me lower”. I would not even want Jeter to do that. Joe needs to have the guts to do whats right…. it’s on Joe and not Jete.

    I still think vs LHP he should bat second, vs RHP he should bat lower third and get his days off. I don’t advocate a platoon situation for Jeter.

  30. Hankflorida May 17th, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    It’s all about pitching now. Some things never change.

    Bigdan, Murder’s Row and Cano got to the playoffs with mediocre starting pitching, and this one dimensional team of waiting for the three run blast did score over 850 runs where Cashman’s modern day version of a balanced team may not reach 700 runs. Cashman made his bed based on starting pitching as his expensive power hitting team did not get him the ring. Now, he is faced with a pitching staff that if not altered even with CC and Pineda returning will probably give up more runs then the offense can score. Something must be done and if by June 15 the Yankees are in the same sinking boat, there has to be some changes made and that means Betances and Warren starting because if the blueprint for success was based on pitching, then you have to gamble that you have these two pieces to improve the pitching because the pieces are definitely not there for the offense.

  31. JimK May 17th, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    On another subject, I agree that Ellsbury should remain in the leadoff spot; IMO, he is today’s equivalent of Lou Brock or Maury Wills. And although Rickey Henderson was perhaps the greatest leadoff hitter in recent memory, I believe he could have made the transition from batting leadoff to batting third much easier than Ellsbury.

  32. bbb51 May 17th, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    Maris is because of 61, it was a “monumental” achievement.

    23 should remain retired.

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