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Lohud Yankees chat at noon (but first, a survey)

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We’re always trying to improve things around here, and the good folks at the Lohud home office have come up with a survey to get a sense of ways we can upgrade the current Lohud Yankees Blog, while also exploring ways to generate new and different content through various other platforms. If you have a minute, please take the time to answer a few questions. You can access the survey through this link, or it should be embedded in this very blog post. There’s some mention of a Yankee Stadium tour with me, and I have no idea what that’s about, so apparently the home office is looking into new things for all of us.

Now that the Yankees have lost three in a row, it seems we should have plenty to talk about later today, so don’t forget we’re doing a chat at noon. Stop by for a while and we’ll see if we can all agree on a way to fix the Yankees. In the meantime, check out the survey.

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135 Responses to “Lohud Yankees chat at noon (but first, a survey)”

  1. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Oh man, nothing like pressing that ‘single’ button before 10:00am.

    How’s everyone doing today?

  2. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    just a side note, Jose Abreu would have brought youth and star power to this team. his offensive production approximate the total of McCann, Ellsbury and Beltran…it speaks to his talents and how much bargain WS are getting for their money spent.

  3. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 9:07 am

    I’m assuming we’ve already been talking about the JS to the Blue Jays rumors?

    That’d blow. #Analysis

  4. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Doing just fine Shame.

    Surveys like this always make me think you’re like six months away from needing a paid subscription to access these blogs.

  5. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    morning, chip and shame.

  6. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Jeeze – I stopped posting here at about 5 yesterday. 14 hours later the exact same discussion is still going on????

    Let it go. As I said yesterday, the transactions that were or weren’t made over this winter aren’t the problem. The problem was the organizational failure that landed the team in a place last winter with so many holes to fill:

    Not extending Cano when he came to them about it
    Poor use of draft picks
    Poor development of internal talent
    Poor scouting of international talent
    Poor timing on the drive to $189 (which led to the team looking for short term options rather than long term solutions)

  7. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    The Yankees cannot replace some of the highly paid slumping hitters. It will not happen. However, for the life of me, I can’t understand running out our infield of Solarte, Johnson and Roberts and Soriano ever at the plate.

    SWB has no pitching but they hit. Why in heaven’s name don’t they replace the players who do and and will not hit? Johnson and Roberts are exactly who they are. Soriano has a good at bat when he makes contact.

    This team will not only not make the playoffs, but will be out of any race in a month absent changes. They will not keep winning more than they lose with their horrendous run differential. As last year, the pitching will implode with no easy days ever.

    Of course the Jays will add a good pitcher. Meanwhile, we will be waiting for an old guy who we can make the other team pick up most of his salary to move him. That’s sure to improve things. They will tell us they are trying–to win in 2008.

  8. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    they haven’t reach critical mass yet, that be prolly 5 under… then you will see some offensive changes.

    sit back and enjoy the show Mac.

  9. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Cashmoney says:
    June 24, 2014 at 8:58 am
    Yankees having only Jeter on All Star game is a statement of positional players not having a good year but more so having little star appeal, I think manbam is the closest but that won’t happen til 15. The most exciting thing that is happening this year could be NYY’s splurge in IFA.
    _____
    Former Yankees will represent on All Star team like Cano and Melky, but we have no elite players with a couple of OFs as the exception. Same old.

    And austinmac, this is what I’ve been saying. Yes Trenton et al is more fun to watch than both this Yankee team and teams in recent past. Thank God for the minors. Luckily AL East generally continues to struggle; if we have any chance we need to make tracks in this upcoming AL East series. Still waiting for JRam to get the reps and get that swing and miss changeup into his repertoire. If he does, I’d rather he get into a game piggybacking if they don’t let him start at the first sign of Nuno getting in trouble. Use our current minor league approach of three innings for the back end starter like Nuno, then go to JRam for three.

    Good to see the troll regulars posting under new names about everything but baseball last night. :roll: Do people need to be here so badly that they fabricate names to still try to control blog discussion? You can’t make this stuff up!

  10. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    Mac –

    I’m with you 100%. I don’t understand what the team thinks it would be risking by cutting Roberts and promoting Pirela.

    Is Roberts going to catch on somewhere else and hit .330? No.
    Is Pirela going to be any worse than what they’re getting from Roberts? Not likely.

    Again, I think it’s a perception thing. I think in Yankee-land they believe that if you move out a veteran for an unknown then fans will take it as a sign of surrender. It’s a thought that’s made more insane when you look at how it worked out last time the Yankees moved a struggling veteran at 2b and put in an unknown kid. Womack went to the OF and Robinson Cano had himself a pretty good career as a Yankee. (no I am not saying Pirela is Robinson Cano).

    The only thing I can think of is that the Yankees don’t want to release Roberts in case they have to trade Pirela and/or Refsnyder in the next couple of weeks and then be left without an option at 2b. Even if that were the case though, would the team be that much worse off with Scott Sizemore or Dean Anna at 2b than they are today?

  11. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Good to see you have returned, Shame.

    I was hoping the resident psychopath hadn’t run you off.

  12. Mike in Harrisburg June 24th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    “So here’s the elevator to the press box. And here’s the press box. And over there’s the press box bathroom.

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Surveys like this always make me think you’re like six months away from needing a paid subscription to access these blogs.
    ////

    Well then, the five people who would actually pay to post here will have a great time talking to each other I guess.

    Imagine paying for a site on which a hacker casually interacts with “regulars” and joins in with them to troll other regulars. No thanks.

    That survey? Yeah, I’m going to fill it out, uhuh. I don’t really even know if some of this multiples stuff is coming from without or within around here.

    What I do know is, it’s incredibly lax and I’m really tired of reading personal information posted about people whom I sympathize very much with for having to deal with that crap here, but whom I have no curiosity about, in terms of their “private’ info (therefore, I’m not sure what purpose it serves, since, I’m willing to bet, no one else cares about knowing their “real” names and other information about their lives, either).

    What has been revealed, however, with all the BS that goes on here, is who has a sense of responsibility towards this place and who doesn’t. That’s been very eye opening. The ones who do, I can count on one hand, and I thank them for caring, no matter the “opinion” of who is being ambushed ATM. (Thanks, Tar, the departed Randyl, GLove and……???)

    In sum: I’m not paying Lohud to post here. I already pay for PinstripesPlus, but that’s because it provides a unique service. Interestingly, there are no troll factions on that site…. and there is never discussion about the discussion…hmmm… maybe Lohud is onto something….

    Hey Shame – don’t let the relatives get to ya! You’re what, in your mid-20′s? Relax ;)

  14. Mike in Harrisburg June 24th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    ..Down there’s the field.”

  15. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    SWB has no pitching but they hit.
    ______
    Same with Trenton to a lesser degree. They’re often down by a couple or more runs before they even come to bat. Before we had Dellin and Manny and then JRam. Now we have marginal starters and no elite arm ready to move up. But at least the offense is fun… Still I prefer to watch elite pitching. Wonder if De Paula ever has a true out/breaking pitch… Or like all our other higher up elite arms sans Manny is too destined for the bullpen… I can’t wait for Severino to get to Trenton. He’s my next SP hope. #pitchingprospectoptimism!

  16. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Reading through some of the conversation yesterday is kinda funny… I’ve been posting here since 2007 and literally cannot remember a time when people were not lamenting the state of the blog. Specifically game threads lmao!

  17. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Fem, question, Is Pirela a major league infielder defensively?

  18. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    GF – Nah, I’m a lifer. ;)

  19. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Good morning again

    Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 8:28 am
    Luis Severino or is it Savior?

    “Listed at 6-foot-0, 195 pounds, Severino presents as lean and athletic on the mound. A lack of muscle development through the shoulders and a loose, fluid delivery points to a pitcher with room to fill out and add strength without sacrificing agility. In terms of present size-versus-arm strength, Luis Severino is the most explosive South Atlantic League pitcher scouted since Julio Teheran a few years ago.

    Severino’s fastball explodes on hitters. His arm speed is electric, allowing the right-hander to play catch at 95 MPH. Throughout the game, he sat 92-95 MPH, touching 97 when in need of a strikeout. Present control of the fastball was a strength and Severino was able to throw strikes to both sides of the plate. Against Rome Braves hitters, Severino attacked with the fastball and forced lesser batters to make adjustments. They didn’t. If not for a brief lapse where Luis Severino threw too many off-speed pitches, he was close to unhittable.

    Even more impressive is the fact Severino fails to fully incorporate his lower half when delivering a pitch. As a short strider who lands on a stiff front leg, the right-hander generates velocity from his “whippy” arm action. Until Admittedly, this causes additional stress on the arm and screams reliever, but Luis Severino has agility and a strong feel for pitching. The mechanics will improve.”

  20. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    JAP – that was pretty intense…do you need a hug?

  21. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Chip,

    I was pleased with the team trying this winter. You are right it could not be fixed in one winter. It is the team going into neutral for the years before and the decayed farm system that led to this point.

    I will be curious to see what they do in the upcoming month. Winter could come very early at the Stadium.

  22. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Good to see you have returned, Shame.

    I was hoping the resident psychopath hadn’t run you off.
    ///

    Oh, man, I left you ou. GF is also a protector of the place and doesn’t pretend what’s going on, isn’t. Kudos.

    By the way, GF, that resident IMO is someone who has been a “regular” here for years. Nope, I’m not going there, but that’s my gut.

  23. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Fem, question, Is Pirela a major league infielder defensively?
    ——————–

    I’ve asked Donnie Collins that question. His response was that he’s gotten better. He makes the routine plays well enough but won’t be confused with Cano defensively. That ultimately he thinks his future is in doing what the Yankees are having him do which is move around the diamond and be a better offensive version of Eduardo Nunez.

  24. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    “Looking back on those previous years where the Yankees finished with a SP +/- 30 points from their June 23 record

    2010 (-.039)
    2009 (+.093)
    2007 (+.080)
    2005 (+.072)

    So, 4 out of 9 years. Not so unlikely it can happen this year.”

    ——

    Pete22, my statement that the Yankees will most likely play out the remainder of their schedule at a winning percentage plus/minus .020 of where they are now was reflection of what most baseball teams do not just the Yankees. It seems like you went back nine years and found four Yankee teams who’s records did deviate by more than .020 (actually more than .030) for the remainder of the season (post June 23). Three of those teams performed significantly better post June 23, the ’09, ’07 and ’05 teams.

    Did you compare the current ’14 team to those three teams to see if there were any similarities? I’d look at the run differential, record in close games (two runs or less), pitching rankings and offense rankings (runs per game). As I said last night, I believe the current team, with a minus 35 run differential, is fortunate to be playing three games over .500 right now and that’s reflected in their winning percentage in close games. I wonder if the “peripherals” of the ’09, ’07, and ’05 teams reflected that they were under-performing or over-performing their record on June 23 before they went on their extended positive runs.

  25. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Chip, guess your personal info hasn’ t been revealed. Or your friends/children havent been threatened. So you dont care. Bully for you. Stay under the radar, my friend.

  26. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Morning everybody!

    Have been sick as a dog for days…so it feels good to be up and about. I made it from the bed to the computer…thats a start.

    YF

    I back read a little bit… but thought Glove’s post was a great retort (as usual) to those who like to control the discussion.

    Chip

    A paid subscription would be the way to go with Lohud. I would do it in a heartbeat….. if it would help with all the nonsense. Seems like that would be a great way to get rid of multiples.

    But I doubt they would do that because they are looking for page hits. That survey was just trying to fine tune their demographics so they can better sell their advertisements.

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    JAP – that was pretty intense…do you need a hug?
    ///

    Chip – Not funny. You have kids? How’d you like it if that split personality person were posting their names and defaming them? Probably you’d be less cheeky.

  28. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Mac, you fail to see the big picture, it is obvious from a post I read yesterday that your baseball acumen is limited at best, especially since you could not understand how, if the Y’s BP, was deeper, they should have swept the O’s this past weekend, even given the fact that they scored one run over two games.

    PS: I hope you know I am only kidding, and am referring to a response you made yesterday, to a specific post about how it was possible for the Y’s to have swept the O’s based on the aforementioned lack of runs. And the answer you received was a rude personal attack, which, in your usual class demeanor you correctly ignored the pompous blather.

  29. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Pirela was average defensively at 2B and abominable at SS. Not someone to get excited about. He is more a BU IF IMO, but haven’t seen him play live in two years.

  30. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:44 am

    thanks Chip, at this point I like to see, but really think Yanks will hold on to what they have unless they sunk under 500. To which, it might or might not happens.

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    GLove’s post was a laser, but lmao, does anyone believe that stevemoore is anything but another multiple? Yeah, the “I’ve never posted here before, but, as an observer…” thing is really convincing. :roll:

  32. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:46 am

    austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Chip,

    I was pleased with the team trying this winter. You are right it could not be fixed in one winter. It is the team going into neutral for the years before and the decayed farm system that led to this point.

    I will be curious to see what they do in the upcoming month. Winter could come very early at the Stadium.
    —————————–

    The Yankees are at a crossroads with a few options.

    1. They hold after last year’s outlay of money and try again for $189 with a target of 2017 when Tex, Alex, CC and Tanaka are off the books and go back to the patchwork model of 2012 and 2013.

    2. They hold after last year’s outlay and commit to playing younger players rather than going for patchwork veterans. Giving guys like Pirela, Refsnyder, Roller, O’Brien and Almonte legitimate chances to play key roles.

    3. They double down on this past winter’s spending and bring in guys like Headley or Sandoval to play 3b or Rasmus (or yes even Melky) to play RF and add a Jon Lester to the rotation.

    My guess is that they go with number 3. A young player or two might get a shot (Refsnyder to beat out Solarte to play 2b) but other than that I think they saw last year and will see again this year that being dark in October costs more than paying out the tax bill.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Tar,

    Hope ya feel better. Burning it at both ends?

  34. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Does anyone know if opposing teams have hit more homers to RF in YS than the Yankees, 17-18 at home, have?

    Tar-glad you are Mobile.

    Group Hug-OK!

  35. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:37 am

    JAP – that was pretty intense…do you need a hug?
    ///

    Chip – Not funny. You have kids? How’d you like it if that split personality person were posting their names and defaming them? Probably you’d be less cheeky.
    ————————–

    I have no idea what happened last night. I was referencing your point about the potential for having to pay to be on this site.

    Sorry for any offense.

  36. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    J ALfred

    Morning :D Thanks

    Just read your post…I don’t think a hacker or psychopathy would pay multiple times after being banned. In addition wouldn’t they have to give CC info? I really doubt Lohud would do it anyway…

  37. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    He makes the routine plays well enough but won’t be confused with Cano defensively
    ____\
    LOL, talk about understatement. Instead of lamenting not playing marginal IF, can we get real baseball players, you know not dumpsters or AAAA players… Now there’s a thought.

    Tar! I hope you are feeling better!

  38. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    1. They hold after last year’s outlay of money and try again for $189 with a target of 2017 when Tex, Alex, CC and Tanaka are off the books and go back to the patchwork model of 2012 and 2013.
    ———-
    Chip-

    Isn’t the current CBA only good thru 2016?

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    I’ve asked Donnie Collins that question. His response was that he’s gotten better. He makes the routine plays well enough but won’t be confused with Cano defensively.
    ///

    He’s better than Corban Joseph ;)

  40. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Tar, yes GLove always gets to the heart of the matter. Did you see I added a soundtrack to accompany his post? :)

  41. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    He makes the routine plays well enough but won’t be confused with Cano defensively
    ____\
    LOL, talk about understatement. Instead of lamenting not playing marginal IF, can we get real baseball players, you know not dumpsters or AAAA players… Now there’s a thought.
    ——————————-
    We can – but right now Pirela (offensively) would be a tremendous upgrade from Roberts and defensively wouldn’t be that much of a drop off – so rather than whining about things we would have to go out and find, the Yankees could improve themselves simply by playing what they already have.

  42. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    as far as 16-18 year old goes, IFA draftees are miles away from panning out, but some of the names and scouting report I been reading about Garcia, Pak and Mateo is kind of exciting.

    need to curb my enthusiasm.

  43. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Not sure what bug got me, but it’s been awful. Thanks for well wishes.

    YT

    I feel better after that hug :D

  44. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    1. They hold after last year’s outlay of money and try again for $189 with a target of 2017 when Tex, Alex, CC and Tanaka are off the books and go back to the patchwork model of 2012 and 2013.
    ———-
    Chip-

    Isn’t the current CBA only good thru 2016?
    —————————

    I believe so – but I imagine that this clause would still exist in the new CBA.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Tar,

    Yes clearly you are correct that it’s for more targeted marketing purposes, but if it were to come to that, the site might weed out some of those people (that person??). As you point out, probably won’t come to that.

  46. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:50 am

    I’ve asked Donnie Collins that question. His response was that he’s gotten better. He makes the routine plays well enough but won’t be confused with Cano defensively.
    ///

    He’s better than Corban Joseph
    ————–

    Careful – or I’m going to ask you if there have been any reports about Jesus Montero having splinters from all the time he’s spending on the bench.

  47. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    “I don’t think a hacker or psychopathy would pay multiple times after being banned”
    _____
    I disagree. Unfortunately, the banned posters can’t stay away. They would no doubt pay to keep their Lohud “eligibility.”

  48. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 9:53 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Oh, man, I left you ou. GF is also a protector of the place and doesn’t pretend what’s going on, isn’t. Kudos.

    By the way, GF, that resident IMO is someone who has been a “regular” here for years. Nope, I’m not going there, but that’s my gut.

    —–

    All I know is his name is Mike and his original moniker is CR 9. Well, and he’s a psychopath who deserves a thorough beat down.

    I’ve never had any issues with him posting my personal info because he can’t find anything on me. It’s sad people have to go to such a degree to protect their identity but having accounts on any of the social networking sites leaves you vulnerable to his attacks.

    I’ve never been the social networking type (I’ve always thought Facebook was for 16 yr old high school girls but I’m in the minority) and I didn’t use my real name or primary email address to register here.

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    I have no idea what happened last night. I was referencing your point about the potential for having to pay to be on this site.

    Sorry for any offense.
    ///

    Oh, ok. Sorry then.

  50. Mike in Harrisburg June 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    This is not original or revelatory but what has put me off commenting (and really even going through the comments) has been the lack of moderation.

    I’m sure you could find volunteers (or an intern) to mod comments and keep things more on topic and less inflammatory. I’ve been here since the blog was started by Pete, and IMO there’s still a lot of wheat, but also far more chaff.

  51. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    I’ve said this several times before, I don’t see the Yanks releasing Roberts, or even relegating him to the bench as long as he’s healthy. They just love this guy too much.

    But I’ve also said I believe a time will come when some changes will be made. I said yesterday I believe the first casualty to be Soriano and I’ve previously pegged sometime in July for that. He could be replaced by Pirela or Almonte. I don’t know what more Pirela has to do to show he can hit in the minor leagues. .320 over 300 AAA bats is pretty telling at age 24.

    After Soriano, then I think it’s Solarte or Johnson. I believe it’s more likely to be Solarte because he can just be sent down. But as others have suggested, there may be other moving parts here like a trade in the works.

    But I think there are two pretty strong outcomes here: Soriano goes. Roberts stays.

  52. blake June 24th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    If the Glove fits……I don’t have much to add to what’s been said. Zzzzzzzz

  53. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Cash

    Miss that show.

    The Yankees can drop Sizemore from the 40 man and promote one of Pirela, Refsnyder, or even Wheeler.

    The only problem is, if they get on base, who is going to drive them in. With Tex always having nagging small injuries lately, it might be worthwhile to add Kyle Roller’s left hand bat and see if he can beat the shift!

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Careful – or I’m going to ask you if there have been any reports about Jesus Montero having splinters from all the time he’s spending on the bench.
    ///

    You’re using my metaphor from 2011, when he grew splinters while Girardi let Martin, Swisher and Tex wave at the ball :)

    He’s in the majors, and he has contributed to a couple of wins. Where have you gone, Michael Pineda?

  55. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    “I don’t think a hacker or psychopathy would pay multiple times after being banned”
    _____
    I disagree. Unfortunately, the banned posters can’t stay away. They would no doubt pay to keep their Lohud “eligibility.”
    —————————

    The people who tend to have the personalities that get them banned come back because they like getting a rise out of people. They know that there’s no effective way to stop someone from posting on a website. You ban one person they can set up a new email account and log back in, no muss no fuss.

    The more attention you give them by trying to call them out – the more you make yourself their target. I don’t post on game threads because that’s when they tend to roam and when I do come across a troll making an obvious troll statement – I ignore it and move on.

    I’m sorry that this has gotten personal for some of you. That’s awful and I’m sure Chad and the people at LoHud wish there was more they could do. But in the end, if you post in a forum like this and engage the wrong people that’s a risk you take. The alternative is finding a new forum.

  56. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Careful – or I’m going to ask you if there have been any reports about Jesus Montero having splinters from all the time he’s spending on the bench.
    ///

    You’re using my metaphor from 2011, when he grew splinters while Girardi let Martin, Swisher and Tex wave at the ball :)

    He’s in the majors, and he has contributed to a couple of wins. Where have you gone, Michael Pineda?
    —————————

    By “contributed” you mean he’s gotten water for the real players right?

  57. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Careful – or I’m going to ask you if there have been any reports about Jesus Montero having splinters from all the time he’s spending on the bench.
    ______
    Yeah well Pruf’s been mostly right about the prospects and at least hugs the right ones, recognizes who has talent. ;) And Montero isnt a fait accompli and can physically sit on the bench unlike our two returns for that deal. Still say he will hit. And did a good job with Mariners in a small sample size…

  58. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    But in the end, if you post in a forum like this and engage the wrong people that’s a risk you take. The alternative is finding a new forum.
    ______
    Nothing like blaming the victim, Chip. I don’t engage but God help us if we don’t toe the party line. Isn’t that what makes America great?

  59. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 9:57 am
    And did a good job with Mariners in a small sample size…
    ———————————–

    Did a brutal job for them in a much larger sample size though.

  60. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    I’m sorry that this has gotten personal for some of you. That’s awful and I’m sure Chad and the people at LoHud wish there was more they could do. But in the end, if you post in a forum like this and engage the wrong people that’s a risk you take. The alternative is finding a new forum.

    ——

    Of course it’s gotten personal for some people. Why wouldn’t it?

    But you’re wrong about one thing. You don’t have to engage with the jackass to become his target.

    People like Shame, Doreen, and YF aren’t exactly abrasive personalities in this forum but they’ve been victims of his transgressions simply because the guy is an ass and wants to hurt people for no particular reason.

  61. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    “Where have you gone, Michael Pineda?”

    I’m afraid if he keeps on having issues related to his upper back/shoulder , that he might end up like approximately 70% from a study on pitchers who have not been able to make it back after surgery for a torn labrum.

  62. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    YF

    Not a big REM fan… but that vid has me smiling :D

    The attacks against Doreen should be the line in the sand for everyone here. All the attacks are awful (Nick, Randy, Shame etc), but to go after her daughter really makes me furious. I Have to say I am disappointed that some regulars have not spoke up against those particular attacks.

  63. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:01 am

    But in the end, if you post in a forum like this and engage the wrong people that’s a risk you take. The alternative is finding a new forum.
    ______
    Nothing like blaming the victim, Chip. I don’t engage but God help us if we don’t toe the party line. Isn’t that what makes America great?
    ——————————

    I’m not “blaming the victim” I’m pointing out the reality of the situation. There is absolutely nothing that anyone working for Lohud can do to stop trolls from doing what they’ve done. If that’s a reality that doesn’t sit well with you and not something you want to deal with then you have the option of not posting here. That would stink but other than that what remedy would you suggest?

  64. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    I sure hope Sizemore on the 40 man roster isn’t holding up any moves. But, it wouldn’t surprise me. He is a veteran, and fits the mold of a not very good one.

  65. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    I doubt Roller gets a shot either; we wouldnt take risks with the better players in the system and instead dealt them. Why would we give Roller who also won’t give you any kind of plus D and has some issues hitting breaking balls a shot when we didn’t elite players. I believe they’ll just pick up vet types later in season if it comes to that vs play the AAAA types. Now if they want to give players like Ref a shot that would be interesting but I’m not holding my breath.

  66. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    I missed the CR affair on this forum, I think I took a hiatus when Nick was getting harrassed, I did not quite believe it and actually defended CR. but long and short of it, to do what what CR did or so I read to some of the posters here it’s unfortunate. but like Chip said….

  67. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Chip June 24th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    I’m sorry that this has gotten personal for some of you. That’s awful and I’m sure Chad and the people at LoHud wish there was more they could do. But in the end, if you post in a forum like this and engage the wrong people that’s a risk you take. The alternative is finding a new forum.

    ——

    Of course it’s gotten personal for some people. Why wouldn’t it?

    But you’re wrong about one thing. You don’t have to engage with the jackass to become his target.

    People like Shame, Doreen, and YF aren’t exactly abrasive personalities in this forum but they’ve been victims of his transgressions simply because the guy is an ass and wants to hurt people for no particular reason.
    ——————————

    As I said above, I’m not usually on-line when this person comes in and so I have no clue what is being said or done.

    Again, it sucks, but you seem like a smart enough guy to know that what I’m saying is true – that the only way to avoid the situation is by avoiding the blog. If he comes on during games – don’t post during games. Or post somewhere else. I’m sorry if that sounds like “blaming the victim” as YFem put it – but the simple truth is that there’s really no alternative.

  68. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    I’d really rather talk about how I’m ‘shipping for a JLo/Arod coupling….

  69. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Chip

    The guy call Randy’s elderly mom in the middle of the night. He post untrue information about Doreen’s autistic daughter. He harassed Nick by constantly posting information about his family…to the point where he finally left. Sorry your way off base.

  70. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    I doubt Roller gets a shot either; we wouldnt take risks with the better players in the system and instead dealt them. Why would we give Roller who also won’t give you any kind of plus D and has some issues hitting breaking balls a shot when we didn’t elite players.
    ———————–
    Lack of available players to pick from.

    Speaking of AAAA players, I’m slightly elated that the Yankees haven’t signed Jason Kubel yet.

  71. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Tar June 24th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Chip

    The guy call Randy’s elderly mom in the middle of the night. He post untrue information about Doreen’s autistic daughter. He harassed Nick by constantly posting information about his family…to the point where he finally left. Sorry your way off base.
    ———————-

    That’s awful. It really is and I feel bad for those people and for anyone else who has had to deal with this. But the question is still out there: What can Lohud do about it?

  72. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Chip, If, prior to the expiration of the CBA, the number of FA’s not receiving offers grows (Drew, Morales), the Players Union may look at the 189 threshold as a major contributing cause to the loss of individual bargaining power for individual FA’s, and leaving these players with the sole choice of accepting their current teams QO or not earning any money.
    In essence, the Union unwittingly allowed MLB, to reinstate an updated version of the old Reserve Clause.

  73. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    I do still wonder how he got my info. I think it stemmed from an email I sent to trisha unfortunately, as I also never use my name when registering for sites like this. The fantasy baseball fiasco was another way he got his hands on full names. So even if you were savvy enough to protect certain details, it wasn’t a sure thing.

    Either way, however, it’s been calculated which is the frustrating part about being told to just go somewhere else. Doesn’t really matter if any of us do, he’s housing that info forever.

  74. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Chad posted a good intensive review of the post op consequences to pitchers who have had a labral tear and repair of it on their pitching shoulder.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....m-surgery/

  75. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    What can Lohud do about it?
    ====
    that’s the question. any sane person know what the man did was reprehensible and wrong.

  76. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Aaron Judge is 6’7″ and he is drawing walks (more walks than Ks in his limited time in tampa) this guy could be the equivalent of Betances but from the offensive end just a rare talent of size and tools

  77. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    eople like Shame, Doreen, and YF aren’t exactly abrasive personalities in this forum but they’ve been victims of his transgressions simply because the guy is an ass and wants to hurt people for no particular reason.
    ///

    Well yeah, and I don’t like the implication that being mercurial and outspoken invites what is criminal behavior against one, but I appreciate your point.

    luis is as diplomatic as they come; he’s polite almost to a fault to people who don’t deserve respect because they never give it – but that’s just who he is. Nevertheless, he doesn’t back down. For that, he’s been trolled over and over again by the same little group here (and of course, the “hacker”, who is quite familiar to us all, IMO).

  78. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    JimK June 24th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Chip, If, prior to the expiration of the CBA, the number of FA’s not receiving offers grows (Drew, Morales), the Players Union may look at the 189 threshold as a major contributing cause to the loss of individual bargaining power for individual FA’s, and leaving these players with the sole choice of accepting their current teams QO or not earning any money.
    In essence, the Union unwittingly allowed MLB, to reinstate an updated version of the old Reserve Clause
    ——————————–

    I think it’s more likely that the MLBPA will go after draft pick compensation instead of the $189 threshold.

  79. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Once he’s got your info, you’re basically just waiting for something to actually take place that crosses a line until you can do anything about it.

    He’s already said whether I post here or not probably doesn’t make a difference lol.

  80. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    it can happen to anyone even the mighty Cardinals

    as Michael Wacha will hit the DL (along with fellow starter Jaime Garcia). As Goold reports, Wacha is dealing with a “stress reaction” to his scapula, which GM John Mozeliak says the club will handle carefully since the injury “is not a very common injury to pitchers and one that we don’t have a ton of experience on how to deal with it.”

  81. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    One thing I will say for sure is despite what some might think/say, Chad and his team do as much as they can.

  82. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Chip, I’ll keep posting here because I want to talk baseball, you know, what this forum is supposed to be for… but thanks for the suggestion of throwing in the towel. And I agree there isn’t much that can be done…
    _____
    “. I Have to say I am disappointed that some regulars have not spoke up against those particular attacks. ”
    _____
    You would hope so, but it is what it is. People want to be oblivious and enjoy/talk baseball plus they don’t want to stoke the flames. I can understand that to a degree, but some of the alliances formed here with multiples to “take revenge” on posters who happen to have a difference of opinion is definitely troubling. But what can you do?

    Tar, but you have to admit that REM song is a perfect accompaniment to GLoves address. LOL

  83. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 10:15 am

    What can Lohud do about it?”

    First I don’t blame Chad..he’s a writer ( and a damn good one) who doesn’t have the time to babysit the blog. I really don’t want him to. But thats why there is thing called moderators. My guess is Gannet doesn’t want to do it probably because of money.

    I am not that technically savvy… but how about providing a phone number with every NEW registration and letting an intern call and confirm? There has to be a better way.

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Cano,

    He really was nothing like his scouting reports when I went down to Lakewood for that Charleston series.

    Couldn’t believe how patient he was, how sound he was – really rooted, wide-legged, balanced stance, level swing, line drives. The report I read before seeing him was more what O’Brien seems to be, at least ATM.

    I agree, he could be a monster. Wouldn’t that be like a waterfall in the desert!

  85. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 10:11 am

    What can Lohud do about it?
    ====
    that’s the question. any sane person know what the man did was reprehensible and wrong.
    ————————–

    One of my previous jobs was as editor for a magazine. With that came the responsibility of monitoring and moderating our own chat room. We had regulars and we had trolls and stuff like what you’re describing went on and I can tell you from that experience that the best I could do was ban that poster and delete the posts as quickly as possible. Short of that, it’s like what GF said, best thing you can do is limit the amount of info in your profile, starting with your email address. Create an account that has nothing to do with any other social networking that you do.

    I have something like a dozen email addresses for that reason alone and I still had to change one of my accounts because it got hacked.

    I’m sorry if that comes off as blaming the victim or not being sympathetic, but my point is just that if you’re waiting for Lohud’s tech wizards to come riding to the rescue I don’t think that’s realistic.

  86. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    i am here to show my support for Mr. Whitley on the day after i am looking forward to his next start because this is part of the growing process

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    I do still wonder how he got my info. I think it stemmed from an email I sent to trisha unfortunately,
    ////

    You don’t say.

  88. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    I do actually get the ‘ignore it’ approach.. sometimes it really does seem to diffuse things, but at other times it ignites more intense behavior.

  89. Yankee Trader June 24th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Time to go.

    Have a great day everyone.

    Until later.

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Still say he will hit. And did a good job with Mariners in a small sample size…
    ///

    YF, I missed this. I’d take Montero back in a heartbeat. Oppo power in the Stadium? Sign me up. He hasn’t been too bad at 1B, either. Certainly, you can’t repeat that “run prevention” credo with a straight face if you’re Cashman, considering the state of the team’s current infield defensively (not to mention, offensively).

  91. Tar June 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    YT

    Thank you for trying to keep the subject on baseball….sorry if I was of no help. :sad:

    I have chores to do myself catch up later

  92. Mike in Harrisburg June 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    I have spent time on a lot of different forums, many much bigger than this one, and never heard of that kind of stalking anywhere else.

    Honestly – and again going to my earlier point about veering OT – I think one of the problems is the sharing of personal details and tangential off topic conversations. Trolls/psychopaths eat that kind of thing up. It’s too late know for the people already impacted, but going forward keeping things more strictly focused would help.

    Part of the problem is this is set up as a catch-all comments section in response to blog posts, as opposed to a bulletin board format. That leaves little room for people to branch out appropriately.

  93. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:16 am
    Cano,

    He really was nothing like his scouting reports when I went down to Lakewood for that Charleston series.

    Couldn’t believe how patient he was, how sound he was – really rooted, wide-legged, balanced stance, level swing, line drives. The report I read before seeing him was more what O’Brien seems to be, at least ATM.

    I agree, he could be a monster. Wouldn’t that be like a waterfall in the desert!

    i don’t know much about the lower minors BUT i did pay attention to last year’s draft because of the three draft picks so i knew a little bit about him from Fresno state i am just really really really intrigued by this guy and it is really (sorry for the reallys) about this plate discipline i just hope he is on the face track any in person reports you have would be great because i am limited to youtube clips right now

    now in NO way (and i mean capital letters) NO way am i meaning a direct comparison but there was the dave Winfield yankeeography on this weekend and dave was a big guy (6’6″) and had great plate discipline for someone his size but again i am in NO way saying Judge will be even close to what Winfield was but it did make me daydream for a moment

  94. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Missing Cano says:
    June 24, 2014 at 10:11 am
    Aaron Judge is 6’7? and he is drawing walks (more walks than Ks in his limited time in tampa) this guy could be the equivalent of Betances but from the offensive end just a rare talent of size and tools
    _____
    So much fun to watch his hitting approach and now see the power just follow. I can’t wait until I get to see him live again in Trenton.

    Much better approach than OBrien who just gets eaten up by breaking balls. I’d never throw him a fastball. It’ll be interesting to see if OB can make some adjustments. So far, he really hasn’t.

  95. Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    I don’t mind that they traded Montero or Melky (clearly) I don’t even mind that they traded Montero for Pineda, trading Melky for Javy Vazquez was the mistake.

  96. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    looking forward to Phelps start tonight i think it will be another good test for him and see if he can continue his roll not only will it be the second time in a week he sees the same team but the Jays appear to have gotten their bats on a roll from their weekend series with the Reds go Phelps!!!!

  97. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Speaking of AAAA players, I’m slightly elated that the Yankees haven’t signed Jason Kubel yet.
    _____
    Hold on to that thought; it still could happen.

  98. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    I do actually get the ‘ignore it’ approach.. sometimes it really does seem to diffuse things, but at other times it ignites more intense behavior.
    ///

    Depends. I’m more likely to ignore stuff directed at me. If it’s directed at someone else, and there is piling on from the usual suspects, then I’ll speak up.

    The real point is, it’s not our jobs to patrol the blog. Chad can’t really be expected to do that effectively when he’s trying to cover the NY Yankees on deadline. It’s a byatch of a beat. They need a fulltime moderator, and no, I don’t think that should be a poster among us. Someone needs to be hired to do that job. Not gonna happen, though, since they can’t even find the $$$ to send Chad to Toronto.

  99. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    You don’t say.

    —————–

    The only reason I doubt this theory is because she never would have been banned had she been as tech savvy as he is. Unless this is the most epic application of Catfishing people I’ve ever seen…

  100. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Chip June 24th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    I don’t mind that they traded Montero or Melky (clearly) I don’t even mind that they traded Montero for Pineda, trading Melky for Javy Vazquez was the mistake.
    ///

    Now, wait a minute.

    Why was trading “a fourth OF” (as per your own assessment, don’t put it on Cashman; you thoroughly endorsed that view of his upside) for a SP who was putting up good numbers in the NL a “mistake”?

    Unless you had some inkling that the “fourth OF” was going to actually turn out to be an All-Star caliber player?

    Can’t have it both ways, Chip; if you didn’t see that in Melky, then you can’t complain that Cashman and Co. didn’t. In which case, Melky couldn’t have garnered much, right?

  101. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Missing Cano says:
    June 24, 2014 at 10:17 am
    i am here to show my support for Mr. Whitley on the day after i am looking forward to his next start because this is part of the growing process
    _____
    Agree. He had some bad luck but also didn’t have his usual command. Was it just a feel/mechanical thing? I hope so but Toronto are darn good hitters, and Whit really put some pitches over the plate. Phelps will have to not nibble and continue to pitch in attack mode. But if you don’t locate, watch out. Fingers crossed.

    Got to run too. Enjoy! Catch you all later.

  102. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:32 am

    Shame,

    We all have our own conclusions. That’s all I want to say on that. For me, it’s simply a matter of awareness.

  103. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Chip, Good point, especially since Morales signed once the Twin were no longer subject to surrendering a draft pick.
    However, I still believe the 189 threshold hurts major market teams the most, which are the teams most likely to tender outrageous contract offers, and although there are some who believe MLB is engaged in an anti-Yankee conspiracy, the fact is MLB, needs major market contenders on an annual basis to maintain ratings, attendance and the sale of sports paraphernalia. If the number of major market contenders drops, so too does the overall revenue, and with that the number of dollars available for revenue sharing(distinct from the 189 threshold).

  104. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    That Melky trade really was terrible….

  105. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    I thought Melky had potentials, potentials to be more than a fourth OF. On Vasquez, I thought he was a 4 in AL east at his best. I was right, Guillen maybe little nuts, but he was absolutely right about Javy disappears under the bright lights. throwing 86 mph when he got to NY did not help either.

  106. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Melky was as much of a 4th OFer as Brett Gardner is.

  107. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Part of the problem is this is set up as a catch-all comments section in response to blog posts, as opposed to a bulletin board format. That leaves little room for people to branch out appropriately.
    ///

    Harrisburg,

    This is definitely both a blessing and a curse. The blog’s free flowing style is sometimes wonderful because of the spontaneity and sometimes some good discussions erupt from that style.

    But accountability, and also trolls slipping in between the margins, and even disingenuous reading and intellectual dishonesty and plain getting something wrong that was said are also in play regularly.

    There’s a poster here who is nothing but a troll. seven of his 10 posts are really the definition of trolling. He escapes scrutiny because he darts in and out in the margins and makes sure to keep it brief, avoiding culpability and playing both sides, even expressing occasionally indignation over the so-called state of blog relations, when he is really a sh*t disturber who lives for the conflict that persists here.

    It’s the way the thing is set up, for better or worse.

    Time to get to work.

    Good day, all.

  108. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    I mean.. we were literally still having the ‘Brett Gardner is not a 4th OFer’ debate as of last year because people worry more about how he steals 40 bases instead of just focusing on the fact that he can.

  109. Wave Your Hat June 24th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Is trisha really banned, or is that just a theory as to why she hasn’t posted recently?

  110. J. Alfred Prufrock June 24th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    i don’t know much about the lower minors BUT i did pay attention to last year’s draft because of the three draft picks so i knew a little bit about him from Fresno state i am just really really really intrigued by this guy and it is really (sorry for the reallys) about this plate discipline i just hope he is on the face track any in person reports you have would be great because i am limited to youtube clips right now

    now in NO way (and i mean capital letters) NO way am i meaning a direct comparison but there was the dave Winfield yankeeography on this weekend and dave was a big guy (6’6?) and had great plate discipline for someone his size but again i am in NO way saying Judge will be even close to what Winfield was but it did make me daydream for a moment
    ///

    Gotta run, but interesting post. Winfield II would be just fine with me :)

    Why not dream? It’s the stuff that life is made of (to turn Shakespeare upside down).

    Want to see him against AA guys with better breaking pitches. He handled well in Lakewood, but SSS except for BB rates support what I saw.

    Later

  111. SweetSpot June 24th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    There are countless blogs that use volunteer moderators. Exact rules are established by the organization and all mods are required to enforce them. All offenses are clearly defined and are measured objectively; opinions and subjectivity within the rules are never used against any participant.

    There are computer programs used to verify identities through cell phone numbers and requiring credit card registration where names match billing address, etc. LoHud could charge one dollar a year and require a credit card. That having been said and there are many other security and safety measures available; the old adage that if a burglar wants to break in to your house, a pro, there is no alarm system that can keep him out applies here. It’s the internet, if you want to be perfectly safe and anonymous the only way to insure that is not to be online.

    There are cyber crime units in every law enforcement agency so if anyone feels personally threatened by this person they should be reported, stalking is against the law. Even if no law was broken these reports are taken seriously. Not doing anything is enabling in my opinion, the perpetrator of these acts needs to feel the heat. I assure you they can find out who he is and will contact him. Just letting someone know law enforcement is watching can make a big difference.

    I suspect changes are coming to LoHud based on the survey that was posted. I don’t know what moderation and blog etiquette changes if any are included; I suspect accommodations for cell phones, tablets, page refreshing, likes, etc., may be what’s being contemplated. Along with promotional items to increase participation as numbers mean ad dollars which is one of the limited sources of revenue available to the online media these days.

  112. MTU June 24th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Good morning.

    Quick drive by.

    My 2 cents on how the blog could be improved.

    I’ve said it forever.

    Institute a formal “ignore button”.

    Charge a reg. fee to prevent trolling and multiple registrations.

    Improve the overall security of the blog.

    What goes on here sometimes is nothing short of lunacy and even borders on the criminal.

    A way should be found to stop it.

    ;)

  113. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Gotta run, but interesting post. Winfield II would be just fine with me :)

    Why not dream? It’s the stuff that life is made of (to turn Shakespeare upside down).

    Want to see him against AA guys with better breaking pitches. He handled well in Lakewood, but SSS except for BB rates support what I saw.

    definitely agree with against aa competition which is why I usually do not get really excited until aa but I think I will have to wait until next year it appears Judge is on the Refsnyder plan (which is fine) finish the year in tampa and then begin 2015 in Trenton it would be super great if he follows 2015 like Refsnyder has in 2014

    re: Winfield i am scared to dream because Winfield, Henderson, and of course Donnie were my favs offensive guys in the 80s and i have rookie cards for all three!!!!

  114. Brian June 24th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Melky – 4th outfielder on the Yankees.

    Third outfielder in All Star voting.

  115. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Shame,

    I think the poll was really Chad’s first step to get you to the game with him. Poll, schmoll.

  116. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 10:55 am

    For some reason the Y’s organization had a problem with several players, specifically Melky, Cano, and Abreu, and if the Y’s were really intent on developing a new core, they would have kept Melky, and attempted to extend Cano after the 2011 season.
    Since I am not privy to the inside workings of the organization I do not know what the problems may have been, but had the Y’s kept Cano and Melky, than the previous off season signings would have improved on existing players in their prime years and the present Y’s offense would not resemble the offensive output of most teams during the 60′s.

  117. Cashmoney June 24th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    time to head out, later all.

    I am excited about Judge, a physical specimen who actually might be good at baseball…

  118. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 10:54 am
    Shame,

    I think the poll was really Chad’s first step to get you to the game with him. Poll, schmoll.

    ——————-

    YESSSSSS!!!!

  119. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 10:57 am

    The Cardinals have a first round pitching prospect to fill in. Therein, lies the difference. All teams have injuries. Good teams have replacements like the Yankee teams of the late 1990s.

  120. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Does anyone know how Lohud checks for “multiples?” My guess would be the individual IP address and not the e-mail account, but I am not sure, and I do not know if IP verification works with tablets and smart phones.

  121. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    http://rotoscouting.com/aaron-.....port-2014/

    ——

    Here’s a pretty negative scouting report on Judge. I believe this is the same scout who wrote that glowing report on Severino. He also apparently likes Avelino as well.

    Not being a scout or a member of the industry in any way, I’m pretty much relegating to reading this stuff and focusing on the numbers, much the way Bill James did 30 years ago. Judge did very well in low A, but at his age, for him to have any weight as a prospect, that was expected. One would expect similar production from Judge in Tampa. It really all comes down to AA. If he makes it there next year he’ll be 23, the same age as Refs is now. That’s when we’ll all have a better idea of what we have and scouting reports like this one will become either irrelevant or prescient.

  122. Shame Spencer June 24th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    So no one wants Arod to date JLo?

    Fine, be that way.

  123. RhapsodyInBlue June 24th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    It’s obvious there are folks using multiple IDs, the sock puppets are the pit bulls they attack any poster who doesn’t subscribe to the template.

    Pretty sickening. Everyone here is entitled to an opinion I respect that but it’s the constant beating of the drum on a certain one or two issues that cannot or will not change that makes me feel like it’s ground hog day everyday here at Lohud.

  124. RhapsodyInBlue June 24th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    JimK

    Difficult to enforce, different devices have different mac and IP addresses.

  125. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 11:30 am

    That was an ugly scouting report on Judge.

  126. RhapsodyInBlue June 24th, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Yeah not a very flattering size up of Judge.

  127. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 11:46 am

    RIP, Thanks

  128. JimK June 24th, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Sorry, meant RIB

  129. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 11:50 am

    bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 11:09 am
    http://rotoscouting.com/aaron-…..port-2014/

    lol it is fantasy baseball site and they could not even spell owning correctly

    instead they spell, in bold letters, “OWING”

  130. RhapsodyInBlue June 24th, 2014 at 11:51 am

    JimK

    Np.

    Lol. Luckily I’m still on the right side of the grass.

  131. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 11:52 am

    here is some real dish on aaron judge

    •Keith Law, ESPN: “When scouts reach for ‘Blake Griffin’ when they need a physical comparable, you know you’re a big baseball player. Judge has raw power but a somewhat short swing that generates more contact than big flies in games.”

    • ESPN Scouts Inc: “He has 30-homer potential for a team willing to overlook what might be 150 strikeouts a year, which would still be an above-average player, but the fact that he hasn’t shown a ton of power during games so far is a minor red flag.”

    •Jonathan Mayo, MLB.com: “Judge has patience at the plate, runs pretty well and has a strong arm, all the tools for a future right fielder. How he performed during his junior season with the bat was going to determine where he lands on Draft boards. That performance was a bit up-and-down but a team that saw him on a good day — and put stock in his strong Cape performance — might be willing to gamble he’ll hit enough to tap into that power at the next level.”

    http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/20.....ing-report

  132. RhapsodyInBlue June 24th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Thanks for the links MC

  133. mick June 24th, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    Pretty sickening. Everyone here is entitled to an opinion I respect that but it’s the constant beating of the drum on a certain one or two issues that cannot or will not change that makes me feel like it’s ground hog day everyday here at Lohud.
    ======================
    RIB

    This is indeed a form of trolling.
    More subtle but indeed designed to bait.

  134. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    “here is some real dish on aaron judge”

    ——

    At the end of the day, it’s always the numbers that are the most reliable for measuring prospects.

    Mason Williams

    Season OPS: .599

    June OPS: .656

  135. rocketfish June 25th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Cashman is the problem. No pitching help yet? Why??? PAY THE DAMN CUBS ALREADY.

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