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Pregame notes: Setback for Kelley

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 21, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Shawn Kelley

Forget about those plans to get Shawn Kelley off the disabled list by the end of this road trip.

After playing catch on Monday, Kelley woke up with a stiff back again on Tuesday. He was sent for additional tests which again revealed no structural problem — still no disc issue according to the latest MRI — but clearly there’s something going on.

“He’s just having some muscular issues back there, it seems to be,” Girardi said.

The plan was for Kelley to play catch on Monday and Tuesday, throw a bullpen on Thursday and get in a rehab game on Saturday. It seemed entirely possible if not likely that he would be activated during the upcoming series in St. Louis.

“So the catch is on hold, the side will be on hold for a little, and obviously the rehab game that we were planning is on hold,” Girardi said. “Just have to wait and see. He’s going to continue to rehab back home.”

Replacing Kelley isn’t the issue for the Yankees. Adam Warren and Dellin Betances have pitched extremely well and basically fill Kelley’s late-inning setup role. The problem is bullpen depth. Just last night the trio of Preston Claiborne, Matt Thornton and Matt Daley failed to keep the game from getting out of hand, and long man Alfredo Aceves has been uninspiring ever since that scoreless season debut.

Also, if the Yankees were to need yet another starting pitcher, Warren would seem to be the best candidate — despite the time it would take to get him stretched out — but taking him out of the bullpen would hurt a lot more if Kelley weren’t in place.

Jacoby Ellsbury• The Yankees are obviously sticking with Jacoby Ellsbury as he goes through his recent slump. Ellsbury has one hit in his past seven games (six starts), and since May 4 he’s hitting just .102/.228/.143. He had been arguably the Yankees best hitter in the first month of the season, and now he’s in a pretty significant slump. “Sometimes he’s early, sometimes he’s late,” Girardi said. “It’s a timing issue for me. It’s something everyone goes through. Obviously he’s important for our offense and we need him to come out of it.”

• Any concern that Ellsbury’s wrist is still bothering him. “If it is, he’s not letting us know,” Girardi said. “All I can tell you is he said that he’s fine.”

Michael Pineda threw a 30-pitch bullpen today, but Girardi said he’s not sure when Pineda will start a rehab assignment. “I don’t know exactly when the date is going to be,” Girardi said. “It seems like again we have a lot of guys that we’re trying to find out here.”

• Really seems like defense has been an unexpected problem for Mark Teixeira this season, but Girardi claims he hasn’t noticed. “He’s had an error just like anyone else has, but I haven’t really,” Girardi said. “I think he’s still very good over there. I’m very comfortable when he’s around the bag in what he does.”

• Playing Brian McCann in a day game after a night game might have had something to do with keeping him with Chase Whitley — McCann caught Whitley’s strong debut — but Girardi said it has more to do with the recent schedule and the upcoming starters. “The other thing is we’re going to see some lefties this weekend at some point,” Girardi said. “We were off Friday, we were off Monday.” Seems safe to assume John Ryan Murphy could get some playing time against those lefties.

• Before the game, Whitley sat in the middle of the clubhouse laughing with Adam Warren, David Phelps and Preston Claiborne. Seemed relaxed heading into his second big league start. “Just give us six good innings,” Girardi said. “I think that’s what you look for. Obviously if we don’t quite get that much, I’m OK with that too. We’ve talked about, this guy has been a reliever most of his career. He did a great job against the Mets, and just continue to do what you do.”

• Girardi said he doesn’t expect Whitley to throw 100 pitches, and Girardi will start really watching him closely around 75 or 80.

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45 Responses to “Pregame notes: Setback for Kelley”

  1. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    Scherzer gettin killed

  2. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Depth-wise this kinda sucks, but he doesn’t belong in the role in which Girardi has utilized him so if it gives Ramirez, Burawa, Pinder, etc, a shot and also increases Warren’s value, great.

  3. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    I still agree with whoever suggested signing Morales and sending Beltran for surgery asap. Morales would probably be a one year/$6-9 million signing? You plug him right in the 3 spot and have:

    Gardner/Ells
    Solarte
    Morales
    Tex

    And everyone else.

  4. AAA May 21st, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Just noticed the Cubs have a positive run differential.

  5. Jerkface May 21st, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    It took Kelley dying & phelps being moved to the rotation to get Betances into a better bullpen ‘slot’ so as far as Im concerned kelley can stay disabled until Betances secures his spot (or moves to the rotation )

  6. Madrugador May 21st, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Joe-let him throw, let Whitley throw.

    When is Joe going to let these kids throw 100 pitches?

  7. AAA May 21st, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    It took Kelley dying & phelps being moved to the rotation to get Betances into a better bullpen ‘slot’ so as far as Im concerned kelley can stay disabled until Betances secures his spot

    ================================

    Agree. He’s been getting some high leverage spots of late and should keep getting them. He’s earned that trust.

  8. bruceb May 21st, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    Another day, another bad news injury update. The only way this team was going to be a threat was if Beltran, Ellsbury and McCann lived up to expectations and the SP remained healthy. Don’t know exactly how much Cashman is to blame but this is two years in a row we’ve taken a tumble straight out of the starting gate.

  9. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    @PeteAbe: Good point by @Buster_ESPN today, as Stephen Drew returns to the #RedSox, it’s also an audition for the 2015 #Yankees.

    Lol

  10. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    I think it’s time to consider not shifting as much…..they don’t know what they are doing seems like. Trying to wing it on shifting isn’t a replacement for having a bad infield

  11. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Y’all see where Miguel Olivo but off part of a teammates ear during a fight?

  12. AAA May 21st, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Y’all see where Miguel Olivo but off part of a teammates ear during a fight?

    ===================================

    Yeah. It was the Cuban 2B they signed who is out some ear. Looked like it started on the mound during a pitching change and carried into the dugout.

  13. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    Yeah. It was the Cuban 2B they signed who is out some ear. Looked like it started on the mound during a pitching change and carried into the dugout.”

    Id say Miguel’s career is effectively over

  14. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:29 pm
    @PeteAbe: Good point by @Buster_ESPN today, as Stephen Drew returns to the #RedSox, it’s also an audition for the 2015 #Yankees.

    Lol

    ————-

    If they actually sign him this coming off season I might quit.

  15. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    ‘Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice’

    ……I already hate this movie so much.

  16. mick May 21st, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Ya see this is Proactive Joe as we call him.
    Watch the veins in is neck pop as each injury goes down.

  17. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    ‘Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice’

    ……I already hate this movie so much.”

    is that the name of it? They could have just named it. Ben Affleck plays Batman….don’t watch.

  18. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Yep. That’s the official title. Even the first Batman picture looks weird.. the symbol, not cool. The bulk, not cool. Ben Affleck, not cool.

  19. Hankflorida May 21st, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Get used to it as we are fated to follow the Wildcard race; as of now, the Angels are the first. Wildcard and the Yankees are battling with the Blue Jays for the second one. I know it’s early, but Tanaka in Anaheim for one game to go on is better then losing interest in August before football begins.

  20. bigdan22 May 21st, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Well I guess this ends any chance of Warren getting out of the bullpen for the next month or so. Probably the season.

    Bullpen depth is the biggest concern now. As I pointed out last night, the Yanks need to win just about all their winnable games. Where they score three or more runs. They’ve lost five games in the last two weeks scoring more than three runs. Some of that’s on the starting pitching but it’s also on the bullpen as well. The bullpen is needed to make the make-shift rotation work. The Yanks now need two more dependable relievers in addition to Betances and Warren. Like by tomorrow.

  21. bbb51 May 21st, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Might be ok if we get to see Superman kick Batman’s ass.

  22. blake May 21st, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    with the short ears on the cape I will be expecting Affleck to say “Pow” , “whack” , “slam” when he hits somebody……

  23. mick May 21st, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    That’s it Jack Curry “Keep your eye on Ellsbury, he’s the one they need.”
    Thanks for that profundity.
    We need him in the leadoff spot no matter what blake sez.

  24. mick May 21st, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Ben Affleck, not cool.
    =========
    Shame Spencer, cool.

  25. blake May 21st, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    “Might be ok if we get to see Superman kick Batman’s ass.”

    if it’s based on The Dark Knight Returns as rumored then it could be the other way around…..even though the idea of that is pretty ridiculous given that Superman could just heat vision batman in half from 100 yards away any time he wanted.

  26. blake May 21st, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Kelly looks like Phil Hughes in that pic…..

  27. bigdan22 May 21st, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    “Any concern that Ellsbury’s wrist is still bothering him. “If it is, he’s not letting us know,” Girardi said. “All I can tell you is he said that he’s fine.””

    ——

    That’s like the Yanks approach to injuries. Just a little above “don’t ask, don’t tell.” Keep playing the regulars until they just can’t walk anymore. Forget about the fact that neither Ellsbury or Beltran when he was playing have hit a line drive in the month of May.

  28. mick May 21st, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Due to injuries Betances is now the 7th and 8th inning man.
    Way to be proactive Joe!

  29. blake May 21st, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    “We need him in the leadoff spot no matter what blake sez.”

    then you have to move Gardner or Jeter to the bottom…..again this is Girardi’s compromised on the current situation. The flip side to the Ellsbury argument is that Gardner is kinda doing really well in the leadoff spot. He’s got on .OBP of .376……even in 2011 Ellsbury only got on base that exact number and has never really gotten close to it since.

    You can’t move Gardner to the bottom and they don’t want to move Jeter now either……so it is what it is……if Ellsbury would start hitting it would be ok.

  30. blake May 21st, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    maybe they should hit Gardner 3rd since he has 3x as many homers as Jacoby!

  31. bigdan22 May 21st, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Kind of weird Soriano not starting in Chicago.

  32. GregD May 21st, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    if Ellsbury would start hitting it would be ok.

    ——————
    that is the problem, not where he’s hitting…..

  33. Against All Odds May 21st, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:56 pm
    Yep. That’s the official title. Even the first Batman picture looks weird.. the symbol, not cool. The bulk, not cool.

    ———————–

    Because they’re going with the Dark Knight Returns look which calls for an older bulky Batman.

  34. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Shame Spencer, cool.

    ——————

    I do not disagree with compliments. Deserved or not.

  35. SweetSpot May 21st, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    All players slump.

  36. bbb51 May 21st, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Gardner hitting 3rd would be weird.

  37. Against All Odds May 21st, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 1:56 pm
    Yep. That’s the official title

    —————-

    I wonder if setting this movie up as a lead into the JL movie will bite them in the ass. Dawn of Justice basically tells you the JL characters will appear throughout the film. It kinda takes away from it being Man of Steel sequel.

  38. mick May 21st, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    that is the problem, not where he’s hitting…..
    ==================
    i respectfully disagree.
    it is now becoming THE Problem.
    The pressure of being The Run Producer is not why he was brought here.
    He was put 3rd out of necessity, in Joe’s mind, and now is being asked to carry the club.
    The whole thing is ludicrous.

  39. mick May 21st, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    then you have to move Gardner or Jeter to the bottom….
    ================
    You certainly do not.

  40. Shame Spencer May 21st, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    I heard they’re going with the whole ‘haggard Batman returns to show Superman the ropes’ or something. Honestly, it just looks like a mess of a movie. The Superman movie they did wasn’t all that great. It was like 2.5 hours of predictability. Some good acting from certain people, sure, but I dunno that Warner Brothers can really step to Marvel.

  41. blake May 21st, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    “I wonder if setting this movie up as a lead into the JL movie will bite them in the ass. Dawn of Justice basically tells you the JL characters will appear throughout the film. It kinda takes away from it being Man of Steel sequel.”

    I think it depends on just how well it’s made…..DC just doesn’t get these things right as often as Marvel does…..

    I’m wondering what the deal is because you wouldn’t have an older batman at the start of the Justice league……so I’m wondering if they have scrapped the ideal of doing a version of the Dark Knight Returns and are just making this an origin story for the Justice League type thing……..if so that means more Affleck as Batman and that’s no good.

    Marvel had 3 pretty well established and successful characters already developed in solo films before they tried the Avengers……Iron man was obviously great and Thor and Captain America were pretty good as well……all DC has right now is Superman……it’s a Different batman and the Green Lantern was so bad that they can’t possibly use that movie.

  42. mick May 21st, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Joe will not move Jeter. Team be damned. Bottom line.

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