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Pregame notes: “We’ll make an evaluation after tonight”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 12, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

John Ryan Murphy

Tonight, John Ryan Murphy is in the lineup. Tomorrow, he could be gone.

Francisco Cervelli is eligible to come off the disabled list on Friday, and Yankees manager Joe Girardi said the team is still not sure what it’s going to do. All indications are that Cervelli will return, meaning it’s a question of optioning Murphy back to Triple-A or carrying three catchers (or pulling off some sort of trade that renders all of this moot).

“We’ll make an evaluation after tonight, see where he’s at,” Girardi said. “We feel that he’s pretty healthy (now) and that’s a great sign. It could be when we get back (that he’ll be activated). We’ll see where we are after tonight and evaluate it every day.”

The fact Girardi brought up the idea of waiting until the team comes home makes me think that’s the way they’re going to go. Cervelli is in the Double-A lineup tonight, getting another rehab game for a few more at-bats. He could play a few more minor league games before being activated, but indications are that he’s physically ready.

Murphy has hit .296/.321/.370 in 54 at-bats as Cervelli’s replacement. Cervelli played in just five games before straining his hamstring, so his .188/.235/.250 slash line is relatively meaningless. Cervelli was hitting .269/.377/.500 through 52 at-bats last year.

“We’ll talk about what our needs are when he’s eligible,” Girardi said. “That will probably be later tonight or tomorrow. We talked about Murph originally getting a chance to play every day down at Triple-A and continuing to develop, but he’s made some big strides here. Cervy is a guy that we believe can help us, too.”

Unless the Yankees are ready to give up on either Kelly Johnson or Alfonso Soriano, it seems that Murphy is going to end up back in Triple-A.

“I don’t think it ever hurts anyone to play every day, to develop,” Girardi said. “You get in a rhythm more and I think you can learn more about yourself physically sometimes if you’re playing and your career is to be an everyday catcher. I think that’s important to do, to learn how to handle fatigue and all those different types of things.”

CC Sabathia• This is actually the first time Murphy’s caught Chase Whitley in the big leagues. Those two are pretty good friends, so this is a pretty cool night for them. As for why Murphy’s playing tonight, Girardi said it’s because the Yankees are facing a lefty and also because he wants to play Brian McCann all three games in Oakland — even the one started by a left-hander — and so this seemed like a best opportunity to give McCann a day off.

• CC Sabathia has been playing catch and threw “a little bit of a flat ground” yesterday, according to Girardi. It’s possible Sabathia could throw off a mound next week, Girardi said.

• Still no throwing for Michael Pineda, but Girardi said Pineda is “pretty close” to playing catch. Girardi said there’s be no new setback. After the most recent injury problem, the Yankees planned to have him rest this long.

• Carlos Beltran played catch for the second straight day. Girardi said he’s pretty sure Beltran is scheduled to take tomorrow off before playing catch again on Saturday. Still doesn’t seem particularly close to playing the field.

• The biggest negative from Whitley’s first five starts has been his relatively low pitch counts. He has yet to throw more than 91 pitches in a game, and he’s only once gotten an out beyond the fifth inning. “We’d like to get him to 90, get him to 100, but we’re still going to be careful because this is really his first year of ever starting,” Girardi said. “I think the most innings he’s ever logged in a season is maybe 85, so with the way our bullpen sets up sometimes, you can take advantage of that. They’re pretty well rested at this point, so you can take advantage of that. But he’s taken a lot of big steps since he’s been here, and we will slowly increase his pitches a little bit.”

• Girardi said he’s left a message for Joe Torre about last night’s fair-foul call at first base, but he has not yet had an actually conversation with Torre to get a clarification on the rule and whether an umpire is allowed to review a fair-foul call made in front of him.

• Saw Jesus Montero pregame. He was called up from the Mariners’ Triple-A team tonight, replacing Michael Suanders, who went on the disabled list. Montero is now listed a full-time first baseman. He hasn’t caught a game this year.

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47 Responses to “Pregame notes: “We’ll make an evaluation after tonight””

  1. wanzies222 June 12th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Repost for Dan -

    Dan -

    The pipeline is full of high upside catchers. Yankees have by far the deepest pool of them, top to bottom. Oleo is on a nice little run, but the guy you want to keep an eye on is Luis Torrens. Kid can play. I’m talking about defensively, which is what counts at that position at that age.

    Steve

  2. UnKnown June 12th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Girardi your answer on the review is NO. You live and die with the call on the field. In last nights case Wegner missed it. Oh well. Life goes on.

    And so does the streak of no more than 4 runs in a game by the offense.

  3. yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    reposts

    yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 8:41 pm
    “Two things I think you can say right now about Clarkin. He’s not big or getting bigger and he’s never going to throw in the mid-90s so the Prospect Industry is never going to love him.”

    “Like I said, completely meaningless. Right now he’s like 89-92 which is plenty hard enough for a lefty. And he actually has two workable secondary pitches at present, big curve and CU. ”

    What is your source for this scouting report? Clarkin isn’t small; he’s 6’2 and sits 91-93/4, touching 95; many think he may sit mid 90?s in a couple of years, pretty impressive especially for a lefty. And the curveball isn’t just serviceable, it is his best pitch, a K pitch and potentially plus. He is working on keeping his fastball down and on his control, which is his biggest challenge right now and commanding his pitches. But in a sss his peripherals are pretty darn good 9.08 K/9 1.96 BB/9. Let’s hope he keeps progressing.

    yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 8:49 pm
    Torrens should be back in a couple of weeks as per Newman. Just missed seeing him by one game because he got hurt.

    Pruf, as per your question, Avelino should be back in a couple of weeks.
    __
    I drank Turkish coffee tonight to help me stay awake for this one. Usually I have no problem doing so, but last few nights I have not lasted the whole game. Must be getting old…

  4. SweetSpot June 12th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Pat M. June 12th, 2014 at 8:29 pm
    SweetSpot. I don’t stray very far from there. Bart back to SF however I’m finished with Raider games. 5 blocks from the Stadium reminds me of the setting from Michael Jackson ” Thriller Video “, very frightening at night . Boarding and drinks await , I’m tail lights !!!!!
    ———————–
    One Raider game was all I needed to cure myself of the need to ever go to another football game at OACC. The metal detectors and warrant sweep (yes I am serious) didn’t phase me . . . but 50,000 psychotic drunks dressed like KISS did.

  5. wanzies222 June 12th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders 7m
    After the run-scoring double, Bleich hits a batter to end his day. Burawa in for SWB leading 3-2.

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders 3m
    Perez doubles to even the game at 3-3 in the home seventh.

  6. wanzies222 June 12th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders 3m
    And the Clippers have climbed the mountain. Three doubles by Columbus in the seventh leads to 4-3 leads Clippers with a runner at second.

  7. Madrugador June 12th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Really rather see them keep Murphy on the big league club. McCann needs the work at first base since he is going to end up there after Teixeira is done. Cervelli can play first or third if they like his bat that much and since his durability is severely in question, can’t believe he will last too long on the active roster anyway.

  8. SweetSpot June 12th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    They do not have the roster flexibility to carry three catchers. Murphy can play every day at SWB. He’s 23 years old there is no rush.

  9. Doreen June 12th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Yankeefeminista,

    I liked your earlier post about bringing Cano back.

    I was able to stay awake for the first game, but saw nothing last night. Fell asleep on the sofa. Went upstairs to bed and heard Tex’s HR before falling asleep for the night. Hate west coast trips.

  10. Madrugador June 12th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    The only time I can follow the games on the West Coast is when I work the night shift. Don’t like night shifts and don’t like the West Coast.

  11. wanzies222 June 12th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders 4m
    Curses, Zoiled Again! Almonte delivers a solo tater that bring the RailRiders back to within one at 5-4.

  12. Hankflorida June 12th, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    And so does the streak of no more than 4 runs in a game by the offense.

    Unknown, when a team is composed of mostly banjo hitters with Beltran, McCaan and Soriano not pulling their weight as power guys, what do you expect. Tonight, we have six banjos, and it is difficult when three hits in a row may not get a run in as the outfielders are not playing deep. When we had Murder’s Row and Cano, our starting pitching may have been good enough with our bullpen, but unfortunately banjo hitters and five or six inning starting pitchers are not a good mix. Four runs a game is what last year team’s average, and your saying that this team may not reach that goal. Something’s got to change!

  13. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=23855

    ——

    Very recent scouting report on Clarkin. According to this report he sits 90 now, with little projectability because of his size and physical maturity. This scout rates his CU as his best secondary pitch not his curveball.

    Like I said, it’s way to early to be certain about much when it comes to a 19 year old pitcher. But it seems pretty clear he won’t be a mid-90s type lefty. After all, how many of those are there anyway. His competitive advantage now is his two serviceable secondary offerings that may in time both become better than average.

    Good one to follow.

  14. pete22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Blue Jays in free fall now, down 4-1. The division is wide open. July 1 baby, that’s the day we take the division lead.

  15. pete22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Hank, embrace positive regression, its the only hope left, that and maybe a kid replacing Roberts at 2B.

    Sounds like Whitley may be subject to a pitch count limit this year. That explains the early hooks.

  16. MTU June 12th, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Pete-

    We need to find an O first.

    ;)

  17. Giuseppe Franco June 12th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    I don’t know why but the term “Bronx Banjos” kinda makes me chuckle until I realize the front office over the offseason actually constructed this rather punchless roster on purpose.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    Almonte has power. Who knew?

    Oh, that’s right – Cashman/Girardi still don’t know. :roll:

  19. MTU June 12th, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    I think they are babying Whitley too much.

    They should have stretched him to 100 pitches a while ago.

    He needs to be able to go more than 5 on a regular basis.

    No problem w limiting his innings though.

    That makes sense.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Franco,

    LOL.

    But it’s so great every time Hank writes one of these, isn’t it?

    Hank is the best!

  21. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Thanks Steve. I bring up de Oleo because while there’s always something written and said about Torrens, it’s often the unspoken about prospect who actually produces. I’ve seen nothing written about this guy but a homer every eleven or so ABs should get one noticed. Especially if it’s accomplished over 100 ABs by a 21 year old.

    He seems to strike out quite a bit. It will be interesting to see what does over his next 100 ABs. 200 ABs at a level is a good signature sample.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Whitley is good.

    He’s quite an upgrade over Phelps/Nuno/Warren (were Warren in consideration to start – he’s fine in BP).

  23. Madrugador June 12th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    ” The division is wide open. July 1 baby, that’s the day we take the division lead.”
    pete22

    Love your optimism and hope is coincides with reality.

  24. Giuseppe Franco June 12th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    JAP,

    Yeah, it’s funny and sad at the same time.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    People have been talking about Torrens since he was 16.

    Our own luis has seen him play in Venezuela and has given scouting reports here on Lohud.

    He’s been hurt – not under the radar. Sorry he wasn’t healthy when Charleston made its only trip to Lakewood this year.

  26. MTU June 12th, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    JAP-

    I’m not sure what Whitley is just yet.

  27. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    Burawa coughed up the lead tonight in Scranton. He has been real inconsistent since coming back from his injury.

    My boy Zoilo, another homer (No. 9). Now OPSing OVER 1.000 batting left-handed (119 ABs). Left-handed power. I guess they Yanks just have so much of that in their OF these days that there’s no need for Almonte.

    Well, maybe next year.

  28. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    JAP you really need to get into that reading comprehension course STAT.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    MTU – I saw him pitch in Trenton.

    He’s got the best single pitch of all of them. The changeup is really a plus pitch.

    His slider was good last outing, he got Ks with it, and it’s still, as they say, a “developing” pitch. I think it’s already better than Warren’s. His fastball induces groundballs.

    I just think is stuff is better than those three.

  30. pete22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Madrugador June 12th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Love your optimism and hope is coincides with reality.
    =======================

    Reality is too cruel. I am now choosing to take safe haven in a world of my creation, and even if reality does not cooperate in the real world, my alternate world will correct this.

  31. pete22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Is it not interesting that Dempster forgoes 13 million in salary to be with his sick child, yet is now on the road announcing/analyzing games. You think he might be getting paid under the table so the Sox get room under the LT threshold. I doubt MLB network is paying him 13 million.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    bigdan,

    I did misread your post in this case. My apologies.

    But I did not misread you earlier, or did yankeefeminista; you made a totally superfluous comparison there that someone who understands positional value would make.

    You weakly write defensive responses when you get called out on your bluster. Too bad – because you just discourage dialogue by doing so.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    *would NOT make.

  34. Madrugador June 12th, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Pete22- sounds like Mythbusters- “I reject reality and substitute my own.”

  35. RhapsodyInBlue June 12th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Busy with my business these days, I started what I thought was a part time business and that I had retired but former customers have just over whelmed me with business. What a great country we live in!

    The last couple of games have nice. But I have to say this blog is an escape for me and a wonderful place to come just to read all of the knowledgeable folks who live here.

  36. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    “You weakly write defensive responses when you get called out on your bluster. Too bad – because you just discourage dialogue by doing so.”

    ——

    No, that’s not it at all. I’m not going to argue. Please just read my posts carefully, twice, before you decide to challenge them in the future.

    Just saves a lot of time.

  37. yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Thanks for the link on Clarkin. I see that this is a scouting report based on one outing on 6/5 though, so I’d rather see a larger ss scouting report especially with a weigh in from actual scouts. In the game I watched Clarkin was sitting around 91-93. Think the writer and most think he has the potential to add velo. And obviously as a lefty that is a bonus.

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Giuseppe Franco June 12th, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    JAP,

    Yeah, it’s funny and sad at the same time.
    ///

    It is, but it’s comforting to have Hank, who has seen it all and felt it all, here to give his perspective.

    I mean, how many Yankee fans can say, “No way was Joe Gordon as good as Cano – I SAW HIM PLAY!”

    I don’t know what to say about the clowns steering the ship. They still are, and they still don’t seem to have a clue.

  39. Patrick June 12th, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    Blue Jays in free fall now, down 4-1. The division is wide open. July 1 baby, that’s the day we take the division lead.

    I doubt it but I hope you are right

  40. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    “I see that this is a scouting report based on one outing on 6/5 though, . . .”

    ——

    Ok, I’m going to try to get discount for both you and JAP on that reading comprehension course.

    Hint—Date of report

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    No, that’s not it at all. I’m not going to argue. Please just read my posts carefully, twice, before you decide to challenge them in the future.

    Just saves a lot of time.
    ///

    Ok Dan, here’s the thing: you say something that smacks of self-regard every day, in the most transparent way. Challenge you? Who are you performing for, here?

    You basically repeat derivative scouting reports, rarely provide attribution, and then pontificate about players you have never seen play, in the most facile manner. What is there to challenge? You don’t present a “challenge,” dan – you like to hear your internet voice.

  42. yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:29 pm
    People have been talking about Torrens since he was 16.

    Our own luis has seen him play in Venezuela and has given scouting reports here on Lohud.

    He’s been hurt – not under the radar. Sorry he wasn’t healthy when Charleston made its only trip to Lakewood this year.
    ___
    Torrens was a top ranked IFA in 2012 who we happily drafted. He not only is a good defensive catcher, but has always been projected to hit, which could make him truly special especially because he has good breaking ball recognition, hitting ability. So young, but we shall see. Too bad he has been hurt for over a month. Happy to hear he will be back soon.

  43. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    JAP if you don’t like my posts, ignore them.

    But if you do challenge them, just get the facts right.

    Now I’m done with you.

  44. yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Dan, the date is irrelevant to his size (he’s 6’2 not small), his present or ultimate FB velocity (which may fluctuate even from game to game) or how good or bad his curve or changeup will be. Thanks for sharing the report link. Links are really a good policy.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock June 12th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Nope, I’m not going to agree to ignore entirely incongruous comparisons, if I see them being made. :D

  46. bigdan22 June 12th, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    6/5 is not the date he saw him pitch. It’s date of the report. The report was based on two outings in May, not one. It’s all in the report.

    Now I give up.

  47. yankeefeminista June 12th, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    Then Clarkin’s velo would likely not be as high if it were May vs. June, the latter when Clarkin would hopefully have built up arm strength. And I don’t follow the reasoning that because Clarkin sat at 90 in May in two games means that Clarkin won’t ever reach mid 90′s velo. Now I too give up.

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