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Pregame notes: “He’s had a hard time staying on the field”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 24, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

HeathcottFormer first-round pick Slade Heathcott is going to miss the rest of the season after having knee surgery yet again.

According to Mark Newman, vice president of baseball operations, Heathcott has his knee scoped. The problem was “related” to Heathcott’s previous knee problem, which cost him the last month of so of last season.

“We’re hoping he’ll get healthy,” Newman said. “Beyond that, I don’t really have expectations now. He’s had a hard time staying on the field. He works at it, so we’ve got that going for us.”

It’s been a disappointing year for Double-A Trenton’s highly touted outfield. The Thunder were supposed to have Heathcott playing alongside Mason Williams and Tyler Austin, but Heathcott played just nine games before going on the disabled list, and both Williams and Austin have had an OPS below .700. Newman, though, points out that several players — Brett Gardner and Chien-Ming Wang are two examples that he cited — have been relatively underwhelming in their first attempt at Double-A.

“Not as exciting as if they were OPSing at 1.000,” Newman said. “But we’re going to be patient. … Mason, his month of June was his best month, and Tyler’s turning it up a little bit now, so we’ll see how they finish.”

AnnaI’m not in Toronto, so this is a prospect-heavy version of our usual pregame notes:

• Shortstop Dean Anna and reliever Diego Moreno have been activated from the Triple-A disabled list tonight. It creates a bit of an infield logjam with Anna, Zelous Wheeler, Rob Refsnyder, Scott Sizemore and Kyle Roller worth regular at-bats. Guess Wheeler could get some outfield time with Jose Pirela.

• To open roster spots in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Carmen Angelini was sent back to Double-A and reliever Heath Bell was released. The Yankees took a short look at Bell but ultimately decided to move on. He got into five games in roughly two weeks with the Railriders.

• Also in Triple-A, Nik Turley is supposed to join the Triple-A pitching staff on Thursday (he’s been on the disabled list after getting hurt in spring training), and Chris Leroux should join the Triple-A team within a week or so. Turley should move into the rotation (either immediately or eventually), but Newman said Leroux’s role hasn’t been determined. That Triple-A pitching staff has been a little banged up.

• Prospects Luis Severino and Pete O’Brien will represent the Yankees at next month’s Futures Game. Severino was probably a fairly easy choice (he’s really emerged as the standout pitching prospect in the organization). If the Yankees were going to have a position player, I’d guess the decision came down to O’Brien or Aaron Judge. O’Brien is listed as an infielder, not a catcher, on the U.S. team roster.

UPDATE: Two things coming from the beat guys up on Toronto:

1. CC Sabathia is officially beginning a rehab assignment this weekend. That starts his 30-day clock, which fits the Yankees previous statements that Sabathia should be ready sometime after the break.

2. Carlos Beltran has felt a forearm issue while playing catch, so throwing is going to stop. Apparently he feels fine swinging. Sounds like he’s a DH only for the foreseeable future.

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92 Responses to “Pregame notes: “He’s had a hard time staying on the field””

  1. bruceb June 24th, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Beltran won’t play the field again this season; he suffered discomfort throwing.

    Add that to the fact that he can’t hit left-handed and I think most of us will likely reach the same conclusion: he should have had the surgery.

  2. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    surprise surprise

    Daniel Barbarisi @DanBarbarisi
    Carlos Beltran’s return to outfield shut down indefinitely after throwing this weekend caused forearm problem; he’s perma-DH for time being

  3. ScottinSJ June 24th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Beltran’s throwing program has been shut down because of “tightness” in his right forearm. But doesn’t feel it at plate. Will remain at DH

    Thank God. I thought we might lose his bat too.

  4. yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Well… this is what happens when you sign older players. Let’s hope he can handle the DH side of things. At least we have no choice but to treat DH as a real spot in the lineup. Novel thought.

  5. ScottinSJ June 24th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Let’s hope he can handle the DH side of things.

    So far, he has been miserable.

  6. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    I guess the Beltran fallout finally gives us fans that power bat in RF we’ve been begging for with Ichiro out there regularly.

  7. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Those who wanted to see a lot less of Soriano in RF will also finally get their wish.

  8. ScottinSJ June 24th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 5:52 pm
    I guess the Beltran fallout finally gives us fans that power bat in RF we’ve been begging for with Ichiro out there regularly.

    Are you saying you’re disappointed with our starting outfield’s 10 combined HRs?

  9. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    yankeefeminista June 24th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Well… this is what happens when you sign older players. Let’s hope he can handle the DH side of things. At least we have no choice but to treat DH as a real spot in the lineup. Novel thought.

    —-

    Isn’t that sad? It takes an injury to one of their outfielders to finally get a real DH.

  10. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    ScottinSJ June 24th, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Are you saying you’re disappointed with our starting outfield’s 10 combined HRs?

    —–

    Nah, especially not when Brett Gardner has 6 of the 10.

  11. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Over a month ago when Beltran decided to forego surgery, I said at that time he would not play the field again for the Yanks until he had his surgery. When he started throwing 10 days I said at the time that was shocking. Why would they risk aggravating the spur? Now that he’s been shut down one must again question who is actually making these decisions?

    It has appeared to me since he’s been back that he has problems swinging the bat left-handed therefore I think the spur is still bothering him. I still put the odds at 50-50 he has surgery in July.

  12. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    “both Williams and Austin have had an OPS below .700. ”

    —-

    At present, Mason Williams’ OPS is .600. For June, he’s at .656.

  13. ScottinSJ June 24th, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    Jacoby Ellsbury, career .297 hitter, is hitting .277. Derek Jeter, career .312 hitter, is hitting .267, and a soft .267. Mark Teixeira, career .278 hitter, is hitting .247, but at least he’s providing what little pop the lineup has, with 13 home runs. Brian McCann, career .277 hitter, is hitting .218 with very little power. Carlos Beltran, career .283 hitter, is batting .220. And so on.

    Just some more data points.

  14. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    I also said last month that if Beltran can stay healthy enough to DH the rest of the year this could be a blessing in disguise. This can be in a way a transition for Beltran like it has been for so many others on this roster. I think it makes the most sense for Beltran to be the Yankees’ DH for the rest of his contract.

    Beltran at DH can potentially improve two positions. A healthy Beltran should be able to hit and the Yanks have gotten horrible production from the DH spot the last couple of years. If Beltran can turn into a Chili Davis type weapon over the next couple of years that will be extremely valuable. It will also keep him healthier since he’s less inclined to run into walls as a DH. And it will also indirectly get the Yanks to focus on a corner OF spot for next year. I’ve said before that improving power at the two corner OF positions should be a high priority in this coming off season.

    So transition doesn’t always apply to just the kids. Even 37 year-olds need to evolve.

    2014. Transition Year. Let the kids (and the old men) play.

  15. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    We need a right fielder. Give Almonte a chance for a month and go from there.

  16. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    “It’s been a disappointing year for Double-A Trenton’s highly touted outfield.”

    ——

    I don’t believe it’s been a disappointing year for Trenton’s highly touted outfield. Last year was the disappointing year. This year these guys aren’t even touted, let alone highly.

    The prospect train has pretty much left the station for Heathcott and Austin. And when you miss that train it’s pretty hard to get on the next one and still make your destination. Now Williams, he has special skills (defense, speed) so his ticket is still valid. He’ll have a few more chances to get on board.

    But for the most part, the prospect train has moved on with some new passengers. Dugas and Refsynder are on their way. O’Brien is looking to get his ticket punched. And they’ll be more after him looking to get on board as well.

    “I hear a train a comin . . . “

  17. Pat M. June 24th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    If you go back and take a look at the video from that game in Tampa you’ll see how hard Beltran whacked his arm that night on the railing. I always had concerns about his “aged ” wheels would hold up this season. A cracked elbow never came into the picture until that night in Tampa. I mean that’s a huge stick that is missing from the everyday line-up

  18. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    I said way back when Beltran first went on the DL that Beltran should have had the surgery which would have allowed an easy fix at DH with Morales by moving Soriano to RF. Morales would also have provided valuable trade bait when Beltran came back healthy if Soriano was healthy

    But Hal did not want to send more, and the organization/Beltran decided that no surgery was the way to go, even though its clear now he is not the same hitter from the left side of the plate.

    I am one of the few that think the Yankees should try to make a play for the division, and its not going to be a big job to win this mediocre division. I don’t think the Yankees care though. Attendance and revenues are up, payroll is down, they don’t need to win.

    Alas, many fans overvalue prospects like most organizations do, and for some reason there is support for Hals budget. Perhaps Yankee fans have tired of winning by using their enormous revenues to do so, and want to win with a more level winning field. I can see that. However, it means this organization has to learn to ride a 2 wheel bicycle without the training wheels as they have been doing for so long.

    Maybe they never learn, or at least they have a few falls like 2013 and this year. In any case its going to be miserable few years with the Yankees on a measly 1 million a day budget. if that’s going to be the case I will be watching a lot of womans beach volleyball. :lol:

  19. yankinvegas June 24th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    It seems that the instant that Jeter’s ankle snapped in the 12th inning of game 1 of the 2012 ALCS, everything about the New York Yankees changed for the worse.
    The 189 folly precluded necessary moves and combined with a ridiculous injury total ruined the 2013 season.
    Some panic moves, more ridiculous injuries which created a mish mosh of a roster, and the oddities caused by Jeter’s impending retirement threaten to ruin 2014 as well.
    There is seemingly no end in sight to the negativity. Bud Selig’s new parity driven parody has, along with dumb moves, bad luck and ownership all of a sudden obsessed with a budget created a situation in which the New York Yankees look like they will float along in mediocrity for a while.
    My solution? Hal should not give Brian Cashman a new contract. We need new leadership. Offer a blank check to Brian Sabean or Billy Beane to run the baseball operation. And tell Randy Levine that he will have nothing to do with the baseball end of the business. Clean house in the player development end and let the new GM bring in his own people.

  20. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Some guy on another site said Beltran doesn’t have a spur. His elbow is cracked. And he’s not having surgery now because when he does he’ll be out 18 months.

    When it comes to injuries and the Yanks anything is possible.

  21. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Rangers might be looking to move Adrian Beltre as they wave the white flag for the next few years. Yankees can land him, move Solarte/Johnson to 2B, jettison Roberts (or deal him). With Arod coming back next year, they can trade Beltre or release Arod (their call). Just going to take a few roll of the dice prospects

  22. Missing Cano June 24th, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Beltran will always be the big what if what if the Yanks had acquired him earlier in the 2004 offseason and then again in the 2011 offseason and now it looks as if the Yankees will not absent a few hot days before that fateful day in Tampa ever be able to see Beltran and his brilliance on a consistent basis it is a minor baseball tragedy of what could have been

  23. austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    The Dallas paper has discussed Beltre’s recent proclivity toward hamstring and groin issues.

  24. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    The Dallas paper has discussed Beltre’s recent proclivity toward hamstring and groin issues.

    —–

    Go get ‘em Cash!

    That’s all he needed to hear.

  25. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Some guy on another site said Beltran doesn’t have a spur. His elbow is cracked. And he’s not having surgery now because when he does he’ll be out 18 months.
    ==================

    He has a bone spur that is cracked. He probably had the spur for a long time but cracked it when he ran into the wall in Tampa. Either way, they are just removing a spur, cracked or uncracked, the time lost would be the same, 2-3 months. If they diagnosed it immediately and had the surgery promptly, he would be 2/3 of the way from being back healthy. Instead, since crashing into the wall in Tampa and cracking the spur he has delivered us a 179 BA, 543 OPS, 14 RBI in 148 PA. Might deliver more than that going forward, but probably not much more from the left side and he is one bad swing from being lost for the season

  26. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Wasn’t their a possible move a few years ago where the Yanks could have picked up Swisher’s option, and traded him (he was good value at that time) and then signed Beltran that year to a multi-year deal? Somebody somewhere proposed that and I always thought that would have been a smart move. Just the type of strategic move the Yanks never make.

  27. G. Love June 24th, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    If Beltran can have surgery and come back for a stretch run this year, they should be proactive about it. He’s not hitting like Carlos Beltran and that spill over the wall clearly messed him up in Tampa.

    That said if the surgery is a season ender, you play him at DH and hope he can be 75% of what he normally is.

  28. bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    “Either way, they are just removing a spur, cracked or uncracked, the time lost would be the same, 2-3 months”

    ——

    I don’t know what the truth is but this guy said something else. He named a bone in the elbow that was cracked, not a spur. Apparently it’s a pretty serious operation with a long recovery time.

    I guess like everything else with the Yanks, we’ll find out the truth in time.

  29. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    austinmac June 24th, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    The Dallas paper has discussed Beltre’s recent proclivity toward hamstring and groin issues.
    ==================

    Has always been prone to them, you take that into account when making an offer. That’s part of negotiations. Also, Rangers have to get the local press to start dumping on players they plan to deal to appease the fan base..

  30. hardwired7 June 24th, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    “Some guy on another site said Beltran doesn’t have a spur. His elbow is cracked.”

    I don’t think they would have given him a cortisone shot if that were the case, though I should qualify that with: A) I’m not a doctor, and B) I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

  31. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    G. Love June 24th, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    If Beltran can have surgery and come back for a stretch run this year, they should be proactive about it. He’s not hitting like Carlos Beltran and that spill over the wall clearly messed him up in Tampa.

    That said if the surgery is a season ender, you play him at DH and hope he can be 75% of what he normally is.
    =====================

    6 weeks ago it was possible. At this point it may be a season ender. Since the DH will be clogged up by him they have to improve offense at another position, which is why I mentioned Beltre, which can improve offense at 2 positions, 3B and 2B

  32. UnKnown June 24th, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Hardwired- You also don’t know more than the Yankee medical staff of course. :grin:

    Or any other Yankee team personel. Right everyone. :roll:

  33. andrewmelillo June 24th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    All you yankee fans can talk about all these trades you want to do but Kevin Long is still the hittin coach he screwed the hitters we have now so stop dreaming about trades we need a new hitting coach

  34. mick June 24th, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    yankinvegas June 24th, 2014 at 6:31 pm
    =============================
    Good posts!

  35. mick June 24th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    One more bad game and this place will implode.

  36. pete22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    bigdan22 June 24th, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    I don’t know what the truth is but this guy said something else. He named a bone in the elbow that was cracked, not a spur. Apparently it’s a pretty serious operation with a long recovery time.
    ====================

    I dont know Dan. When you start citing anonymous commenters without liinks its hard to take this serious. I can say w/o a doubt if he had an elbow fracture that Beltran would not be playing right now. He probably means he has a bone spur on the olecranon bone. Floyed fractured his olecranon bone and is out for the season. If he had broken elbow I can guarantee you Beltran would not be throwing 1 ball until it healed

  37. Pat M. June 24th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    The cortisone shot will calm down all the soft tissue inflammation, and they might need to drain fluid on occasions but as Big Dan posted any surgery to the elbow means spring training before we see Carlos Beltran most likely…. Bone spurs , calcium deposits are generally pretty hard material and are large in size. Word about is that he’s playing with a crack in the elbow. Painful.

  38. jmills June 24th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Have a good time everybody, for we are lucky to have our teams, no matter how miserable things may get…

  39. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Andy McCullough 11m
    Clayton Kershaw has given up one extra-base hit to a LHH hitter this season.

  40. Giuseppe Franco June 24th, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    mick June 24th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    One more bad game and this place will implode.

    —-

    Meh, I doubt it.

    A lot of us already had tempered expectations coming into the season so this team playing .500 ball the last 2 months isn’t exactly shocking.

    Those bridge jumpers who generally just participate in the game threads don’t count because they’re idiots.

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