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Pregame notes: “I’ve never had the sense that he’s a bad guy”

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For anyone who thought that we might see the Yankees retaliate against Red Sox first baseman Mike Napoli after he was caught on camera referring to Masahiro Tanaka as an, “idiot,” following his go-ahead homer with two outs in the ninth of Boston’s 2-1 win on Saturday, Joe Girardi’s message is don’t count on it.

Napoli clearly made some unsavory remarks about Tanaka, but it was in reference to the pitch selection — it certainly was a questionable decision to throw a 1-2 fastball in that spot with the array of pitches at Tanaka’s disposal — and it was directed at his teammates. For those reasons, Girardi downplayed it as a non-issue.

“I kind of heard second-hand,” Girardi said. “I don’t make much of it. It’s yesterday, it’s heat of the moment, and it doesn’t really change the complexion of the game. And it doesn’t change today’s game.”

In his defense, Napoli didn’t flip his bat or Cadillac it around the bases, and he didn’t make an attempt to purposely show up Tanaka.

Many want to make it into a big deal to juice up a rivalry that may have lost a bit of its luster in the past few seasons, but the Yankees don’t seem to be concerned.

“I haven’t seen anything from Mike Napoli where he’s a guy that shows people up, or he’s a guy who degrades people,” Girardi said. “Unfortunately, everything is seen now in the world that we live in, but I’ve never had the sense that he’s a bad guy. I’ve always thought of him as a guy who plays hard and loves to play the game.”

• The bigger concern for the Yanks is how Tanaka will respond to after losing his second straight start in such heartbreaking fashion, but Girardi repeatedly pointed out that Tanaka had pitched a brilliant game up to that point. Let’s face it: He’s been the biggest bright spot on the team and is probably the least of the Yankees’ concerns. “I really don’t,” Girardi said when asked he has any worries about his rookie ace. “I think that he’ll be fine. The bottom line is – and I think it gets lost – is that he pitched a great game. I don’t want him to lose sight of that, that he pitched well, and I won’t lose sight of it. If we score three runs, it’s not even talked about, so I think he’ll be fine.”

Red Sox Yankees Baseball• With that being said, it’s hard to figure out why Tanaka went with the fastball in that spot. With a 1-2 count, it was the perfect time to try and get Napoli to chase an off-speed pitch, and Napoli even said that he was expecting a splitter in the dirt. Tanaka did him a favor by giving him an unexpected pitch that he could handle, and Girardi said that it will be a learning experience. “I think all of us learn from situations that we’re in, and I think he’ll put that in his cap and it’ll be in his thought process the next time that he’s in a situation like that, and we’ll move on,” he said. “Believe me, we talk about things in length. I have not talked to him yet, but I’m sure it’s going to come up at some point.”

• Red Sox manager John Farrell also downplayed what Napoli said. “We have the upmost respect for Tanaka. I know Mike does,” he said. “His comment was based on an emotion in that moment, but it wasn’t meant to be degrading towards Tanaka.”

• Girardi had an interesting take on the leeway that is given when it comes to in-game emotions. “I always talk about as a catcher, if you get in a fight with a pitcher and you start going back-and-forth, if they say things that are derogatory or degrading the next day, then I have a problem with my pitcher,” he said. “But if it’s in the heat of the battle, I really don’t. Some of the things that (David Cone) would say to me, I would laugh. I’d turn around and laugh when I walk back, but it’s the heat of the moment and players get excited.”

• Of course, Girardi was asked about what Cone used to say to him. “He kicked me out of the bullpen one day when he was warming up,” he said. “He told me to shut up, go back and catch – those sort of things. That’s who he was. He was passionate about what he did, and it was the heat of the moment. And I would laugh. It kind of broke the ice a lot of the time, in a sense. It was funny. We used to say that he had that temperament, where, at times, he could snap a little bit. And you know what? I have that temperament, too. We’ve seen it.”

• In non-Tanaka news, Girardi said that CC Sabathia reported that he felt good today and will likely make his next rehab start somewhere closer to New York. Sabathia threw 2 2/3 innings in his first rehab start on Saturday for Class A-Tampa, allowing two runs on three hits. “(Head trainer) Stevie (Donahue) talked to him and he said he felt good,” he said. “He’ll be here to throw a bullpen and we’ll take a look at it and decide where his next start is. They talked about it being maybe closer to here.”

• Tonight’s starter is Chase Whitley, who is coming off of his worst start of the season in which he allowed eight runs over 3 1/3 innings. He was a revelation when he first came up, but he’ll have to adjust as opposing teams become more familiar with him. “I think it’s command and I think it’s his off-speed,” Girardi said. “He struggled with his off-speed the last time, and I think especially his slider, so you kind of take a look at that. Even though that’s not his No. 1 pitch, it’s developed into a very good pitch. For a starter to get through the lineup a couple of times, you need three pitches, so that’s important for him today.”

Brian McCann• With the midway point of the season approaching, Girardi was asked how he would assess Brian McCann’s first half. “If you were to look solely at how our staff has done, his RBI totals and his home runs, you’d probably say, ‘You know what? He’s having a pretty good year.’ But when you look at that average, that’s kind of glaring. I think people say, ‘You know what? He’s not having the year that he’s capable of.’ I know he expects more from himself, but some of the important numbers, he’s doing a pretty good job at,” he said. “He’s done a really good job with our staff. He’s with his eighth or ninth starter at this point. He had to learn a whole new league. He had to learn five starters who didn’t last very long. Three of them got hurt pretty quickly, and he had to really familiarize himself with three more.”

• Back in 1996, Girardi also got off to a slow start in his first season in pinstripes and he spoke about the trend of players struggling when they first come here. “My first month and a half was pretty rough, if you remember,” he said. “There were some people that I had some really important talks with along the way – one being my wife, and one being Mr. Zimmer – about just being who you are. Don’t try to be someone else, and I think that’s the trap that some players fall into when they come here. And I wasn’t expected to make a huge impact like Brian was, so I didn’t have to deal with that. I had to deal with replacing Mike Stanley, who was a fan favorite at the time, but I think over time, you’re going to see that Brian is going to be a very, very good Yankee for a long time, and his numbers will be where they’re supposed to be.”

• Chad was here last night, so I didn’t hear the comments first-hand, but apparently Carlos Beltran mistakenly told the media that his troublesome right elbow has been bothering him. According to Girardi, he was referring to a minor forearm issue that he’s had since attempting to throw a few weeks ago. He said that Beltran has told him repeatedly that he’s fine, and he’ll probably try to throw again sometime next week. “I just went and talked to him, and he made reference to (the elbow) last night. But he was making reference to the forearm, which got stiff a little bit,” Girardi said. “His elbow has not been a problem. His forearm got stiff from throwing, and that’s why we shut him down. I said to Carlos, ‘We talk about this every day. Are you OK?’ He said, ‘Yeah, I’m OK. (The media) was talking about my elbow, but in my mind, I was thinking about my forearm.’ ”

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201 Responses to “Pregame notes: “I’ve never had the sense that he’s a bad guy””

  1. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Ys Guy June 29th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
    Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
    its the yankees way, it always has been. all those bullpen guys got a shot when someone else couldnt get it done any more. and the yankees gave them a chance and they stuck.

    total bunk the yankees have been working on a concerted effort for many years now to transition to a low cost bullpen and move away from overpaying Karsays etc. they have been drafting that way for a while and this year’s draft is the high point of going after college relievers the yanks identified that the one place where they could cut costs was on the pen
    ========================================
    oh, ok, so bullpen pitchers (apparently as well as all the starters i included) dont count. i see… any other positions you want to exclude to try to prove a shaky point?

    read again carefully my point was to dispute your point that the bullpen arms from the farm only got a shot when some other veteran became injured that is NOT how the bullpen has taken shape that might be how the rotation has but NOT the pen it has been a concerted effort for many seasons now to integrate a cheaper bullpen whether via the farm or through waiver claims/small trades (think Almonte for Kelley)

    re: your larger point i don’t really care but the point you made about the bullpen pieces only coming or being tried out because some higher priced vets were injured or could not get the job done is not the case

    in fact the way the bullpen has been constructed is NOT the yankees way they actually have “let the kids play” in lieu of signing larger names

  2. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    “Chad was here last night, so I didn’t hear the comments first-hand, but apparently Carlos Beltran mistakenly told the media that his troublesome right elbow has been bothering him. According to Girardi, he was referring to a minor forearm issue that he’s had since attempting to throw a few weeks ago.”

    Pain from that bone chip or bone spur could radiate or it could affect a ligament which connects to the forearm. Don’t assume they are unrelated issues. Beltran is clearly not the same hitter from the left side. He has had a few opposite field hits but has shown no power except from the right side. Teams don’t like players disclosing whats really going on so we rarely hear anything other than guys like CC say they feel great even when they are not.

  3. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    • Chad was here last night, so I didn’t hear the comments first-hand, but apparently Carlos Beltran mistakenly told the media that his troublesome right elbow has been bothering him. According to Girardi, he was referring to a minor forearm issue that he’s had since attempting to throw a few weeks ago.

    smh it will get to the point that if Beltran does not man up then he deserves to be held on the merit and judged by his stats with no mitigating circumstances

  4. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    pete-

    You almost hope that it is that Beltran is hurting otherwise you are forced think he just sucks.

    ;)

  5. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    “I think all of us learn from situations that we’re in, and I think he’ll put that in his cap and it’ll be in his thought process the next time that he’s in a situation like that….”

    Yup. And it’s probably a good thing.

    ;)

  6. NYY_Girl_Penny June 29th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    NYY_Girl_Penny says:
    June 29, 2014 at 6:40 pm
    i cant stop laughing at this.. what you guys here wouldnt do to get your hands on one of these!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..038;sns=em

  7. NYY_Girl_Penny June 29th, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    ughh bad link

    NYY_Girl_Penny says:
    June 29, 2014 at 6:40 pm
    i cant stop laughing at this.. what you guys here would do to get your hands on it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....038;sns=em

  8. tomingeorgia June 29th, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Vin,
    You are an excellent standin for Chad. Keep up the good work!

  9. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    On the mantra that this is a kids game. According to B-Ref players under 30 significantly underperform players age 31-35 For every Trout there are like 10 Jackie Bradleys,

    The worst performing group is age 36 and above, 2nd worst group is kids 25 and under. Yankees lead the league in PA from the oldest group, 1177 PA at a 654 OPS (league average for that group). Boston is 2nd at 680 PA with an above league average 726. So its not the age so much but who you have playing

    Yankees have the fewest PA among the 25 and under group at 99 PA. Their OPS is 572. Kids got to produce right away for the Yankees when they are competing for the division. Maybe one of Ref, Pirela or Almonte will do so, they should get their chance soon. Not going to get 200+ PA like Bradley to prove themselves though, more like 50.

  10. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    You mean the Yankees aren’t going to retaliate :shock:

  11. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    MTU June 29th, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    pete-
    ence
    You almost hope that it is that Beltran is hurting otherwise you are forced think he just sucks.

    ;)
    ========================

    Its clear he has not been right since he went over that fence in Tampa. He was hitting before then. That’s likely when he chipped the elbow/spur which then dislodged and caused him to go on the DL. Right now Beltran looks post Tampa and pre-DL. Thats not going to do it

    Only way he gets pre-Tampa is with surgery, but that ship has sailed. Should have had it mid-May.

  12. Hearn June 29th, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Can you imagine the 96-01 Yankees NOT plunking Napoli tonight?

    I’m not talking throwing at his head..but a nice BP fastball right at his fat ass.

    That’s baseball. Not this wussified game Girardi describes.

  13. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    The Yankees win the game! The Yankees win the game! Miguel Cairo scores and the Yankees win the game! :)

  14. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Big deal or not the Yankees would let you rob them, taking everything but the dust pan in the closest and then offer you a beer on your way out of the house.

    Freaking take a stand on some of this BS from Boston that happens every single year. Every year the Yanks let Boston pull some kind of classless trashy stunt with zero reprucussions. It’s pathetic.

  15. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Can you imagine the 96-01 Yankees NOT plunking Napoli tonight?

    I’m not talking throwing at his head..but a nice BP fastball right at his fat ass.

    nah Strawberry would just clock Napoli like he is Armando Benitez

  16. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Hearn – no I absolutely can’t. The Yankee teams in the dynasty years would put someone on their tail.

    I thought McCann was supposed to be an enforcer. WTH

  17. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Yankees need to show Napoli some chin music. When you get caught talking trash, you gotta pay. Maybe it fires the team up. I know its not happening, but in my alternative universe, Napoli pays.

  18. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Kevin Long is the culprit.

  19. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    BTW Cash would make sure you don’t take the dust pan because he needs it when he goes dumpster diving. WHEEEEEE. :lol:

  20. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    I thought McCann was supposed to be an enforcer. WTH
    =================

    Lost his powers when he shaved the beard. This no facial hair policy is the real problem with the team. Let everyone grow a beard and the power will come. Hals budget will be safe, and all will end well. Free the beards!

  21. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Girardi’s comments about McCann above are of course right on the money and commensurate with what some of the more knowledgable fans here have said. This was a very good signing and solidifies us up the middle for the next five years. The guy is a gritty, tough leader and it’s no wonder the pitching staff speaks glowingly about him. He’s on a pace to hit about twenty home runs and drive in eighty. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does better than that. He’s had a tough time at the plate at times; it’s often a very hard adjustment to make, new league, new city, new team, new staff and hitters to learn.

  22. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    I thought McCann was supposed to be an enforcer. WTH

    he is not that McCann anymore he succumbed to the mental pressure of playing in NY for the time being

    http://nypost.com/2014/06/27/l.....on-mccann/

  23. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    go Whitley tonight he at least is part of the future going forward or at least auditioning for that future (i.e. 2015 and beyond) unlike Roberts, Soriano, Ichiro, and Johnson

  24. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    pop quiz Cashman your stop gaps have failed you what do you what do you do

  25. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Whitley needs to have a strong outing tonight.

  26. Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I agree old Yanks (not Mussina) would have drilled him, including Cone, Wells, Clemens, Lloyd, Stanton, Nelson, Karsay, Prinz, Quantrill and most definitely Sturtze.

  27. Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    Proctor too.

  28. JimK June 29th, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Since he began managing the Y’s Girardi’s handling of the BP has been his most consistent strength, often turning it over in the course of a season, therefore any discussions about adding depth as the key to the Y’s success this year are meaningless.
    Even this year, the Y’s have the best record in MLB, when they keep opposing teams to 4 runs of less and are either 1st or 2nd in winning games by one or two runs; this would not be possible without a good BP.
    I cannot recall any team winning everything based entirely upon the strength of their BP; teams may have lost because of the lack of a consistent closer or middle relievers, but if any team needs to live and die by their middle relievers their chances of playing in October are pretty slim.
    Moreover, the idea that adding BP arms will somehow improve the Y’s chances of winning is ludicrous, especially if you have problems scoring runs and a SP rotation, with one quality starter.
    JMO, but I think any moves the Y’s make this year, such as a blockbuster trade, will be just a continuance of the Band-Aid approach, which was the hallmark of their last OS moves.
    The reality is that despite their financial advantage there are at least 5 or 6 teams who have far superior BB organizations than the Y’s.

  29. Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Mike Buddie and Jay Tessmer would’ve stepped up.

  30. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Drill him why? Get someone thrown out? Tax the pen? They throw at you and someone gets hurt. Big deal, in the heat of the moment Napoli dissed Tanaka for his pitch selection.

  31. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    This team and organization has no fire, balls, guts. They won’t retaliate. They never will. They owe them for Uehara dancing like the World Series was decided last nigh

  32. Madrugador June 29th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Interesting how Girardi judges rookies on so few plate appearances yet he’ll also say he won’t judge a veterans at bats until he has been up 100 times.

  33. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
    Drill him why?

    and that is why you fail . . . .

  34. Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    Choate would’ve missed his target.

    Brian Bruney would have drilled the first batter he faced tonight.

  35. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I agree old Yanks (not Mussina) would have drilled him, including Cone, Wells, Clemens, Lloyd, Stanton, Nelson, Karsay, Prinz, Quantrill and most definitely Sturtze.

    —–

    I seem to recall Torre getting criticized quite a bit because he didn’t allow his team to get into bean brawl battles with the RS, especially when Pedro was drilling Yankees.

  36. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Just so everyone knows sweetspot says the “more knowledgable” fans here just so happen to also agree with all of sweetspots takes. Get outta here, I never wouldve predicted that. :roll:

    Excuse me while I go and barf…

  37. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Madrugador June 29th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
    Interesting how Girardi judges rookies on so few plate appearances yet he’ll also say he won’t judge a veterans at bats until he has been up 100 times.

    first it is more than 100 times

    second Girardi is behold too if someone has done it in the past they will more likely do it again

    re: second above this may hold true if someone is younger or in their prime but when it is someone that is either years removed from past glory (Ichiro & Roberts) or in obvious decline or being misused (Soriano) or just injured (Beltran) you need to adopt something different

  38. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    Torre cared more about winning the game than retaliating.

    So those who say the “old Yanks would have drilled Player X” must have short memories because it simply isn’t true.

  39. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    And sweetspot that’s why you’re a complete joke. Cause that’s probably how you live your life and everyone laughs at you.

  40. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Rocket would drill someone that’s for damn sure.

  41. JimK June 29th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Pete, I agree that Beltran looks much better from the RS than the LS, but the fact that his problem is his right elbow should indicate that his swings would be worse from the RS.
    I am only speaking from my own experience; I have a problem with my right elbow and after only a few golf swings or hitting a BB to my daughter, my right elbow acts up, and the pain in my right elbow affects my ability to continue hitting.

  42. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    I seem to recall Torre getting criticized quite a bit because he didn’t allow his team to get into bean brawl battles with the RS, especially when Pedro was drilling Yankees.

    oh Torre was just a culprit at least form 96-01 the way he defended Roger against the Mets he and Jeter use to whine all the time when Clemens threw at jeter when he was with the Jays and then when he came to the Yanks they were all too happy to have that bulldog on their team and Torre was ever so looking the other way when Roger threw NOT a ball at Piazza in the WS (he had previously actually plunked Mike earlier in the season of the nightcap doubleheader between Shea and YS in July) but threw a BAT at Mike

  43. Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    Giuseppe Franco says:
    June 29, 2014 at 7:19 pm
    Bring in the Goose June 29th, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I agree old Yanks (not Mussina) would have drilled him, including Cone, Wells, Clemens, Lloyd, Stanton, Nelson, Karsay, Prinz, Quantrill and most definitely Sturtze.

    —–

    I seem to recall Torre getting criticized quite a bit because he didn’t allow his team to get into bean brawl battles with the RS, especially when Pedro was drilling Yankees.

    ——–

    Yes, and I also remember certain guys would ignore that. Pettitte and Moose wouldn’t. But as bad as it got with Pedro, especially when he sent Soriano and Jeter to the hospital in the first inning, some guys acted on their own. Miss that team.

  44. JimK June 29th, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Failure to retaliate; wasn’t that the knock on Mussina?

  45. Villa Nova-Ya June 29th, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    While I agree that Napoli’s comments were in the heat of the moment, and meant for his teammates and not for the world to hear, when a game is televised on FOX or ESPN, the microphones are everywhere and they pick up everything, and in a sense it is not fair to the players to be “spied” on in this manner. Without the mikes, maybe someone who is good at lipreading can pick it up. Otherwise, it’s a non-issue.

    The Yankees, as players, get it, and the Yankee=es as an organization are classy, so won’t address it as something negative, but the fans are left with a pretty bad taste in their mouths.

    Add this to other subtle digs at the Yankees (or maybe not so subtle): my husband told me on ESPN this morning they talked about how Tanaka “struggled” last night. As far as I could see, he did a pretty good job, not a cakewalk, but certainly not a struggle. He was done in by two home runs, one of which was because of a questionable pitch choice. Then, just a while ago, ESPN talked about the dearth of runs scored in this series. Well, not for nothing, but the Yankees did score SIX runs on Friday night. That’s not chickenfeed. I’ll grant you this is not the slugfest that we’ve seen in years past (way past, really, when Manny and Ortiz went back to back, and ARod was an MVP player), but the Red Sox struggled to score both nights, and the Yankees struggled to score last night. Nitpicky, I know, but I get soooooo tired of the ESPN/FOX spin.

    I really hope Whitley is on his game tonight and Lackey is not. With Lackey,you really don’t know which one will show up.

  46. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    So those who say the “old Yanks would have drilled Player X” must have short memories because it simply isn’t true.

    again tell Mike Piazza that

  47. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    So those who say the “old Yanks would have drilled Player X” must have short memories because it simply isn’t true.

    also tell Armando Benitez about that with the clocking he received from Daryl Strawberry

  48. ohengin33r June 29th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    So Beltran is having issues and hurting yet he is still in the lineup as a power threat.

    Sounds about right and par for the course with this team right now

  49. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    ” With Lackey,you really don’t know which one will show up.”

    Yes you do.

    The ugly one always shows up.

    ;)

  50. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    So Beltran is having issues and hurting yet he is still in the lineup as a power threat.

    Sounds about right and par for the course with this team right now

    it is a failure of management and another symptom of the systemic issues with the franchise

  51. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    So those who say the “old Yanks would have drilled Player X” must have short memories because it simply isn’t true.

    again tell Mike Piazza that

    —–

    Clemens is a different animal.

    Perhaps it was that incident with Piazza and the media sh!tstorm that came with it is why Torre didn’t allow his pitchers to get into bean brawls with anyone after that.

  52. Tabbert June 29th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Cano- I wasn’t able to reply back to your post earlier, but you had a great point about Tanaka and that opt out. Yankees better do all they can possibly do to build a strong core around Tank, or he could easily bolt. Obviously that’s looking far ahead, but He is the new cornerstone of this franchise and the Yankees are going to have to show him that they will do whatever possible to put a solid cast around him.

  53. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    JimK June 29th, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Pete, I agree that Beltran looks much better from the RS than the LS, but the fact that his problem is his right elbow should indicate that his swings would be worse from the RS.
    ================

    Most LHH get most of their power from the right or bottom arm. Thats why folks were so concerned about Tex swing from the LS with that wrist of his (although its not been a problem).

  54. Tabbert June 29th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    While I was upset about the Napoli comments ( I was literally yelling the same thing when he threw a fastball) what really upset me was the World Series like celebration the Red Sox had after they won the game. Uehara was acting like a complete jacka** after the game.

  55. Villa Nova-Ya June 29th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    MTU -

    Well, that goes without saying!! He’s always ugly. LOL Just sometimes he’s ugly and pitches bad, sometimes he’s ugly and pitches well….

  56. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    I miss those days when Darryl gave Armando the flying hook shot. Took no prisoners

  57. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Guys who advocate players getting drilled would never have the balls themselves to get in the batter’s box.

    I usually hate when the Yanks play the RS because fans tend to say stupid things.

  58. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    jimK. As for your own personal experience, it may be because you are a natural RH swinger and your power arm is the right arm. Tex throws from the right side, so his power arm is his right arm, and yes, it may very well be affecting him from the right side as well but perhaps to a lesser extent as he can generate power from his non dominant bottom arm. May be harder to generate power from the top arm when its not your dominant one. But then, I am no expert

  59. Hearn June 29th, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    It’s about respect. Or complete lack there of from Red Sox end.

  60. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Guys who advocate players getting drilled would never have the balls themselves to get in the batter’s box.

    ==

    Where do you get this idea from? If I was being paid like those players, I would wear the elbow protectors, the more protective helmet and take my beaning.

  61. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

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  62. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:43 pm

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    GF, I respect your right to feel that way, but I certainly do not. And I don’t think it’s stupid either.

  63. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:44 pm

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  64. J. Alfred Prufrock June 29th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Big deal or not the Yankees would let you rob them, taking everything but the dust pan in the closest and then offer you a beer on your way out of the house.

    Freaking take a stand on some of this BS from Boston that happens every single year. Every year the Yanks let Boston pull some kind of classless trashy stunt with zero reprucussions. It’s pathetic.
    ///

    Every. Single. Year.

    Amen. I will say that Girardi had maybe his finest hour last year, as far as I’m concerned, getting behind Alex, and I will never forget how the whole team rallied behind him ( at least, the real Yankees on the team); C was pointed in defense of Alex and in excoriating that Dempster fool, and will we ever forget Gardner fighting mad, flush-faced, swinging at people? lol! I loved the solidarity, Joe’s impassioned, dead-sincere: “What if that was your chiiiild?

    More of that please, not for it’s own sake, but because these losers have somehow gotten it into their heads that it’s ok to dis the Yankees and they’re never called on the carpet for their bush-league stuff, in fact, they know the ESPN mentality will applaud them for it, try to turn Napoli into some kind of folk hero, no doubt.

    What an idiot the guy is – you’re dissing one of the best pitchers in the game, how foolish you look.

    Get a lead, please, put Dellin in and have him momentarily forget his mechanics against Big Mike ;) That oughta feel good. If they don’t want Deal to do that, then have Warren do it, or Jo-Ram. The possibilities are endless :D

  65. tomingeorgia June 29th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Tabbert,
    When I saw tanaka shake McCann of a couple of times, I was worried, and I was tight, and I said the same thing.

  66. Pat M. June 29th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    People here just talk about drilling guys as if it’s no big deal. Hey getting hit with a baseball hurts folks bigtime folks. Dust him if you so choose but no need to get into a beanball exchange just because Napoli said a few unkind words about Tanaka. This is the big leagues get over it and move on.

  67. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Napoli was a step from the dugout celebrating with his teammates. He didn’t make a public statement to a reporter, etc. It’s not a big deal.

  68. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    I hate to say it, but Prufrock and his 2nd screen name are completely right.

  69. Pat M. June 29th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    Yeah Pruf and after they nail Naps then how about you dig it the box and get set for the payback…..

  70. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    J. AL – Right on. Right on.

    I mean what was wrong with Girardi’s passion to stand up for AL? I loved it, and everyone else who isn’t a sniffling crybaby A-Rod hater loved it too. More of that please!!

  71. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Mister Tom-

    The polite thing would have been for Napoli to thank Tanaka for that pitch.

    After all it was a gift.

    :)

  72. pete22 June 29th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Guys who advocate players getting drilled would never have the balls themselves to get in the batter’s box.
    =================

    Nobody is advocating hitting him in the head, but knocking batters down and plunking batters below the neck has been part of the game forever. With all the armor these guys have it usually only causes a problem if you get hit in the hands, knee or ankle.

    You look at the HBP Red Sox vs Yankees in recent years and its so overwhelmingly one sided.

    Pedro himself said he would just plunk guys he did not want to pitch to instead of giving them a IBB. It also pays off in subsequent AB since they know he is not afraid to go inside. I believe this is an organizational position and its been effective for them.

    Napoli hit that outside pitch because he had no fear of Tanaka going in on him. Maybe someone should make him think twice about hanging over the plate, especially when he is going to be calling pitchers idiots on national TV, and yes, all the players know the dugouts on these nationally televised games are miked

  73. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    There won’t be payback. Napoli gets drilled and both benches will be warned immediately. No payback at all.

  74. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Clemens is a different animal.

    Perhaps it was that incident with Piazza and the media sh!tstorm that came with it is why Torre didn’t allow his pitchers to get into bean brawls with anyone after that.

    perhaps but (1) Joe supported Clemens or did not say anything publicly to go against him thereby endorsing it by silence and (2) i limited my discussion to the 96-01 Yanks not what went on after

  75. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Not just that Pat M. But someone has to teach Uehara for his post-save antics. If that was Jose Valverde, people would have an issue. Every time Uehara acts like that, one of his teammates deserves to take a drill shot.

  76. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    pete22 – Right on. Right on.

  77. J. Alfred Prufrock June 29th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    J. AL – Right on. Right on.

    I mean what was wrong with Girardi’s passion to stand up for AL? I loved it, and everyone else who isn’t a sniffling crybaby A-Rod hater loved it too. More of that please!!
    ///

    The only one who didn’t like it was closet Sawx fan Rhoda. Remember – even the Yankees were going to secretly applaud Dempster for his public service??

    Not only were the Yankees and Joe livid, the entire baseball world condemned that punk. We really felt like the Yanks during that thing – Alex’s shot over the CF wall was as sweet as it gets :)

  78. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Pat M. June 29th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
    Yeah Pruf and after they nail Naps then how about you dig it the box and get set for the payback…..

    i am little surprised about this stance given one of the greatest pitchers when you were in the farm would disagree with you

    “Gibson was a fierce competitor who rarely smiled and was known to throw brushback pitches to let batters know who was in charge, similar to his contemporary and fellow Hall of Famer Don Drysdale. Even so, Gibson had good control and hit only 102 batters in his career (fewer than Drysdale’s 154).

    Gibson showed no mercy, even to players he liked. Gibson’s closest friend on the Cardinals was first baseman Bill White, who was later traded to the Philadelphia Phillies. The first time White batted against Gibson as a Phillie, Gibson hit him on the arm with a fastball. Gibson was surly and brusque even with his teammates. When his catcher Tim McCarver went to the mound for a conference, Gibson brushed him off, saying “The only thing you know about pitching is you can’t hit it.””

  79. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Excuse me. My mistake.

    I said Kershaw had 26 consecutive scoreless innings.

    It was 28.

    :shock:

  80. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Alex’s shot over the CF wall was as sweet as it gets

    I think the Red Sox winning the World Series was a little sweeter. Just a little. :)

  81. Hearn June 29th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    What would Bob Gibson do if he were pitching tonight? Or Clemens or Ryan or Seaver or Marichal.

    Its not about whether or not he was right or wrong (Tanaka WAS an idiot for shaking off McCann) but It’s part of the fabric of the game…and again…I’m not saying a beanball at his head. One in his rear or at least behind him to make him know they acknowledged his comment. Then we all move on.

  82. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    The only one who didn’t like it was closet Sawx fan Rhoda. Remember – even the Yankees were going to secretly applaud Dempster for his public service??

    Not only were the Yankees and Joe livid, the entire baseball world condemned that punk. We really felt like the Yanks during that thing – Alex’s shot over the CF wall was as sweet as it gets

    bullseye this was a great point alfred it us against everyone else

  83. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Truth Pruf.

    A. Thing. Of. Beauty.

  84. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Its not about whether or not he was right or wrong (Tanaka WAS an idiot for shaking off McCann) but It’s part of the fabric of the game…and again…I’m not saying a beanball at his head. One in his rear or at least behind him to make him know they acknowledged his comment. Then we all move on.

    excellent point excellent point

  85. Pat M. June 29th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Hell if the count runs 3-1 and there’s a base open dust him….

  86. Villa Nova-Ya June 29th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    J Alfred,

    They can’t broadcast their intentions or try get a pitcher ejected and possibly suspended. So IF thet decide Napoli needs some something, it can’t be today.

    But it is true the Yankees are reluctant to get into this. And I waver, honestly, about whether I’m proud of them for rising above the fray, and on the other hand wishing they would stand strong. I agree that they were at their finest in sticking up for Alex last year. In that case, the intent was clear, and the course f action just as clear Napoli’s garbage was just the same old, same old classless stuff the Red Sox get away it all the time.

  87. tomingeorgia June 29th, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Mister MTU,
    He practically put in on a tee. Tanaka’s a rookie in MLB. Welcome, son, and learn your lessons.

  88. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    So now the new comeback for the anti payback crowd is that bloggers have to step into the batters back after the batter gets hit. Man how these “old school” guys have gotten soft

    Kind of like when the hippies started turning into yuppies

  89. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    Truth Unk.

    A. Thing. Of. Beauty.

  90. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2014 at 7:56 pm
    So now the new comeback for the anti payback crowd is that bloggers have to step into the batters back after the batter gets hit. Man how these “old school” guys have gotten soft

    very true pretty soon we will hear when i was a kid i had to walk ten miles in the snow to get to school rolling eyes

  91. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Mister Tom-

    You don’t learn squat w/o mistakes.

  92. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Hell yeah Pat M.!!! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

    That’s what I like to read.

  93. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Clemens is a different animal.

    Perhaps it was that incident with Piazza and the media sh!tstorm that came with it is why Torre didn’t allow his pitchers to get into bean brawls with anyone after that.

    perhaps but (1) Joe supported Clemens or did not say anything publicly to go against him thereby endorsing it by silence and (2) i limited my discussion to the 96-01 Yanks not what went on after

    —-

    But several of those “old Yanks” were still Yanks after 2001. So you’re argument isn’t very strong when you conveniently limit it to specific years.

  94. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    I’ll take a beaning or a dusting in every at bat for that kind of money.

    I’ll use my David Ortiz protective gear and take my base.

    Truth.

    A. Thing. Of. Beauty.

  95. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Toronto and Orioles lost. Which Whitley will show up? Why do I think Big Sloppy can’t wait to face him?

  96. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    Hell yeah Pat M.!!! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

    That’s what I like to read.

  97. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    But several of those “old Yanks” were still Yanks after 2001. So you’re argument isn’t very strong when you conveniently limit it to specific years.

    fine ’03 things were never the same after ’04 so i am drawing the line at that point but the actual dynasty years yeah they were tougher maybe winning all those games did it for them by El Duque Wells Clemens even Andy then they were barking on the mound Cone was a true pro though

  98. MTU June 29th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Enjoy the game folks.

  99. UnKnown June 29th, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Time to TURN UP!!

  100. Unknowing June 29th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Time to TURN UP!!

    Let’s go!!!

  101. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    get out of here Mookie Betts making his mlb debut tonight after only 23 games in AAA not 30 not 40 after 23 whole games batting .322

  102. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Sure let’s emulate the Red Sox! :)

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock June 29th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    You look at the HBP Red Sox vs Yankees in recent years and its so overwhelmingly one sided.

    Pedro himself said he would just plunk guys he did not want to pitch to instead of giving them a IBB.
    ///

    Pedro drilled Alex in 2004 in the ribs and he was never the same in that series.

  104. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Sure let’s emulate the Red Sox! :)

    that’s what they did for the better part of every season since 2004 smh sometimes geez

  105. Pat M. June 29th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Missing Cano…..I watched Gibson extract a few facial hairs off the chin of Charlie Spikes one afternoon in Fort Laud and I was on deck….Big Charlie waved helplessly at three off speed pitches and couldn’t get out of there fast enough. Gibby was gone the next inning when I walked up to the plate……No thank you

  106. SweetSpot June 29th, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    They have no outfield, their need is much greater. We’re 1.5 out of first and there’s no urgency at all to make a change.

  107. Missing Cano June 29th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Sure let’s emulate the Red Sox! :)

    actually the more i think about the Yanks are quasi already following the Red Sox go with me on this

    Sox let their CF go and have tried to fill his hole with the likes of Jackie Bradley and Sizemore

    Yanks let their 2b go and have tried to fill his hole with the likes of Roberts primarily with an occasional whiff of Solarte

    Sox now call up Mookie Betts their hot hitting prospect in AAA after only 22 games to replace the now gone CF (Ellsbury)

    The Yanks will inevitably call up Robert Refsnyder their hot hitting prospect in AAA who is actually outhitting Betts in AAA but the Yanks unfortunately will wait 30 for 40 games at least

  108. Giuseppe Franco June 29th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    I know a lot of us would like to see the game played old school like it was decades ago.

    But the game has changed since then whether we like it or not.

    Bob Gibson would never be allowed to “intimidate” the way he did when he was pitching.

    Pitchers like that now would be considered dirty or labeled headhunters.

  109. leeteam June 29th, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Why not say it?

    Napoli is a racist!

    Everyone plays the race card. Anyone calling Obama an idiot would also be branded a racist.

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