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Postgame notes: “This is what we have”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 21, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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With 60 percent of their supposed-to-be starting pitchers on the disabled list since early May, the Yankees rotation has actually held together pretty well. Masahiro Tanaka has been the best starter in the American League, Chase Whitley has been a revelation, and both David Phelps and Hiroki Kuroda have been perfectly solid (and occasionally terrific). The Yankees have essentially a league-average rotation ERA, which is pretty good all things considered.

But the fact Vidal Nuno is going to make his next start seems to be an indication that the Yankees believe they have run out of alternatives.

“This is what we have,” manager Joe Girardi said. “It’s not like there’s just starting pitchers lying around out there. We’ve talked about that, and our guys have done a pretty good job. They really have. He’ll continue to go out there and compete and we’ll do the best we can.”

Today’s three home run disappointment was hardly Nuno’s worst start of the year — and as Girardi pointed out, four earned runs in 6.1 innings is perfectly winable some nights — but it’s part of a pattern that’s so far exposed Nuno as the weak link in a pieced together rotation. He has a 5.88 ERA, the Yankees have lost six of his past eight starts, and Nuno hasn’t gotten a win since May 7. He’s been especially bad at home, where he’s allowed 13 of his 15 total home runs this season.

“The second and third time around, they get the feel for (the fastball) or stuff like that,” Nuno said. “And then sometimes I leave it up a little bit and they take advantage of it. Yeah, it’s frustrating just knowing that I’m not getting the job done, but overall how I see my stuff today is improvement of my other starts.”

Alternatives exist, but each comes with its own concerns and complications.

BanuelosWarren1. Adam Warren is perhaps the best solution, but he’s not stretched out, and getting him stretched out would take time and cost the Yankees a valuable setup man (at a time when Shawn Kelley seems unreliable since coming off the disabled list. Another major league reliever, Jose Ramirez, is also not stretched out and was converted to a reliever this year because of injury concerns.
2. Shane Greene has a 5.77 ERA and 1.80 WHIP in Triple-A and has been unable to build on last year’s breakout season in Double-A. Another 40-man prospect, Bryan Mitchell, has been similarly unimpressive in Double-A (he was just bumped to Triple-A despite back-to-back five-run starts with Trenton).
3. Manny Banuelos is surely the Yankees most highly touted upper-level pitching prospect, but he’s been limited to three innings at a time in his first year back from Tommy John surgery. Also, reports out of Trenton have not been particularly encouraging.
4. Minor league veterans Bruce Billings and Alfredo Aceves have not been overly impressive (Aceves was just DFA and cleared waivers). Other experienced veterans Brian Gordon and Chris Leroux have been released and placed on the disabled list respectively.
5. Current long man David Huff has made six major league starts in the past three years, has thrown more than 38 pitches only once this season, and has a 5.63 season ERA that’s only slightly lower than Nuno’s.

For now, the Yankees seem prepared to stick with Nuno, while waiting for either a trade or an injury recovery.

“Right now this is our rotation and this is what it will be,” Girardi said. “We’ll just continue to plow forward, and hopefully (CC Sabathia and Michael Pineda’s) rehabs get going and you get some guys off the DL that are coming back. But right now, this is what it is.”

Orioles Yankees Baseball• Mentioned it on Twitter earlier, but it’s worth posting here as well: Pineda’s MRI revealed lingering inflammation in that muscle near his right shoulder. He was supposed to play catch today, but that’s been pushed back a week. “He’s still has a trace of inflammation,” Girardi said. “So they’ll give him one more week off and he’ll start throwing next Saturday.”

• This was Nuno’s second three-homer game of the season. He also allowed three home runs May 30 against Oakland (also at Yankee Stadium). “When he makes mistakes, they’re hitting it out of the ballpark,” Girardi said. “He’s somewhat of a fly ball pitcher, in a sense, so when you make mistakes up in the middle of the zone, it’s probably going to leave the park here.”

• If there’s a Nuno bright side, I suppose it’s the fact he hasn’t walked a ton of guys. He has 29 strikeouts and seven walks in his past seven starts. In those save seven starts, he’s allowed 10 home runs.

• Nuno said that today’s problem was his fastball. He said it wasn’t that he went to it too often, it was that he didn’t locate it when he had to. “Just leaving it in certain spots,” he said. “If they see a fastball, this is a fastball hitting team. I try to sneak it by them and try to come up or go away with it, and pretty much these porches are short, and it’s part of the game that’s frustrating at times. When they get the ball up in the air, they have a chance to get it out.”

• This isn’t unusual for a young starter, but Nuno said that he considers his job to be on the line “every time, every inning.” Does that weigh on him? Is that affecting his outings? “No, you guys make it (seem that way),” Nuno said. “You guys make it (seem) that it is. I go out there and always have fun, always try to give my all, and the outcome is sometimes not positive. But how I see it at the end of the day, I trust all the pitches and I trust the catchers that throw the signs. I’m throwing with conviction and, pretty much, I’m going to get there. But this is the big leagues, and pretty much when you leave something a little bit up, a tick off, they’re going to hit it. And sometimes they’re going to hit it far and hit a home run.”

Orioles Yankees Baseball• Jacoby Ellsbury went 1-for-3 with a walk and has hit safely in 21 of his past 24 games since May 26, batting .319 with a .390 on-base percentage during that stretch.

• This was Francisco Cervelli’s first start since April 13 when he hurt his hamstring. He was 1-for-3, singling in his first at-bat for his first hit since April 8 (also against Baltimore).

• Brian Roberts went 2-for-4 and is batting .350 with three runs, three walks and a .435 on-base percentage in his past six games.

• Mark Teixeira’s solo homer was his 150th as a Yankees. He’s homered 12 times this season, which is the most on the team. He now has a 10-game hitting streak, which is his longest since hitting in 12 straight in 2010.

• I’ll post more about this later tonight, but the Yankees honored Tino Martinez with a Monument Park plaque prior to today’s game. The text of Martinez’s plaque: Known for his powerful bat and superlative defense at first base, Martinez was a fan favorite on four Yankees world championship teams. Hit two of the most memorable home runs in Yankees postseason history – a grand slam in Game 1 of the 1998 World Series and a game-tying, ninth-inning homer in Game 4 of the 2001 Fall Classic. Amassed 192 home runs and 739 RBI in seven seasons with the club.

• Don’t forget tomorrow is Old-Timers’ Day. Ceremonies begin at 11:30 a.m.

• Final word goes to Girardi: “You never want to lose, that’s the bottom line. That’s why we play the game. But you know you’re going to have games like this. We still have a chance to win the series, and that’s your goal going in, so you go into tomorrow with a positive attitude.”

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117 Responses to “Postgame notes: “This is what we have””

  1. mick June 21st, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    I’d give Huff the start and let Nunie long relief.
    Have Jram ready.

  2. mick June 21st, 2014 at 6:19 pm


    Today’s game thread is the lowest in the history of Lowhud.
    As for your over/under vs Boston, that’s an easy Over.
    Also, Nunie will not be going as there is a day off the day before that game allowing them to skip his turn.

  3. hardwired7 June 21st, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    “… so you go into tomorrow with a positive attitude.”

    Well, with Tanaka going tomorrow that’s a given. His starts are must-wins if the Yanks want to stay in the race, and the man just continues to produce.

  4. austinmac June 21st, 2014 at 6:24 pm


    People get mad with negative comments and today’s game had few positives.

  5. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:25 pm


    How does a post that lists Yankee SP alternatives not include Dellin Betances?

    Has he become such a incredibly important BP piece, that the Yankees can’t fathom winning games without seeing him pitch every two days?

    Or is it more of that tired, poorly thought out, “failed starter” argument?

    Why a team that desperately needs another front line starter…….. would value a lights out reliever over a possible #2, I just can’t figure out.

  6. Chad Jennings June 21st, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:25 pm e


    How does a post that lists Yankee SP alternatives not include Dellin Betances?

    Thought about mentioning him, but it seems like a waste of time. I don’t have any indication that the Yankees considering him a rotation option at this point. Even Betances doesn’t seem to want it. I understand the hopeful desire, but I don’t think it’s anywhere close to realistic possibility.

  7. Chad Jennings June 21st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    And I don’t think it has anything to do with valuing a reliever over a starter. I think it’s everything to do with believing Betances has finally found a way to be consistent and productive.

  8. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Betances is in the bullpen, where he belongs. I thought Warren starting was a good idea, but we need him in the bullpen too, and for now, should stay in there.

    Betances was a failed starter, absolutely terrible in his later years in the minors. They moved him to the bullpen, and instantly he was a better pitcher. His two pitches and his overall makeup make for a very good reliever. He just hasn’t proven to be a valuable starter. The Yankees are going to throw away starts by giving him only 4 innings.

    Sure, I think he can throw 4 innings and get 10 strikeouts, but can he pitch 6-7 innings consistently later on? I’m not sure he can, effectively.

    I thought we’ve seen the last of Pineda this year, and some may disagree, but this “lingering” inflammation isn’t going to just vanish completely in a week. I am just waiting for his upcoming bullpen section to come, to find out he needs another MRI due to pain and inflammation. It’s déjà vu.

  9. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Ok maybe a better question is why the Yankees don’t consider him a rotation option? Or why is Warren a better SP option?

  10. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Betances can’t pitch to AAA hitters consistently, yet somehow he is able to pitch to MLB hitter? Sure, that’s a poor thought out argument. That’s the only argument that is needed.

  11. Hankflorida June 21st, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    The Bronx Banjos seem to need HR’s to score just like the Baltimore Bombers. This team was supposed to be balanced unlike our teams of the past and was built to keep the wheel turning. I would keep Soriano and Johnson in the lineup and hope to get some of the Bronx Bomber reputation back on track.

  12. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    “I think it’s everything to do with believing Betances has finally found a way to be consistent and productive.”

    Why is his new found success just a by product of his role, and not his changed mechanics?

  13. Giuseppe Franco June 21st, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    The Yanks have simply decided that Betances is not a starting pitcher so they don’t have any intention of letting him get another shot.

    I think he should eventually get another opportunity but they don’t.

  14. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Look at Warren’s minor league numbers as a starter. If he weren’t in the majors this year, he would be in the starting rotation in the minors. He has been very successful in the minors. You can’t even compare either of their numbers. I trust Betances over Warren in the pen, and Warren over Betances in th starting rotation. It’s just how it is. Baseball is a strange sport with many things that can’t be explained with common knowledge.

  15. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    “Betances can’t pitch to AAA hitters consistently, yet somehow he is able to pitch to MLB hitter?

    Exhibit A of a poorly thought out and researched argument.

  16. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    I don’t think I’ve read anywhere that he changed mechanics.

    But sure, that could be the ONLY thing possible going for him.

    As a reliever he can throw harder right away, he dropped his change up, stuck to his best pitches, and just his numbers immediately before and after the move. There’s a very small chance, in my opinion, that his bullpen success is due to his mechanics. Like I said, it is possible, just not likely. Warren is a much better overall option.

    Betances would give us a better chance over Nuno, but I believe he is just that much more valuable in the pen.

  17. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    The Yanks have simply decided that Betances is not a starting pitcher so they don’t have any intention of letting him get another shot.”

    Yeah…. unfortunately I don’t have a high confidence in the Yankee brain trust making the correct decisions.

  18. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:41 pm


    Look at his last full season as a starter, in 2012. How is that not thought out? He had an ERA of 6.44. His ERA should be HALF of that. His WHIP was 1.88. Then, look at the following years numbers. Obviously the Yankees management agrees with me, otherwise they would have already made that decision.

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  19. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    “I don’t think I’ve read anywhere that he changed mechanics.”

    I noticed.

  20. Giuseppe Franco June 21st, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Yeah…. unfortunately I don’t have a high confidence in the Yankee brain trust making the correct decisions.


    You and me both. Their track record in recent years hasn’t exactly been stellar.

  21. I Am Winning June 21st, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Well, regardless of how intelligent you think you are, you haven’t attempted to make any sort of valid argume. With that being said, I trust Chad, the Yankees, and my opinion far more than yours.

    Have a nice Saturday evening sir.

  22. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    I think I said about a week ago nobody employed by the NY Yankees is seriously considering Betances as a starter.

  23. mick June 21st, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    You take Betances out of the bullpen and you kill the bullpen.
    That’s called thinking about the team, which Girardi does.

  24. mick June 21st, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    People get mad with negative comments and today’s game had few positives.
    Mac- It never stopped them before..

  25. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    I am winning

    Have you ever checked out Randy Johnon’s minor league numbers? They were worse than Betances.
    He was awful and couldn’t find the plate.

    A quote I read was “he could walk the bases loaded and then strike out the side”.( sound familiar) One day he was pitching and Nolen Ryan noticed him landing on the heel of his foot. He suggested he land on the ball of his foot. He went on to become a HOF pitcher because of that simple change in his mechanics.

    The Yankees successfully changed Betances mechanics, and then gave up on him starting because he was out of options. The problem is he wasn’t out of options, and they should have let him continue to start with his new mechanics.

    If the Yankees weren’t in need of SP I would be all in for a lights out pen, but they are in dire need if they want to win another championship.

  26. Giuseppe Franco June 21st, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    For the sake of argument since it’s never going to happen but I think Betances’ stats in 2012 are completely meaningless now since he’s not the same guy anymore.

    He’s found it and he’s making major league hitters look silly. He’s got the super mojo going every time he’s on the mound.

    That kind of major league experience and success this season up to this point makes any stats he’s posted in the minors to be completely irrelevant.

    Again, he’s not that guy anymore.

  27. mick June 21st, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    Yankees hitting coach Kevin Long finally gets to see his son pitch; this week’s End Zone feature from
    Isn’t that ironic..

  28. Missing Cano June 21st, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    is there any word of high chain of command scouts/advisers are in AAA tonight for Mitchell’s start it is just interesting he is lined up with Nuno right now

  29. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    I wonder if the Pinetar Incident and subsequent suspension of Pineda had not happened if he would have still had this arm problem.
    It seems one thing led to another and the RS got more than they bargained for and are patting their collective selves on the back, at least Farrell.

  30. Giuseppe Franco June 21st, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Pineda missed the previous 2 seasons so I don’t think there’s anymore to this than a guy who can’t stay healthy.

  31. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    “The Yankees have essentially a league-average rotation ERA, which is pretty good all things considered.”


    I guess that’s pretty good if you are fielding a league-average team. And the Yanks’ perfect .500 record over their last 48 games seems to suggest just that.

    I would have guessed the Yanks’ starting rotation was a bit better than average though. Perhaps when you throw in the below average performances of Nuno, Nova and CC that’s what you get.

    Actually I think considering the state of the team’s pitching, offense and defense, they are quite fortunate to be 5 games above .500. I think the stellar bullpen work of Robertson, Betances and Warren (especially Betances) has got them to where they are now. The Yanks have won a disproportionate amount of “winnable games” this season, games where they have received relatively better pitching and offense, and this is reflected in having the best record in games decided by two runs or less. I believe the back of the bullpen is big part of that.

    Looking ahead, the Yanks could improve on being a league average team but there’s a lot of room to regress as well, especially if the bullpen slips a bit and the team starts losing more close games as most teams do.

    All in all, whatever happens, I hope the Yanks continue to give some of their young players a chance to see whether they actually belong in the major leagues. They’ve done an excellent job at that so far with their young pitchers but it would be beneficial if players like Almonte and Pirela got some kind of serious look as the season progresses. There are a couple dead spots in the lineup that are prime candidates for change.

    For weeks now this team has the look of a team that’s in transition. Of course, as I’ve said many times, the season doesn’t have to be just that. Transition. There is still plenty of time for the 2014 NY Yankees to show they are better than league-average.

  32. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Nuno’s turn comes up 3 more times before the ASG.
    Then on 7/22.
    The 3 are home against TB, away at Minn and away at Balt.
    I’m thinking CC gets that 7/22 start.
    Maybe even the Balt. game 7/11, 3 weeks away.

  33. Tar June 21st, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    “Again, he’s not that guy anymore.”

    But for whatever reason nobody wants to believe that changing his mechanics has anything to do with it.

    Only pitching from the stretch, shortening his stride, changing the position of his hands…has nothing to do with his recent success. It’s only because he’s relieving now and not starting. SMH

    The kid had un-hittable stuff in the minors … he just couldn’t command his pitches. Now he can… most likely because of changes made to his mechanics. Why the Yankees wouldn’t want to make sure of that one way or the other is beyond me. They could have another dominating starter to go along with Tanaka… but no they don’t have the guts to make possible controversial moves….

    Anyway for me I would think it would be harder to come in the game cold… with the game on the line and throw strikes. But thats just me.

  34. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Missing -

    Mitchell is starting in SWB so that Miley and Aldred can get a look at him and if needed, prep him for a ML start.


  35. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    How does anyone know what they will do next year with Betances.
    All we do know is that this year would not be the right time to make this drastic move.

  36. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    PAW lineup: Betts 4, Middlebrooks 5, Shaw 3, Rivero 6, Vasquez 2, Hassan 9, Brown 8, Butler dh, Henry 7. Matt Barnes rhp

    SWB lineup: Pirela 7, Murphy 2, Almonte 9, Sizemore 5, Roller dh, Wheeler 6, Refsnyder 4, Joseph 3, Dugas 8. Bryan Mitchell rhp.

  37. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    “Maybe even the Balt. game 7/11, 3 weeks away”


    I think CC will be ready to go in three weeks. That was a very aggressive bullpen session this morning. If that’s true, does that mean two more starts for Nuno (or his replacement)?

  38. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders
    Mitchell works around a walk and retires two by K before inducing a ground ball out. Solid first inning.

  39. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Dan -

    The soft plan is for CC to be ready after the AS break, with work at appropriate levels based on his progressions and how the knee and arm feel.

    That would mean 2-3 more starts for Nuno’s spot… June 26 (off, so June 27), July 1, July 6, July 11.

    That’s just the math, not sure how those dates line up on the schedule.


  40. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Dan -

    The soft plan is for CC to be ready after the AS break, with work at appropriate levels based on his progressions and how the knee and arm feel.


    I think that’s the Yanks’ plan. Not CC’s plan. And if CC pushes himself, and I believe he will, and there’s no setbacks, CC will pitch before the All Star break.

  41. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    “SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders
    Mitchell works around a walk and retires two by K before inducing a ground ball out. Solid first inning.”


    Mitchell worked around Mookie. That’s something the Yanks are probably going to have to get used to doing for the next 10 years or so.

  42. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    That would mean 2-3 more starts for Nuno’s spot… June 26 (off, so June 27), July 1, July 6, July 11.
    They are not starting Nuno 7/27 at home vs Boston, the day after his turn, an off day.
    He will get 2 more starts. 3, if CC isn’t ready for Balt, right before the ASG.

  43. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Dan -

    It would be nice if CC could come back sooner, but there are all sorts of moving (and non-moving) parts to this rehab. As we know, the FO is pretty conservative when it comes to this sort of thing.

    He’ll pitch when the FO says so, not sooner.


  44. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    CC is not Pineda. CC is a veteran who knows his body better than anyone else. He’s also over 30 with a condition that’s basically not fixable. I don’t think there’s a huge risk in allowing him to be aggressive is his re-hab. Basically, there’s not much to lose.

  45. bbb51 June 21st, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    “It’s not like there’s just starting pitchers lying around out there.”


  46. Hankflorida June 21st, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    In the Stengel era where starters usually went the distance and the pen was usually comprised of failed starters, Bentance would have been starting like Don Larson who went to the no windup and gained control and was pulled from the pen. This is the era of specialization and pitch counts and Betances will stay where he is. The offense must take charge and shield the starting pitching so Betances can dominate in the only role that he is given.

  47. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders
    Quiet first frame for both squads as we are scoreless through one complete at PNC Field.

  48. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    CC is like your Chevy with 110,000 miles already on it. It’s already on borrowed time. So what the oil light is on. I’m going to Vegas this weekend!

    Pineda is like your BMW with 5,000 miles logged and with one of those strange lights on somewhere in the dashboard that you can’t quite figure out. It’s Sunday but you won’t risk taking it out for brunch so you stay home with a beer and get the car to it’s appointment at the dealer 7:30 Monday morning. They’ll serve you cappuccino.

  49. Jarak June 21st, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Part of the reason Betanses is succeeding is they reduced his repertoire to two pitches. A 2 pitch pitcher is not a starter but a great reliever. Would you guys have wanted to make Mariano a starter after 1996 also?
    Nuno keeps getting starts and won’t be skipped in part to help Tanaka, because they want him to get five days of rest as much as possible because he was only pitching once a week in Japan. But I think they could’ve stretched out Warren two different times this past week, including today, and probably should have.

  50. yankinvegas June 21st, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    They really should skip Nuno and pitch the other guys on 4 days rest. By doing that, they limit Nuno to 3 starts before the break. TB at home + roadies at Minnesota and Baltimore.
    The games he starts are basically guaranteed losses, so limit them as much as possible. If Vidal Nuno starts a game for the Yankees after the break, that is not a good thing unless he runs off three straight gems before then. I don’t think so.
    Hopefully CC will return to pitch the first game after the break against Cincinnati. And I want to acquire Ian Kennedy from SD.
    A big bat, preferably righty, at 3b would really be nice. Adrian Beltre would look great in the pinstripes!
    Was Buck Showalter this big of an asshole with us? I don’t think he was. I just think he is really bitter and believes he should have been managing all of our championship teams. There is no way that David Wells or Roger Clemens or Orlando Hernandez could have ever played for Showalter. They would have knocked his lights out. Things happen for a reason. If the Orioles are smart, they will fire this self absorbed loser or else endure more years of angst and failure.

  51. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    I wouldn’t sleep on J Ram getting a start. He threw over 40 pitches today.

  52. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    “But I think they could’ve stretched out Warren two different times this past week, including today, and probably should have.”


    I think this is true. But I also think it shows a clear intent on the part of Girardi to leave his bullpen alone, almost at all costs. I think it’s Cashman who was leaning towards Warren being stretched out but Girardi is not going to let that happen.

    I think this is an example of a bit of tension between Girardi and Cashman. I think you saw much of the same thing when Cashman gave Girardi Almonte but Girardi just let him sit on the bench.

  53. Missing Cano June 21st, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Bryan Mitchell just throws too many pitches already walked 3 in 2 innings and has thrown 57 pitches in 2 innings dude needs to iron out his control

  54. tomingeorgia June 21st, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    CC is more like my ram 1500 from 1996 with 175000 on it . It doesn’t look too good, but it gets the groceries home for years to come, plus a 6000 lb trailer from time to time.

  55. mick June 21st, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    A Girardi-Cash rift?
    Wonder who would win that one?

  56. Missing Cano June 21st, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    the bullpen acquisition for the second half push could very well be Whitley

  57. Missing Cano June 21st, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Refsnyder with another hit for aaa starting to get his feet wet further in aaa

  58. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    “CC is more like my ram 1500 from 1996 with 175000 on it . It doesn’t look too good, but it gets the groceries home for years to come, plus a 6000 lb trailer from time to time.”


    I stand corrected.

  59. bigdan22 June 21st, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    “A Girardi-Cash rift?
    Wonder who would win that one?”


    I’m not so sure it’s a rift as much as a natural tension between the GM and the manager. They have different jobs to do and aren’t always going to have the same solutions in mind with respect to the challenges at hand.

    Girardi is a good soldier. He understands authority and accepts it. But he’s also strong-willed and protective of his turf. He and he alone determines the lineup.

  60. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Pineda is like your BMW with 5,00 miles

  61. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Yanks need a RF with power. If beltran can’t play then I rather see Z than Ichiro or Soriano.

  62. mick June 21st, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    How much for Nelson Cruz?

  63. wanzies222 June 21st, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    SWB RailRiders ?@swbrailriders
    Still 2-0. Mitchell through four with only three hits against his ledger tonight.

  64. chicken_stanley June 21st, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Pineda is like your BMW with 5,00 miles


    On it’s 2nd factory recall… you hope it will run great once again but you’re beginning to feel snakebit

  65. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    I imaging Cruz has earned himself a 3-4 deals @ 15 per with his torrid start. But he is an option for 15… if Yankees has an interest in the Cuban Tomas then that’s another alternative that likely won’t come cheap.

    In speaking of present, I like to Z over Soriano/Ichiro barring trades. G might be set with his ways, then Cashman has to take his aging toy away, by that I meant trade if possible, discard if need to.


  66. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    *need be.

    Hello Chicken!

  67. pete22 June 21st, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    Most teams are delighted when their 5th starter gives up 4 ER in 6 1/3 IP, which keeps most good teams in the game. This game was on the offense and IF defense, again. Norris has been the Orioles top starter, and the offense seems to show life mainly against mediocre-poor pitchers.

    Should do some damage against Tillman who has been awful of late.

    Yankees have no SP depth at the moment. One injury away from a tough situation. Warren to SP weakens the bullpen. No guarantees CC will be better than Nuno, and I am starting to think Pineda may not be back this year

    Team needs another SP’er and bat. This is the time of year good GM’s go to work. You are on Cash, get Hal to give you some more to play with.

  68. chicken_stanley June 21st, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Greetings Cash.

    Just got here… things a little slow on the blog tonight?

  69. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    Saturday dinnertime, I imaging all the sane folks are precisely doing that. I just had some coconut shrimps with a bay breeze… feeling audacious!

  70. chicken_stanley June 21st, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    coconut shrimps with a bay breeze… feeling audacious!


    My youngest son’s birthday. I told him he could eat anywhere that he wanted tonight. He chose Applebees so he could have… wait for it… a grilled cheese! :)

  71. RhapsodyInBlue June 21st, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Italian night Chicken Sorrento with penne and a nice Napa Cab.

    I guess most everyone is still here but tired of the never ending Betances to the rotation argument which is a waste of time discussing.

  72. pete22 June 21st, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Good bullpens make managers look good, bad ones make them look bad (plus give them high BP and grey hairs). Joe won’t want to lose Warren from the pen anymore than he wants to lose Betances. SP acquisition is the GM’s job, and Joe is going to leave it to Cash to get somebody.

    I don’t think the need is urgent though, but one more injury to the rotation whose name is not Nuno would be tough. I suppose Aceves could be back to start, this is where his heart lies, but it will give me heart failure.

    This Johnson/Solarte platoon makes me laugh, and cry at the the same time. Solarte is a much better hitter against RHP’ers, he should be replacing Roberts at 2B (or play 3B and move KJ to SS against RHP’ers)

  73. Cashmoney June 21st, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    New one…

  74. JimK June 21st, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Mick, I know its a little late since you posted, but according to Girardi(press conference), Nuno will start against the RS on Friday

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