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Yankees pregame: Cervelli back, Murphy down

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John Ryan MurphyJohn Ryan Murphy has been sent down to Triple-A and Francisco Cervelli has been activated from the DL, not just to be the backup catcher, but again to possibly be one of the backups for Mark Teixeira. When Cervelli hurt his hamstring back in mid-April, it was a game in which he started at first base. Two of his five starts in April were at first.

Joe Girardi said a choice between Kelly Johnson and Cervelli would come down to matchups.

“I think I’m comfortable there,” Cervelli said. “But I don’t want to forget about catching. That’s what I like, but I want to help any way I can.”

This has been the second straight season Cervelli has missed a huge chunk of time. He said he stayed positive these last two months.

“It’s frustrating,” Cervelli said. “But this time I took it differently. … I spent time with my dad. I recovered so fast before the 60 days.”

John Ryan Murphy got sent down to Triple-A to make room. He hit .286 with one homer and eight RBI in 24 games.

“He played extremely well,” Girardi said. “Obviously we were pleased with what he did. … We think it’s important for him to go play every day.”

CC Sabathia threw a 25-pitch bullpen yesterday and will have another session out there tomorrow. Joe Girardi compared this to the beginning of spring training for him.

Michael Pineda, who was shut down after his setback, is scheduled to play catch Saturday.

Rotation fill-in Vidal Nuno is 1-3 with a 5.90 ERA. Adam Warren has been mentioned as a possible replacement. But the reliever would have to be stretched out. Girardi said Warren could probably only go up to about 50 pitches now.

“We’ll continue to evaluate our staff and decide what we’re going to do,” Girardi said.

Tonight it appears the ball is in good hands. It’s Masahiro Tanaka time.

“Obviously Tanaka is the best pitcher on the planet,” Sabathia said.

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52 Responses to “Yankees pregame: Cervelli back, Murphy down”

  1. Jerkface June 17th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    JF – Pat asked if the NPB agreement with MLB and the posting system is decided on an annual basis or if this is a 3-year agreement or something?

    Current system is 3 years then year to year after that where NPB can terminate it and renegotiate.

  2. Chip June 17th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Jerkface June 17th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    I think pete posted an article showing that the kind of injury Pineda sustained can be connected to labrum injuries, because the shoulder doesnt work like it used to and the new added strain on the other muscles in the shoulder area can cause injuries.

    So I assume Pineda will rarely be healthy going forward.
    ———————

    Possible. Or the other muscles that are now in use will build up as he continues to move away from the original injury.

    I know when I blew out my knee I was constantly getting muscle strains in my calf and thigh for a while after, even after the rehab. After a while I learned what I needed to do differently to take care of my legs and since then I haven’t had problems with the muscles.

    I’m not a major league pitcher, so it’s not exactly apples to apples – but I also didn’t have the kinds of trainers and time to dedicate to a rehab program that Michael does.

  3. Shame Spencer June 17th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    bigdan22 June 17th, 2014 at 4:54 pm
    I’d be very surprised in Arod ever plays a game at 1b unless it’s some type of emergency thing.

    ————

    And I’d be very surprised if we have a competitive team with Arod as our everyday 3B through 2017 lol.

    I hope they get an amazing SS and 2B making Tex and Alex on the corners something you can live with. And also some crazy power bat for RF that can also play there, unlike our current power options. But that would take a lot of…. stuff. I dunno that they can do it.

    The best player on the market this off season will probably be a 3B.

  4. Shame Spencer June 17th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Current system is 3 years then year to year after that where NPB can terminate it and renegotiate.

    ———-

    Thank you!

  5. MTU June 17th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Chip-

    That is possible but there is lot involved.

    And Pineda is going to have to be more fortunate than most.

    Guess it doesn’t hurt to hope for that.

    But the Yankee brass have to be watching very closely and asking themselves certain questions.

    ;)

  6. MTU June 17th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    I have to hit the bricks soon.

    I’ll try to check in later.

  7. Chip June 17th, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Rotation fill-in Vidal Nuno is 1-3 with a 5.90 ERA. Adam Warren has been mentioned as a possible replacement. But the reliever would have to be stretched out. Girardi said Warren could probably only go up to about 50 pitches now.

    “We’ll continue to evaluate our staff and decide what we’re going to do,” Girardi said.

    So send him to Scranton, call up Claiborne or Daley and let Warren start pitching now. The sooner you get him stretched out the sooner you can replace Nuno as opposed to running Nuno out there, letting him get shelled and then having to throw Warren into ML games to stretch out.

    I get that the Yankees don’t like to appear reactionary – but there’s a difference between reacting and overreacting. Overreacting would be promoting Man Ban, reacting is sending the guy who was your #6 starter out to get stretched out to replace your #7 starter.

    Overreacting would be dealing the entire farm system for Chase Utley. Promoting a young player who is putting up good numbers to replace a struggling veteran at the end of his career is just reacting.

  8. Shame Spencer June 17th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    I dunno that signing Utley would be an overreaction.. but I’m of the assumption he’d cost mostly money. Depending on the deal, I’d take him for sure. Your INF is instantly better and has a little more depth…

    And it means I don’t need to complain about Roberts anymore.

  9. bigdan22 June 17th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    If we were looking into our crystal balls, I would say Mason may have more of a chance to be playing in MLB than Solarte in three years.

    ——-

    I put Williams’ odds of having a ML career at about 45% which is super high. The only Yankee prospects I would give equal or better odds to now are Almonte and Refsynder. William’s odds as a starter I think are around 20%. I put Refsynder chances of being a starter at 50% which is very very high and by far the highest in the organization.

    Solarte’s odds are impossible to handicap because he’s already broken just about every rule the book.

  10. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    The Tanaka games sure seem like must wins. In reality, very few pitchers in the history of baseball have won half their games started. I don’t even want to think about what the feeling would be if the team loses his game.

    It looks as if Solarte has been relegated to sub duty. Folks assigning him a starting role next year jumped the gun. Nothing in his minor league history suggests anything more than, at best, an average player.

  11. Warning Track Power June 17th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Interesting to think about the Warren for Nuno switch.
    I am not totally opposed to the idea only because Nuno stinks and our bullpen
    right now is a strength.
    Since Betances is so great and Kelley has returned, maybe the team can afford to lose
    Warren temporarily to the starting rotation.
    After all, Warren can’t be as bad as Nuno has been.
    My #1 concern would be stretching out Warren and then having to return him to the pen once
    C.C. or Pineda is ready to go in about 5 weeks.

  12. bigdan22 June 17th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    I’ve long supported Warren being in the rotation and he’d def be an upgrade over Nuno. But I’m not sure the time is right. I don’t think the bullpen is deep enough now to lose Warren. I wish Ramirez were pitching better. Maybe Claiborne, but I don’t think much of his stuff.

    It’s a close call really.

  13. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    Chip,

    I completely agree on Nuno. He isn’t slumping. This is who he is. Why wait when your eyes and the stat sheet tell you he is very marginal.

  14. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    1) Let Solarte sit a while and see what effect it has.
    Give Johnson a shot at the porch and see what he has.
    That was the original plan and Girardi likes to play fair .

    2) Nobody cares that Montero hit a HR.

    3) Tankees has been around for quite some time.
    It’s what Yankee haters call us since 2004.

  15. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    4) Warren is next up.
    As soon as Kelley shows some life.

  16. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Just like we jumped the gun on Solarte, we need to temper expectations of Whitley. He was a good reliever in the minors and pitched pretty well in the short term as a starter. He has okay stuff and can throw three pitches for strikes. That can succeed, but before assigning him a spot when a pitcher theoretically comes back in a month, let’s see him some more.

    I always so myself, what would be my evaluation if he played on another team. I think I would say, he has a chance to be a no.3 or 4 starter, but he still have much to prove.

  17. Madrugador June 17th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    Sorry to see JR sent back to AAA. Sure hope he sticks around.

    Solarte as an average player who can field at 2nd, 3rd and in a pinch at SS seems like a valuable utlity guy to have around.

    Time to brave the traffic. Been a little tougher with the 495 bridge out. Let’s see how my luck is running today.

    Go Tankees!

  18. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Solarte broke every rule for three weeks. Since then, he has been average. One must look at career history. Almost no players, except Cubans or Japanese, come to the big leagues at 26 and have good careers. I still would rather see him than Roberts for at least a while longer.

  19. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    We should let Warren pitch more than 1-2 innings. For example, he could easily have gone three his last game.

  20. blake June 17th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    I think they should at least see this thing through with Solarte and see if he will get it going again…..they have no other options and they might as well.

  21. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    Johnson deserves at least a week to show if he’s got anything to give.
    This is Joe’s chance to do it, as is his wont.

  22. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    The Charleston manager compared Judge to Stanton, not only in his size but also his hands. Let the hopes and prayers make that true.

  23. Warning Track Power June 17th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    blake June 17th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
    I think they should at least see this thing through with Solarte and see if he will get it going again…..they have no other options and they might as well.
    ————————————————————————————————
    Exactly
    The team chose him over Nunie. Doesn’t make sense to give up on Solarte so early in June.
    Give the kid a chance. Sit him down for a game if needed. Show him the team has confidence because as soon as his confidence wavers, then the kid really is in trouble.

  24. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    Johnson deserves a shot.
    Solarte is streaky.
    Let him sit a bit and see how he reacts when/if his time comes .
    Let’s see if Johnson can get hot with regular play.

  25. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    Johnson will probably sit against leftys anyway.

  26. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Well, if the clock has indeed struck midnight on Solarte, he certainly gave the Yanks more lightning in that bottle than they could have ever imagined.

    It’s HOT here in the suburbs of Chicago (95 degrees) and I have a game of my own tonight.

    Ball should be flying outta here too.

  27. pete22 June 17th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    The matchup tonight seems idea. Tanaka vs Stromans 5.18 ERA.

    Blue Jays have lost 6 of 10 and averaged 2.3 RPG over these 10 games, so the bats have cooled off. Good chance to pick up a game or two this series

  28. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    GF,

    I sure had a wonderful time in your city last month. You may return to the board later and tell is of your power exploits. Sadly, I left mine in the 1970s.

  29. pete22 June 17th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    I would not count Solarte out yet GF. I think expectations got a bit high as a result of his hot start, but from what I can see he is still a decent hitter, perhaps above league average. Good contact skills and plate discipline. He has also hit much better at home (837 OPS vs 715) and against RHP’ers (840 OPS vs 627)

    I wonder if he might have got a bit HR happy, which does not play as well on the road

  30. mick June 17th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Stroman is a hometown boy and will have his entourage at the game.

  31. hardwired7 June 17th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    I love Solarte’s Reggie-esque swing from the left side . Who wouldn’t want to swing like Reggie Jackson? Swinging from your heels, back knee on the ground the only thing left keeping you from completely spinning out.

    He always looked like he was about to hit the next pitch out of the stadium.

  32. Ys Guy June 17th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Welcome back Franco!

  33. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    GF,

    I sure had a wonderful time in your city last month. You may return to the board later and tell is of your power exploits. Sadly, I left mine in the 1970s.

    —–

    Glad to hear you had a good time out here.

    Power is one of the few attributes I actually do have in my arsenal. Strong arm (at least among a bunch of old guys) and strong legs.

    But it’s all downhill from there.

    Not much speed. I’ve never been a strong runner. I can run all day long for distance but Jose Molina would probably annihilate me in a 50 yd dash.

    Just a reason for a bunch of old guys to relive our little league and high school days. The only difference is now we can all drink LEGALLY after the game.

  34. Hankflorida June 17th, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    If Solarte can play 2nd and hit like Bobby Richardson, he would be fine, but if the outfield is void of power like tonight, the infield has to have some more pop and Johnson has more then warning track power. Solarte did connect for the long ball but it looked like he was going to come out of his shoes.

  35. blake June 17th, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    I think the Yankees have this idea of how good a “Yankee”‘should be……and if a youngster doesn’t measure up to that pretty quickly they get anysty…..then put a guy in there that used to be good enough but who hasn’t been in 5 years. This seems to be the pattern

  36. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    pete22 June 17th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    I would not count Solarte out yet GF. I think expectations got a bit high as a result of his hot start, but from what I can see he is still a decent hitter, perhaps above league average. Good contact skills and plate discipline. He has also hit much better at home (837 OPS vs 715) and against RHP’ers (840 OPS vs 627)

    I wonder if he might have got a bit HR happy, which does not play as well on the road

    —–

    I’ve always thought Solarte was playing on borrowed time so any production they got from him this season was gravy.

    Whether this is it for him or not, I’d still rather see him out there than Johnson or anyone else they dig up.

  37. Jerkface June 17th, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Until the Yankees make a trade I’d like to see Johnson & Solarte in the lineup. Vs righties at least. Roberts can sub in vs lefties I guess for Johnson.

  38. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Thanks, Ys Guy.

  39. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    GF,

    I was the best hitter and the best pitcher in my little league. Surely, the best 12 year old in my 7,500 population town was destined for a great career. Not so much. But, what a great time of life.

  40. Warning Track Power June 17th, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    Let’s go Tanaka. Lead the team to another win tonight vs the Jays

    LET’S GO YANKEES
    LET’S GO YANKEES
    LET’S GO YANKEES

    DEREK JETER
    DEREK JETER
    DEREK JETER

  41. MTU June 17th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Damn shame if the Yankees give up on Solarte this quickly after all he has given them thus far.

    I hope that won’t be the case.

    The kid has earned more than a “what have you done for me lately ?”.

    He deserves some more time FWIS.

  42. Doreen June 17th, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Crazy week, so I feel like I’m flipping in and out of Yankee stuff.

    I knew they were going to send Murph down. I don’t like it. I guess I understand it. I still don’t like it.

    MTU, as I’m typing this your post is right above, what happened with Solarte besides not being in the lineup? You gotta give these guys some room to slump. People used to understand slumps. Not so much anymore. Is it the salaries? Is it wanting instant gratification? Is it unrealistic expectations?

    Anyway – Hope Tanaka gets some support tonight.

  43. bbb51 June 17th, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Sitting one or two games does not mean they’ve given up on Solarte.

  44. Doreen June 17th, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Just read the quote by CC. “Obviously Tanaka is the best pitcher on the planet.” Love it. :)

    And NO! to Chase Utley. ;)

  45. MTU June 17th, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Got to run.

    Going to try streaming the game tonight and need to get set up.

    Enjoy the game folks.

    :)

  46. JimK June 17th, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Mac, Whitley is exactly the type of Y’s prospect who has the best chance of succeeding with the team; he came up w/o any expectations, much like Wang and Cano, neither of who arrived w/o much fanfare.
    I know, based on his extremely SSS, it is far too early to say to determine Whitley’s future potential, but as I posted once before, the most impressive part of Whitley’s game is his willingness to pitch inside, where, to me at least, he resembles a young version of the “older” reinvented Mike Mussina.
    Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but I would much rather watch a young talent develop than wait for an established veteran to live up to the “back of his BB card,” which as we all know there will come a time when most veterans will fail to live up to past expectations.
    Note: I do not understand sitting Solarte tonight; I know he is in a slump, but he has hit better @ YS, and as a LH hitter.

  47. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Samardzija is in talks with the cubs about an extension. Suits me. We are not getting him, and I’d rather someone like the Jays didn’t.

  48. JimK June 17th, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    I had a pretty good feeling that after Murphy allowed 3 passed balls in two games, that once Cervelli was ready to play, the Y’s were not going to carry 3 Catchers.

  49. austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Jim,

    I have hopes for Whitley, but he has only had a few starts. So far, so good.

    Murphy was slumping a bit and struggling defensively. I wonder if he was pressing as Cervelli got closer to being ready. These guys are people and are subject to stresses and pressures like the rest of us.

  50. blake June 17th, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    austinmac says:
    June 17, 2014 at 6:50 pm
    Samardzija is in talks with the cubs about an extension. Suits me. We are not getting him, and I’d rather someone like the Jays didn’t.

    Agreed….we can’t get him so id rather him just stay in Chicago

  51. Giuseppe Franco June 17th, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    I think Murphy was going to be sent down when Cervelli returned no matter how he was playing.

    We’ve seen this movie in recent years over and over again.

  52. tbone1570 June 17th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    austinmac June 17th, 2014 at 6:57 pm
    Jim,

    These guys are people and are subject to stresses and pressures like the rest of us.
    ————
    This is easily forgotten here.

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