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Impact and longevity: How quickly can Lindgren move up?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 07, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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With 30 rounds to go, baseball’s amateur draft will wrap up today. These late-round picks are not insignificant. Last night’s Yankees starter, Chase Whitley, was a 15th-round pick. Tonight’s starter, David Phelps, was a 14th rounder. There will be some eyes focused today on the Trenton rehab outing of Shawn Kelley, who was taken in the 13th round. Even Yankees closer Dave Robertson didn’t go until the 17th round.

That said, each draft class seems to be largely defined — at least initially — by its top pick. It’s the early measuring stick. For this year’s Yankees draft class, that means left-handed reliever Jacob Lindgren, who right now is most defined by a question of immediacy: how soon he can get to the big leagues?

“He’s obviously advanced,” amateur scouting director Damon Oppenheimer said. “He’s obviously gotten out really good hitters. There’s some history with guys (getting to the big leagues quickly as college relievers), but there’s also some history with guys getting to the big leagues as relievers too quick and it doesn’t last. We’d like to get impact and longevity from him, not just something that’s real quick.”

When his selection was announced on MLB Network, the TV analysts immediately suggested the Lindgren could be the first player from the entire 2014 draft to reach the big leagues. Lindgren said he didn’t hear it because the celebration around him was too loud.

“I think that’s pretty cool that people think that,” he said. “But making it to the big leagues is not easy. It’s going to take hard work. I have to keep developing my game and getting better one day at a time. If the Yankees, if they think it’s my time to go up, I’m ready for it.”

Jacob LindgrenCollege relievers seem especially poised to move quickly as long as they produce and doors open. Robertson was in the big leagues after just one full season in the minors. Other relievers have moved more quickly, their college careers having set a strong foundation for the big leagues.

“Absolutely (it helps prepare you),” Robertson said. “I felt like in college I didn’t know as much as I know now as far as holding runners, making pitches, what to do in certain situations with the ball. But it definitely helped me being able to pitch in short spurts; being able to pitch the next days coming. It probably is the fastest way to the big leagues, I would say, is being a reliever. It can also be the fastest way down when you come up and down, up and down (from Triple-A). But it’s definitely one of the fastest ways to get to the big leagues because, if you throw strikes and you get guys out, there’s usually always a need for bullpen help.”

Although they obviously pitched at different times, both Robertson and Lindgren pitched late-inning situations for major SEC teams.

“Great league,” Robertson said. “SEC is a tough conference. There are some tough games there. Those are some battles.”

Granted, in the big picture, pitching the eighth or ninth inning in college seems like nothing compared the eighth or ninth inning in the big leagues. But Robertson said the college experience is still a legitimate testing ground, a chance to get used to key situations with adrenaline pumping and very little room for error.

“At the time, (pitching in college) is the most important thing you’re doing,” Robertson said. “As the levels go up, it becomes more and more and more important to be able to pitch in those situations. You learn how to pitch at a new level, not just a new level on the field, but a new level mentally and physically.”

So how quickly can Lindgren get to the big leagues? It’s not unheard of for a highly touted college reliever to get to the majors in the year he was drafted, but I think of former Red Sox reliever Craig Hansen, who was a first-round pick in 2005, got to the big leagues in 2005 and had an ugly major-league career. I also think of former Yankees second-round pick J.B. Cox — terrific closer at the University of Texas, went 63rd overall — who had injury problems, stumbled in the upper levels and never got to the big leagues.

Lindgren could move quickly. In theory, he’s the kind of pick that’s poised to do that. But it’s really hard to know right now what exactly he’s going to do in the next few months and years.

“I think that’s unfair to put those expectations on a kid,” Joe Girardi said. “You want to get the kid in the organization, see how he’s throwing, how he’s doing, and not put too much pressure on him in that first year. I think you also have to look at how many appearances he had in college, how many innings. You don’t want to abuse the kid.”

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135 Responses to “Impact and longevity: How quickly can Lindgren move up?”

  1. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Repost:
    I was reviewing the past posts, and Pete22 correctly stated the Y’s current 5 SP average 6 IP per start, and I checked the records for the current 5 SP and “statistically, they “average” 6 IP per start.
    However, a deeper look into the numbers shows why the “average” is misleading; the Whitley, Phelps, Nuno combination average 5.4 IP per start and in their combined 20 starts, they have a total of 5 QS, and a total of 8 games where they pitched 6 or more innings.
    Additionally, of the 3 aforementioned pitchers Phelps , is the only starter who has given them at least 5 IP in each start, while Nuno, in his 8 starts has lasted less than 5 IP in 4 of his 8 starts.
    Of the 3, Phelps has probably been the most consistent in providing QS; his last start was an aberration, in that Girardi let him start the 7th inning and left him too long, otherwise he would have had an additional QS, and he would have had an ERA south of 4, instead of his current 4.11.
    Whitley, has been, by far their best pitcher relative to allowing earned runs, and he now has 3 consecutive starts of 5 IP or more, and hopefully last night’s performance will carry over to his next start( I know it was the run challenged Royals, and it is highly unlikely that he will go 7 innings and throw less than 90 pitches).

    Note: I should add that the overall numbers for 2 of the 3 replacement starters would not be bad, if the Y’s had any offense at all.

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock June 7th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    JB Cox had a Sharp curve ball and was Street’s worthy successor at Texas. Felt bad how it ended for him. He and Melancon at one point looked like a great future BP tandem.

  3. Yankee Trader June 7th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

    Congratulations to 86 and his family on his daughter’s wedding today.

    Have to go.

  4. J. Alfred Prufrock June 7th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Whitley is still a
    Starter convert so what he can give us now vs later in terms of length has to be qualifiSS and last
    Night was real progress. His sliider coming along is big for him since he already had the really good Changeup. I’m also looking forward to see how he fares against a better lineup but I think he’s just going to be good for the Yankees.

  5. J. Alfred Prufrock June 7th, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Craig Hansen – the best setup man in baseball :)

  6. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Who is more at fault for Hansen’s failure… The Red Sawx or Peter Gammons???

  7. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    JAP, Whitley shows promise; and although last night was the 1st time he went more than 5 IP, the Y’s are 4-1 in his starts.
    Moreover, he has allowed 3 runs in only one start, and again that was because Girardi brought him in to pitch the 6th against St. Louis and left him in too long; the BP gave up 2 inherited runs, but in the BP’s defense, I believe it was a bases loaded no out situation, or runners at 1st and 2nd, at the least.

  8. Missing Cano June 7th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    read Daley’s words and influence in prior thread guy might have a future as a coach

  9. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    From MLB.com regarding day three of the draft today

    Even after 10 rounds of selections, there are still 53 players from the Top 200 list who remain available. The group is highlighted by a trio of high school pitchers who are viewed as having strong college commitments. J.B. Bukauskas (No. 38) informed teams last month he intended to attend North Carolina, while Keith Weisenberg (No. 65) and Mac Marshall (No. 66) have been firm in their commitments to Stanford and LSU.

    The rest of the remaining players ranked on the Top 100 are:

    • No. 73 Bryce Montes de Oca, a right-hander from Lawrence (Kan.) High School
    • No. 77 Cobi Johnson, a right-hander from J.W. Mitchell High School in Florida
    • No. 89 Keaton McKinney, a right-hander from Ankeny Centennial High School in Iowa
    • No. 90 Jeren Kendall, an outfielder from Holmen (Wis.) High School
    • No. 97 J.J. Schwarz, a catcher from Palm Beach Gardens High School in Florida
    • No. 98 Evan Skoug, a catcher from Libertyville (Ill.) High School

    Would be nice to see the Yanks take a chance on one of those guys.

  10. pkyankfan69 June 7th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    2019 Yankees

    CF – Ellsbury
    2B – Refsnyder
    LF – Harper
    3B – Machado
    DH – Sanchez
    1B – Hosmer
    DH – Sanchez
    RF – Judge
    C – Murphy
    SS – Avelino

    Tanaka – Darvish – Banuelos – Severino – Clarkin

    Closer – Dealin

  11. Mottsx June 7th, 2014 at 9:42 am

    I wouldn’t bother with high shool picks. They’re not going to take $50k to not go to college.

  12. blake June 7th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Pkyanks,

    I like you man….this is a vision

  13. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Congrats 86! Enjoy the moment.

    A few comments (taken mostly from scouts and coaches I know who work the southern colleges):

    - NYY are gonna love Lindgren… he’s mentally very tough and has a short memory. Reminds some of Guidry. Could be a SP, but he’ll get to the show this year.

    -DeCarr – Huge upside. They see him in MLB in three years max.

    - Montgomery is a Pettitte clone. Big, strong, grinder with a really good idea of what he wants to do on the mound. Advanced.

    - Foley – Big strong Texan. Love his makeup. Upside is a 2-3.

    - Holder – RP is his spot. See him as a setup/closer; could be in the show in late 2014.

    - Payton – Think Gardner, only smoother.

    I’ll see if I can’t post some more later.

  14. exiledintampa June 7th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    5 games over 500 on the road, 3 games under 500 at home. Not constructed to play at YS3. Road warriors is what we are.

  15. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    I’m not sure Payton has Gardner’s speed, but he is an advanced player. Getting on base 100 straight games would be remarkable in kid ball.

  16. blake June 7th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Thanks Wanzies

  17. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    mac -

    I haven’t seen Payton play; I’m just giving you what the baseball guys say about him. It’d be nice if he has that kind of career.

  18. G. Love June 7th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Pruf,

    Please don’t forget that Manny Delcarmen was once the greatest reliever in the AL while Mo was still pitching!

    Oh Peter…

  19. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 10:31 am

    Exiled, I checked the SP records and of the current SP, Kuroda has given up 10 HR’s, 8 at YS; Nuno, has allowed 8 HR’s, all at YS, and Tanaka has also allowed 8 HR’s, 5 at YS. Nuno’s record and he has given up 8 HR’s this year; all at YS. Phelps, is the outlier here in that he has only allowed one HR as a SP and that was on the road, but he has only 2 of his 7 starts @ YS.
    The bottom line is you are right, this team is not built for YS.

  20. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    edited version of previous post:
    Exiled, I checked the SP records and of the current SP, Kuroda has given up 10 HR’s, 8 at YS; Nuno, has allowed 8 HR’s, all at YS, and Tanaka has also allowed 8 HR’s, 5 at YS. Phelps, is the outlier here in that he has only allowed one HR as a SP and that was on the road, but he has only 2 of his 7 starts @ YS.
    The bottom line is you are right, this team is not built for YS.

  21. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Wanzies,

    I’ve seen Payton a few times. Old school, dirty uniform type with a great eye.

  22. bigdan22 June 7th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    So let’s talk prospects and 2b.

    Refsynder is killing it now. And starting to get noticed by the Prospect Industry. He’s having one of the best years in recent memory for a Yankee prospect, especially a middle infielder. He’s 23 now in the Eastern League and as Pete22 pointed out, that’s not exactly young for that league for a real prospect. It’s not old, but it’s not exactly young. Now it’s important to note that Refs isn’t a flash in the pan. He had a excellent offensive season last year and comes from a big college program so that does explain his age.

    But let’s talk about another second baseman in the Yanks organization who hit in AA as well. It was a couple years ago and he was a year younger than Refs. His name is Jose Pirela. At 22 in Trenton in 2012, in 358 PAs, he hit .293 with a .356 OBP and an .803 OPS. That’s not Refs numbers but that’s not bad. And if you look at his whole minor league career you’ll see a middle infielder who hits consistently well, doesn’t strike out much and can take a walk. Remind you of anyone?

    Pirela is 24 now and playing 2b in Scranton. He’s had a super hot couple of weeks and is now hitting .340/.377/.459. I’ve seen Pirela’s ABs for a couple years now in ST and I’m convinced he can hit. (By contrast, I’ve seen McCann’s ABs for two months straight now and I’m not sure he can–at least for average). The rep on Pirela has been that he’s just a terrible fielder. I was reading some comments on RAB last night about him from some folks who seem to know a lot about him. He’s been in the Yanks’ system so long he’s been pretty much forgotten as a prospect even though he’s a couple years younger than Solarte. These guys were saying he’s 2b who was forced to play SS back in the day because of Adams and Corban Joseph. He was awful as a SS but is now back to playing the position he is right for. YT and JAP feel free to chime in because I know you’ve seen him play.

    So here’s my question for this morning. Why is Refsynder everyone’s darling now (including mine) and a player a year older, playing in a level higher, toiling in obscurity? I’m not sure I know the answer, but if Pirela stays on this hot streak for about another month or so, he should be in NY.

  23. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    mac -

    Thanks. Sounds like one of those guys that will wear a uniform somewhere til he’s 70….lol.

  24. bbb51 June 7th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    “I think that’s unfair to put those expectations on a kid,” Joe Girardi said. “You want to get the kid in the organization, see how he’s throwing, how he’s doing, and not put too much pressure on him in that first year. I think you also have to look at how many appearances he had in college, how many innings. You don’t want to abuse the kid.”

    Kiss of death. Probably won’t see him this year. :p

  25. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    wanzies222 —

    I’ve seen Montgomery a few times. You’re a little higher on him than I am. I’d love for him to be anything closer to Pettitte. I see more Dennis Rasmussen in him. He will benefit from pitching to wooden bats because of his ability to work inside to LH & Rh hitters.

    If Holder reaches MLB in 2014 I’ll buy you a new car….aint no way that’s happening.

    Payton is very much like Gardner and Dugas I agree. Not sure the organization needed a third one of that type. Foley has the best chance of being a “steal”.

  26. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Pirela (OPS .856) and Refsnyder (OPS .925) should both move up with Roberts moving out.

  27. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Des anyone really think the Yankees are gong to let Roberts go???

  28. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    86 -

    Again, I’m just sharing what I hear… the thing about Montgomery that one of the guys I talk to, likes about him, is “it”. Just his take, but he likes “it” about him.

    Same with Holder, though I agree, something bad might have to happen for him to get to NYS. Talent-wise, he’s capable though.

  29. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Doreen—-

    Do I think so, no.

    Do I hope so, absolutely.

    Pirela and Kelly Johnson would produce much more at 2B and there’s very little risk.

  30. Madrugador June 7th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    At only $2M a year, Roberts could go but the only way for that to realistically happen with this FO would be a season ending injury.

  31. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    Doreen,

    I’m not sure Roberts has the staying power for a whole season from a physical standpoint. There seems to be something about him that’s not quite right, though. Whether he’s tired, or he’s lost his edge… can’t put my finger on it, but he’s not sharp.

    That said, he may be playing himself off the roster. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is reminded of Womack/Cano.

  32. exiledintampa June 7th, 2014 at 11:01 am

    JimK I think the real problem is the Yankees are being out homered at home. No steady power from the left side in the lineup. Teams come into YS3 and load their lineup with guys who can find the short porch. Why don’t we have that kind of lineup? I dunno. I expect our pitchers to give up some bombs at home.

  33. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    At only $2M a year, Roberts could go but the only way for that to realistically happen with this FO would be a season ending injury.

    **************************************************************************

    “Paging Tonya Harding to the white courtesy phone, Tonya Harding”

  34. ac1 June 7th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Wow… We thought the yankees messed up joba.
    Anyone see Daniel Bard’s line for single a last night?
    3 HBP and 1 walk.

  35. blake June 7th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Get refsynder on up to SWB and see what he does there

  36. blake June 7th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    That said, he may be playing himself off the roster. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is reminded of Womack/Cano.”

    I’m reminded of Womack…..is Reysnyder the camo in this equation? Big shoes…..

  37. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 11:07 am

    Congratulations 86. My daughter is 21, much too young for such things :D

    Last night was the 25th b-day of skydome. Jimmy Key and Ernie Whitt reunited, with Cito Gaston looking on. Heard a nice interview with Key who remarked upon a vast difference in the # of games kids play today compared to his time. He feels this causes a higher arm injury rate in still developing bodies.

  38. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    blake -

    Agreed; I was thinking more of the transition than the results…

  39. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Let me see. We have a second baseman who is hitting under .240 with below average defense. We have second basemen in AA and AAA who are hitting over .330. We are struggling offensively.But, we all know Roberts were be here until his body crumples.

    As I believe Dan may have suggested, give the kids a chance, particularly when the old guys are not producing.

  40. Madrugador June 7th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    ” He feels this causes a higher arm injury rate in still developing bodies.”

    So with Whitley playing mostly third base in college, he should avoid some of these injuries?

  41. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Mills,

    I have a daughter turning 21 in August. She has a boyfriend of two years. Great daughter and nice boy. In a couple years I suspect I will be contacting 86 for advice.

    Right now she is in Argentina for a semester. Can I have her life?

  42. blake June 7th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    wanzies222 says:
    June 7, 2014 at 11:16 am
    blake -

    Agreed; I was thinking more of the transition than the results…”

    Yes….doesn’t have to be cano to merely be better

  43. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Magruder,

    I had a son who played select ball from 12 years old and played through college. Happily, he wasn’t primarily a pitcher. Kids throw far too much. Baseball around here is a 10-11 month game. I believe that is the root cause of many arm problems. Too many innings, too young.

  44. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    austin, your daughter can catch up with the ghost of, Julio Cortazar. Mine gets out to run the world a good deal as well.

  45. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    It’s not unheard of for a highly touted college reliever to get to the majors in the year he was drafted, but I think of former Red Sox reliever Craig Hansen, who was a first-round pick in 2005, got to the big leagues in 2005 and had an ugly major-league career.
    ===========================
    Hansen was a great HS pitcher converted to closer at St John’s.
    There’s usually a reason that happens.
    This guy can start a new trend esp when you are bullpen-centric like we are.
    I expect to see him up at least by Sept.

  46. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    wanzies -

    That’s true. He’s had a concussion history, and perhaps his lack of sharpness is a manifestation of that. And age, to some extent.

    I guess just going on recent history the Yankees will be reluctant to pull a veteran like Roberts off the roster. It will take a lot. Maybe a couple of more brain cramps like last night that actually cost a game? I don’t know.

    I feel bad for Roberts. But I also feel bad for the young players who are blocked by veterans simply by virtue of the mere fact of veteran status, and the slim hope that they have one more back of the baseball card season left in them (or two, or three, as the case or contract may be).

    I suppose there is hope that the Yankees could be more proactive in this regard this season, given the mediocrity of the play on the field, and the fact that it is affecting game outcomes and forcing pitchers to work longer and harder.

  47. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Mac-
    At least your AC works. ;)

  48. 86w183 June 7th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    gotta go get me a son in law…. seeya tomorrow

    have a wedding day!

  49. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    My daughter’s majors at UT are government and Spanish. All I can figure is she will run a small Latin American country some day.

  50. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    blake,

    But when they called Cano up, he was not a sure thing yet, and he was not defensively complete. Remember all the work he did with Larry Bowa when he first arrived? So, maybe not such big shoes to fill if you compare just-called-up Cano to Refsnyder now.

  51. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Mick,

    I sure hope that a/c doesn’t accidentally stop working again in SA. What a shame for Lebron. Heartbreaking.

  52. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:27 am

    austinmac,

    Smart girl, your daughter.

  53. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:29 am

    I sure hope that a/c doesn’t accidentally stop working again in SA. What a shame for Lebron. Heartbreaking.
    ==============
    Yeah sure Mac..

  54. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:29 am

    Doreen,

    I don’t feel bad for Roberts. He has had a fine career. He is still a decent player, but it would be nice to see if youth could help now and in the future.

  55. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Maybe the reason for fill-in Roberts was Refsnyder.
    Ever think of that , anyone?

  56. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    The more Houdini throws his harried 9ths, the more I think of Betances closing next year.

  57. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:31 am

    austinmac -

    He hasn’t had the career he was meant to have, I don’t think, because of the concussions. So I do feel bad for that. Not so bad I want to see him fail over the possibility of giving someone else a chance.

    The object of the game is to win, right?

  58. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Since they seem to have a couple of guys who are worth giving the opportunity to, that is.

  59. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Doreen,

    My daughter is my third child. So easy to raise, doing all the right things. Just to brag, her school suggested she apply for a Rhodes Scholarship. My college suggested I apply for a job. ;)

  60. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Does anyone else think we can make the playoffs with Phelps and Whitley at 4 & 5?
    Assuming Pineda comes back.

  61. Doreen June 7th, 2014 at 11:33 am

    austinmac -

    Brag away! She’s definitely brag-worthy!!!

  62. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 11:35 am

    It seems that Johnson might be the first to go, actually.

  63. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Exiled, The fact that the Y’s are being out homered at home(-17) is part of the reason the Y’s pitchers have the one of the leagues lowest Run Support when they play at home; conversely when the Y’s are on the road, their pitchers Run Support is near the top of the league.

  64. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 11:41 am

    Mick, it does not matter who the Y’s 4-5 pitchers are, if the Y’s continue to struggle to score runs. And thus far, Whitley and Phelps have pitched OK, they just need to add a little more distance in their starts.

  65. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    mick -

    Clearly Roberts and Johnson were/are seen as stop-gaps. So it is just matter of time.

  66. bbb51 June 7th, 2014 at 11:42 am

    OPS home road

    Roberts .508 .758

    Johnson .753 .605

    There is your solution. I’m a genius! ;)

  67. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Mac, would Governor of Texas count as the leader of a Latin American country? Or CA, perhaps.

  68. Madrugador June 7th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Austinmac-
    “My daughter’s majors at UT are government and Spanish. All I can figure is she will run a small Latin American country some day.”

    My son is at GW and majoring in International Affairs and Computer Science. Thinking of the Middle East. I’d at least like to keep him in this hemisphere.

  69. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:45 am

    I really don’t get the struggle JimK.
    Ellsbury could hit 20.
    Tex and Beltran have to be at least 25 ea.
    McCann will get 20.
    Soriano when he gets hot will get his.

  70. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Jim,

    Give it twenty years and probably so. Spanish is a great tool around here. All I can remember is the introductory conversation in my high school Spanish book. Hola Pepe. Que tal?

    I have been waiting for years to work that into a conversation.

  71. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:48 am

    wanzies-

    that is clear. it seems to me they are poised to bring up some youth.
    it will take time yet fans complain of not developing them.
    it’s that impatience that yankee fans are known for.

  72. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Hola Pepe. Que tal?

    I have been waiting for years to work that into a conversation.
    =====================
    I thought i heard you say our new reliever Pepe LaPew stunk the other day?

  73. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    My oldest son and two step-kids were international affairs majors. Good degree in this shrinking world. Add computer science, and I think you have future employment.

  74. mick June 7th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Mark Teixeira ? @teixeiramark25

    Great to see Chase Whitley earn his first ML win. Maybe he will agree to be my next guest on #FoulTerritory?
    =========================
    Will Tex run for office someday?

  75. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    We’re lucky to have healthy kids. Mine has grown into a young adult with a wonderful demeanor ( much more accommodating than myself ).

  76. wanzies222 June 7th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    mick -

    Just a guess on my part, but I would think they would bring these guys up at the first of:

    1) Clear indication of Teixeira/Beltran continued issues;
    2) Injury to Roberts or Johnson
    3) The next eastern road trip, which is July 3.

  77. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Mills,

    I doubt more accommodating than you. My primary witness is Mr. Chicken. And yes, great gratitude for health of my kids.

  78. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Baseball will not be fun in a lot of cities this year…some teams out of it already

  79. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    fast forward NYY are a 83-85 win team this year

  80. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 11:59 am

    austin, thanks, but nothing easier than having Fred Stanley in the house.

  81. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Crome may win the Triple Crown but he’s not getting any of my $$$$…

  82. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Very large crowd at Belmont today…should be fun

  83. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    somewhere in my collectibles I have a $2 win ticket on Big Red that was never cashed

  84. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Not many teams are out of the wild card. I would say 5-6 at this point. Most teams are around .500.

  85. Madrugador June 7th, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    Being a health care provider, good health, especially for you children is a great gift. Sometimes I get stuck in the weeds, thanks to JMills and Mac for the reality check.

  86. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    Madrugador, in the words of Sting – ” how fragile we are “. joeman, shout out to you, your daughter is one year married about now?

  87. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Madrugador,

    We all get too stuck in life’s activities to appreciate life’s blessings. Mills reminded me, and I’m glad he did.

    Now, I would like the team to be blessed with some offense.

  88. jmills June 7th, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    There’s so much baseball to play. Funny, when Skydome opened 25 years ago, the Jays were about 8 games back, and Cito Gaston had recently replaced Jimmy Williams. The Jays came back that year only to lose to the A’s for the league championship ( Canseco hit one into the fifth deck ).

  89. bigdan22 June 7th, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    “Maybe the reason for fill-in Roberts was Refsnyder.
    Ever think of that , anyone?”

    ——

    I don’t think the Yanks think that far ahead, quite honestly. Didn’t they try to sign Infante to a three-year deal and got beaten out by the Royals? Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.

    Even though I designated Refs as one of the two most important Yankee prospects coming into this season (with Sanchez), I don’t think the Yanks had that high of a regard for him. Not so high as to keep a position open on the major league roster. But I bet the season Refs is putting together right now changes all that. I think, if he stays healthy, the Yanks will do nothing this coming offseason to impede his progress as their future second baseman.

    Now Pirela is a whole different story. I don’t think anybody thinks of him as a prospect. And my point from this morning is, is that justified? Do we know that Refs will have, if he has, a better major league future than Pirela?

    Maybe the best thing for the Yanks to do is do nothing. Let both players come to camp next ST and let them compete. Maybe Pirela is the stop gap to Refsynder? And maybe once he gets a shot he pulls a Solarte?

    But for this season of transition, I have a feeling we are going to have to live with Roberts so long as he stays healthy. Which of course, is not a given.

  90. Madrugador June 7th, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    Mac
    From your mouth to his ears.

    Beautiful day in the Mid Atlantic. To all, have a great one and much happiness to 86 on the wedding of his daughter. I’ m out for now.

  91. Tidrow June 7th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    If Pirela can’t find a spot on this offensively challenged team while he’s tearing up AAA ball at a .340/377/479 clip the organization must not really think much of him. He’s done it in 215 ab so it’s a pretty good sample size. Must be a horrendous fielder.

  92. mick June 7th, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Maybe the best thing for the Yanks to do is do nothing. Let both players come to camp next ST and let them compete. Maybe Pirela is the stop gap to Refsynder? And maybe once he gets a shot he pulls a Solarte?
    ====================================
    But will the impatient fanbase stand for that?
    If not immediate success than we shoulda got this guy or that.
    Can’t have it both ways…

  93. mick June 7th, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Not many teams are out of the wild card. I would say 5-6 at this point. Most teams are around .500.
    ===========
    this is what the owners wanted, parity.
    why hal went along with it could be the undermining of the yankees as we once knew them.

  94. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Mac,
    That’s about the extent of the Spanish I remember from HS, as well.

  95. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
    Not many teams are out of the wild card. —————–
    ——————————
    it’s the first week of june

  96. mick June 7th, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    it’s the first week of june
    ===========
    yet you declared many teams dead.

  97. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    jmills June 7th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
    Madrugador, in the words of Sting – ” how fragile we are “. joeman, shout out to you, your daughter is one year married about now?
    ————————————-
    not yet but it’s one year from my TKR

  98. joeman June 7th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    I would say 5-6 teams out of the WC hunt this early in the year is a lot

  99. mick June 7th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    other than houston and maybe the cubs, who will both gain parity soon, who else is out of it?

  100. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Mac, it is probably too early to say 5 or 6 teams are out of the WC race, but if you look at the records of the teams at the back of the pack and their potential to put together a sustained period of winning, 5 or 6 is probably a realistic estimate.

  101. yankinvegas June 7th, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Remember when Delcarman and Hansen were so highly touted? Anybody taken by Boston will be called great by the Boston-centric media led by Peter Gammons.
    I like the Yankees switch to college guys, more developed, more mature.
    The biggest failure we have had is our total lack of interest in the Cuban players. I guess the Yankees were burned so badly by Igawa, they decided to totally remove themselves from that market. Dumb. Really dumb.
    The expected haul on July 2 is a great step. But none of those kids will help in NY for at least 4 or 5 years.

  102. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Mick,

    That’s all in the AL. Parity is in.

  103. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    On a side note: The “old” Phil Hughes we remembered so well, showed up at yesterday’s game against the Astros. Hughes gave up 3 HR’s, which accounted for 4 of the 5 runs the Astros scored in 5-4 Twins loss.

  104. JimK June 7th, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    BTW, Houston has won 10 of their last 13 games.

  105. bigdan22 June 7th, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    “But will the impatient fanbase stand for that?
    If not immediate success than we shoulda got this guy or that.
    Can’t have it both ways”

    ——

    That’s a good point. Given the Yanks’ culture and fan base it’s unlikely they ever really “let the kids play” in a traditional sense. Not unless there’s a wholesale breakdown of a unit like we’ve seen this year with the rotation. But when it comes to position players, I do think it’s possible for the Yanks to integrate one young player a year, insofar as there is a need and an actual worthy candidate. The Yanks field enough big name stars I believe to sustain something like that. In point of fact though, it’s not like the last several years have generated a whole lot of worthy position player candidates.

    I’ve felt for going on two years now that Almonte was worthy, but the Yanks seem to disagree. They had a perfect opportunity to DH him last month when Beltran was on the DL. Next spring, the Yanks could have two positions open that new young players could compete for: Second base and maybe Right field. There’s Pirela and Refs for 2b and Almonte and Flores for RF. Will the Yanks even conceive of allowing two young home grown players into their lineup at one time? I don’t think so. But maybe one.

  106. austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Houston has a very good farm system. They will be good pretty quickly.

  107. tomingeorgia June 7th, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    jmills,
    Watching your boys against STL. If Buerhly could bottle his smoke and mirrors, he would be a very wealthy man.

  108. mick June 7th, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Parity is in.
    It’s good for baseball, as other sports found out long ago, when all teams have a shot each year.
    It won’t prevent other “dynasties” but it will give every team a chance, as salary caps, even soft ones,tend to do.
    Hal didn’t kick, as he wanted to limit spending anyway, but George would have had a coronary.
    He would have had to go along with it but would have spent anyway.
    No wonder he got so aggravated when they lost.
    George was so dynamic that his 2 sons took on both sides of his personalty.
    Looks like passive Hal won out..

  109. mick June 7th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Given the Yanks’ culture and fan base it’s unlikely they ever really “let the kids play” in a traditional sense. Not unless there’s a wholesale breakdown of a unit like we’ve seen this year with the rotation.
    ==============================
    we’ve seen this the past 2 seasons when old vets breakdown they must be replaced.
    seems like no one is ready enough to warrant time otherwise.
    unless we are talking bullpen.
    this has always been the case here.

  110. Mottsx June 7th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Yankees draft all pitchers and 1b wtf

  111. mick June 7th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    good pitching seems to be what everyone wants as that is what teams are built on.
    finding bats is getting harder to find for some reason.
    it seems there is less room for mediocre pitchers than hitters.

  112. blake June 7th, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    Mottsx says:
    June 7, 2014 at 2:02 pm
    Yankees draft all pitchers and 1b wtf

    According to that thing yesterday they are gonna sign two 3B and 2 SSs in the international market

  113. Mottsx June 7th, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    I don’t mind the pitching I just don’t get the multiple 1b. They usually can’t play other positions and end up as dh.

  114. Missing Cano June 7th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    morales signs w twins

  115. Against All Odds June 7th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    morales signs w twins

    —————-

    Crap

  116. SweetSpot June 7th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Looks to me like the doom and gloom about the Yankees drafting and development was an exaggeration. Pretty good lately and the future looks bright as well.

  117. NYY fan in NH June 7th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    Well Morales is off the board so now we pray that Beltran and Tex stay healthy!

  118. GregD June 7th, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Drafting several players that play 1B isn’t really a problem since we’d be lucky if one of them made it to the big leagues

  119. Giuseppe Franco June 7th, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    I guess some people simply refuse to see what they don’t want to see.

    Their drafting and development has been a disaster and even Hal admitted over the offseason that “their system was broken”.

    Look no further than their current starting lineup with Gardner being the lone guy who was drafted and developed by the Yanks in the last 7 years. One guy. One.

    Due to their lack of success in that area, they were forced to go into the 2014 season with dumpster dives Roberts and Johnson manning 2B and 3B and still have no capable backup for 1B.

    They were extremely fortunate that Solarte has played far beyond expectations or they’d be even worse off. And Solarte was not developed by this organization.

    This team would be in far better shape right now if they simply had a couple of home grown starters who could manage league average production.

  120. CompassRosy June 7th, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    JimK June 7th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
    BTW, Houston has won 10 of their last 13 games.

    ~ ~ ~

    And, whodathunk the Rays would be bringing up the rear in the majors?
    (even though they broke their 10-game losing streak last night ~ with the M’s once again proving they play to the level of their competition, be it good or bad: 9-12 vs teams under .500, 22-17 vs teams .500 or better).

    ============

    austinmac June 7th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
    Houston has a very good farm system. They will be good pretty quickly.

    ~ ~ ~

    Sure seems so. The ALW may, in the not too distant future, be to MLB what the NFC is, currently, to the NFL :-)

  121. Pat M. June 7th, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Is this true about Kendry Morales ??? Twins ???

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    Morales to #Twins confirmed. One-year deal. Dollars less than Drew but “in ballpark,” source says. First reported: @JonHeymanCBS

  123. sammiejohnson June 7th, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Rhett Bollinger ?@RhettBollinger 6m
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