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Game 75: Yankees at Blue Jays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 23, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ellsbury (6)YANKEES (39-35)
Brett Gardner LF
Carlos Beltran DH
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Brian McCann C
Kelly Johnson 3B
Brian Roberts 2B
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Brendan Ryan SS

RHP Chase Whitley (3-0, 2.56)
Whitley vs. Blue Jays

BLUE JAYS (42-35)
Jose Reyes SS
Melky Cabrera LF
Adam Lind DH
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Colby Rasmus CF
Dioner Navarro C
Juan Francisco 3B
Munenori Kawasaki 2B
Anthony Gose RF

RHP Marcus Stroman (3-2, 5.14)
Stroman vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 7:07 p.m., YES Network

WEATHER: Always nice to have the dome.

SECOND CHANCES: Blue Jays starter Marcus Stroman’s last outing was against the Yankees last Tuesday. He lasted just 3.2 innings that game and took the loss in a 3-1 Yankees win. He’s a former first-round pick making just his fifth big league starter over all.

SECOND CHANCES (AGAIN): Yankees starter Chase Whitley is also facing a team for the second time in a row. He last pitched against the Blue Jays on Wednesday and got his third straight win, going five innings with two runs. The Yankees have won six of Whitley’s seven starts overall this season. Whitley’s five consecutive road starts resulting in a team win is tied for the second-longest active streak in the Majors.

ON THIS DATE: Pretty solid Toronto connection because of the player involved: June 23, 1997, David Cone struck out 16 batters in a 5-2 Yankees win at Detroit. That’s a still-standing single-game franchise record for a right-handed pitcher.

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351 Responses to “Game 75: Yankees at Blue Jays”

  1. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    go Yanks go Whit

  2. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Let’s hope Beltran sees a lot of fastballs, goes 5-5, so that we can see where he bats tomorrow.

  3. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Asking Jeter about his spot in the order is not a difficult question, and not the kind of thing that’s likely to land you in his doghouse. It’s just not a question that’s likely to lead you anywhere. And whatever he says, what difference does it make? He doesn’t make the lineup. It’s a Girardi decision.
    ==================
    Chad, it’s a relevant question that many fans would like to have some insight about.
    I also wonder if Jeter and Girardi have discussed this?
    It might be a taboo subject they have not discussed.

  4. Moschitto June 23rd, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    What a loss without Trisha here. Worse than losing Cano

  5. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    Trisha was banned under mysterious conditions.

  6. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    They have a lot of below-average averages right now on a 39-35 team. For instance: Carlos Beltran .220; Brian McCann .222; Kelly Johnson .222; Alfonso Soriano .232; Brian Roberts .244; and Mark Teixeira .246. The Yankees also have Yangervis Solarte at 0 for his last 28, dropping him to .263.

    Chad put the Yankee woes into perspective as these batting averages magnify the difficulty in keeping the line moving. There are not enough home runs in this lineup to make up for this teams lack of clutch hitting. I assure you that when Cashman put this team, he thought that this team could play small ball. He made a big mistake that has to be corrected next year with power players that fit the Stadium.

  7. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    He’s not hitting for power, and that’s a problem in that spot, but there aren’t many guys hitting for power in this lineup.
    ====================
    Chad,
    I disagree. Batting 2nd is not a power slot.

  8. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    1-2-3 as easy as pie.
    The Beltran Era is over.

  9. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Or should I say Beltran Error.

  10. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Go Whit! Go Yanks!

  11. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    I was liking the pitching matchup until seeing them going down 1,2,3

  12. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    GregD, you in Bowie, watching Trenton?

  13. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Rematch of the YS3 game. Let’s again wear Stroman down.

  14. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Mick,

    Banned?? I don’t believe it..She is probably taking a vacation or something.

    Hank,

    And where are those power bats coming from? I don’t see anything on the FA class that would fit our needs…And I don’t think we have what it takes on the farm to trade for a prime aged slugger.

    Pete,

    The relevance is exactly what you bring up and the Montero relevance as well..If Pineda had been productive, the issue would have died down…The problem is that he hasn’t been..And honestly, I have my doubts that he will ever be that front of the rotation guy we all hoped for

  15. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    So is Melky wearing pinstripes next year

  16. GordoMillones June 23rd, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Ever since Melky left NY he has become a different baseball player

  17. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    “.If Pineda had been productive, the issue would have died down…”

    If the O had been productive. Again, trading your best trade chip for pitching instead of O when we had and have none.

    Settle down, Whit, right over the plate.

  18. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    pete22, let’s hope.

  19. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    GordoMillones,

    Nope..He just reach his prime..All the signs of a good hitter were there…Switch hitters tend to mature later

  20. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    1 run scored in the last 19 innings. Can they score 2 tonight? 50/50.

  21. Moschitto June 23rd, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    The last year Melky was in New York, he played most of the season as a 24 year old and turned 25 in August ’09. He is 29 now.
    It’s not as if his ceiling was established when Cashman traded him—for nothing, by the way.

  22. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Stop the bleeding, Whit. Locate.

  23. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    YF,

    I stand corrected..As you very well know..I think it was a bad trade from the get go..It was philosophically flawed for the reasons you express

  24. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    One more.

  25. GordoMillones June 23rd, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Luis,

    Yeah I hope he continues to get better maybe we can see him go for a batting title :)

  26. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    If you are looking for a bright spot or some humor when the Yanks are up…try using the old Tootsie Pop commercial as they are set down in order over and over again. You have to kindof say it out loud…

    Whaone…twho…three…

  27. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    There is no worse 5 thru 9 in baseball, and I’m including NL teams. Simply atrocious.

  28. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Mochitto,

    We got Logan!!!! ;)

  29. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Hi luis! Que tal? It will be particularly bad if Pineda never pitches meaningful innings for us again, especially as a starter. Any new news? I have been at games so have missed any updates.

    The Manny blister thing concerns me because Dellin and Manny fought blisters through much of 2012. Although people made fun of it especially regarding Dellin because he wasn’t in favor then.

  30. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Behind already when 1 run seems like a loss with this lineup. Without Bautista they should be able to handle the Jays.

  31. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    If the O had been productive. Again, trading your best trade chip for pitching instead of O when we had and have none.
    ================
    I guess nobody wanted him.

  32. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Who reaches the Mendoza line first? McCann or Beltran? Both are getting pretty close.

  33. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    OK but on a more serious note…

    I don’t understand why the lineup isn’t shuffled at all

    McCann seemed to hit better lower in the lineup and the way it is stacked does not provide ANY protection for any of the hitters

    Pitch aggressively to gardner
    Pitch slightly in to Jeter if Gardner gets on so he can dribble one to the infield
    Pitch carefully to Ells and TeX to get to McCann
    Pitch inside to McCann so he pops up or into the shift
    Let the pitches fly against the rest of the lineup.

    It is easy to see an opposing pitcher can easily navigate the hitters even if guys get on base

    SMH

  34. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Whaone…twhoo…three

    LOL

  35. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    The problem here is often that some think they know better than those pros whose job it is to make player personnel decisions. They do make mistakes of course, but all too often the basis for said criticism is Monday morning quarterbacking as well as claims to have a crystal ball like insight into medical issues, etc. The Montero-Pineda deal, how Girardi used Betances as well as his role as a relief pitcher are just a few examples.

  36. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Same old, same old… I am working on getting the visa right now..And the world cup has quieted down things down here

    As for the trade..I am on record saying that even if he becomes an ace, from a philosophical stand point it was a bad trade…You never trade from an weak area to enhance an area of strength…The results are very clear for all to see..I don’t think there is a debate nowadays that we need young offensive players

  37. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:29 pm
    Behind already when 1 run seems like a loss with this lineup. Without Bautista they should be able to handle the Jays.

    What part of the Yankees is better than the respective part of TOR? That sweep in NY was more likely a statistical aberration.

  38. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    Judge already has a triple through 1AB; Tampa’s only hit.

  39. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    My problem with the Montero-Pineda trade is I thought there were clear red flags on Pineda based on his 2nd half performance in 2011 and being shut down for a time before the season ended (there were IP issues supposedly). Pineda claimed he changed his approach to pitch more to contact but young guys that age in their first year having had great success with their current approach never change their approach unless there are physical issues forcing them to do so.

    Yankees likely knew Montero would never be an adequate C and he was blocked at 1B and DH (with all the aging veterans). Also, with 189 planning well underway, getting a cost controlled pitching stud fit given the dearth of prospects in the system (or the poor record in developing SP’ers).

    I might try another Montero-Pineda trade since I am pretty down on Pinedas future and Jack Z is not happy with Jesus.

  40. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    We got several good starts out of Nova and his career is now over. Sucks that he was touted as a good pitcher by the internet yankees fans.

  41. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    SS,

    Or that some others fail to see the pretty obvious flaws from our own FO..Just because they are getting paid to do the job…Overall, this FO has done a pretty lousy job

  42. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Luis, sorry to hear about same old, same old; good to hear about visa within context. Email me details. and let me know if there is anything I can do. And yes, I am very aware of your position and everyone’s on that deal.

    O’Brien just hit a line drive HR, perhaps wind-aided, but that boy can crush that ball when he makes contact.

    Whit scuffling. Jays seeing him again so soon was a concern.

  43. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Who’s available in the bullpen? Another run or two and this one is over.

  44. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    Bad luck

  45. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Philosophical standpoint of trading a position-less player like Montero that is a steroid abuser (the Yankees probably knew this prior to the trade) for a pitcher with an upside of an ace.

    That’s a pretty good trade, even if Pineda never throws another pitch for the Yankees.

  46. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Boy the Jays just simply put the bat on the ball and don’t try to do too much at all. I hope Kevin Long and the lineup is watching to see what they should be doing at the plate and steal some of their game plan.

  47. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Now Whitley has given up 6 hits (that’s right 6 hits) in 1 inning and this game is on the line already. Unbelievable!!

  48. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Ugh close by no cigar

  49. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    YF,
    What’s going on with Banuelos??

  50. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    SS, fans have been second guessing managers and GM’s for 100 years, they even 2nd guess the President of the US. Its human nature and it keeps those in power on their toes. Those who get great results get 2nd guessed less. Those who have a lot of failure get 2nd guessed more often

  51. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    The lack of offense is putting too much pressure on the pitchers. The pitchers are trying to make sure they don’t give up to many runs and are pressing because they know the offense will have a hard time catching up.

  52. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Ballgame. That was fun.

  53. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Game over folks.

  54. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Well, this start is not going as expected

  55. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Melky can do no wrong.

    Luis, you have mail.

  56. charlestonchew June 23rd, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Our infield D is terrible. So many of these groundballs could have been gotten…

    Whitley is actually pitching pretty well. How many of these have been hit remotely hard? One?

    Meh. It’s time for the Yanks to pick it up on offense. This game is winnable.

  57. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    ohengin33r,

    2013 redux.

  58. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Now it’s over

  59. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    They will be in 3rd place after tonight as Baltimore has gotten off to a 2-0 lead. Can’t stand the makeup of this team. They went out and spent a bazillion dollars and the offense is worse than last year.

  60. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    The Whitley Experiment is Over.

  61. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Oh well. One of those games.

  62. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Oh My.

  63. charlestonchew June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Ok not anymore =)

  64. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    It would be winnable if we had an offense. But maybe Stroman implodes and gives us some flat fastballs after sitting…

  65. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    7 hits…so far…in 2 innings and the Yanks cant even get one.

    Absolutely unbelievable!!!

  66. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    The Jays have scored more in 2 innings than the Yanks will score all series. Not hard to believe.

  67. GordoMillones June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    This is sad to watch now :(

  68. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Got it YF…Will answer shortly ;) … And thanks, I know

  69. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    24 comes on at 9pm, thankfully. Only have to watch another 75 minutes of this torture.

  70. egk June 23rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    I’ll say it again. They’ve gotten good pitching performances but it’s an illusion. They can’t win with 3 guys, Whitley, Phelps and Nuno who aren’t better than a #4 or 5 pitcher. Certainly not unless Beltran, Tex and McCann all wake up and play like all stars. Even then it would be touch over a whole season.

  71. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    As I say that it’s 6-0 and outscored 14-0 in the last 10 innings. Game over and it never even started. Whitley turned into a pumpkin. It was only a matter of time.

  72. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:45 pm
    7 hits…so far…in 2 innings and the Yanks cant even get one.

    Absolutely unbelievable!!!

    What is so unbelievable?? Look at the Yankee lineup. Seriously. The sh*t hasn’t fully hit the fan for this team yet. It will.

  73. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Oh well there’s a bright side to this

    I can shut the game off and some work done tonight to catch up after a long weekend

  74. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    I fear it might be a log night for the pen or Joe is going to make Whit take one for the team

  75. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:41 pm
    SS, fans have been second guessing managers and GM’s for 100 years, they even 2nd guess the President of the US. Its human nature and it keeps those in power on their toes. Those who get great results get 2nd guessed less. Those who have a lot of failure get 2nd guessed more often.
    ————-
    I agree, I’m all for challenging authority. But there’s second guessing of the kind where opinions are expressed for a reasonable amount of time . . . and then there is the interminable, never ending, repetitive second guessing of the kind that goes on here over and over and over again.

  76. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Whit could have gotten some breaks, but he also doesn’t have his usual command, and now it’s just unraveling.

  77. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Yankees have done a good job in minimizing Disaster Starts. I think there have been only 3 starts by this crew where they did not pitch at least 4 IP

  78. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Good night folks

  79. pkyankfan69 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Just got in from the dog park… Seems like a good movie night

  80. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    The extra point is good. :(

  81. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Sad times to be a Yankee fan. This isn’t just the middle of the season, but something that has been going on for a season a half now. Just a terrible team right now and I don’t see it turning around anytime soon. The only thing is the AL East is the AL Least and that’s the only thing that is keeping this team in it.

  82. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    The Great overrated Ryan at SS should be released tomorrow.
    Not turning that DP opened the floodgates.

  83. Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Seems as though The Blue Jays came into this series with a little chip on their shoulders. Long night awaits

  84. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    luis, sounds good. Unlike the prospect of winning this game. Did I say prospect? Hmm, maybe in a couple of years…

  85. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    When Navarro is ripping you its all over. Ichiro might get his wish today. Warm him up Joe.

    Don’t ruin the kid for saving the bullpen. Lot of guys like Jram and Huff and Thornton can give you innings

  86. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Scott I agree…

    Just saying because the Yanks have wasted so much money on people who can’t (aren’t maybe a better word) perform at their job. If they worked in corporate america their a$$es would be canned by now.

    Just frustrating that there is so much potential and they can’t do squat.

    There needs to be a change and I believe has to be a coach or management that is relieved to make these guys get off their behinds.

    Look what happened to the Royals after they changed hitting coaches. Not saying that is the only thing that needs changed just giving an example

  87. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Hate to spout off negativity, but this is beyond bad. This team had a 4 game winning streak last week and has just unraveled since. If I could yell at Cashman and Girardi right now I would. 10 hits in less than 2 innings is unheard of!

  88. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Not turning that DP opened the floodgates.
    ======================

    I wonder how healthy he is. he has not played well defensively in his few starts

  89. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    They oughtta just stop pitching to Melky.

  90. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    This may end up being the worst stat for a starting pitcher this season. Of course, it would be a Yankee pitcher. They usually end up having these dubious awards!

  91. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Can’t over react to any single game or even a handful. I usually break it up into 10 games to dampen the noise. Whit has a bad night. It happens even to the greats once in awhile. Blue jays were due to break out of their slump. Perfect storm of regression

  92. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Yes, mick, as usual, you’re right. Ryan didnt even attempt a throw. So much for world beating defense.

  93. cs in la June 23rd, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Guys, just last week the Yankees went 8 for 10. Not a great weekend but is it really “sad times to be a Yankee fan”? Seriously.

  94. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    There needs to be a complete overhaul of the FO and to a point on how ownership approaches the team..It hasn’t been a season and a half..This is a process that started back after 2009..

  95. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    ohen — I agree with canning Long. But this team is seriously flawed. A gross error in mismanagement. You can put a tarp on cow dung, but eventually it’s going to reek. We haven’t seen full capitulation yet. We will.

  96. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Or that some others fail to see the pretty obvious flaws from our own FO..Just because they are getting paid to do the job…Overall, this FO has done a pretty lousy job.
    —————-
    I disagree I think that they have done a pretty good job. In an environment of parity, post-steroids, an occasional changing mindset from ownership, lower round draft picks and some bad luck due to injuries the Yankees have done quite well.

    In the last ten years they have won 95 games or more 7 times – and finished first in the AL East 6 times. The days of any team winning it all or even getting to the World Series year after year is likely gone forever. That’s parity.

  97. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Stroman looks like a different guy tonight. Thats baseball.

  98. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Experts like Kay parroted how great Ryan was on defense and right from the start he crapped the bed.

  99. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    The days of any team winning it all or even getting to the World Series year after year is likely gone forever. That’s parity.
    ===================
    Seligs dream come true.

  100. Your Name Here June 23rd, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    The yanks couldn’t keep playing the cubs, astros, white sox and other last place teams all season. Wait till we get the tougher part of the schedule.

  101. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Ryan gets the first hit. The Gods are playing with us

  102. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Scott you are right.

    I feel that once the offense finally hits their low point…no hitter and 10 game losing streak maybe the pitching will completely crumble and the landslide will just be starting

  103. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    FO has done a great job. The Bellyache Brigade will always whine.

  104. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    What is the toughest part of the schedule your name here. The worst team in the AL is the Rays, and we have plenty of games left with them. Only good team is Oakland. Everyone else is a 500 team +/-

  105. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    SS,

    I am glad that you think that way…I am sorry that I can’t share your opinion..If I were in charge, all those guy would be collecting unemployment checks..Since 2009, this FO has run this franchise to the ground:

    1) Failed to build a core to replace the old one.

    2) Traded most assets for the wrong players

    3) Changed the baseball approach that works best for our park

    4) We got older instead of younger

    5) And all this with an astronomical budget

    Sure they did some things well…Dumpster diving..Their MLB scouting is quite good..They develop relievers..But overall, they failed to accomplish the goal

  106. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Another sad fact: How many of the position players are playing for a job next year? They’re either tied up in long-term deals (Gardner, Ellsbury, Tex, Beltran, McCann) or are playing out the string (Jeter, Roberts, Ichiro, Soriano).

    That’s another example of mismanagement.

    The players are taken care of. It’s just us fans that are fuc*ed.

  107. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Well got to go..Have a good one all

  108. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    ohen — If I have to choose between 80 wins and no playoffs and 70 wins, I’d actually take the latter, because at least that MIGHT (big maybe) lead to some substantive change.

  109. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Kay on the CC coming back is better than a trade. Tempering expectations folks.

  110. Moschitto June 23rd, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Yea, Unnamed that Front Office is nothing but a juggernaut. Spending Half a Billion in the off season and after tonight being 3 games over .500 is quite the accomplishment

  111. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Tanakkkka!

  112. Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Luis….You and I both understand that the challenges the organization faces to today and beyond was partly ( if not almost entirely ) a result of their decisions ( to do zip ) after the 2011 season. This is a result of not so much on Cashman as it is on Hal and inner committee’s determination to alter how The Bombers will do business. The assets that they once had that would have generated a huge infusion of young talent left without any sort of return. This club reminds me of how they went about things in the 1980′s . At least now there’s a few wildcards to chase ……It’s a mess looking ahead because it’s all about day to day , season to season and no blueprint in sight

  113. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    7-0 steal. I dont have a problem in the 3rd in this park

  114. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    good evening all… just got in and turned on the game – Whoa, Nellie!!! Quite a stinker in progress! I believe I’ll turn on John and Suzyn (just to keep track in case the Yanks do something) and turn the UVA-Vandy game on… GO HOOS!!!

  115. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    One more:

    6) Failed to trade players for prospects when it was clear that we had no real shot last season..So we lost them all for nothing or as GF very aptly points out, we got jack and squat..No pun intended bbb ;)

  116. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    And let’s be fair. Chase Whitley was a non-touted minor league entity. It’s on us for expecting this guy to be dependable after several decent starts. It’s on Yankee management for being in a position where he and Nuno and Phelps are the only options.

  117. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    They couldnt have expected the injuries to CC & the average Nova. They could have expected it with Pineda, but it’s bad luck to have all 3 injured.

    FO has done a remarkable job.

  118. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Why aren’t there any fiery players these days?

    On the Yankees alone, there is nobody that approaches the likes of Munson, Pinella, O’Neill, Posada , guys that hated to lose . It was contagious..

  119. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    luis

    didn’t you say you had to leave 3 different times already?

  120. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Scoreless inning. Whit should just throw the changeup the rest of the way

  121. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    6) Failed to trade players for prospects when it was clear that we had no real shot last season..So we lost them all for nothing or as GF very aptly points out, we got jack and squat..No pun intended bbb
    =======================
    It takes 2 teams to make a trade.

  122. charlestonchew June 23rd, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Soriano needs to be in the lineup. Put Ichiro in to pitch and I bet you he does OK. Could be the best win of the year if Sori can hit two grandslams and Ichiro can get a win. I say this because, I mean, who besides Sori can possibly hit the ball out of the park on a big fastball? I don’t see anyone else capable of it on this team right now, save Brett Gardner. Beltran is slow. So is Tex. So is McCann. So, so slow.

  123. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    I’m with ya Scott.

    The problem is that I have no faith in the boys that run this team to have the balls to make the necessary changes. They are more worried about the bottom line and have no baseball sense whatsoever in my opinion.

    The fans spoke last year by starting to not show up at the stadium and they panicked at patched a team together… Which has a ton of potential but is not producing.

    I feel the same thing will happen again

  124. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Hit it hard FWIW

  125. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    All of these stellar lefty and switch hitters are 0-for-tonight. Mr. Defense has the only hit. At least there’s some comedic relief here.

  126. luis June 23rd, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Pat M,

    Got to go..But I agree with your assessment…I think the best that could happen is that we change ownership..As for Cashman, if I were in his shoes and I don’t agree with the way Ownership wants to stir the ship, I would have walked out..Of course, I don’t know the financial position of Mr Cashman, but I am pretty sure he can get a new job.

    Good night

  127. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    IMO, the fire they need is in the broadcast booth at YES.

    Watching him break bats and bust Gatorade bottles when they lost or he didn’t produce was great to see since it showed real passion and desire.

  128. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Teix message! Six more please.

  129. Mordot11 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Why aren’t there any fiery players these days?

    On the Yankees alone, there is nobody that approaches the likes of Munson, Pinella, O’Neill, Posada , guys that hated to lose . It was contagious..
    —————————————–
    You bring up an interesting point and one that I’ve discussed with various family members on many occasions. My basic thought on this topic is that the attitude of the players reflects the attitude of the manager and ownership. The Yankees have become extremely vanilla since the ownership transition and subsequent hiring of Girardi.

  130. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    At least Tex will likely hit 20+ homers. He’ll be alone in that category.

  131. charlestonchew June 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    McCann should have hit that pitch deep — was RIGHT down the middle.

    He’s just too slow.

  132. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    I wrote this morning that if someone told me the starting pitching would be Tanaka, Kuroda, Phelps, Whitley and Nuno playing with an outfield of Ichiro, Gardner and Ellsbury before the season started, I would think that this team would have a losing record. Losing Nova, Pineda and CC and replacing them with long relievers has to come back and bite the team at a certain point. I still stay that the pitching we have now needs Murders Row to win and not a team built for small ball. Remember Vasquez, Burnett and Garcia and we still won!

  133. Mordot11 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    IMO, the fire they need is in the broadcast booth at YES.

    Watching him break bats and bust Gatorade bottles when they lost or he didn’t produce was great to see since it showed real passion and desire.
    —————————–
    I think Lou Pinella is the right manager for the job starting next year. There are going to be a lot of younger players and younger pitchers, and Lou won’t stand for any crap.

  134. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    charlestonchew June 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 pm
    McCann should have hit that pitch deep — was RIGHT down the middle.

    He’s just too slow.

    He’s just not good.

  135. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    They couldnt have expected the injuries to CC & the average Nova. They could have expected it with Pineda, but it’s bad luck to have all 3 injured.
    ===================

    CC was certainly not unexpected, he has had knee surgery after all and declining velocity. In any event, the average team loses 40% of SP’ers to injury and need 8-10 SP’ers to get through the season. Depth is critical.

    Nova might have been unexpected, but he had previous issues with the elbow/forearm and the way he finished the season last year makes you wonder if his issue was not unexpected. Kuroda is 39 and so far have goat lucky with him, and Tanaka has exceeded everyones expectations.

    Not sure what the Yankees could have done. They could have signed Santana and let Pineda start slow in AAA. Pineda was only going to give 20 starts anyways even if healthy. But Hals budget did not permit this

  136. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    If the “Mendoza” line is .200 which player will get the nod for sub .200.

    I think the McCann line sounds better than the Beltran line…. Well maybe not.

    We know Beltran is hurt so he kind of has an excuse but McCann not so much. Boy do I miss Jorge.

  137. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    The money these guys make is unreal and after a rough day on the field they still collect a monster paycheck.
    The money they make is a false validation of their career as a ballplayer.
    Yo just don’t see Pete Rose type players anymore.

  138. Jerkface June 23rd, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    66.7% of yankees HRs are solo shots. Mlb avg is 57%

  139. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Right again mick. Most of the time, the Bellyache Brigade fails to see the forest through the trees.

  140. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Mordot..

    I can somewhat agree with you about Pinella but I am hoping more for Paul O’Neill as the hitting coach.

    He was then kind of guy that while pitching batting practice would drill a hitter to make a point if they didn’t listen to him.

    Just what these guys need… Attitude and a no @#$% taker

  141. Your Name Here June 23rd, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    How about right after the all star break, 3 vs Cin, 7 vs Tex, 3 vs Bos, 3 vs Tor, And the 4 vs Det.

    That’s tougher than any stretch this season so far.

  142. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Beltran now at .217; McCann at .220. Both very much in contention.

  143. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Huff warming…

  144. Mordot11 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Ohengin33r,

    I don’t think that O’Neill and Girardi could coexist. Their styles are so completely opposite. Additionally, I think that many of the players would have more respect for Paul based on both his attitude and his accomplishments as a player.

  145. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 8:22 pm
    Right again mick. Most of the time, the Bellyache Brigade fails to see the forest through the trees.

    ROFL. And there are unicorns and fairies in that forest,

  146. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Getting CC and Pineda back will give the team a lift but this rash of injuries in baseball is beyond belief.
    It’s amazing they are still in the thick of it.

  147. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    I don’t think that O’Neill and Girardi could coexist.
    =====================
    Then make O’Neill the Mgr.

  148. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    O’Neill can barely sit through 9 innings in the booth; I doubt that he wants any part of the dugout.

  149. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Did K just say the Yanks aren’t completely out of this game?

    Anything to keep those ratings up, hey Mike?!?

  150. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    If they brought him food O’Neill would sit.

  151. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    One of those nights, don’t worry Whit, the weak hitting Red Sox are up next for you

  152. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    i guess the question again is where is the offense????

  153. RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    Kawasaki (the scooter) and Navarro showing McCann and Beltran who to hit….

  154. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    I’ll take bat speed and the ability to hit breaking balls vs. propensity for breaking a water cooler. And I don’t doubt that these guys want to win, but complementary pieces too often are signed as the central parts of the lineup. Not the fault of the players. This flawed lineup construction is on the GM.

  155. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    around a -38 run differential and counting and only Ichiro and Ryan above .300

  156. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm
    i guess the question again is where is the offense????

    Same question almost every night. Same answer, too, unfortunately. Just look again at the lineup.

  157. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Why O’Neill couldn’t hit?

  158. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    Well Mordot if the FO wanted to make a change and cause a stir putting O’Neill in there to clash might be what the players need because it seems that the FO believes in Girardi…and I do quite a bit.

    But this is all wishful thinking at this point as we never know what may happen and whether people would ever want or be offered the position

  159. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    One of those nights

    then i guess what was yesterday and Saturday and 8 innings on Friday for the offense one of those nights as well?

  160. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Getting CC and Pineda back will give the team a lift but this rash of injuries in baseball is beyond belief.
    It’s amazing they are still in the thick of it.
    =========================

    Maybe you should take a look at what other teams are going through.

  161. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    With 11 hits, TOR is just 2 shy of what the Yankees have produced Saturday + Sunday + tonight.

  162. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    The injuries are rampant in all of baseball.
    Steroids or the lack of them could be the reason.

  163. Mordot11 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Oh yes. Clearly wishful thinking. The Yankees management wants a guy who will just toe the company line and go along with whatever they say. A strong personality who will make waves is a long way off.

  164. RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Could Cervelli match what McCann is doing to date?

  165. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    i guess the question again is where is the offense????
    ////

    Missing Cano

  166. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm
    Luis….You and I both understand that the challenges the organization faces to today and beyond was partly ( if not almost entirely ) a result of their decisions ( to do zip ) after the 2011 season. This is a result of not so much on Cashman as it is on Hal and inner committee’s determination to alter how The Bombers will do business. The assets that they once had that would have generated a huge infusion of young talent left without any sort of return. This club reminds me of how they went about things in the 1980?s . At least now there’s a few wildcards to chase ……It’s a mess looking ahead because it’s all about day to day , season to season and no blueprint in sight

    excellent post bullseye the team is a mess going forward with no plan and lack of steady commitment to plans before (189 for a few seasons and then change 189 the years of going for 189 had already undermined switching plans)

  167. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 8:35 pm
    Could Cervelli match what McCann is doing to date?

    Probably not as many HRS, but most assuredly a higher B.A. and OBP.

  168. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 8:36 pm
    Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    i guess the question again is where is the offense????
    ////

    Missing Cano

    in a phil hartman voice impersonating ed mcmahon voice you are correct sir

  169. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Of course O’Neill could hit; I am not saying that. But baseball isn’t football. Emotion is great, but it doesn’t really affect AB. Or compensate for lack of ability. In fact, it can be detrimental at times. Just give me the best players. Give me a Matsui or Jeet in their prime who won’t break water coolers but were assassins in their way. That said, I loved Po’s emotion. Just don’t think outward fieriness necessarily translates to a winning formula. JMHO.

  170. yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Texas sucks by the way.
    This now is what we are. We are a team that is using 3 guys that should not be big league starters. This is why the run differential is so terrible. There isn’t a team in MLB that can lose 3 starting pitchers and remain as strong as they were though to be. Not a single team.
    This is why we are so prone to moderate hot streaks followed immediately by similar lousy streaks where our doors get blown off for a while.
    The thing that really surprises me is how bad Beltran and McCann are. They are the reason we don’t score many runs. That and the ridiculous use of Jeter in the two hole wasting baseball’s best lead off hitter.
    I don’t know what we can do but something has to be done real quick or we will finish ahead of only Tampa and maybe worse than the Mets.

  171. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    The unraveling really began in 2010 when they traded Melky. If you were actually in attendance in those 2010 playoffs vs. Texas we looked slow and old. It was blatant, but they didn’t recognize it and just kept getting older instead of infusing some youth, making some deals. They just applied bandaid after tattered bandaid.

  172. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    *after they traded Melky

  173. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    The unraveling really began in 2010 when they traded Melky. If you were actually in attendance in those 2010 playoffs vs. Texas we looked slow and old. It was blatant, but they didn’t recognize it and just kept getting older instead of infusing some youth, making some deals. They just applied bandaid after tattered bandaid.

    bulls eye

  174. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    in a phil hartman voice impersonating ed mcmahon voice you are correct sir

    ——————–

    made me laugh in the middle of a dismal game :)

  175. RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    And Cervelli would bring a lot more energy to this dull team…

  176. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    They just applied bandaid after tattered bandaid.

    Bingo. After a while those bandaids fall off and then you’re left with ugly scabs and scars.

  177. mick June 23rd, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Can you name a Yankee championship team that didn’t have a fiery player on it?
    It’s still a team sport. We have no idea what effect guys like Munson and O’Neill and Posada have in a clubhouse.
    These are professional ballplayers, they all have skills.
    Sometimes you need a presence on a team so that players don’t get down.

  178. bruceb June 23rd, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    This is why you can’t afford to lose a single game with Tanaka on the mound; Whitley was bound to have a rough one sooner or later.

    When was the last time we knocked a starter out of the game early?

  179. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 8:44 pm
    And Cervelli would bring a lot more energy to this dull team…

    I agree 100%. Sadly, the problems are much bigger than this.

  180. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    YF not saying that O’Neill is the answer just giving an example of what I think we kind of need to get this team out of the status quo

  181. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Not sure what the Yankees could have done. They could have signed Santana and let Pineda start slow in AAA. Pineda was only going to give 20 starts anyways even if healthy. But Hals budget did not permit this

    Pete, Hal’s budget curtailed the Yankees from continuing to sign power player and substituted players that were more prone to play small ball as those type of players are easily interchangeable and come cheaper. I believe that power should come from all three outfielders and would accept two as a minimum. This Yankee outfield takes me back to when the Yankees were known as the Highlanders, and that alone is a symbol of Cashman’s blueprint for the future of this team.

  182. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    O’Neill is the answer just giving an example of what I think we kind of need to get this team out of the status quo

    what the Yanks need is O’Neill’s OBP from ’93-’98 and defense/arm in RF

  183. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Which game do we win? Phelps v. Buehrle or Tanaka v. Hutchison. Somehow, they have to find a way to win one.

  184. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Texas sucks by the way.
    This now is what we are. We are a team that is using 3 guys that should not be big league starters.
    =======================

    Nobody knew what Pineda would be coming into ST coming off labrum surgery. The expectations were that Phelps was the 5th starter to open the season. CC coming off an awful 2013 and was awful to start the season. When he went on the DL he had given up a league leading amount of HR and his replacements pitched better than he did. This knee is not a sudden injury, its a chronic issue that’s likely led to his decreased performance the past couple of years and is why he lost so much weight. The Yankes are unlikely to have been surprised even if fans were kept in the dark.

    Nova was the only real surprise here, and most every team in the AL East has had one of them or more. On the position player front, the Yankees have been far more fortunate than most teams. The bullpen has also been fairly healthy

  185. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    ….and Tino and Broscious and Jorge and Bernie. The list goes on and on.

    Is it bad that I wouldn’t mind seeing Arod in this line up right now

  186. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    …is a symbol of Cashman’s blueprint for the future of this team.

    ——————

    Blueprint? I’m beginning to think the Yankee blueprint is similar to the blueprint for the Pyramids:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxUXcLz1Kes

  187. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Some good D by Toronto tonight

  188. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    We need to ask Kevin Long whats wrong with the hitting noy Girardi hes cluelesss

  189. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Blueprint? I’m beginning to think the Yankee blueprint is similar to the blueprint for the Pyramids:

    Written on some tomb in hieroglyphics.

    Beltran now at .216. The Mendoza watch is on.

  190. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Beltran is not the same hitter from the left side due to that right elbow. Yankees know this yet he is batting 2nd

  191. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    ohengin33r

    I hear you. It isn’t that I don’t like the fiery player; I just think that that kind of player is overrated in terms of effect on team production. But I understand the desire for some kind of tangible change. However, those teams had talent. Bottomline.

  192. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Facing Norris, Tillman, and Stroman: 2 runs / 13 hits in 24 innings. What if we were facing really good pitching?

  193. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Very true YF very true.

    This team has talent too except for some reason they forgot how to play the game..but definitely not as much talent as the others

  194. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    You don’t need a blue print if you have cash. Yankees do have cash, but they won’t let Cashman spend more of it. Payroll at 2003 levels now in nominal dollars. As a percentage of total revenues they may be in 1990′s territory, and they had some homegrown young talent then

  195. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Free range, LOL.
    ___
    what the Yanks need is O’Neill’s OBP from ’93-’98 and defense/arm in RF

    Agree. I’ll take the average too and his stats with RISP.

  196. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    They release Raul Ibanez maybe thats the answer

  197. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I always wonder what a switch hitter would do if they didn’t switch and picked one side of the plate. Beltran may need to do that so he takes the pressure off of the elbow

  198. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Huff was a nice pick up by Cash, only needed to part with a bit of cash to get him

  199. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Missing,

    lol.
    ////

    Completely disagree with that PatM post that exonerates Brian Cashman.

    Mistakes were made in 2010 – one of the big ones was getting rid of Cabrera. That was a major mistake, and it is also a great example of what a poor talent evaluator Cashman and his advisors really are. From the horse’s mouth:

    “When we traded him to Atlanta we had him as a low-end, everyday regular or an excellent fourth outfielder,” Cashman said of Cabrera. “And that’s how we show where we thought his ceiling was. As you know, he was starting for us in the World Series, but we had him as a low-end, everyday guy, not a National League MVP candidate. So I wasn’t surprised.”

    Oh yeah, he owes it all to the needle. I guess you chased Peralta and tried to lock him down for 3 years because his PEDs use was incidental, hey?

    Interestingly, they asked Don Mattingly, who is not Melky’s manager, if he thought PEDs had made Cabrera a .300 hitter and Mattingly said, no, we knew he had hitting talent when he came up through the system.”

    Maybe Don Mattingly should have been made, instead of manager, GM. Get someone who understands what a hit tool is, because these guys sure don’t. They get caught up in their concept of “character” players and watch uber talents walk out the door, and when they succeed, they make some smug, snide comment about the departed player. Talk about protesting too much. Get someone in here who doesn’t shoot his mouth off but who speaks softly and carries a big stick.

  200. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    I always wonder what a switch hitter would do if they didn’t switch and picked one side of the plate. Beltran may need to do that so he takes the pressure off of the elbow
    =======================

    If he needed to do that then he should have had the surgery and they could have signed Morales to DH until he returned and could then play RF and replace the sorry combo of Ichiro/Soriano

  201. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    what the Yanks need is O’Neill’s OBP from ’93-’98 and defense/arm in RF

    Agree. I’ll take the average too and his stats with RISP.

    ——————–

    I’ll also take his kick from right field… Sadly, we don’t have a single player that can execute the kick/throw:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mIqBJqPV0o

  202. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Morales is now not an option so just thinking out loud about options now. If Beltran is going to continue to hit then they might want to give it a try

  203. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    If Huff comes out for another inning it could be a sign he is being stretched out which would mean Nuno’s days in the rotation are coming to an end

  204. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Yankees do have cash, but they won’t let Cashman spend more of it.

    ___
    Ok, but shouldn’t we at this point know how to construct a better team without a lot of cash or at the least better manage that cash. We’re giving players we have no business giving the extra year, as in the case of Thornton, Beltran and Ryan. And not crazy about giving Ells so many years, but desperate teams… We don’t have a very economically sound business plan. Still FA beholden/dependent. Hopefully, that changes somewhat with the next wave of prospects. Fingers crossed.

    Think JRam gets an inning or two.

    Second homerun for O’Brien.

  205. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:02 pm
    Huff was a nice pick up by Cash, only needed to part with a bit of cash to get him

    He’s not good, but at least he eats some innings in garbage time.

  206. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Morales is now not an option so just thinking out loud about options now. If Beltran is going to continue to hit then they might want to give it a try
    =========================

    Not everyone can do that. Victorino did but he played at Fenway and got hit so often because he could not recognize itches coming at him. Very dangerous. Beltran plays in a park ideal for LHH, it would be hard to give that up. Also, Morales will be available soon once he starts hitting, but via trade, which is one of the reasons the Twins signed him.

  207. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    I like the way this team at least keeps battling and chipping away. Admirable.

  208. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Scott, should I stop ,calling them the Bronx Banjos and start calling them the Bronx Bombers again as in the last three games they have only scored on homers. Calling them the Banjos is an insult to Punch and Judy hitters who can play small Ball and manufacture runs.

  209. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Hank — You can call them anything you like. I have some suggestions, but they’re not for public consumption and they would be edited by the blog police.

  210. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    It’s just comical that Kevin Long is still the hitting coach. Great hitters come here and they stop hitting. Prospects come up and they can’t hit. Hitters leave and they hit better. I can cite numerous examples.

    What is with this guy? Is he a workout buddy with Cashman and Girardi or both? It seems there’s a personal relationship in there somewhere that insulates the guy.

    I stopped following this team closely. I can’t stomach it. I’ll come back on a more regular basis if they get rid of this guy. That’s all I ask.

  211. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Nice play by Ryan

  212. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Meaningless as it was, that was some play by Ryan. Probably the sole highlight from tonight.

  213. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Pete22, I hope that’s wrong. The Yankees need a game-changer starter, not Huff. Yeah, he’s likely better than Nuno. Does this team want to win the division, sneak in on the WC, or lose respectably?

    I do anticipate a “big” move, but I have a feeling I’m not going to like it.

  214. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Not sure whats worse… the Yankees game or the UVA game. UGH!!!

  215. yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Maybe CC was pitching bad because of the knee. We will find out soon enough. The offense is the shocking part. Gardner and Tex are the only ones doing what was expected.
    July 2 will bring, at MLB’s regret, an influx of outstanding young talent into the organization albeit anywhere from 3 to 5 years away. But some of those kids along with potential high end studs like Judge and Clarkin should provide a bright future.
    As for now, absolutely no on Cliff Lee. Go for Ian Kennedy and Carlos Quentin from SD. Murphy and Whitley should get that done.
    Hang in until the break. See if a rotation of CC, Kennedy, Kuroda, Tanaka and Phelps cane be good.
    Call up Pirela, platoon Johnson and Solarte and play Quentin in right. Maybe those changes along with hoped for increased production from McCann and Beltran will jump start the lineup. If Beltran continues to suck, operate on the elbow, DH Quentin and platoon Almonte and Ichiro. Release Roberts and Soriano. Send Nuno down and get rid of Huff and Thornton. No lefties in the pen are better than two lousy ones.
    Baltimore is the team to worry about, not Toronto. Maybe an 86 win AL East team can make some noise in October.
    My wife thinks that I am nuts, but I love this team so damn much.

  216. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Clunker by Whitley.

    Hopefully it’s a one off.

    Otherwise there’s even more trouble ahead.

    O continues to underwhelm placing even more pressure on the pitching.

  217. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Hank, they are the Bronx Bombers, but not bomb as we usually think of the word

  218. longtimefan June 23rd, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Overpaid, old, under-performing, all adjectives that correctly describe this team, a mediocre team having a mediocre year but still 4 th in MLB in attendance, and it’s all about the money, so we can most likely look forward to more of the same.

  219. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    ScottinSJ,

    The blog police for the most part are banned usernames who come back as multiples. They’re a 24-hour Stepford Wife-like service that vapidly defends anything management does. They root for the suit, not the uniform, even. Just my two cents, but if I were you, I’d talk to people who want to engage you and just ignore them. They feast on being incorporated into posts and referenced, like they’re some barometer. They’re trolls, not even people with real opinions; it’s all for show. JMO. You’re a good Yankee fan, you can say whatever the heck you want about your own team and air your frustrations as you see fit.

  220. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    There is no chance of Ian Kennedy ever being a Yankee again.

    No thanks.

    If you want a 2nd tier pitcher (I don’t) get Hammels.

  221. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    Whitley had a bad outing. It happens. I like his stuff and I think the Jays were going to hit tonight. He’ll be alright.

  222. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Javy for a third Bronx tour?

  223. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Chad, is there some sort of inappropriate or weird fraternity going on between Long and Cashman and/or Girardi? What sense do you get around the clubhouse. It’s gross negligence this crappy offense has been an issue for years now. They spend half a billion on hitters and it’s still an issue. My God.

  224. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Yankee fans need to send a petition to cashman fire Kevin Long or joe or both hes screwed up every free agent hitter swing uppper cut or dieee

  225. champ809 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    J. Al Pru

    I’m hoping the Yanks come to their senses and stretch out JRam and move him into Nuno’s spot.

    They are paying for their error in development of taking all the high end arms they have and converting them to relievers at the first sign of struggle.

    On Sat JRam looked like he used to look. FB 94-97 easy gas, the change was 87-88 with fade I think he got 2 k’s on it the slider was still inconsistent but I’d much rather see him every 5th day go to battle with those weapons than Nuno or a guy like Huff.

  226. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    July 2 will bring, at MLB’s regret, an influx of outstanding young talent into the organization albeit anywhere from 3 to 5 years away.
    ======================

    Aren’t these usually 16-17 yo kids though. Dont see any of them helping before 5 years and there is probably a high bust rate just like in the draft

  227. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    They need a SP and a bat.

    Get me Lee and Kemp.

  228. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Of course Hal isn’t opening his wallet for that.

    ;)

  229. austinmac June 23rd, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Kennedy is far better than what we have for our third through fifth starter. It doesn’t really matter if we don’t score.

    O’Brien has two homers. Refs isn’t playing.

  230. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    luis June 23rd, 2014 at 8:02 pm
    I am sorry that I can’t share your opinion..If I were in charge, all those guy would be collecting unemployment checks..Since 2009, this FO has run this franchise to the ground. Sure they did some things well…Dumpster diving..Their MLB scouting is quite good..They develop relievers. But overall, they failed to accomplish the goal.
    ____________

    The only problem is the facts do not back up your opinions. In what world does winning 95 games or more 7 times in ten years – and finishing first in the AL East 6 times in the last ten years not equate to MLB success?

    I believe your expectations are unrealistic, the Yankees are not going to win world championships at the pace they once did. It’s a different world.

  231. Petedfromnoha June 23rd, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    This team is disgusting

  232. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm
    They need a SP and a bat.

    Get me Lee and Kemp.

    They need several bats. One won’t make enough difference.

  233. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    So Huff stretched out to 61 pitches. We may see him next as a SP’er.

  234. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:20 pm
    Hank, they are the Bronx Bombers, but not bomb as we usually think of the word

    Should we now call them the Bronx Mini Bombers?

  235. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Yankee fans need to send a petition to cashman fire Kevin Long or joe or both hes screwed up every free agent hitter swing uppper cut or dieee

    _________

    I can’t help but picture Cashman relaying the petition to Long who proceeds to wipe his ass with it in the locker room while both laugh their asses off at the sight of the hashmark.

  236. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Kennedy will never be back under the bright lights.

    But it is moot because w/o an O it does not matter.

    You are oh so right about that.

    I imagine the Yankees are well aware of it too.

    I’m sure they know their deficiencies and are working behind the scenes to remedy them.

    If not they are pretty stupid, and I don’t believe they are that stupid.

  237. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    the Yankees are not going to win world championships at the pace they once did. It’s a different world.

    They aren’t winning anything in the few years at least. But the good news is you’ll get plenty of time to watch an old CC, A-Rod, Tex, Beltran and a useless McCann.

    Ladies and gentleman: Your 2015 – 17 New York Yankees.

  238. champ809 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    I do think that Kemp would make a lot of sense for this team depending on the prospect cost. An outfield of Kemp in RF/ Ellsbury in CF/ Gardy in RF would be pretty dynamic and Kemp gives you a legit middle of the order bat to team with Tex.

  239. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Chad, tell Cashman this team turned me into a Charlotte Bobcats fan.

  240. JonahFalcon June 23rd, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    The Yanks are comprised of AAA players and old brittle 37+ year olds. HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY HAPPEN?!?!?!?!

  241. JonahFalcon June 23rd, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    OOoh, get Kemp, and add another brittle player in his 30′s to the lineup!

  242. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    The only problem is the facts do not back up your opinions. In what world does winning 95 games or more 7 times in ten years – and finishing first in the AL East 6 times in the last ten years not equate to MLB success?

    ========================

    I’ll give them credit though 2009. Hals regime IMO fully began in 2010. Since 2010 its been in decline although the veterans kept them competitive for a few years. Empires don’t topple overnight. In this case it took 3 years.

  243. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Kemp would come in here and K 250 times, hit .220 and see an uptick in his HR totals like Granderson.

    Long doesn’t know how to teach these hitters how to put the ball in play. He’s a macho, hero-ball worshipper.

  244. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    Maybe the hitters need some viagra is that illegal

  245. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    champ809 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    J. Al Pru

    I’m hoping the Yanks come to their senses and stretch out JRam and move him into Nuno’s spot.

    They are paying for their error in development of taking all the high end arms they have and converting them to relievers at the first sign of struggle.

    On Sat JRam looked like he used to look. FB 94-97 easy gas, the change was 87-88 with fade I think he got 2 k’s on it the slider was still inconsistent but I’d much rather see him every 5th day go to battle with those weapons than Nuno or a guy like Huff.
    ///

    champ,

    Great, thanks for that info. I asked in the IGT because I was stuck with Sterling in the car if he was missing with the changeup, but didn’t get a response. Sterling and Suzyn never mentioned the pitch but that doesn’t mean anything, lol.

    I was asking precisely for that reason; my thought was, if he was throwing it (it has been problematic the previous outings, like he lost his feel for it or something), then they might be having him covertly stretched out.

    The slider has looked better than the changeup, which has just not been located well enough to get guys to offer at.

    Hey, he’s rusty, but they have to keep going back to him. If they’re not bold enough to convert Dellin, well Jo-Ram’s your next best option without making a deal that will hurt the future.

  246. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    champ-

    Why I said it.

    The Dodgers are pretty desperate for relief help.

    Sure they could always use a young catcher and a back end starter.

    Billingsley is having trouble getting healthy.

    They have an Outfield surplus.

    Let’s make a deal.

    :)

  247. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    We have Jonah Falcon on this board now? Look what you’ve done.

    Howard Stern’s prank calls to you were hilarious!!!

  248. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    That’s right Cashman, your team has lost market share to the Charlotte Bobcats. That’s an official NBA team BTW, now the Hornets.

  249. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    This blog has more highs and lows than the newest roller coaster ride at six flags… last week, after the Toronto series, we were the best thing since sliced bread… tonight, we are the worst team to ever don a major league uniform. The following quote has been attributed to many, but the best I can tell, it came from Lou Holtz:

    You’re never as good as people think you are when you’re winning and never as bad as people think you are when you’re losing.

    Where does that leave the current Yankees? I don’t know for sure but its no time to be swilling champagne nor a time to be jumping off a bridge.

  250. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    champ809 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    I do think that Kemp would make a lot of sense for this team depending on the prospect cost. An outfield of Kemp in RF/ Ellsbury in CF/ Gardy in RF would be pretty dynamic and Kemp gives you a legit middle of the order bat to team with Tex.
    ================================

    Dodgers say he is not on the market. If he is the Yankees will have to compete with the Red Sox, and they can provide a better package

  251. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    JRam has been surviving without a very good changeup, his K and best pitch. They have him throwing the slider more, but wonder if that is because the change hasn’t been as good, not locating it or getting the usual swings and misses. Once that pitch is working, watch out. Gil of course also has him throwing occasional cutters, which is Gil’s signature pitch.

    Actually I just looked at pitchfx from 6/21 and looks like he got no swings on changeup but 3 on slider. Is that accurate?

  252. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    This is a .500 team that will miss the playoffs with this current roster. One of the other teams will eventually catch fire. This team is just to inconsistent and .220 hitters fill the lineup.

  253. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    I recommend everyone hit up YouTube and watch JonahFalcon’s ‘Yankee talk’ episodes where Stern’s crew prank calls him. It’s comic gold, forever enshrined on the world’s great digital library. Jonah it’s an honor.

  254. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Only silver lining tonight is that the O’s are losing too.

    :)

  255. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Joe should just cancel the postgame chat tonight. I mean, what is there to say really?

  256. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    champ809 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    I do think that Kemp would make a lot of sense for this team depending on the prospect cost. An outfield of Kemp in RF/ Ellsbury in CF/ Gardy in RF would be pretty dynamic and Kemp gives you a legit middle of the order bat to team with Tex.
    ////

    Sure, why not, as long as there are no ‘spects like Judge and Sanchez going in the opposite direction. I’m not willing to give up too much for him, but if it don’t hurt, and he actually can be healthy, that’s a win. Gotta do something fairly substantial to give Jeter a shot. That’s my mantra, any way :)

  257. austinmac June 23rd, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    I will believe the team would add a big contract when I see it. Especially not if it is on the books when AROD returns. That $25M must be saved elsewhere. Hal is running a business, you know.

  258. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Where does that leave the current Yankees? I don’t know for sure but its no time to be swilling champagne nor a time to be jumping off a bridge.
    ====================

    Chickens do better staying in the coop or on the fence. Champagne is toxic and Chickens cant fly if they fall off the bridge :lol:

  259. NYY fan in NH June 23rd, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    3 hits and a HR from Tex and that’s all she wrote. Doesn’t get any more anemic than that

  260. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    The only question left is whether or not we will match yesterday’s 4-hit mark.

  261. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Glenn-

    You perception is correct.

    I almost never appear on game threads because they turn into a sewer when the Yankees lose.

    Perspective goes out the window very quickly.

    ;)

  262. austinmac June 23rd, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    What will Joe say? “It was just one of those games. I really do believe we will hit better. I’m waiting for this team to show who they are.”

    You may now skip the post game.

  263. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Pete – the reach of Mack Nugget is very far. Be afraid… be very afraid :)

  264. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Cervelli yeaaaaa

  265. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Actually I just looked at pitchfx from 6/21 and looks like he got no swings on changeup but 3 on slider. Is that accurate?
    ///

    Hey fem, thanks – It slipped my mind to check fangraphs. Boy, it would be great if they, short of converting Betances, went to Jo-Ram. It seems the only way these kinds of bold, smart moves get made is when they become desperate, which is probably why Randy was rooting for the bottom to fall out. Hey – I’ll take it any way I can get it. That would be something to salvage, and it would kind of be a below radar pressure, because you know they’ll crawl along with IP and it’ll just seem like, and actually be, for a period, a piggy-back deal. It would be a ray of light.

  266. RYUKINGDOM June 23rd, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    See what I mean with Cervelli. He makes things happen.

  267. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    The Yankees do indeed have a plan.

    They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball and will continue that kind of spending as they shed payroll through retirement and deals. Free agent acquisitions will always be an option to improve this team just not ten-year deals taking players onto their forties. Tanaka is a good example.

    They have declared their intention to spend big in the international market and are doing so as a way to replenish their farm system with good ballplayers that will be show-ready sooner rather than later.

    They have primarily moved away from drafting high-risk and high-reward high school ballplayers in favor of more seasoned college ones.

    The Yankee farm system has developed more than a few quality ballplayers and the plan is to continue to do so.

  268. andrewmelillo June 23rd, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Should never got rid of nunez

  269. Hankflorida June 23rd, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    All kidding aside, I still think that with this offense,’the Yankees need another dominant pitcher to go with Tanaka. Spahn and Sain and Koufax and Drysdale won with small ball or low scoring teams. Given that this team could average 4 runs a game and Kelley is back, could we gamble with Betances. I want to be there in October and am just looking for ways to stay in the hunt.

  270. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Good for Solarte.

  271. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    I watched the Evan Gattis story on FoxSports. Wow the Braves chose wisely on that one. I bet Long could turn that guy into Dave Kingman in 2 months flat.

  272. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    The Yankee farm system has developed more than a few quality ballplayers and the plan is to continue to do so.

    ————————-

    Like who besides bullpen guys?

  273. ohengin33r June 23rd, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Exactly what Solarte needed to help him break out of his funk

  274. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Of course they do Hank.

    Now all they need to do is get one.

    Looking for a # 2.

    Let’s hope they find a match.

  275. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:46 pm
    The Yankees do indeed have a plan.

    They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball and will continue that kind of spending as they shed payroll through retirement and deals. Free agent acquisitions will always be an option to improve this team just not ten-year deals taking players onto their forties. Tanaka is a good example.

    They have declared their intention to spend big in the international market and are doing so as a way to replenish their farm system with good ballplayers that will be show-ready sooner rather than later.

    They have primarily moved away from drafting high-risk and high-reward high school ballplayers in favor of more seasoned college ones.

    The Yankee farm system has developed more than a few quality ballplayers and the plan is to continue to do so.

    Does either Hal or Cashman pay you to write this nonsense??

  276. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Mike – I’ll keep hitting the game threads…. every once in a while you get some really insightful posts (not from me, mind you). Plus, there are some really funny folks that post here! (where are you Godner, Bojo, et al?)

  277. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Does either Hal or Cashman pay you to write this nonsense??

    this was funny he-he-he

  278. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:49 pm
    Does either Hal or Cashman pay you to write this nonsense??
    —————-
    I’m sorry if facts upset you; I understand they don’t quite fit with your agenda. Please tell me which of the four items above is not correct and why.

  279. Unnamed June 23rd, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Hiya Bret!

  280. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Good luck w that Glenn.

    Be sure to carry a bottle of drano around w you.

    ;)

  281. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Let me help you Scott.

    1. They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. Fact.

    2. They have declared their intention to spend big in the international market. Fact.

    They have primarily moved away from drafting high-risk and high-reward high school ballplayers in favor of more seasoned college ones. Fact.

    The Yankee farm system has developed more than a few quality ballplayers. Fact.

  282. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Mike – :D

  283. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:52 pm
    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:49 pm
    Does either Hal or Cashman pay you to write this nonsense??
    —————-
    I’m sorry if facts upset you; I understand they don’t quite fit with your agenda. Please tell me which of the four items above is not correct and why.

    You are a true believer in unicorns. Aforementioned plan is working well. The team is well-positioned to compete not only this year, but for years to come.

  284. yankeefeminista June 23rd, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Enjoy the drano. Think I’ll pass. See you on the other side.

  285. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    On the plus side, we somehow generated nearly 300 comments during these past almost 3 hours. Good exciting baseball will stir the crowd.

  286. chicken_stanley June 23rd, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Catch you all later

  287. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    As I thought, you can’t dispute one thing I posted. The plan is a work in progress as all ball clubs plans are. The international commitment on this level is new, the switch in draft philosophies is relatively new.

  288. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Given that this team could average 4 runs a game and Kelley is back, could we gamble with Betances. I want to be there in October and am just looking for ways to stay in the hunt.
    ///

    Hank,

    I think the risk is greatly overstated when it comes to Betances. It just doesn’t appear to be on the radar, unfortunately.

    If Ramirez is potentially on-deck for that fifth spot, then that would at least be a huge upgrade. He’s not Dellin, but he’s the closest thing we have to him that could conceivably pick up that assignment.

  289. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    When will the hitting approach be new?

  290. bruceb June 23rd, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    Now the SP sucks and the offense is in its umpteenth slump of the season. Dangerous combination.

  291. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Let me help you Scott.

    1. They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. Fact.

    2. They have declared their intention to spend big in the international market. Fact.

    They have primarily moved away from drafting high-risk and high-reward high school ballplayers in favor of more seasoned college ones. Fact.

    The Yankee farm system has developed more than a few quality ballplayers. Fact.
    ======================

    1. They have a declining payroll

    2. Big as in like 10-15 million dollars. Chump change, they should have been doing it very year and not just when there are penalties in place

    3. College players also have a high bust rate. Drafting is only part of the story, development is just as big

    4. Every farm system has developed a few. Yankees have produced fewer MLB AB for position players from their farm system of any team since 1996. Fact.

  292. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Whitley and Tanaka games used to be givens. Now its up to Phelps, Kuroda and Nuno to stop the skid

  293. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    Belisario is about to blow another one. BAL down one, with 2 on and none out in the 9th.

  294. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    We used to have a poster here, a lady, named “m”.

    She was from Hawaii and really knew her baseball.

    Mostly she would post in the late hours because of the time difference.

    She used to call games like this one “Etch-A-Sketch” games.

    You erase and start over again.

    Etch-A-Sketch.

    ;)

  295. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:05 pm
    As I said they have and will continue to have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. That it has declined some just reflects a more rational business approach. They will still outspend almost every other team in MLB.

    The switch to placing a greater emphasis on college ballplayers is a decided and intentional change in reaction to a draft strategy that for the most part was not working well as you pointed out in your comment on position players. Development is a word thrown around that many do not understand. The Yankees hire the same capable and competent baseball pros that all clubs do; it’s in the end a crap shoot.

  296. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    pete — Good points. I think that SweetSpot is actually a plant by the organization to try to deflect valid criticism. I shouldn’t even have responded in the first place. My bad.

  297. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    Whitley had never really established much of a track record.

    Very small sample.

    He’s got a ways to go before you can say you can “count” on him.

    ;)

  298. Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    SweetSpot. You’re outnumbered, objective thinking is not allowed and there’s no middle of the road either. It’s a different culture at the lohud.

  299. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:13 pm
    pete — Good points. I think that SweetSpot is actually a plant by the organization to try to deflect valid criticism. I shouldn’t even have responded in the first place. My bad.
    ___________

    Couldn’t find the Red Sox blog?

  300. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm
    Whitley had never really established much of a track record.

    Very small sample.

    He’s got a ways to go before you can say you can “count” on him.

    ;)

    He’s still better than Nuno. :)

  301. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Orioles walk off on Davis HR. Misery compounded

  302. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Chris Davis hits the walk-off HR against Belisario (what a shocker!). Yanks now alone in 3rd place.

  303. yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    The one good thing is that there are not many heartbreaking losses. We get murdered.
    Everyone was unanimous on the McCann signing. Just shows you that you can’t predict baseball Suzyn.
    We can win the next two in Toronto.
    I have to believe that Hal will allow Cash to do something fairly large fairly soon. This is becoming a disgrace.
    No matter the reasons, with our payroll we should not have a worse record than Seattle and KC.

  304. bigdan22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Well that wasn’t pleasant. But such is the life of young pitchers. Part of the pain of transition. It’s what he learns from starts like this and what adjustments he makes in his next few outings that are key. Phelps seemed to learn from his recent failures. Let’s see if Whitley can do. The auditions continue. . . .

    Goes without saying, the Yanks need to retool their lineup next off season. Need to get Younger and Better. Melky could fit that mold. Nice line drive hitter with power. Reminds me of the 90s guys.

    Pirela with two hits and a homer tonight. All he does is it hit .320. Damn shame.

  305. bigdan22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Team is in serious need of a Saturday Night Massacre.

  306. pat June 23rd, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Joelsherman1
    Column http://nyp.st/1iAiALx Tanaka now lined up to miss AS Gm, which is good for #Yankees, bad for MLB.

  307. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    The top 3 Teams are bunched tight.

    It’s there for the taking.

    Being in 3rd with things this close is meaningless.

    No one seems all that able to pull away.

    Win the next 2 and the whole complexion might be different.

    Can’t look at the Microcosm.

    Got to look at the Macrocosm.

    Yankees need to improve and get on a ROLL.

    Get help Brian. We can take this.

    ;)

  308. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm
    SweetSpot. You’re outnumbered, objective thinking is not allowed and there’s no middle of the road either. It’s a different culture at the lohud.
    —————
    It is an interesting culture here. Kind of fun though if you love baseball! The reality is when you post the Yankees record for the last ten years and point out the new parity in baseball, etc., they have no comeback except to make comments about unicorns and being on someone’s payroll. They don’t have anything to say.

  309. bruceb June 23rd, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Hard to see the Yanks finishing in front of the Orioles right now considering they have a much better lineup than ours and their starting pitching looks to have the greater depth, even without an ace. They would be a slam dunk to win the division if they signed Samardzjia or someone of similar stature.

  310. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    The one good thing is that there are not many heartbreaking losses. We get murdered.

    Yeah, without an offense, once you’re down 3 or more, it’s game over. I would be thrilled if the Yanks won one during this series. Not sure they do.

  311. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:05 pm
    As I said they have and will continue to have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. That it has declined some just reflects a more rational business approach. They will still outspend almost every other team in MLB.

    The switch to placing a greater emphasis on college ballplayers is a decided and intentional change in reaction to a draft strategy that for the most part was not working well as you pointed out in your comment on position players. Development is a word thrown around that many do not understand. The Yankees hire the same capable and competent baseball pros that all clubs do; it’s in the end a crap shoot.
    =============================================

    Yes, the draft and development are a crap shoot and the changes you mention may or may not pay off in 5 years.

    Meanwhile, the more rational business approach reduces their advantage that massive revenues have given them, and which played a large part of their success over the past 10 years.

    So looking ahead the next 3 years, Hals budget is going to have to increase significantly or I will have to really watch more womens beach volleyball. :lol:

  312. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Easier on the eyes Pete.

    Consider that.

    ;)

  313. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Good interview with Whit. Just didn’t have it tonight, said the game sped up on him, no command, etc.

    The problem is, we have too many command-reliant starters. This is why Jose Ramirez, if he can bounce back from the rust and the oblique is behind him, should be strongly considered for that spot.

  314. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    The one good thing is that there are not many heartbreaking losses. We get murdered.

    Yeah, without an offense, once you’re down 3 or more, it’s game over. I would be thrilled if the Yanks won one during this series. Not sure they do.
    ========================

    Gonna have to listen to me Scott. I predicted the last winning road trip after all. I think they win one at least of these next 2 games. Blue Jays without Bautista and Lawrie.

    We have owned the Red Sox who are up next, and their offense is even worse than the Yankees.

    I also predicted 1st place by July 1, or mentioned it was possible, and this is still on. Blue Jays are in their summer swoon.

  315. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    So looking ahead the next 3 years, Hals budget is going to have to increase significantly or I will have to really watch more womens beach volleyball. :lol:

    pete, you’re arguing with the shill again. He’s one of Hal’s minions. He’s incapable of looking forward.

  316. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm
    Hals budget is going to have to increase significantly or I will have to really watch more womens beach volleyball.
    _____________

    Hey! You ever see Marketa Slukova dig one?

  317. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    See you all for the Etch-A-Sketch tomorrow.

    And for the Breakfast club.

    Remember breakfast is the most important meal of the Day.

    Night all.

    :)

  318. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Easier on the eyes Pete.

    Consider that.

    ;)
    =======================

    Only problem is I can never keep up with the score or who is playing whom, embarrassing when the wife asks me and I can’t answer or get caught fabricating the score/teams

  319. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm
    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    The one good thing is that there are not many heartbreaking losses. We get murdered.

    Yeah, without an offense, once you’re down 3 or more, it’s game over. I would be thrilled if the Yanks won one during this series. Not sure they do.
    ========================

    Gonna have to listen to me Scott. I predicted the last winning road trip after all. I think they win one at least of these next 2 games. Blue Jays without Bautista and Lawrie.

    We have owned the Red Sox who are up next, and their offense is even worse than the Yankees.

    I also predicted 1st place by July 1, or mentioned it was possible, and this is still on. Blue Jays are in their summer swoon.
    =============================================================

    We’ll see, pete. I think it’s more likely that BOS catches the Yanks (not by July 1st, however) than the Yanks catch TOR or BAL. Sox pitching is strong. I’d like to be wrong. We’ll see how the next week plays out.

  320. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 10:14 pm
    SweetSpot. You’re outnumbered, objective thinking is not allowed and there’s no middle of the road either. It’s a different culture at the lohud.

    oh Pat M. there is nothing objective about the below post (which was good) it was rather histrionic and no so “middle of the road”

    “Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    It’s a mess looking ahead because it’s all about day to day , season to season and no blueprint in sight”

    doesn’t sound that “middle-of-the-road” if it’s a “mess looking ahead” and “no blueprint in sight” it actually sounds as if you would disagree with sweetspot and his faith in Yankees high command

  321. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    No offense Scott but you do tend to be a “tad” pessimistic.

    :)

  322. Missing Cano June 23rd, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    it is a cake and eat it too routine

  323. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Hey! You ever see Marketa Slukova dig one?
    ===================

    I dunno, I have trouble keeping up with the names for some reason. Just googled her, I dig it

  324. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    Scott, I do worry about Boston if they can hit like they are capable of. Same can be said of Yankee hitters though

  325. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:31 pm
    No offense Scott but you do tend to be a “tad” pessimistic.

    :)

    MTU — No offense taken. I do lean toward the glass half empty side, I’ll admit. However, it’s hard to argue that this team is well run and is guided by anything resembling a strategic plan.

    I hate what’s happened to this team and I hate what I see ahead for the next few years at least.

  326. J. Alfred Prufrock June 23rd, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    Whitley is a converted OF. He’s doing pretty damn well. I’m sure there are plenty of middling career starters who would love to have his changeup and slider.

  327. MTU June 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Scott-

    Maybe your vision is a little blurred or your crystal ball needs fixin’ ?

    Now I really do need to go and get some shuteye.

    Old Men need their rest.

    :)

  328. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    bruceb June 23rd, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Hard to see the Yanks finishing in front of the Orioles right now considering they have a much better lineup than ours and their starting pitching looks to have the greater depth, even without an ace. They would be a slam dunk to win the division if they signed Samardzjia or someone of similar stature.
    ==========================

    I do think the team that improves itself the most via trade between now and the deadline is going to be the favorite. Teams that stand pat hoping for positive regression or help from the farm, or from returns of players with significant/chronic injuries are likely to be disappointed

  329. Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    SweetSpot. I remember being told a long time ago that you’ll learn far more about this game when you try to understand the logic of trades and transaction as well as decisions on the field rather than just pissing and moaning about things. After all isn’t that what the media is for, pissing and moaning ???? Peel back the layers of an onion and you’ll know what an onion really is all about . All we get around here is the constant surface ragging because of one’s personal agenda. We get to maybe know 1/100 of the information the club has yet we’re so prone to just go on a tirade. It’s all part of the new internet baseball fan culture…..

  330. yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    We just saw the difference between the Orioles and us. Power.
    We have equal starters. The Yanks have a better pen. We have a classier manager. They have power. Remember when we regularly slammed 200 or more a season?
    The lack of power is what will do us in.
    Being positive, I just can’t believe that Beltran and McCann are this bad. They will get better, right?
    Lead Ellsbury off. And if you must bat Jeter second, then move Gardner to ninth.
    Ellsbury, Jeter, Beltran, Tex, Quentin, McCann, Johnson/Solarte, Pirela, Gardner
    This winter, get power. And once you get some then get more power. And then add another power hitter.
    It will be until at least 2019 before the payroll can drop under 230. So suck it up Hal. Spend the money. Or sell. Otherwise go hide out with Jeff Wilpon.

  331. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    It will be until at least 2019 before the payroll can drop under 230.

    A large albatross to carry for the next few years.

  332. SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Great insightful post Pat M. You hit the nail right on the head; the average fan knows so little about what goes on behind the scenes. It’s like a jury issuing a verdict without having seen the evidence. It’s very knee-jerk and superficial and only sees what’s floating on the surface.

  333. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    The one good thing is that there are not many heartbreaking losses. We get murdered.
    Everyone was unanimous on the McCann signing. Just shows you that you can’t predict baseball

    ——————————-

    Not everyone was unanimous. I was strongly against it

  334. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    yankinvegas June 23rd, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Being positive, I just can’t believe that Beltran and McCann are this bad. They will get better, right?

    ===========================

    McCann was pretty bad in 2012. Last year was a contract year. Beltran is hurt, which is more apparent from the left side.

    Ellsbury playing at his career numbers. Tex is fine. Soriano has not had his hot spell and may not have one playing as little as he is now. Ichiro and Solarte fading a bit after a good start. Just getting a chance to see what KJ can do. Gardner has been solid. Jeter and Roberts have been brutal except for the occasional good series.

    I can see the offense getting better with positive regression. How much better I can’t say, its going to come down to McCann and Beltran and Soriano. A more optimal batting order could help marginally but is not a cure-all.

  335. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    Just checking the scores of past games. I counted 12 times that the Yanks have given up 8 or more runs in a game and 5 times that they scored that many. I honestly thought the difference was greater.

  336. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    SweetSpot June 23rd, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Great insightful post Pat M. You hit the nail right on the head; the average fan knows so little about what goes on behind the scenes. It’s like a jury issuing a verdict without having seen the evidence. It’s very knee-jerk and superficial and only sees what’s floating on the surface.
    ======================

    Baseball has been that way for 100 years. Used to be guys sitting in bars and at the park, now its internet too, nothings changed

    Whats floating on the surface is a teams W-L record and the numbers. With far less information voters elect Presidents and Senators.

    If there were behind the scene information that would put management in a favorable light we would hear about it. These guys are adept at manipulating and controlling the media

  337. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    Just checking the scores of past games. I counted 12 times that the Yanks have given up 8 or more runs in a game and 5 times that they scored that many. I honestly thought the difference was greater.
    ====================

    The pitching has been pretty good since CC left the rotation. In fact, so many close games to the limpid offense has stretched the pen at times and caused the occasional blip. Many of those high scoring games against were due to the 6th and 7th guys in the pen giving up a ton of runs in a lost cause, and all of them are long gone now

  338. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    pete — Basically, 1 thru 4 in the lineup need to produce, because we’re getting next to nothing from 5 thru 9. It’s tough to win with that kind of handicap. I think everyone in slots 5 – 9 but Ichiro, who is just punch-and-judy, is hitting below .240 or thereabouts. I’m not counting Ryan, who has had a minimal number of ABs.

  339. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    I guess I’ll sign off for now. Take care pete/all.

  340. bigdan22 June 23rd, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    About a month ago I said I felt this team’s winning percentage was capped at about .520 and that’s if everything goes right. And it probably won’t. This is who the Yanks are. Win one, lose two, win two, lose one. It’s been like all year except for maybe a week in April.

    The team could get marginally better and therefore more competitive with a smart trade or two and some farm talent infusion but they are not likely to get significantly better. They need another good off season for that. If they continue around their current pace I imagine they’ll still be in the running for a WC with a bunch of other teams till August or so.

    The key is stay strategic and keep trying to get Younger and Better. The difficulties some of the younger players are having now may help them succeed in the future. And if that doesn’t happens the team will find out soon enough that they are not part of the solution and move on.

    2014. Transition Year. Let the kids play.

  341. NYY_Girl_Penny June 23rd, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    not saying cashman doesnt deserve some blame but the ignorant mob that is calling for his head is so far from reality .. How can you blame Cashman when since 2009 WS win he wasnt allowed to do anything but dumpster dive thanks to Hal focused on his budget… then when Hal released the chains in 2014, against Cashman’s suggestions they go out and sign every available free agent mot named Cano.. point is, id love to see you do your job if you were kept locked in a basement,ignored and your boss amd cronies making moves that you 100% didnt agree with..

    but i know, u guys are way too smart to waste your time thinking about the truth when you can point your finger at the scapegoat

  342. NYY_Girl_Penny June 23rd, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    McCann is catching up to .200 .. can we DFA this loser?

  343. sammiejohnson June 23rd, 2014 at 11:30 pm

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    (First.)

  344. Pat M. June 23rd, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    Cashman showed up at The Winter Meetings in December 2011 under the orders that he couldn’t sign anyone without getting prior approval. Not even a clubhouse kid.

  345. G. Love June 23rd, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    I’ve been posting here far longer than many of you and the entire time I’ve done it under the same name.

    All this lamenting and moaning and groaning over a couple of rah rah cheerleaders missing is really pathetic and makes a lot of you look like a jilted sewing circle.

    If all you want is a constant loop of “The Yankees know better than the fans” I’m not sure why you come in here to discuss baseball.

    What’s there to discuss if that’s all you believe? You need a site full of people all espousing the same ridiculous belief to be happy?

    If the fans who come in here can’t feel free to criticize the team then there’s little point for anyone to come here and chasing off the few left willing to discuss baseball and how they view the game without the bullying and antagonistic games is refreshing.

    And it’s plainly obvious to anyone with eyes who some of these “new” names are on here.

    This place was at it’s best when people could talk freely about the Yankees without trolls, disguised Red Sox fans and drooling cheerleaders shouted louder than the rest of us.

    I give Chad a tremendous amount of credit for cleaning this place up. The fact is the team is very flawed right now. The plan building it over the years was very flawed. If you don’t like our discussing those facts along with other decisions we agree and disagree with, leave. This is the wrong place for you.

    If you want a vacuum of shiny happy people who just think the way you do, go make that place. This will never be it.

  346. G. Love June 23rd, 2014 at 11:35 pm

    Okay, so if Cashman’s been neutered by ownership, isn’t it right of people on this blog to criticize ownership for having an empty chair at GM running the biggest sports franchise in the world?

    Isn’t that reprehensible behavior for an organization that charges fans some of the highest prices across the board to support their team?

    Or is that an example of their “infinite wisdom” and how they are smarter than those of us criticizing the team?

  347. ScottinSJ June 23rd, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    I give Chad a tremendous amount of credit for cleaning this place up. The fact is the team is very flawed right now. The plan building it over the years was very flawed. If you don’t like our discussing those facts along with other decisions we agree and disagree with, leave. This is the wrong place for you.

    If you want a vacuum of shiny happy people who just think the way you do, go make that place. This will never be it.

    Very well said.

  348. pete22 June 23rd, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    Thing is, the Yankees are “presently” a 520 team in a division where 550 probably wins the division. They need to get marginally better. Hardly Mission Impossible. Those 30 percentage points are an extra 5 wins over 1/2 a season. Just need 1-2 impact trades of roll of the dice prospects and a bit of positive regression and they own the division and have to postpone vacation plans.

    Whether they want it or not I have no idea

  349. G. Love June 23rd, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    ScottinSJ,

    I’m tired of it. I think the team is so boring and disappointing sometimes that all people do is come in here and bemoan the loss of past posters and the good old days while ignoring that the reason we’re all here is to follow a team that is struggling just as much as it’s winning.

    When your favorite team is the team with the most money and they make ludicrous decisions like go north with Brian Roberts, Kelly Johnson and a plan to rely on Pineda who hasn’t pitched healthy since the first half of his rookie season in Seattle, it’s upsetting.

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