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Jeter: “I’ve appreciated every single one that I’ve gone to”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 28, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter

With the All-Star Game still seven weeks away, Derek Jeter was stunned to learn yesterday that anyone had bothered to count the vote totals so far.

“All-Star Games are always great, but this is so far out,” Jeter said. “I remember one time — I don’t even remember what year it was,’99 when it was in Boston? — I was leading ’til like a couple of hours left in the voting and then Nomar (Garciaparra) got me.”

Jeter was right. It was in 1999 that Garciaparra made a late charge to overtake Jeter. But in Jeter’s final season before retirement, there isn’t another shortstop who nearly matches his overall popularity. Jeter is currently the leading vote getter among American League shortstops, and he has the third-most votes of any American League player at any position. Only Mike Trout and Jose Bautista have more. White Sox shortstop Alexi Ramirez has the second-most votes of any shortstop, trailing Jeter by almost 130,000.

“I always tell you guys, All-Star Games are great,” Jeter said. “It’s a fun experience. You never know when you’re going to get a chance to go, but it’s something that I think every player would look forward to.”

This would be Jeter’s 14th All-Star Game, and his ninth time being voted as the starter. Ramirez is outplaying him so far this season, but I honestly have no problem with the All-Star starters being little more than a popularity contest. If the All-Star Game is a celebration of greatness, then I don’t think anyone should be too upset if Jeter is invited. He’s not the best shortstop in the American League, but I don’t think there are many players the baseball world would rather see this season.

“I would love to see it,” manager Joe Girardi said. “I think he’s played extremely well. I know Ramirez has played extremely well in Chicago, too. I understand he’s third overall in votes and I think that’s a great thing. He’s meant a ton to this game.”

Would it mean more to Jeter if he were elected in his final season?

“Honestly, I haven’t thought about it,” he said. “I was not even aware that it comes out this soon. But I’ve appreciated every single one that I’ve gone to.”

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178 Responses to “Jeter: “I’ve appreciated every single one that I’ve gone to””

  1. bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Re-post:

    “Pirela is really hitting at Scranton (.301 BA, .337 OBP, .416 SLG) Only 8 walks to go with 25 strikeouts and I have no idea how he’s doing defensively, but why not give him a look?”

    —–

    I’ve always felt he could hit but his reputation defensively is pretty poor. Others on this site have actually seen him play. Don’t know if he’s improved since getting to Scranton.

    Not sure he’s much of an option with Sizemore and Anna already on the 40. I would imagine Sizemore would be tried first to replace Roberts but I’m not sure that’s an upgrade at all. The more logical move is Roller since I think Tex is going to need regular time off and Roller has power. And I have to believe he can play 1b better than Johnson don’t ya think?

  2. blake May 28th, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    “I just don’t think that the Yankees have the chips to deal for Headley. Not if there are other teams interested in him.”

    how much can they want at this point? I mean he’s hitting. 211 with a .650 OPS. For a 3 month rental I can’t see how they could ask for the moon…..

  3. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Solarte hitting .270 .320 .416 .736 for May. Ready to see another adjustment from him. 7 for his last 50. He overcame his first big slump, but is the pixie dust wearing off?

  4. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Re-post:

    “Pirela is really hitting at Scranton (.301 BA, .337 OBP, .416 SLG) Only 8 walks to go with 25 strikeouts and I have no idea how he’s doing defensively, but why not give him a look?”

    —–

    I’ve always felt he could hit but his reputation defensively is pretty poor. Others on this site have actually seen him play. Don’t know if he’s improved since getting to Scranton.

    Not sure he’s much of an option with Sizemore and Anna already on the 40. I would imagine Sizemore would be tried first to replace Roberts but I’m not sure that’s an upgrade at all. The more logical move is Roller since I think Tex is going to need regular time off and Roller has power. And I have to believe he can play 1b better than Johnson don’t ya think?
    ——————-

    Again, I haven’t seen Pirela play outside of spring training – but I would think that if he’s able to defend then given how he’s hit he would be looked at as a more long-term option at 2b than a Sizemore or Anna would be.

    As for Roller – I’m a fan. With Beltran on the shelf and the Yankees in need of power I would absolutely give him a look.

    You’re right about the 40 man roster issues though – to do this the Yankees would actually need to clear three spots (with Cervelli coming off the 60 day DL soon)

    They could:

    1. DFA Austin Romine – Once Cervelli is back Romine winds up as the AAA back up catcher. Even if Cervelli got hurt again and Murphy or McCann got hurt the Yankees could get by with someone like Arcia as the BUC for a few days or pick up an available veteran.

    2. CC to the 60 day DL

    3. DFA Aceves – Pineda will be back soon at which point either Whitley or Nuno (hopefully Nuno) will be bumped from the rotation. He can be the long man instead of Aceves.

  5. bruceb May 28th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    If Tex is going to be missing quite often a competent first baseman with some pop is needed.

    They had one last season in Reynolds but decided not to pursue him in the winter. He’s never going to hit for average but we could use him right now.

  6. J. Alfred Prufrock May 28th, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    I remember when Mario Lemieux, after returning from hodgkins disease, kept searching in vain and expressing frustration over that vanished first step that allowed him that explosive acceleration past defenders. When he first came back, reportedly hours from his final radiation treatment, he put on a superhuman charge to catch Pat Lafontaine from behind and blow past his 12-point advantage and win the 1992-93 scoring race, we all chirped that even c*ncer could not touch or mar Lemieux.

    But there was after all a great cost; the treatments, the exhaustion, the time away from the game took their toll. The greatest stick-handler, arguably, who ever lived could routinely turn his head and seamlessly pull a puck in behind him, from backhand to forehand without breaking stride or slowing down – and in the same instant, just propel himself past a defender. Yet there was now a moment of instability, or a half-second of visible helplessness – just enough to disrupt what had always been as smooth and as inevitable as nature – that allowed the defender just enough time to make an adjustment and square to the puck carrier , just enough to prevent him from disappearing in a whoosh of blazing speed, power and deadly skill.

    This was very hard to watch, like watching in horro as a great racehorse suddenly pulls up lame as he hits the ground after achieving his fullest, most regal extension in mid-air. But I never recall growing impatient or angry at Lemieux, who kept searching and searching for what was never to return.

    I never grew angry, I grew sad. In truth, I was symbiotically linked to the sadness, to the frustration: it was a kind of rite, even, that belonged to me as a fan as much as the feeling of being on the resounding winning side of such a special career belonged to me.

    Lemieux had earned that from me as a fan – that I would get to be there to feel all of that: the triumphs the struggles and finally, the bittersweet sadness that comes with that knock upon the door and Father Time on the other side of it. Without both sides, my fandom would have been empty. Lemieux earned that we fans would sigh along with him, that what might be condemnation or abrupt dismissal for a lesser player who faltered, for a player who had not been, essentially, The Franchise, for so long, would really be the ache of knowing that his extraordinary time in the game was coming to an end, and what a time it was, and weren’t we blessed to have witnessed it and to have been a part of it.

    Sports isn’t war, and losing isn’t death, but the war metaphor nonetheless gets used to illustrate certain sports moments. You know in Private Ryan, when the dying Tom Hanks says to the young soldier, “earn this” ?

    Well, Derek Jeter has earned this, and Derek Jeter, who has laughed loud and long at the calendar when given up for dead by his detractors, many times over, is doing his “dying” here in front of us, and I’m just so sad that there are few young Yankees left that Derek Jeter can turn to and say “earn this,” to.

    But guess what: we the fans, have earned the right to be wistful and to get choked up about Derek Jeter, and to pardon him, if we choose to, when he chucks a throw or grounds into another double play. I’ve earned, as a fan, the right to allow myself to say, whether it’s true or just the refusal to give in to Father Time, when he inside outs a ball and sends it into right field, or rips one into the gap – that “Jeter’s back!”

    And I’ll have earned the tears I will no doubt shed, along with a SRO Yankee Stadium crowd, on that last day when he finally says goodbye to the pinstripes. Or at least, so long and fare well.

    He’s earned my saying, no matter how he plays in his final year, that I am dreading that day.

  7. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Solarte hitting .270 .320 .416 .736 for May. Ready to see another adjustment from him. 7 for his last 50. He overcame his first big slump, but is the pixie dust wearing off?
    ——————-

    With Tex and Beltran out of the lineup Solarte’s getting fewer FB to hit. Also he’s gone from being a minor league free agent to the number 5 hitter in the Yankee lineup in 2 months – it’s possible that he’s pressing a bit in his new role and trying to hit for more power rather than just do what got him here.

  8. bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    “Solarte hitting .270 .320 .416 .736 for May. Ready to see another adjustment from him. 7 for his last 50. He overcame his first big slump, but is the pixie dust wearing off?”

    ——

    Maybe, but I know he needs a day off. Even young guys should get days off occasionally. Remember how he came back strong after his last day off.

  9. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    “I just don’t think that the Yankees have the chips to deal for Headley. Not if there are other teams interested in him.”

    how much can they want at this point? I mean he’s hitting. 211 with a .650 OPS. For a 3 month rental I can’t see how they could ask for the moon…..
    ——————

    Well and that’s the other thing – is he really an upgrade?

    I would almost rather see them deal for Ricky Weeks.

  10. bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2014/.....es-104063/

    This is a pretty good analysis from Axisa. This is his summary of the present state of the team: They have an injured riddled rotation, an inconsistent offense, and an overworked bullpen.

    I’d change that to say mediocre offense. I’m not sure it’s really been inconsistent at all. It’s just not good. Axisa then goes on to describe areas of concern putting the bullpen last. I disagree with that somewhat. I think, at present, adding bullpen depth so that the Yanks can win most if not all winnable games with a five and fly rotation and a mediocre offense, is the highest priority. But Axisa is looking at this from the perspective of making moves at the trade deadline and he rightly points out that the bullpen is an area that the Yanks may be able to solve internally with AAA guys. So I get that.

    So going into deadline it’s basically starting pitching and more power/offense. That sounds about right. Of course the starting pitching situation will look different in a month or so. Better or worse is anyone’s guess. In the meantime, they should be looking for internal solutions to add to power/offense.

  11. exiledintampa May 28th, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    JAP, Bravo. So well said. Jeter has brought me soooooo much pleasure over so many seasons. He deserves to go out on these terms and I will shed a tear or more.

  12. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Dan,

    The problem with Axisa’s article is that I don’t think the Yankees have the ability to trade for obvious upgrades for the offense.

    The answer to the offense is that Beltran needs to get healthy and Soriano and McCann need to hit better. Sori is what he is – a RH Curtis Granderson who is going to hit some out in bunches but also strike out a ton and frustrate everyone who watches him. But we knew that going in and may have forgotten it based on how good he was last year.

    I think once Beltran is back and healthy some things will straighten out…Ellsbury is trying to do too much as the number 3 hitter, Solarte’s trying to do too much as the number 5 hitter. Beltran coming back puts them both back to where they should be, Ellsbury in the one spot, Solarte around 6 or 7 and essentially platoon Soriano and Ichiro.

  13. bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    When you think about it, the most disturbing development this year has been the likely loss of CC of ever again being a front end starting pitcher. And perhaps the loss of him being even a serviceable pitcher going forward. The is development I think requires the Yanks to eventually acquire another front end starting pitcher. That alone could add a previously unanticipated $20-25MM to the payroll. That’s the difference of Hal operating at around $210MM, which I think is in his comfort zone, to around $230MM next year.

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock May 28th, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Exiled, TY. He’s given us all so much to remember and to pass on. I know my father and brother felt the same way when Mantle’s time was coming to an end.

  15. bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    “Ellsbury is trying to do too much as the number 3 hitter, Solarte’s trying to do too much as the number 5 hitter. Beltran coming back puts them both back to where they should be, Ellsbury in the one spot, Solarte around 6 or 7 and essentially platoon Soriano and Ichiro.”

    —-

    I think your points about guys pressing is a valid. It could be affecting their performance. I believe and have said a few times that if McCann were moved down to 6 or 7 I think his hitting would improve. Solarte may be pressing now too. And Ellsbury just seems out of place when he’s not leading off.

    The problem here is it seems you are counting on Beltran to be healthy for an extended period of time this year and I don’t think that is anything close to a certainty.

    As far as what chips the Yanks could use in a trade, there may be a few such as Sanchez or Cervelli or even Murphy but it’s probably better to wait till July 1 and see what the organization looks like then and who is actually available. I don’t believe it would be wise to sacrifice much of the future for this year though. Fortunately the Yanks having made many of those types of trades in the recent past.

  16. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Jerkface says:
    May 28, 2014 at 12:35 pm
    Solarte hitting .270 .320 .416 .736 for May. Ready to see another adjustment from him. 7 for his last 50. He overcame his first big slump, but is the pixie dust wearing off?

    I honestly think that slash is probAbaly closer to what he is…..and that’s a big league regular if he plays 2b

    They need to get a 3b and good Solarte can be the answer at 2B.

  17. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Well and that’s the other thing – is he really an upgrade?”

    I think so yes…..Id take a shot on him if the price is right

  18. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    Did anyone see 50 cent throw out the first pitch? Worst I’ve ever seen

  19. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Look up Tulos numbers at home this year…..I know it’s Coors but a .600 OBP …..an almost 1000 slug …..lol

  20. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    I honestly think that slash is probAbaly closer to what he is…..and that’s a big league regular if he plays 2b

    —————–

    Yes.

    Someone said that was the whitest thing 50 Cent has done (aside from dating Chelsea Handler). They should let him drop a puck at one of the hockey playoff games followed by him throwing up the first ball during one of the NBA games. 50 Cent should literally be the starting point of every sporting event.

  21. luis May 28th, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Good afternoon guys,

    Just a quick one since I have very little time…

    JAP,

    Your post brought tears to my eyes..>Thank you for such a beautiful post…It was poetic!..And spot on..It is an honor to share my fandom with you.

  22. luis May 28th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    One more thing…But you should become a writer..Write a book, you have what it takes to succeed in such endevour…You have that rare combination of those that are able to make people feel what you are feeling and imagine themselves right beside you going through the experience together

  23. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Someone said that was the whitest thing 50 Cent has done (aside from dating Chelsea Handler). They should let him drop a puck at one of the hockey playoff games followed by him throwing up the first ball during one of the NBA games. 50 Cent should literally be the starting point of every sporting event.”

    I mean I don’t see how it’s possible to be that bad at throwing a baseball

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock May 28th, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    primo,

    You’re the best and the honor is all mine, luis.

    And I had a great Muse for that; he gets the props ;)

    I hope he rises like a Phoenix once again, but even if he doesn’t, we love ‘im, dont we.

    Have a good one, I’m out too

    UnKnown, I didn’t see previous thread shout out. Thanks

  25. bbb51 May 28th, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Mariah Carey got it closer to the plate. Granted it bounced about 10 times…

  26. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    I mean I can understand people bouncing it up there…..it’s one thing if you don’t have the arm strength to throw it that far……but how can you throw it and it like go 90 degrees sideways.

  27. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    “And I’ll have earned the tears I will no doubt shed, along with a SRO Yankee Stadium crowd, on that last day when he finally says goodbye to the pinstripes. Or at least, so long and fare well.”

    it’s gonna be really sad for me……I’ll feel a lot older when he’s gone.

  28. 86w183 May 28th, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    I’m baa-aaack

    Did you see Carly Rae Jepson? That was atrocious.

    Yanks have a 3B for the future… he’s already signed for 2015-17. Maybe A-Rod and Beltran can share DH duties if they can get Chase Headley?

  29. UnKnown May 28th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    I thought it was funny last night how Buck walked Reynolds with no one on and two out in the 10th to face the PH Gallardo (the pitcher). Then Yovanni smoked a game winning double. Just funny how Buck who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room at all times got burned. :lol:
    ——————–

    Jeter is the Greatest, nuff said.

  30. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Headley would be a gamble but I really think he “could” go off away from Petco…..he had a 115 OPS + last year so even if he didn’t he’d still be an upgrade for them and give another switch hitter.

    I think you sign Morales and go after Headley.

    Gardner LF
    Jeter SS
    Ellsbury CF
    Tex 1B
    Beltran RF
    McCann C
    Morales DH
    Headley 3B
    Solarte 2B

    You could end up with something like this (or however you wanted to stack it) in the 2nd half and you’d have Soriano on the bench to play vs LHP. That’s a pretty strong lineup.

  31. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Did you see Carly Rae Jepson? That was atrocious.

    ——————

    Hahahaha, oh yeah!! Her’s was bad too.. had 50 jumped up and giggled liked she did I think the whole thing would have been even more awesome.

  32. blake May 28th, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    every game should have 50 cent throw out the first pitch after Carl Lewis sings the national anthem.

  33. 86w183 May 28th, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    I agree Headley could really benefit from a change of scenery. Even if it’s just a rental and they sign Morales for a partial season that lineup looks WAY better than what goes out there most nights.

    But I’d put Ellsbury up top, Beltran third and Gardner 8th.

  34. bbb51 May 28th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    Switch hitters are nice, but the problem is if the opposing team throws a lefthanded starter it negates the advantage in YS.

    That’s one of the things they lost with Cano, a lefthanded hitter that wouldn’t get turned around and could hit lefthanded pitchers well.

  35. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    @DanMurphysBaby At what point does David Wright step up and say “remember the promises the Wilpons made me at contract time? Apparently they were FOS”

    I mean… no one actually believed that though right? I hope Wright didn’t.

  36. 86w183 May 28th, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Why is it the USA cannot develop tennis players any more? Other that the Williams sisters it’s been nothing for more than a decade. Why?

  37. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    When they were talking about the Cardinals-Yankees World Series last night (5 of them) I found myself looking into the strange play that ended the first one in 1926. Babe Ruth was thrown out stealing second base. Apparently, the Babe had a little Puig in him, stealing 123 bases and being thrown out 117 times in the regular season and going 4-7 in the World Series. (Puig’s % is actually much better than that.)
    But the most interesting thing, to me anyway, was the cast involved in the play. Grover Cleveland Alexander was the pitcher (in his 3rd inning of relief after winning a CG the previous day) and the man who put the tag on the Bambino was none other than the great Rogers Hornsby in his last game as the Card’s player manager (before moving to the Giants the following season).

  38. UnKnown May 28th, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Obama’s was bad too.

  39. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    “But I’d put Ellsbury up top, Beltran third and Gardner 8th.”

    yea you can stack it however you want……but the names there are pretty good.

  40. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    “Why is it the USA cannot develop tennis players any more? Other that the Williams sisters it’s been nothing for more than a decade. Why?”

    cause nobody plays tennis growing up

  41. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Hornsby was traded by the Cards at age 30 because they wouldn’t give him multi years @ $50K after winning the WS as player-manager.

  42. 86w183 May 28th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Plenty of people play tennis… there are thousands of high school teams and hundreds of collegiate squads.

    Yet we produce no one in these sports who can compete at the highest level. I can’t think of another sport where that’s true.

  43. pkyankfan69 May 28th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Aaron Hernandez might be the dumbest person on the planet… Signed to a $50M contract and he’s out killing people… They should have him share a jail cell with Sandusky. He’s obviously too old for creepy Jerry but it would sure be an uncomfortable roommate to have regardless.

  44. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    bigdan22 May 28th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    “Ellsbury is trying to do too much as the number 3 hitter, Solarte’s trying to do too much as the number 5 hitter. Beltran coming back puts them both back to where they should be, Ellsbury in the one spot, Solarte around 6 or 7 and essentially platoon Soriano and Ichiro.”

    —-

    I think your points about guys pressing is a valid. It could be affecting their performance. I believe and have said a few times that if McCann were moved down to 6 or 7 I think his hitting would improve. Solarte may be pressing now too. And Ellsbury just seems out of place when he’s not leading off.

    The problem here is it seems you are counting on Beltran to be healthy for an extended period of time this year and I don’t think that is anything close to a certainty.

    As far as what chips the Yanks could use in a trade, there may be a few such as Sanchez or Cervelli or even Murphy but it’s probably better to wait till July 1 and see what the organization looks like then and who is actually available. I don’t believe it would be wise to sacrifice much of the future for this year though. Fortunately the Yanks having made many of those types of trades in the recent past.
    —————————————-

    Murphy is really the only viable trade chip the Yankees have at this point if you assume they’re not dealing Betances. Sanchez is struggling in AA and Cervelli hasn’t played much in the last three years.

    My guess is they’ll try to make another Soriano type deal giving up a low level player for a veteran with some money owed him – a guy like Ricky Weeks.

  45. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Ray Rice is from my town… he isn’t much smarter, he signs $50M and then drags his unconscious girlfriend from an elevator in atlantic city. Retards.

  46. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    JAP, thanks for the well written, very moving testament to Derek Jeter. Unfortunately, one of the downsides to “instant” communications is that people are now able to offer their own “in-depth” analysis on today’s “pathetic” contributions from our aging sports icons.
    I am sure there were a number of Y’s fans who may have felt the same about “#7,” but lacked the venue to vent openly.
    On the bright side, when Jeter comes to bat, he still receives the cheers, “#7″ received in his waning Y’s career.

  47. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    “Plenty of people play tennis… there are thousands of high school teams and hundreds of collegiate squads.”

    yea they have teams…..but none of the top male athletes in this country play tennis though…..

  48. 86w183 May 28th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    that’s it for me…. gonna find some tennis players willing to serve and volley!

    have a day

  49. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Blake –

    I say reach out to Arizona and offer them cash/future considerations for Eric Chavez.

    The team is going nowhere – TLR is going to blow the whole thing up soon. Chavez can come in, play some 3b and 1b.

  50. mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    On the bright side, when Jeter comes to bat, he still receives the cheers, “#7? received in his waning Y’s career.
    ====================
    At home, Mantle got a standing O for every AB in his last few years.

  51. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    “I say reach out to Arizona and offer them cash/future considerations for Eric Chavez.

    The team is going nowhere – TLR is going to blow the whole thing up soon. Chavez can come in, play some 3b and 1b.”

    that’s just depressing Chip…..where has your spirit of adventure gone?

  52. mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    I say reach out to Arizona and offer them cash/future considerations for Eric Chavez.
    ===============
    Come June 1 don’t you think they are making a play for Morales?

  53. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    I say reach out to Arizona and offer them cash/future considerations for Eric Chavez.
    ===============
    Come June 1 don’t you think they are making a play for Morales?
    ——————-

    Arizona? No

    Yankees? No

    I think the Yankees want to bring in someone who can play the field, that doesn’t fit with Morales – he would need to DH which they likely want to keep open for Beltran a bit more.

  54. Hankflorida May 28th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    He’s earned my saying, no matter how he plays in his final year, that I am dreading that day.

    Alfred, I felt the same way when DiMaggio retired. As I have said before, it is wonderful to honor a player like Jeter as we did with Mo as he rides off into the sunset still looking like the great athlete that he is and in our minds will always be. “Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?” Joltin Joe brings back the memories of the Springtime of my life and with it, there are days that I feel a little younger and even hit the golf ball a little further.

  55. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    “I say reach out to Arizona and offer them cash/future considerations for Eric Chavez.

    The team is going nowhere – TLR is going to blow the whole thing up soon. Chavez can come in, play some 3b and 1b.”

    that’s just depressing Chip…..where has your spirit of adventure gone?
    ——————-

    Honestly I think I would rather pay pennies for Chavez than have to deal a top guy for Headley.

  56. mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    I think the Yankees want to bring in someone who can play the field, that doesn’t fit with Morales – he would need to DH which they likely want to keep open for Beltran a bit more.
    =============
    What if Beltran doesn’t come back?

  57. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Incidentally – Didi Gregorious is en fuego in AAA – .319, .402., .466 with 236 at bats. Then again it’s Reno – I could hit .275 in Reno.

    Would you do Gary Sanchez for Gregorious?

  58. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    I think the Yankees want to bring in someone who can play the field, that doesn’t fit with Morales – he would need to DH which they likely want to keep open for Beltran a bit more.
    =============
    What if Beltran doesn’t come back?
    —————

    Well that’s a different kettle of fish.

  59. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    “Honestly I think I would rather pay pennies for Chavez than have to deal a top guy for Headley.”

    who is a top guy? I would trade any of the outfield prospects for Headley except maybe Judge.

  60. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    It’s a chicken-and-egg thing, but at this point, tennis only (barely) gets covered during the majors. It used to be that tennis would at least get equal treatment with golf, where you’d hear who won which tournament each week, but no more.

    In a way, tennis has become a foriegn sport as three of the only four tournaments you ever hear of are overseas. More American players at the top would probably help, but even with the Williams sisters around tennis has dropped a long way in America’s sports conciousness.

  61. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    The same statement about tennis can also apply to golf; but the key difference is that Americans were dominant, at least during the modern era of golf, while in tennis, Americans, other than maybe Pete Sampras, never were the predominant players of their respective eras.
    Granted we had more top tier players during the 70′s and 80′s(McEnroe, Connors), the international competition was equally talented (Lendl, Becker, Borg, etc.)
    And if you go back to the immediate period preceding Tennis’ Open Era, the undisputed King, was Australian Rocket Rod Laver.

  62. blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    my dad had to coach girls tennis one time because the regular coach quit at the last minute…..it was hilarious. He didn’t even know how you kept score in tennis…..I went to watch them practice and he had them doing soft toss in the batting cage.

  63. mick May 28th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Doesn’t tennis gain its popularity from its players?
    McEnroe, Connors, Borg then Lendl and others.
    Kind of like boxing…great fighters make great fights.

  64. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    “Honestly I think I would rather pay pennies for Chavez than have to deal a top guy for Headley.”

    who is a top guy? I would trade any of the outfield prospects for Headley except maybe Judge.
    ———————
    Betances.

    I don’t think San Diego is going to want one of our struggling OF prospects. They just cut ties with a long time struggling OF prospect of their own with the Kyle Blanks trade. They’re going to want a young, cost controlled, ML ready player which means either Murphy or Betances and since they have Grandal my guess is they would focus on Betances.

  65. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    As much as I like Eric Chavez I’m not buying that bringing in an old, injury prone, part-time player is much of a solution for the old and injury prone Yankees. It might help, but only maginally and has the possibility of just adding to the problem.

  66. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    Hank, the original story is that DiMaggio hated those lyrics.

  67. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    If Beltran’s out for an extended period and the Yankees want Morales they’ll have to move quickly. If they wait until after the draft I think they lose him to Texas.

  68. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    “I don’t think San Diego is going to want one of our struggling OF prospects.”

    eh….hoenstly I don’t know that they’ll get more than say a package of Mason Williams and Nuno or something like that for him. He’s a rental and he hasn’t played great in a long time……you wouldn’t get a draft pick back either. I guess it just depends on how bad the other contenders need a 3B and how much they’ll pay

  69. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    Blake, I can top that, my Daughter is on a HS Freshman Softball team, and the coach does not know how to keep the scorebook.

  70. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    “If Beltran’s out for an extended period and the Yankees want Morales they’ll have to move quickly. If they wait until after the draft I think they lose him to Texas.”

    yea…..the yanks just stand to lose like the 60thish pick or something like that…..but at the same time they just have to wait what 2 more weeks and that goes away? I do think Texas will be in big time though…..both parks would be good to hit in but they have an opening at 1B and probably could guarantee more playing time.

  71. mick May 28th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    With time it seems DiMag’s legacy has become tarnished.
    Mantle was no saint but his seems to be standing the test of time.
    Jeter’s image is impeccable and he accomplished it without any of the power stats they had.
    He will have his monument soon enough as he is next in line.
    The question is: Who will follow him?

  72. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    As much as I like Eric Chavez I’m not buying that bringing in an old, injury prone, part-time player is much of a solution for the old and injury prone Yankees. It might help, but only maginally and has the possibility of just adding to the problem.
    —————-

    Know who the Yankees could use right now (and I’m dead serious) Alex Rodriguez.

  73. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    “Blake, I can top that, my Daughter is on a HS Freshman Softball team, and the coach does not know how to keep the scorebook.”

    that’s funny…..wonder if he drew the short straw to coach.

  74. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    “Know who the Yankees could use right now (and I’m dead serious) Alex Rodriguez.”

    well in theory…..of course Alex is probably in a hammock somewhere right now sipping a Mojito.

  75. mick May 28th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    that’s funny…..wonder if he drew the short straw to coach.
    ================
    key word being drew?
    or is it headley :)

  76. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    “If Beltran’s out for an extended period and the Yankees want Morales they’ll have to move quickly. If they wait until after the draft I think they lose him to Texas.”

    yea…..the yanks just stand to lose like the 60thish pick or something like that…..but at the same time they just have to wait what 2 more weeks and that goes away? I do think Texas will be in big time though…..both parks would be good to hit in but they have an opening at 1B and probably could guarantee more playing time.
    ——————-

    If you assume that Morales is willing to take the same deal that Drew took (which is reasonable since the same guy represents them both) then you just do it now and suck up the loss of the pick. If you don’t and Boras realizes there are two desperate teams interested he’ll try to get a second or even third year out of it.

  77. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    “Know who the Yankees could use right now (and I’m dead serious) Alex Rodriguez.”

    well in theory…..of course Alex is probably in a hammock somewhere right now sipping a Mojito.
    ——————

    I think I read somewhere that he’s actually been working out pretty hard this year. Dropped a bunch of weight and is in great shape and stuff like that.

    Look, the guy’s a clown and I wouldn’t be devastated if he never suited up for the Yankees again. But the realist in me says he will be on the roster in 2015 and so with that in mind I’m happy to hear he’s using this down year to get himself where he needs to be physically to be a productive player at his age. Whether or not he can actually BE a productive player is another story.

  78. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    “I don’t think San Diego is going to want one of our struggling OF prospects.”

    eh….hoenstly I don’t know that they’ll get more than say a package of Mason Williams and Nuno or something like that for him. He’s a rental and he hasn’t played great in a long time……you wouldn’t get a draft pick back either. I guess it just depends on how bad the other contenders need a 3B and how much they’ll pay
    ————————

    You don’t think the Padres would make Headley a QO?

  79. mick May 28th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Even if Beltran is available, why not go after Morales?
    Tex can go down at any time and so can Beltran.
    If Beltran can hit, he could play the OF.
    Morales could DH against RH and LH and Sori/Ichi would lose DH AB’s.
    Sori is ineffective as a DH and Ichi is more of a 4th OF, which Sori isn’t.
    Seems like a no brainer . Get him now Hal, his price will only go up.

  80. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Alex who?

  81. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    “If you assume that Morales is willing to take the same deal that Drew took (which is reasonable since the same guy represents them both) then you just do it now and suck up the loss of the pick. If you don’t and Boras realizes there are two desperate teams interested he’ll try to get a second or even third year out of it.”

    I would yes.

  82. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    “You don’t think the Padres would make Headley a QO?”

    sure but I’m talking about the teams thinking about trading for him…..if you trade for him you won’t get a pick back at the end of the year as compensation. I just don’t see a huge bidding war for him…..

  83. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Guys who will probably get Qualifying Offers before Free Agency (IMNSHO):
    Chase Headley
    Melky Cabrera
    Asdrubal Cabrera
    Jed Lowrie
    Colby Rasmus
    Pablo Sandoval
    Michael Cuddyer
    Han Ram
    Stephen Drew
    JJ Hardy
    Billy Butler
    AJ Burnett
    Max Scherzer
    James Shields
    Jon Lester

  84. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    “You don’t think the Padres would make Headley a QO?”

    sure but I’m talking about the teams thinking about trading for him…..if you trade for him you won’t get a pick back at the end of the year as compensation. I just don’t see a huge bidding war for him…..
    —————-

    My mistake – I thought you meant that the Padres would accept a lesser prospect since they wouldn’t get a draft pick back if they kept him.

  85. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Boston can’t make Drew a QO because he signed after opening day…..well I guess they could but they won’t get a draft pick

  86. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Blake, he probably did.

  87. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    AJ Burnett signed a 2 deal didn’t he?

  88. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Scherzer might regret not taking that 160 or whatever million Detroit offered him…….Unless he basically repeats his 2013 or close to it I just don’t see teams shelling out 200 million for him. The track record just isn’t there and he’ll be over 30. He’s been an elite pitcher for 1 season……and he’s lost 2 mph on his fastball since 2012.

  89. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Trade that will never EVER happen

    Mets get: Dellin Betances, John Ryan Murphy, Mason Williams and Severino

    Yankees get: Daniel Murphy and David Wright

  90. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    AJ Burnett signed a 2 deal didn’t he?
    ————————

    MLB Trade Rumors lists him as an impending FA

  91. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    They offered him 6/144. He will likely get 7/175m.

  92. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Scherzer might regret not taking that 160 or whatever million Detroit offered him…….Unless he basically repeats his 2013 or close to it I just don’t see teams shelling out 200 million for him. The track record just isn’t there and he’ll be over 30. He’s been an elite pitcher for 1 season……and he’s lost 2 mph on his fastball since 2012.
    ——————–

    Agreed and teams are going to look at what’s happened to CC before giving out big contracts to him, Shields or Lester.

  93. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Mick, during DiMaggio’s and Mantle’s day, the reporters that followed the teams did not print anything negative about the players. The infamous Copa incident was the exception that proved the rule, and, even there, that story was generated by the mainstream journalists.

  94. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    “They offered him 6/144. He will likely get 7/175m.”

    I really think it depends on his season…..he needs to show he’s the guy he was last year again IMO…..because he’s not been that guy in his career…..he’s been a good pitcher….but he hasn’t been anywhere close to that guy in any other season. Heck 2013 is the only year he’s thrown 200 innnings! 30+ year old pitcher who has thrown 200 innings and had a sub 3 era exactly 1 time isn’t getting 175 million…..he needs to do it again and in convincing fashion to get that contract IMO.

  95. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    if I could get Lester for 85-100 then I’d jump on that……he’s not an ace but they have one of those already and I think he will age well.

  96. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Jeong Choi is called the Korean David Wright. He’s hoping to become a free agent and go to MLB next year.

    This year he’s hitting: .260, .331 with 4 HR and 27 RBI through 35 games – he’s 27 – fairly pedestrian numbers but I could see him getting a lot of interest since he wouldn’t require a draft pick and would likely be cheaper than Headley or the Kung Fu Panda

  97. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    I’d rather have Lester than Scherzer going forward even though Max is better right now…..I just don’t see him aging all that well..

  98. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    I think that guy being the ‘korean david wright’ is a bit much hype train wise. Keith Law said he looks more like a utility guy and less like a major league regular.

  99. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Blake -

    Assuming the top 3b on the market next year are:
    Choi – 27 and unknown
    Headley – 31/32 and only one good year
    Panda – 27/28 and declining numbers

    Which 3b are you going after? I honestly don’t know the answer. As I said, Choi could be the right fit simply because he won’t want as much or cost the pick.

  100. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Jerkface –

    You’re probably right about the hype. The guy who called him the Korean David Wright was Jon Heyman: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/w.....lb-in-2015

  101. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Apparently the Nationals plan to use Ryan Zimmerman as their Ben Zobrist – he’ll play every day but have to look at the lineup card to see where.

  102. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Now if the price is right I’ll take any under 30 infielder with a chance to be above average!

  103. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Steve Adams from MLBTR said in a chat yesterday Lester was getting CC money. So Scherzer is going to get Verlander money.

  104. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Sandy Alderson sealed his fate in NY yesterday by saying that the fans have to buy tickets before the Mets will spend any money, but trading Wright and Murphy for Betances, J.R. and Williams would certainly finish him off.

  105. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    “Steve Adams from MLBTR said in a chat yesterday Lester was getting CC money. So Scherzer is going to get Verlander money.”

    I don’t buy it…..either of them.

  106. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Lester getting CC money makes sense production wise, because like him or hate him he has been a consistently good starter for pretty much his entire career. Where that gives me pause is Lester becoming a free agent at 30 when CC became one at 27. I would be pretty wary of dumping a CC contract on him when I’m not getting his Age 28-30 seasons like the Yankees got with CC.

    In fact, you could argue CC was one of the best pitching contracts ever signed by the Yankees until he forced the Yankees to extend him with his opt out. Had they let him opt out and walk it would have been one of the best contracts ever.

  107. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:19 pm
    Scherzer might regret not taking that 160 or whatever million Detroit offered him…….Unless he basically repeats his 2013 or close to it I just don’t see teams shelling out 200 million for him. The track record just isn’t there and he’ll be over 30. He’s been an elite pitcher for 1 season……and he’s lost 2 mph on his fastball since 2012.

    —————–

    All true…..

    But if Scherzer delivers in the playoffs, all bets are off on his value. He takes that team to the WS with an amazing run when it matters, and he’s going to get bank.

  108. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
    Sandy Alderson sealed his fate in NY yesterday by saying that the fans have to buy tickets before the Mets will spend any money, but trading Wright and Murphy for Betances, J.R. and Williams would certainly finish him off.

    ——————–

    I have been trying to trade for David Wright for YEARS.

    NO ONE WILL LET ME HAVE HIM!

  109. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    I think the 3 years difference between Lester and CC and also the TJS outbreak is gonna scare teams from investing a CC like contract in Lester……I think he gets a nice deal though and I kinda hope it’s from the Yankees.

  110. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “But if Scherzer delivers in the playoffs, all bets are off on his value. He takes that team to the WS with an amazing run when it matters, and he’s going to get bank.”

    I mean he’s gonna get 100+ million anyway unless he gets hurt or something…..but whether or not he gets 150+ and pushes higher is greatly gonna depend on this season.

    There isn’t a real great comp for him…..because he’s been a nice pitcher for years…..but he’s really only got 1 season of being a great one……so A LOT is riding on 2014 for him…..it could be 50+ million or even more riding on this season for him.

  111. solaris May 28th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    The Yankees will give a stupid contract to someone. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were Lester.

  112. blake May 28th, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    “Sandy Alderson sealed his fate in NY yesterday by saying that the fans have to buy tickets before the Mets will spend any money, but trading Wright and Murphy for Betances, J.R. and Williams would certainly finish him off.”

    well that’s really up to Wilpon more than Sandy though……I’m sure Sandy would love to spend more money.

  113. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    I dunno if I could handle Lester being a Yankee. He, Lackey, & Buchholz fall under that Youkilis category where I can understand they might be good players but their lack of mound presence & constant whining / huffy puffing is a major turn off.

  114. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Which ridiculous contract demands will the Yankees blow 7 figures on next year, Lester or HanRam?

    …or both?

  115. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    We could probably get Bucholz and his 7 ERA and 2 WHIP pretty cheap…

  116. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Lester is a good pitcher and durable. I would give him 6/132 max.

  117. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    The Mets new hitting coach is apparently a genius!

  118. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    I dunno if I could handle Lester being a Yankee. He, Lackey, & Buchholz fall under that Youkilis category where I can understand they might be good players but their lack of mound presence & constant whining / huffy puffing is a major turn off.
    ——————

    I feel like after Roger there’s no Red Sox player who would be taboo to wind up with the Yankees.

  119. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Which ridiculous contract demands will the Yankees blow 7 figures on next year, Lester or HanRam?

    …or both?
    ———————-

    I think Ramirez is going to want a Cano type deal – 10 years at least.

  120. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    I don’t really feel that way about Lester…..he’s nails in big games too.

  121. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    lester’s last 3 full seasons plus this one works out to about a 3.95 era with a 1.25 whip. Not bad but not killer either.

  122. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    “I think Ramirez is going to want a Cano type deal – 10 years at least.”

    he might want it but he’s not been as good or consistent as Cano……Hanley’s best is really good……but he’s not been that guy a whole lot over the last 5 seasons. He’s not a good defender either. Cano is viewed as a good defender at 2B and hes been one of the most durable and consistent players in baseball over the last 5 years. …..talent wise he’s on par or maybe even more talented that Cano…..but Cano wins big in the other stuff.

  123. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Hanley’s 2013 was the outlier in his recent history…..if he wants to get paid like the player he was last year then like scherzer he needs to show he can do it again.

  124. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    HanRam has averaged 136 games played per full season for his career. and even with last year’s (half) season rolled in, his last 3+ seasons have not been near as good as his first few. Add to that the perception that his defense is deteriorating and add in that he’ll be 31 and there are some serious concerns about any long term deal for him.

  125. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    There’s no ifs about it. The Yankees would be better off if the Alex and CC contracts didn’t contain opt outs.

    If CC had played that out he would be in the second to last year of his contract owed $46 mil this year and next. Instead he’s here until after the 2017 season because the option for 2017 is going to vest and he’s owed essentially another 100 million.

    Alex would have been a FA after the 2010 season which was still a big season for him so at 34 the Yankees may have re-signed him anyway.

    Better would have been to just let both players walk after they opted out – but both guys had tremendous years leading up to their opt outs.

  126. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    lester’s last 3 full seasons plus this one works out to about a 3.95 era with a 1.25 whip. Not bad but not killer either.
    ==============

    He pitches in a stadium that has a 295ft left field wall in the AL East. If he pitched in Atlanta he might have a 1.95 ERA.

  127. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    I think Lester is about a 120 era + pitcher now…..good but no a #1. I could see him aging like Andy though……he’s got a similar assortment of pitches and LHP plays in YS.. I’d like to add him if possible…..and I’d like to take a flyer on Headley at the deadline and see where that leads to.

  128. Cashmoney May 28th, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    “You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) [x3]
    Who’s down with OPP (Every last homie)
    You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) [x3]
    Who’s down with OPP (All the homies)”

  129. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    If the Yankees could sign Ramirez for 7/153 and Lester for 5/125 I would probably do it.

    They still need a SS though, Han Ram should be playing 3b+.

    I think this, again, is where Betances’ future comes into play.

    Do you sign Lester and go into next season with a rotation of:
    Lester, Tanaka, Pineda, Sabathia, Banuelos or do you tell Betances to report to spring training prepared to start and plan on a rotation of Tanaka, Pineda, Sabathia, Betances, Banuelos and accept the fact that if Betances flops as a starter the last two spots in your rotation are Phelps and Banuelos (at least until Nova is back)?

    They could do that – and then they would have the money to ink Ramirez and a SS like Lowrie or Cabrera.

    Or they sign Ramirez with the intention of having him and Alex make up the left side of the infield with Solarte at 2b??

    So many questions

  130. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    I admit I have watched more Y’s games of late, but still not as many as I had in previous years, and the primary reason is, for me at least, the Y’s do not have any young players who I enjoy watching. As much as Hughes disappointed, I watched him fairly regularly, even in his dreadful last year, with the hope that he would eventually develop into a top tier SP.
    Even in the Y’s dog days of the late 60′s my favorite Y’s were Roy White and Bobby Murcer; the Y’s also had some good pitchers such as Stottlemeyer and Peterson, who at least kept them in the games, but even though the 70 Y’s won 90 games there was no doubt the Y’s were not even close to the O’s.
    The current Y’s roster does not have any player who I care about; IMO the Y’s roster resembles that of a pick up team more than a cohesive unit, and the fanfare surrounding Solarte seems more like a return to the 60′s revolving door at 3rd base, where every new player was the next coming of Clete Boyer. At this point in time, Horace Clarke would be an improvement at 2nd base, and every BU 1st BM, has managed to make me actually miss Joe Pepitone.
    Sorry, just reminiscing.

  131. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    All of which becomes moot assuming he wants to stay with the Dodgers.

  132. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    “Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
    There’s no ifs about it. The Yankees would be better off if the Alex and CC contracts didn’t contain opt outs.

    If CC had played that out he would be in the second to last year of his contract owed $46 mil this year and next. Instead he’s here until after the 2017 season because the option for 2017 is going to vest and he’s owed essentially another 100 million.

    Alex would have been a FA after the 2010 season which was still a big season for him so at 34 the Yankees may have re-signed him anyway.

    Better would have been to just let both players
    walk after they opted out – but both guys had tremendous years leading up to their opt outs.”
    ===============================
    I was on here advocating letting both of them leave. A slim majority was probably on my side with Alex, but I was pretty much the lone voice against extending or re-signing CC.

    btw, had they not extended CC, he probably would have opted out and they would have saved everything beyond 2010.

  133. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    and as bad as CC’s contract is looking – it’s nothing compared to Matt Kemp’s….Yikes.

  134. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    YS Guy –

    Hard to argue against them re-signing CC at the time. He was coming off a monster season:

    21 wins in 34 starts, 3.18 ERA, 3rd in Cy Young voting, top 20 in MVP voting.

  135. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Chip says:
    May 28, 2014 at 4:27 pm
    and as bad as CC’s contract is looking – it’s nothing compared to Matt Kemp’s….Yikes.

    He’s out OPSing Ellsbury by over 100 points :(

  136. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Actually kemp would have like the 2nd highest ops on the Yankees after Tex

  137. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Wait – my bad – the year he got his new deal was after the 2011 season also a strong campaign:

    19 wins, 3.00 ERA, 34 starts, 4th in Cy young and top 20 MVP

  138. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Ok 3rd behind tex and Solarte

  139. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    “Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
    YS Guy –

    Hard to argue against them re-signing CC at the time. He was coming off a monster season:

    21 wins in 34 starts, 3.18 ERA, 3rd in Cy Young voting, top 20 in MVP voting.”
    ================================
    true but a baseball contract is a forward-looking thing and the innings on that arm shot up a red flag that alot more people should have seen.

  140. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Chip says:
    May 28, 2014 at 4:27 pm
    and as bad as CC’s contract is looking – it’s nothing compared to Matt Kemp’s….Yikes.

    He’s out OPSing Ellsbury by over 100 points
    ——————-

    Now that I’m looking at the numbers Kemp wouldn’t be an awful get. I for some reason felt he was older (probably because he’s been around so long) and you’re right his numbers aren’t that bad this year he’s just being benched because Crawford, Puig and Ethier are better.

    I would deal the Dodgers Alex for Kemp at the start of next year :-)

  141. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Kemp’s been hitting alright, but his defense was shockingly bad in the Mets series. He was a ‘healthy scratch’ the past 4 days and the Dodgers were hinting about moving him to LF and then last night, Crawford twisted his ankle. Don’t expect to see Kemp play much if any CF moving forward.

  142. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    “Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
    YS Guy –

    Hard to argue against them re-signing CC at the time. He was coming off a monster season:

    21 wins in 34 starts, 3.18 ERA, 3rd in Cy Young voting, top 20 in MVP voting.”
    ================================
    true but a baseball contract is a forward-looking thing and the innings on that arm shot up a red flag that alot more people should have seen.
    ——————-

    Probably.

  143. chicken_stanley May 28th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    whats up Cash?

  144. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    If LA woukd eat a lot of money Id take a flyer on kemp…..he’s on pace for about 40 doubles. I haven’t seen him play enough to know if he’s being limited more by the injuries or rust……plus the Yankees have a ton of money tied up in outfielders already….they have to focus on the infield.

    Id trade Ellsbury for Kemp and Pederson ????

  145. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    Those ??? Were supposed to be devil horns emoticon

  146. Cashmoney May 28th, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    not much, just came back from a long memorial weekend by the shore. how are you, Chicken?

  147. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Kemp’s been hitting alright, but his defense was shockingly bad in the Mets series. He was a ‘healthy scratch’ the past 4 days and the Dodgers were hinting about moving him to LF and then last night, Crawford twisted his ankle. Don’t expect to see Kemp play much if any CF moving forward.
    ————————

    Put Kemp in RF as a Yankee.

    Ok, I’m on this now: Soriano and Cervelli for Kemp.

    The Dodgers get out from the remaining 5 years and $100 million owed Kemp (money they can use for keeping Ramirez beyond this year) and they upgrade slightly from Drew Buetera with AJ Ellis hurt.

  148. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    I would not move ellsbury for Kemp. There is still something severely wrong with his legs. He had zero range last week when they said he was healthy. Balls dropped in behind him quite a bit. If that’s what he’s got ‘healthy’ then I wouldn’t touch him because what I saw was definite DH material.

  149. chicken_stanley May 28th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Hanging out in Canada this week… I had to laugh when I saw you break out some Naughty by Nature. Why? I don’t know, but made me smile nonetheless :)

  150. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    It is possible that Kemp’s legs really aren’t ‘right’ and may never be again and the Dodgers are just running him out there in hopes of moving at least a nice chunk of his salary.

    Red Flag City!

  151. Giuseppe Franco May 28th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    “The team did little more this offseason than re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.”

    —–

    I didn’t have time to elaborate this morning on my Titanic metaphor but YF’s take echoes my sentiment exactly (and explained it more eloquently than I could have) regarding the construction of this team during the offseason.

    yankeefeminista May 28th, 2014 at 10:28 am
    The problem with blaming the injury bug RE: position players is that that “bug” is not an outlier but the norm for a team that relies on old/worn down/damaged/frail players. Is it no wonder that Teix is hurt again and Beltran, the player who we all love but who is old and signed for 3 years, has a chronic problem, which he will have to play through? And knowing Teix’s chronic frailty, how do you not get a real back up 1B? The Yanks have not only relied on aging players for the past five years, they have relied on aging and out of position back up players… And yes, the players gut it out and our grinders but that still doesn’t compensate for players who are in their primes giving us in prime output.

    —–

    That’s essentially why I don’t buy the injury bug excuse. From the get-go, this team was constructed in a manner that gave them so very little room for error if and when things inevitably went south.

    It’s hard to be a championship caliber team when you have so many variables against you on Opening Day.

  152. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Chicken, I thought you started your new job this week; and I thought it was hilarious that you thought I was making fun of you.

  153. kd May 28th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    would love to see hanley in pinstripes. but he’s a 3b moving forward. let him bulk up a bit and see if he can hit 50 doubles

    i’d honestly pass on lester, he never seems to be in shape, was a chicken and beer culprit and seems like maybe the best is behind him

  154. Cashmoney May 28th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    all the trade or FA talk just remind me of that song Chicken, other people’s P, well, “it’s not that simple” :D

    Hope you had a good one Chicken, you travel more than any souls that i know.

  155. Cashmoney May 28th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Naughty by Yankees. except they been probably more stupid than naughty of late.

  156. kd May 28th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    ellsbury for kemp would be a great deal for the yankees

    maybe they’ll take arod and tex too for that 2b they signed

  157. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    It is possible that Kemp’s legs really aren’t ‘right’ and may never be again and the Dodgers are just running him out there in hopes of moving at least a nice chunk of his salary.

    Red Flag City!
    ——————-

    Very true

  158. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Todays lineup is something else

  159. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    It is possible that Kemp’s legs really aren’t ‘right’ and may never be again and the Dodgers are just running him out there in hopes of moving at least a nice chunk of his salary.”

    Is it a red flag that said player would be the 3rd best hitter on the Yankees right now?

  160. chicken_stanley May 28th, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Hi JimK! I start next week. On the making fun thing… I meant it in a joking way… then got myself really confused because you and jmv were both posting… I never realized how similar jimk and jmv looked at a glance. :) … First time you’ve seen me look foolish?? Hang in there, it normally happens several times a week :D

  161. Jerkface May 28th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    I remember when they said there was absolutely no plans for McCann to play 1st so he didn’t work there at all in spring and now he is starting at 1st on May 28th. I get the idea that you signed him to catch and all but you had to see this as a possibility right?

  162. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Red Flag City on Hanram, too. He stole 51 bags each of his first 2 seasons, last year, at age 29, he stole 10. This year his defense is in decline. Both of these speak poorly about his physical condition (whether due to injury or just not getting into condition.)

  163. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    @JackCurryYES Both Jeter and Teixeira are out of the lineup. McCann, who has played 3 games at first base this year, gets first career start there.

  164. chicken_stanley May 28th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Cash – my traveling days are behind me… As of Monday, I’ll be posting from somewhere in south Carolina

  165. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    @eboland11: Tonight’s lineup: Gardner 7 Roberts 4 Ellsbury 8 McCann 3 Murphy 2 Ichiro 9 Ryan 6 Johnson 5 Kuroda 1. Yes, that is McCann at 1B

    I hope this is one of those things where irony strikes and they score 10 runs but this is ugly

  166. Ys Guy May 28th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    no, the red flag is that Kemp’s knees are shot and he’s probably a DH at best, until they become bad enough that they affect his hitting.

  167. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    LOL @ Roberts 2nd.

  168. blake May 28th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Sign morales

  169. Mottsx May 28th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    This PoS lineup and Zorro on the bench. I seriously despise Girardi… like I hope something bad happens to him.

  170. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Chicken, I knew your comment was a joke, I just thought maybe the Chicken needs new glasses, and for some reason Leghorn Foghorn came to mind.

    Also a simple question: You get to spend much time with Rob Ford during your Canadian trip?

  171. Shame Spencer May 28th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    :arrow:

  172. Chip May 28th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Giuseppe Franco May 28th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    That’s essentially why I don’t buy the injury bug excuse. From the get-go, this team was constructed in a manner that gave them so very little room for error if and when things inevitably went south.

    It’s hard to be a championship caliber team when you have so many variables against you on Opening Day.
    ———————————

    The problem with that most of the major injury risk players were already on this team heading into the offseason: Tex, Jeter, Sabathia, Pineda. They guys who they brought in with injury flags, Ellsbury and Roberts – haven’t really been the problem.

    What’s more, with the exception of the hamstring earlier and taking a couple of games for the wrist, Tex and Jeter haven’t been the problems with their health either.

    The injured players are:
    Beltran
    CC
    Nova
    Pineda

    Other players have been ineffective sure – but they’re healthy and playing.

    Where the Yankees dug their own grave was by having their 6, 7 and 8 starters all break camp in the bullpen.

    As for why you don’t get a real BU1b – it’s because if you’re going to have a 4 man bench and one of those guys is your BUC then you can’t have another guy who can only play 1b. You need the three other guys to be able to play multiple positions which was the idea when they signed Kelly Johnson in the first place. The problem isn’t that Johnson isn’t a true 1b, the problem is that Johnson just isn’t playing very well at any position right now.

    Again though, there’s only so much of this you can control – players want to play and the guys who are willing to accept bench roles, like Eric Chavez or like Kevin Youkilis are willing to do so for the simple reason that they know they aren’t top flight players any more because of injury or ineffectiveness or both.

  173. Cashmoney May 28th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    good to hear chicken, time to take it easy.

  174. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Chicken, as far as looking foolish, there are times I have gotten it down to an art.

  175. chicken_stanley May 28th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Jimk – not a lot of time with Ford… he begged off due to my unpredictable behavior :)

  176. JimK May 28th, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    I can’t even come up with an answer to your Ford response; just to say “perfect response.” I’m, still laughing.

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