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Postgame notes: “Worst kind of teammate right there”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 07, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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The Yankees offense had just rallied. Carlos Beltran had gotten his first hit since coming off the disabled list, Yangervis Solarte had tied the game with a two-run single, and it seemed the Yankees just might take control of this game after all. Then David Phelps took the mound in the next half inning and immediately walked the first two hitters, his first two walks of the game.

David Phelps“Those are the two biggest at-bats of the game,” Phelps said. “We just scored three runs. The worst kind of teammate right there. Go out and we have all the momentum right there, and in nine pitches just give it right back.”

Of course, you know what happened next. A fastball down and in — “Down at his shoe tops,” Phelps said — and Salvador Perez lifted it for a go-ahead three-run home run into the Royals bullpen. Another run would score that inning, and in a matter of minutes the Yankees had gone from trailing by three, to tied, to trailing by four.

“We tie the game up like that,” John Ryan Murphy said. “The most important thing is to get that first guy out.”

For the most part, Phelps has been a winable starting pitcher this season. He’s been a kind of bend-don’t-break guy, rarely overwhelming but generally keeping his team in the game. He had a 3.38 ERA at the end of May, and that was even with one particularly brutal relief appearance early in the season.

In his past two starts, though, Phelps has carried a tie into the late innings only to have the outing ruined with a four-run frame. He allowed four runs in the seventh last time out, then four runs in the sixth tonight.

“Frustrating is a PG-rated word for it,” Phelps said. “Pitching decent going into the later parts of the games, but it’s tough to win ballgames when you give up four runs in the sixth and seventh inning. It’s just frustrating. … I’ve just got to trust my stuff and throw something over the plate. I’m trying to make the game a lot harder than it needs to be.”

Derek Jeter• Beltran’s first hit since coming off the disabled list was a two-out RBI double in the sixth inning. “I feel a little better,” Beltran said. “Every day I come to the ballpark and go to the cage and work on my swing, get the rhythm and the timing. The only way I’m going to get it is by playing.”

• Probably goes without saying that Beltran is not taking as many daily swings as he took before discovering the bone spur in his elbow (Beltran was notorious for taking an incredible number of swings each day). He said he can still feel the bone spur, but he doesn’t feel like it’s keeping him from being productive. “I feel it,” Beltran said. “But it’s not like what I felt when I hurt it.”

• Beltran had been 0-for-9 since coming off the DL.

• Speaking of guys coming back injury, Shawn Kelley had two strikeouts and a walk in two-thirds of an inning tonight with Trenton. Still uncertain whether he’ll be activated on Monday or go for one more rehab appearance. “We’ll talk about it tonight and see if we determine if he needs another outing,” Girardi said. “We’ll have an answer in the morning.”

• Jacoby Ellsbury now has a 12-game hitting streak, the longest for any Yankees player this season. He had two hits tonight and is hitting .396 during the streak. Yangervis Solarte also had two hits today. Those two combined for half of the Yankees hits and both of their extra-base hits.

• This was actually the first time since May 11 that Solarte had two RBI in a game. He did it five times up to May 11.

• Back to Phelps for a bit: 10 hits allowed were a career-high for him. So were the seven runs. Before tonight, Yankees starters had a 2.91 ERA since May 14, the second-best mark in the Majors during that span.

• Phelps hadn’t walked anyone before those two walks to start the sixth. What caused the sudden control problems? “I think I was trying to be a little too fine,” Phelps said. “To Butler, I figured he was swinging out of the box so I tried to be a little too fine with a couple of two-seamers running into him. Just started off with balls, then started to overthink things. Threw a 3-1 curveball that wasn’t even close. I’m trying to get a groundball from Gordon and threw two changeups that, the first one was short of the plate and the second one was right on top of it. Just got to do a better job of throwing strikes.”

Jarrod Dyson• The pitch Perez hit was “actually a pretty good pitcher’s pitch,” according to Murphy. It was down and in basically where Phelps wanted it. “I’m trying to go in to get a groundball there and maybe get a double play,” Phelps said. “It was down and in. I was shocked that he hit it like he did, but tip your cap to him. He put a good swing on it.”

• Before today’s Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Railriders game, longtime manager Dave Miley was inducted into the International League Hall of Fame. Brian Cashman was on hand for the ceremony, Miley’s number was retired by the Triple-A team, and the Yankees announced a new four-year agreement to extend their player development contract with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Really great stuff for Miley, a man who generates a ton of respect within this organization and from his players. I learned a lot about baseball by sitting in his office there in Scranton, where he’d let me ask all the dumb questions in the world and would only sometimes make fun of me for it. Miley’s a good man, and there’s a good reason the Yankees keep asking him and his staff to come back year after year. Congratulations to him.

• Also notable from today’s Triple-A game: Jose Pirela played first base. He’s been raking in Triple-A, and I suppose he could become a right-handed first base option if Mark Teixeira were to get hurt again. Pirela’s not considered a very good defensive player, but he already has experience at second base, third base and left field (used to play shortstop, but that’s more or less come to an end). If he continues to hit, Pirela could go from essentially a forgotten prospect to a legitimate big league utility option.

• Weird moment from tonight’s game: Matt Daley picked off a guy in the sixth but he was called safe. The Yankees were going to challenge — and almost certainly win — but the umpires ruled that the next at-bat had started because Daley had gotten back on the rubber ready to pitch.

• Final word to Girardi: “It’s not what you want, but you’ve got to keep fighting back, that’s the bottom line. We’re still fighting in the ninth inning. We put some good at-bats in the ninth inning, hit some balls hard, but they got caught.”

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115 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Worst kind of teammate right there””

  1. yankeepankee June 8th, 2014 at 12:13 am

    Phelps is very limited. No put-away pitch.
    The Yanks need to be progressive and have Tanaka and Kuroda teach him a splitter.
    In fact, the Yanks should have Tanaka and Kuroda tutor other pitchers on the majors and upper minors staffs who need a strikeout pitch and are stuck with middling stuff right now. Claiborne can use one, etc.

  2. pete22 June 8th, 2014 at 12:17 am

    Phelps is what he is, a 5th starter. When he keeps you in the game through 5 as he did tonight you should thank the gods and he should be on a very short leash regardless of pitch count. Girardi getting off easy on that late hook for some reason.

  3. Pat M. June 8th, 2014 at 12:19 am

    NY Rangers and The LA Kings have played 8 periods of hockey thus far, and LA has never had the lead yet they are up 2-0 . Tonight’s tough just put The Blueshirts in a very tough spot…..

  4. jmills June 8th, 2014 at 12:25 am


  5. jmills June 8th, 2014 at 12:39 am

    Al Harbour is a master. Love those Islander teams!

  6. jmills June 8th, 2014 at 12:42 am

    I think I meant to say, Al Arbour. What a great coach, the Islanders were a brewing team!

  7. bigdan22 June 8th, 2014 at 12:45 am

    As the notes indicate, and as I pointed out hours ago, this one is entirely on Phelps. I’m glad Phelps has taken responsibility for it. But he’ll have to improve next time to build on some of the promise he showed earlier this season. Walking batters in that situation was inexcusable. His pitch count was low (69) and it was only the 6th inning.

    In contrast, Phelps should have been removed in the 7th inning last Monday against the Mariners after the leadoff double. But at that time Girardi had no Betances available and no one else he could trust so Phelps was left in to load the bases and then the bullpen came in to throw away the game.

    The bullpen is indeed short but Phelps needed to go more than five innings when his pitch count was as low as it was. He needs to throw strikes and either get beat on what he has or not. But free bases are never an option in that situation.

    Part of the learning process built into a transition season.

  8. jmills June 8th, 2014 at 12:46 am

    I hated Philly ( I know that’s a strong word ).

  9. sammiejohnson June 8th, 2014 at 1:12 am

    I was gong to comment on the game, but first let me check my “contemporaneous game notes”.

    OK, we suck.

    Besides, most teams spend a half billion dollars in the off-season for a “transition year”.

    (I almost forgot, “Let the kid’s play”)

  10. pete22 June 8th, 2014 at 1:50 am

    How is the bullpen short? Even if you say Robertson was not available, you have JRam, Warren, Betances (only 32 pitches in his last 2 games), Daley, Thornton and Leblanc to get you through 3-4 innings.

  11. pete22 June 8th, 2014 at 1:54 am

    One of the things people have to consider is that guys like Phelps, Nuno and Whitley having just recently transitioned to starter might start experiencing a bit of dead arm. Pitch count is not an accurate barometer for pitcher fatigue for these guys. The main sign is loss of command. As I pointed out with Duffy before he gave up the 3 runs and Phelps when he walked Butler with some awful pitches, the signs were clear. Both managers failed. Girardi’s fail was decisive.

  12. UnKnown June 8th, 2014 at 2:13 am

    Transition year. :lol:

    Makes me laugh every time I read it.

  13. SweetSpot June 8th, 2014 at 2:38 am

    The Phelps Nuno experiments need to end.

  14. Pat M. June 8th, 2014 at 3:01 am

    Pete makes a strong case regarding the dead arm phase…. Good night and good morning to Doreen and the breakfast club.

  15. bbb51 June 8th, 2014 at 3:14 am

    Phelps has never really been all that good. “Dead arm” is just an excuse. It’s possible, but more likely they just aren’t good.

    With Kelley coming back and Ramirez up, they should move Betances to the rotation if they want any shot. There aren’t enough leads to protect.


    Strikeout pitchers like Tanaka, Betances and Pineda are how you minimize the effect of the poor defense.

  16. pete22 June 8th, 2014 at 3:58 am

    bbb51 June 8th, 2014 at 3:14 am

    Phelps has never really been all that good. “Dead arm” is just an excuse. It’s possible, but more likely they just aren’t good.

    They are not mutually exclusive

  17. pete22 June 8th, 2014 at 4:00 am

    You can do all you want with the rotation and bullpen, but this team is going nowhere unless the team starts scoring runs. When and if that happens, they might have a chance. Otherwise they are just a 444 team which they have been since starting off 15-10

  18. Mottsx June 8th, 2014 at 7:49 am

    I drew the Yankees in my 13 run pool that started 3 weeks ago. They haven’t scored more than 7 and consistently scoring 2 and 4. I’d shoulda drew the Astros. S

  19. blake June 8th, 2014 at 7:53 am

    Sale in the mind cruising last night up 5-1…..he loads the bases and Trouter hits a 3-2 a au over the CF wall to tie it…….he’s “struggled” to a .948 ops this year and is just getting going

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock June 8th, 2014 at 7:56 am

    No posts in over 3 hours? Man people must be down.
    While it is a ludicrous approach – to try and win based on bullpen strength at the expense of SP -’if they’re going to try and do this, then they need to get rid of gasoline guys like Daley and pound higher-end types.’
    Get Heredia to go along with Jo-Ram and bring up Burawa as well.

    I am beginning to experience desperation to get Jeter to the postseason, come what may. It’s unthinkable that his career should end in meaningless game at Fenway Park.

  21. mick June 8th, 2014 at 8:04 am

    For all our emphasis on pitching, losing 60% of your staff is what is killing us.
    For those who say it’s the offenses fault that too can be blamed on not having confidence in 3 of your 5 starters.
    After all, if we went into the season with 3 of our 5 starters out, how many would say this was a .500 ballclub?

  22. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:07 am

    IMO the offense has lost more games this year than the pitching has

  23. mick June 8th, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Why not just put most of the blame on Beltran.

  24. mick June 8th, 2014 at 8:17 am

    If the difference between winning consistently is 800 runs per year versus the 650 we are headed for that’s about 1 more run per game.
    Choo, no doubt, would have been a better choice and is 10 years younger.
    It’s all about marketing and star quality.
    Sell the team..

  25. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:20 am

    Last night was on phelps…..or Girardi for leaving him in there too long…….it is what it is though…..their middle relief is really terrible and Joe probAbaly trusted phelps more than those guys .

    They really need to give JRam a shot to bridge those innings

  26. austinmac June 8th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    The Yankees are below average statistically in offense and defense. I see no basis to expect the team to win.

    Jeter’s last year will end very sadly. Thank Hal and management.

  27. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:24 am

    At the moment it seems like if Betances isn’t available they lose the game a lot of times in the innings he would pitch

  28. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Good morning! Have always been of the opinion that you want to use the big K arms. Just as Dellin should have been high leverage much earlier, ditto JRam now. With this O we have very little margin for error. And JRam needs reps. I’d rather see an ST HEan even with the change off than a mid-season Daley. Here’s hoping Beltran can stay healthy and get in a groove, ditto Teix, or we are cooked. Who would have think we would be so Beltran dependent in 2014!

    Finally Trenton put up the pitcher that was TBD. I figured it would be Manny and sure enough. Anyone else going to the Trenton game? Will ManBan go more than 2 innings? Stay tuned. Really funny to reread that article I posted yesterday on Refsnyder trashing the shift and blaming it for his errors and defensive woes. I will say Refsnyder showed some range in making a couple of nice plays to cover ground to his left yesterday but he isn’t exactly fluid at 2B and agree with Phil the Thrill that he’s not very adept so far at turning the DP. It’ll be very interesting to see if anyone moves up when shirt season starts next week or if Yanks typically wait until ASB. But you’d think they might fast track the bats with this woeful D. Funny too that everyone in upper levels it seems us getting a shot at 1B from Pirela to OBrien. Curious that Austin because OBrien’s lately at 1B has revisited playing 3B, which is not Austin’s best position. Noticing a fair number of OB’s on breaking balls but at least his OBP has improved dramatically over last ten. Also a couple of hits for Mason last night. Do they give him a blow today? Seems with Heathcott on the DL, Mason’s getting far too many CF days. Sanchez had two CS and he dies have a plus arm and puts that ball low and to the 1st base side of 2B, so that’s good to see. Anyway, it’s a beautiful day for live baseball.

  29. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:32 am

    Sorry on phone should read woeful *O not D and OBrien’s K*ing on those breaking pitches

  30. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:35 am

    As for postseason, ugh! the idea that Jeet’s career might end at Fenway kind of makes me sick.

  31. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Oops this sentence should read: I’d rather see an ST *JRam than a midseason Daley…

  32. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Friend of mine who knows a thing or two saw the river dawgs play the other night…..said Jusge might end up a monster. Says he moves much better than you’d think and that he’s really got an idea of how to hit…..thinks his bat will translate as he moves up the ladder

  33. Doreen June 8th, 2014 at 8:41 am

    We’re going yankeefeminista.

    My husband wants shade, if possible. I can never remember which side is the less sunny side. I’m trying to talk him into slathering on sunscreen and wearing visors and drinking a lot of water. I think I have convinced him.

    Under “normal” circumstances, where the Yankees are a run-scoring team, you let Phelps pitch the 6th. But this is not a normal Yankees team. Either you don’t let Phelps start that inning at all, or you are ready to take him out right after the first walk. They don’t have the luxury to be patient. A relief pitcher should have been ready to go at the start of the 6th.

    I too would rather they bring in Ramirez than Daley. Maybe now they will. Ramirez has done well both times and can pitch longer than Daley. They don’t have, again, the luxury of bringing him along as slowly as they did Dellin.

  34. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:43 am

    At this point….can Reysnder be worse than Roberts? I think now is a good time to see…..give you about a month to evaluate before having to make decisions for the trade deadline.

  35. bruceb June 8th, 2014 at 8:44 am

    The most depressing thing about this team is that we’re no longer holding the fort waiting for the cavalry to arrive. Hopefully, CC and Kelley will be back some time in the next month…but this is our “A” lineup we’re running out there now. We’re not only average but, worse still, we’re boring.

  36. mick June 8th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    While George knew about as much as the average LoHudder about baseball, Hal grew up on tennis.
    Not that many owners know much about the game but Hal is the anti-George.
    If he is as bad as many here think he is then he eventually will have to sell.
    No guarantee a guy like Cuban gets it so it could be worse.
    Get ready for the long haul, it could be the 80′s , it could be 65-75..

  37. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    I think JRam bad to work on some things before he will be a great reliever…..his stuff is good but it’s not so good like Betances that he can get away with just throwing it down the middle……but having said that… a 4th option reliever he’s way better than anybody else they have

  38. Yankee Trader June 8th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Good morning and thanks for the update YF

    When Phelps walked Butler to start the 6th, on a curveball in the dirt, after losing command of it on the other preceding pitches, it appeared to me Murphy was getting the signals on what pitch to throw from the dugout?

    Did you notice that?

  39. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Could Cuban even but the yanks by himself? I know he’s rich but can he swing like 2 or 3 billion by himself? Maybe he could…..once Bud is gone the opportunity for him to buy a club might be back. Baseball needs an owner that has some personality……

  40. mick June 8th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    If you had a choice which would you take?

    Ellsbury, Gardner, Beltran , Tex, McCann, Soriano/Ichiro, Jeter, Solarte, Roberts


    Tanaka, Kuroda, Phelps, Nuno , Whitley.

  41. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Hi Doreen, good to see! Only true shade is to sit in 200s in last row behind plate. It should be pretty hot today and not sure if we’ll get a breeze from the river. I am purely guessing but that OB will catch and Dugas may play CF but then maybe no as they had Mason play CF in both games in the recent DH…

    The thing though with Phelp’s was that he was clearly losing it and Girardi tried to get by with him. He should have been removed after the first walk if not sooner; he was put pitching BP. I would have gone directly to JRam to start the 6th even if he is still “green” but the hierarchy says otherwise.

  42. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    YT, you are welcome. No, didn’t notice but it makes sense. Not sure why they came back with the curve and Phelps could not locate it or much.

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock June 8th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Judge is the bat I’ve been most
    With and yea he moved
    Very well on the bases down in Lakewood for a man his size which was a pleasant surprise. He never really had to track a ball in RF and DH’d the other game so I didn’t get to see how he moves Off the bat. What surprised me is how discerning he was
    In the box and how he laid off crap soft stuff.’would like to see him against pitchers who throw more
    Convincing breaking stuff though. His swing was nice and level too and from reports I was expecting mOre of an OBrien type of approach. So far,’Judge looks very sound at the plate to me.

    I’ll be at Manny game
    Today.’kinda sorry to miss Kuroda as he’s back to being the good Kuroda
    It would seem. No doubt will miss
    Dellin too thank goodness for Iphone

  44. Doreen June 8th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Just got our tickets. Section 107.

  45. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Blake, well few pitcher’s stuff is as good as Betance’s and JRam will be much more lethal once he is in midseason form and has the change working.

    As for Ref, think they won’t do any such thing. They live their vets. Unfortunately.

  46. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    *love their vets

  47. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:55 am

    Agree on Judge. Great approach,bogging with the pitch and waiting for his pitch; power without even trying, and yeah he moves very well. Kid is a beast. I want him in Trenton by end of the year!

  48. Yankee Trader June 8th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Forbes valuation at 2.5 Billion

    I read the other day it was over 3B?

  49. yankeefeminista June 8th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    In the box and how he laid off crap soft stuff.’would like to see him against pitchers who throw more
    Convincing breaking stuff though
    Yes, very impressive, and think he needs to move up.

  50. blake June 8th, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Blake, well few pitcher’s stuff is as good as Betance’s and JRam will be much more lethal once he is in midseason form and has the change working.”

    Yes his stuff is very good…..I just meant it’s not so good that he can just throw it down the middle like Betances can…..Betances can throw the ball right down the middle and guys still can’t hit it……that’s a big advantage. But Jrams fastball/cu combo still should have him pitching a lot for the yanks……if Joe does to him in the 6th last night then maybe the crisis would have been averted…..who knows…..but he needs to throw him into the fire and see

  51. blake June 8th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    As for Ref, think they won’t do any such thing. They live their vets. Unfortunately.”


  52. J. Alfred Prufrock June 8th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Betances with a change up would be laughably good in the rotation. Too bad the Yankees have everyone gasping that he’s the next Mo instead of in position to be one half of the team’s
    Two-headed monster front of rotation duo.

    This is Joba II but much much worse, since Betances is way better than Joba and there is a real need in
    The rotation right now

  53. gilmac June 8th, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Missed this game. Attended the 1st game of the UVA/MD super regional in Charlottesville, VA yesterday. Maryland won 5-4. Quite a well played game. There were approximately 8 draft picks between both squads including a first rounder, 2 from the comp balance round, and a 2nd rounder. Plan to attend #2 today at noon.

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    Did the Yankees get lucky not to have to face their 100 mph pitcher, Ventura, or is he injured?

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    Phelps along with Nuno and Whitely are decent 6th or 7th guys not starters on any kind of a regular basis, but for right now the Yankees are forced to use them until some people come back or better options present themselves. It is what it is.

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