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Yankees fall flat in road trip finale

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 15, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian McCann, Dale Scott, Joe Girardi

The Yankees had a chance to do something positive here in Oakland. Instead, their flaws were left exposed. Vidal Nuno was knocked around, the offense couldn’t do much, and the Yankees finished this 10-day road trip with an embarrassing 10-5 loss to the Athletics. The A’s have the best record in the American League, so the opponent certainly wasn’t an easy one, but the Yankees lost their last two in a row at the Coliseum and will head home having gone 5-4 on the trip. They’d won four in a row before scoring just one run last night and allowing six runs in the first two innings today. Nuno is one of three replacement starters in the Yankees rotation, and his ERA is up to 5.90 after today’s three-inning, eight-run debacle (rookie reliever Jose Ramirez didn’t help matters in his one inning of work). The lineup, meanwhile, got an RBI double by Mark Teixeira and a solo home run from Carlos Beltran — good signs, certainly — but were still being once again held to four runs or less before Brett Gardner hit a two-out, two-run home run in the ninth.

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71 Responses to “Yankees fall flat in road trip finale”

  1. NYY fan in NH June 15th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Nuno is done as a starter.. No other way around it. A 5.90 era is all you need to see!!!!

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock June 15th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Did not see today’s game yet but will say Yanks would be knee-jerk to make any definitive judgement of Jo-Ram off today’s outing. Liightning’s in that arm and they don’t have what he does outside of Dellin.

    Oh yeah: FREE BETANCES!

  3. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    They may not have a replacement at the moment.

    Especially another lefty.

    But I think they’d better find one.

    I wonder how Jeremy Bleich is doing at AAA ?

    Nuno has even put himself out of #5 starter territory.

  4. yankfan1 June 15th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    AAA rotation has been pretty awful, its Nuno’s job I feel.

  5. pete22 June 15th, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    They may not have a replacement at the moment.

    Especially another lefty.

    But I think they’d better find one.

    ==============

    Might be Happ. Down the road maybe CC.

    The young kids in the rotation have had a pretty easy schedule in terms of facing good hitting teams, they have not faced many of them, Oakland excepted. Blue Jays and Oriole may expose some of the issues with the pitching, especially the 2nd time around. Of course, sometimes its not who you play but when you play them. Blue Jays have cooled off a bit.

  6. yankfan1 June 15th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    I think its time to consider transition Warren back into the rotation, as good as hes been in the pen, the Yankees have plenty of bullpen options.

  7. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Just logged on… sorry if this has been posted earlier but Yankees considering non tendering Pineda after 2014?

    http://www.sportsmedia101.com/.....on-report/

  8. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Pete-

    I have to believe the Yankees are looking around behind the scenes.

    CC is pretty far off.

  9. Hankflorida June 15th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Pete, the Jays may expose the starting pitching and there are replacements sitting in the pen, but if they outslug the band of banjos, there are definely no replacements.

  10. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    All I can say about that Glenn is WOW !

    :shock:

  11. austinmac June 15th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    They need a bat and quality starter. I’m sure they are well aware of that. Refsnyder is hitting .118 at SWB. Pirela? Almonte? I have my doubts they are good answers, but that’s it from within.

    Samardzija is being made available, but unless the Cubs really like Sanchez, I don’t see a possibility. I note Sanchez didn’t play again.

    I wonder if Warren is soon a starter. He worked two today.

  12. Missing Cano June 15th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Girardi and company got too cute thought the pen can cover all mistakes

  13. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Price, The Shark, and Hammels will likely be available.

    Lee is just now getting healthy.

    Probably can’t get Price.

    Shark and Hammels will likely cost a lot.

    Not even sure we’d want Lee.

  14. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Mac-

    Will take a while to get Warren stretched out again.

    Also, that will give us a rotation 100% righties.

  15. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Not even sure we’d want Lee.

    —————

    shhh! keep your voice down.., blake may hear you :)

  16. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Just curious any converts yet to the why not start Betances bandwagon? Anybody wavering??

    I have been saying all along they have nothing to lose and everything to gain…. nothing has changed IMO

  17. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Why stretch out Warren and Not Betances? :mad:

  18. austinmac June 15th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    MTU,

    You are right on both counts. Who’s available in trade? The upper level pitcher have been pretty poor. Bleich has, I think, one AAA start and gave up four runs in six innings.

  19. austinmac June 15th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Tar,

    I’m weakening. We are moving toward the why not place. He may well be the best option. But, I don’t think Girardi will consider it based upon what he always says.

  20. austinmac June 15th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    I read Lee won’t be game ready before the TD. He is not an option until August, waiver wire time.

  21. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Tar – I have not wavered from my position (which is firmly on the fence :) )… seriously, I can see both sides – Betances’ stuff as a starter is tantalizing but what are the chances for his success? I seriously doubt the Yankees will try to convert him this year but either way you won’t hear me moaning

  22. Pat M. June 15th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Love to have Lee, Yanks can’t match up with the talent that The LA Dodgers have on the table…..Yanks still have an eye on Starlin Castro as they’re keeping tabs on him..Rotation help or line-up help, what area do you spend your limited chips on ???? Or do you do avoid any major trade that costs unless it’s a long term investment ??? Or will Hal and Company offset that by taking on money ( which I’d rather see them do )

  23. pete22 June 15th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    MTU June 15th, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Pete-

    I have to believe the Yankees are looking around behind the scenes.

    CC is pretty far off.
    ======================

    Not sure what there is available on the LHP’er front that’s much better than they have. Price if the Rays could be persuaded to deal with a rival. Cubs have a certain RHP’er we all know of. Both will cost heavily in terms of prospects.

    I feel offense is the biggest concern though. Betances to the rotation is intriguing, but they seem disinclined to try that. ManBam does not look like an option this year. Maybe Ichiro :lol:

  24. austinmac June 15th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Pat,

    I think the biggest need is an offensive player in the infield. Castro would be wonderful. Put him at second. I’d take anyone with power secondarily.

  25. Missing Cano June 15th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    he LA Dodgers have on the table

    Joc’s been terrible as of late just awful just absolutely awful his strikeouts are a real concern Dodgers greatest value is to assume money contracts

  26. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Snakes might have some people we could look at.

    ;)

  27. Hankflorida June 15th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Tar June 15th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
    Why stretch out Warren and Not Betances?

    Why not! And soon before the curtain come down and it is too late. This team need the starters to keep them in the game. “Spahn and Sain and two days of rain” can give way to Tanaka and Betances and three days of keeping our fingers crossed.

  28. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Mac

    i’ll take weakening :D . And yeah I doubt the Yankees and Girardi have the …. to do it.

  29. mick June 15th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Never nervous Sulk a lot ay.

  30. pete22 June 15th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Just logged on… sorry if this has been posted earlier but Yankees considering non tendering Pineda after 2014?

    ===================

    I doubt that happens unless the labrum has been reinjured and Pineda might be looking at more surgery. His cost is minimal, and even if he needs another 60 day DL stint to start next season he would not even be taking up a roster spot.

    Maybe Pineda has been too cautious in his rehab and they are trying to scare him, otherwise I dont understand the story at all

  31. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    ““Spahn and Sain and two days of rain” can give way to Tanaka and Betances and three days of keeping our fingers crossed.”

    Betances has the potential to make the rest of the staff better by just taking off the pressure off. Kind of like the effect of what happens when adding Alex or a similar good hitter to the line-up.

    Anyway count me in Hank. There aren’t many of us but we are strong willed. :D

  32. Madrugador June 15th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    Don’t know who needs to be the next starter but Nuno is not the guy. Pitch Warren multiple innings every fifth day with Nuno, send Warren to Scranton around the AS break and bring him in as a starter end of July. Nuno to the pen as a lefty long man.
    I am not enamored with Betances in the rotation but recognize it may come to that. Don;t think anyone is going to give up front line starters cheaply.

  33. UnKnown June 15th, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    Hmmm if only we had a dominant pitcher on the team that used to be a starter and could go back into that roll.

    Boy wouldn’t that be great!! :cool:

  34. bruceb June 15th, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Where’s Wandy Rodriguez when you need him?

  35. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Yeah I don’t put much credence in that article on Pineda.

    But mentioning credence deserves a tune.

    http://vimeo.com/4799295

    There are no easy answers…….

  36. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West June 15th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Oy, what a disaster – Nuno looked like crap in the bullpen too. While warming up for the game he threw two balls into the outfield. There’s got to be better

    Im really getting tired of McCann’t, struck out looking twice today. Can i say this, I really really dsilike Kelly Johnson. If we’re going to play this bad, i would rather watch the guys from triple A stink it up.

  37. hornblower June 15th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    A loss is just that but embarrassing is not the word to use. Teams lose games by big scores all the time.

  38. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Pete-

    The Yankees have invested a lot of time and effort w Pineda.

    They basically “babied” him for 2 yrs.

    And now after all that lost time and energy he comes back dummies out w the pine tar and then re-injures himself.

    Maybe the Yankees feel like if he can’t show them something they want to cut their losses and move on.

    Labrum injuries are notoriously tricky.

    Getting healthy is not a problem.

    Staying healthy is.

    The Yankees need someone they can count on.

    Pineda needs to show them that.

  39. bruceb June 15th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Talking of credence (clearwater revival), perhaps Oakland’s relief pitcher Fernando should enter to the tune of Abad Moon Rising?

  40. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Tar – great song

  41. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Chicken lots of memories with that song. Makes me think of Tom and GB and a whole crazy generation.

    Bruce

    Bad moon rising over 18 million hits…….. amazing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE&feature=kp

  42. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    It’s not Ivan’s fault but I bet the Yankees are not too happy about what has happened to him.

    Basically another lost 2 yrs.

    Nova will be 29 when he starts being truly effective again.

    Lot’s of high maintenance and bad luck.

  43. Missing Cano June 15th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    michelle thanks again for the post how long do you think it will take to transition Betances to the rotation?

  44. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Chicken I have moved on to Motown…… are you a fan?

  45. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West June 15th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    MTU –

    wishing the yankess traded Nova when they had the chance – cano and granderson too – but i digress. With Nova, at least we know what we’re going to get when he comes back. A 3 or 4 in the rotation which is better than the 3/4 we have now. Watching mighty mouse (nuno) pitch every 5 days is making me go grey prematurely.

    I wouldnt mind watching Bentances pitch as a starter, but i dont want to see Joba Redux or Hughes Redux. The yankess have to figure out where Dellin helps them the most and then stick with it.

    And for god sake’s fire kevin long. He’s worthless. This team needs to be more patient – foul more balls off and stop looking at the 3rd strike.

  46. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    It is not an easy thing to develop young starters.

    Cases in point, Ivan Nova and Michael Pineda.

    We are awfully lucky we got our hands on a polished diamond like Masahiro.

    :)

  47. tomingeorgia June 15th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    “There’s a bathroom on the right!”

  48. Madrugador June 15th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Warning: Going to show some ignorance now…

    So if the Yankees non-tender Pineda, that means he becomes a free agent and the team would do that because they would not want to have to go to arbitration with Pineda because they would be thinking it would cost them too much money?

    How miuch could Pineda realistically expect to get through arbitration? The guy has basically not pitched since his rookie year.

  49. ac1 June 15th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    I agree they need to either stretch Warren or Betances….
    Nuno is not doing the job and it is easier to replace the bullpen arm.

    I just do not want them to give up our future to get Jeff Z or someone else…

  50. Hankflorida June 15th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Tar, we all want the Yankee to stay in the race as the “September Song” so aptly says, ” As the days dwindle down to a precious few.” I am here in NY for the summer months and would love to spend some time watching and attending games that have meaning and hope the team goes further then last year in watching the Yankees compete with those other teams even it comes down to the 2nd Wildcard. This band of banjos can win if the games are close, and it all depends on the starters keeping the team in the game. The game of out slugging the opposition is of another era as “It is gone with the wind.”

  51. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Tar – my music tastes are very eclectic.. I like a lot of different types of music. One of my favorite motown artists:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CFuCYNx-1g

  52. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    If my choice is between Warren and Betances I favor stretching out Warren at the moment.

    But I have to say I am really curious to know if Betances could be effective in a starting role.

    If he could, he would be a real weapon.

    So there’s that.

    ;)

  53. chicken_stanley June 15th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Technically not Motown but another of my favorites:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzDVaKRApcg

  54. Jarak June 15th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Nuno 4.27 era previous ten starts. Fine for a number 5. Has had 3 really bad starts this season that have killed his era.

  55. pete22 June 15th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Madrugador June 15th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Warning: Going to show some ignorance now…

    So if the Yankees non-tender Pineda, that means he becomes a free agent and the team would do that because they would not want to have to go to arbitration with Pineda because they would be thinking it would cost them too much money?

    How miuch could Pineda realistically expect to get through arbitration? The guy has basically not pitched since his rookie year.
    =========================

    Can’t imagine him getting more than 1 million. They look at all 3-4 years, but he only pitched 1 and change thus far. Money can’t be the issue. I doubt this is true. Only way I see him getting non-tendered is if he needs more surgery

  56. Jarak June 15th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Nuno 4.27 era his previous ten starts. Fine for a number 5. Has had 3 really bad starts this year killing his era

  57. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Pete-

    Another reason would be if they just don’t think he can stay healthy.

    Spending significant time on the DL is a real danger after labrum surgery.

    A Team needs their starters to be consistent and provide innings and to be able to be counted upon.

    Frequent trips to the DL preclude that possibility.

    It’s a determination that needs to be made.

  58. Jarak June 15th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Betances is a two pitch pitcher = not a starter

  59. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    CHicken

    Nice. :D I’m listening to Stevie…. how about some Al Green

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4&feature=kp

  60. bruceb June 15th, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Jackie Wilson…now you’re talking. I get the sweetest feeling (one of my all-time faves).

  61. Tar June 15th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    Betances is a two pitch pitcher = not a starter”

    You get an F= failing grade. Go back and do your homework

  62. MTU June 15th, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    New post ——–>

  63. Madrugador June 15th, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    I’d have to think that if Pineda needed more surgery, he’d be done and then the non tender is a non brainer.

  64. Missing Cano June 15th, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Girardi and Cashman constructed the team backwards from pen forward right now need to solidify the 5 front starters then work your way to the setup crew you do not waste your talent in the middle relief it is a recipe for being ordinary to below average

  65. Michelle B. of Yankee Stadium West June 15th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    MTU –

    this DL trip is not related to his prior shoulder injury – i think it’s more freak than anything else. but i dont know his history while in seattle and too lazy to look it up. But, If Pineda can come back and be a serviceable 3 or 4 along with CC – Masahiro – and maybe lester next year. The rotation will be very very good.

  66. pete22 June 15th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    I wonder if the Dodgers would consider trading Josh Beckett who is having a nice year and in his walk year. They could use some production from the C spot.

  67. Pat M. June 15th, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    I think folks should go back and look at what Pineda was doing before the flare-up in the shoulder. Clubs would be lining up with their checkbook open to sign him if the Yanks cut him loose. Sheer nonsense from some fish wrapper hack

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