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Pregame notes: Microfracture surgery possible for Sabathia

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 04, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC Sabathia

CC Sabathia will meet with Dr. James Andrews next Monday to determine what’s next in Sabathia’s attempt to recover from degenerative damage in his right knee. Whatever they decide, it’s safe to assume Sabathia is finished for the season.

“I think that’s probably fair to say,” manager Joe Girardi said.

With significant cartilage damage, it’s possible Sabathia will need microfracture surgery, a pretty intense procedure that basically attempts to force the body to build new cartilage by drilling small holes into the bone. Several NBA players have had the procedure, including notable (and not necessarily encouraging) examples Amar’e Stoudemire and Greg Oden. In baseball, Matt Kemp had some microfracture work done to his ankle, Derek Holland is still working his way back from microfracture surgery on his knee, and former top prospect Jeff Clement has his career basically derailed by knee problems that he attempted to fix with a microfracture operation.

At the very least, it seems worth wondering whether this could cost Sabathia the rest of his career.

“I think it’s too early to predict that,” Girardi said. “Whenever you have degenerative issues that cause surgery or things like that, there’s always a little question, yeah.”

Frankly, we don’t even know that microfracture surgery is going to happen, it’s simply a possibility that’s looming. But the fact it’s entered into the discussion — along with the acknowledgement that the Yankees assume Sabathia’s done for the year — gives a sense of just how serious the situation has become (or always was).

“(Microfracture surgery) is always a possibility when you have a degenerative knee,” Girardi said. “That could be one of the steps. I’m not exactly sure if he was to have surgery what it’s going to be. That’s for them to determine, but that’s always a possibility. And that’s a surgery that a lot of players don’t want to hear that they need to have. It’s a pretty long rehab.”

Brian McCann• Girardi said he expects to have Brian McCann available as a pinch hitter if necessary. His left foot is sore, but McCann was able to play through it last night. No tests are scheduled and McCann is expected to be in the lineup again tomorrow.

• Routine day off for Derek Jeter. “He’s played seven days in a row,” Girardi said. “Day game after a night game. He played a day game after a night game the other day at home, so just a day off in a long stretch.”

• With a more typical right-hander on the mound for the Twins — one that doesn’t have the reverse splits of Phil Hughes — Zelous Wheeler is out of the lineup today. Of course, Wheeler was still a topic of pregame conversation, and Girardi said there was real consideration to carrying Wheeler out of spring training. “He was definitely in the conversation,” Girardi said. “We thought with the way our team was constructed and the way Solarte had swung the bat, that he had kind of earned the job, but Wheeler was definitely in the mix. And he was in the mix when he came. We talked about it, that this was a guy who could force his way onto our team or play his way onto our team during spring training or in the course of the season.”

• Any chance Chase Whitley’s recent starts are the product of mid-season fatigue? He’s already approaching his career high in innings. “I don’t know,” Girardi said. “I think it’s probably too easy to predict that, but I’m sure that conversation is going to come up because of the type of pitcher that he’s been in the past, being a reliever and never really throwing a ton of innings. I’m sure that’s going to come up. It’s probably something that we have to monitor and watch carefully and see where he’s at.”

• Today, all of baseball will commemorate the 75th anniversary of Lou Gehrig’s “luckiest man” speech. Unfortunately, while honoring Gehrig, the Yankees will be wearing ridiculous Fourth of July hats that are all red on top (some teams were given hats that are blue up top, those look much better). Brett Gardner coated his with baby powder. Said it made it look better.

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138 Responses to “Pregame notes: Microfracture surgery possible for Sabathia”

  1. ac1 July 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    So cc done for the year, nova done until next summer, and pineda likely out for the year, plus the crappy offense, when will the yankees admit they need to rebuild and drop some of the dead weight?

    Instead, I see a 90 percent chance looking a head, that if cliff lee shows he recovered, he will be a yankee by July 31…

  2. exiledintampa July 4th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    The only way they make the post season is if they can play all remaining games on the road.

    This is supposed to be the defining road trip. What happens will determine what they do going forward. My only problem with that is they’re a much better team away from home. They need to repair what’s broken at Yankee stadium

  3. ac1 July 4th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    The yankees starting rotation is going to be non existent soon….
    Nuno sucks and Whitley is running out of innings.
    Kuroda seems to be falling off.
    Basically phelps has gone from back up number 5 to a number 2….

  4. bbb51 July 4th, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    longtimefan July 4th, 2014 at 1:36 pm
    No Zelous, Girardi determined he need a rest.

    Nice hitting kid, now grab some pine, we have veterans that need to miraculously get back to the backs of their baseball cards.

  5. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    speak for yourself, i do not concede the division when we’re 4.5 out on july 4th behind a flawed baltimore team in a weak division.

    the ’73 mets were mediocre at best and pretty boring, but they beat the big red machine in the NLCS and they took oakland to 7 games in the W.S.

    if there was an interweb then, many mets fans would have written them off on July 4th when they were 10 games under .500 and dead last in the NL East with 5 teams to pass.

    i just don’t give up that easy…

  6. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    left out that the mets went 82-79 that year.

  7. tomingeorgia July 4th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Paul Harvey on the Fourth of July
    If you haven’t heard this, you should.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX-APfe3i8Q

  8. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    i also didn’t give up on july 4th 1978 when the yankees were 9 games out behind 2 teams.

  9. tucker July 4th, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    That opt out clause that Cash introduced to CC’s original contract is looking better and better. It wasn’t CC’s idea. Cash introduced it to the negotiations without prompting. So the Yanks offered CC far more money than anyone else was considering — and an opt out clause, which CC smartly exercised to saddle the Yanks with potentially four years of non production.

    Time for a new GM.

  10. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    speak for yourself, i do not concede the division when we’re 4.5 out on july 4th behind a flawed baltimore team in a weak division.
    =================
    well said Y’s.

    I was just watching a Jeter interview before today’s game and it got me wondering.
    Who will be the go-to guy next year when he is gone?
    He is the Yankees and has been from the day he got here.
    That’s a great 20 year run.
    Who will be the player fans think of, both Yankee and non Yankee fans, when he is gone?
    I can’t think of anyone on this team as of now.

  11. Giuseppe Franco July 4th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    That ’78 Yankees team could hit. This one can’t.

    And the FO believes the offense isn’t a problem so I don’t see a ton of hope for optimism.

  12. MG July 4th, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Tar July 4th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
    MG

    I like the Andy analogy, but right now CC is in the best “overall” shape of his life. Some people complained because he lost weight ( not you), those same people would complain today if he didn’t lose weight, that it’s because of his extra weight that he has the knee problem.
    ——————————————
    Tar, it would be great if he could become the next Andy, I just wonder whether he has enough time left to do so. Andy had to learn how to pitch at an early age because he didn’t have the great fastball and simply refined it as he got older. He was also in great shape so could really work on his mechanics over time.

    CC is going to have to not only get his knee in shape but also his arm. Once he gets to that level he will then have to start learning how to precisely locate his pitches, it’s something he’s never really been good at before.

    I am a big CC fan (and a huge Andy fan) so am rooting for him to get back and be a really good pitcher, I just hope he doesn’t decide to accept less than that for the sake of a contract.

  13. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    That ’78 Yankees team could hit. This one can’t.
    ===============
    Yet it might.

  14. Benny Blanco July 4th, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Micro – fracture surgery is no joke. I had that 5 years ago. It’s the kiss of death to basketball players. CC WILL NEED at minimum 1 year of rehab.

  15. exiledintampa July 4th, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    i also didn’t give up on july 4th 1978 when the yankees were 9 games out behind 2 teams.

    I was stationed in a little Canadian tank regiment Base in Lahr, Germany that year. There was a sox fan in my barracks. We got 2 day old papers and searched the box scores to watch the Yankee rise and red sox fall. I love Bucky Dent.

  16. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    remember the yankees had decided to make a ‘first strike’ attempt to blow CC out of the water. and a little correction, cc did not opt out, the yankees basically ‘bought off’ his right to opt out.

    and i have been saying that the yankees should always look at an opt out as a chance to escape the bad end of a contract.

    had they not extended cc they wouldn’t have to pay him that last $50M or so, but even more, had they let him opt out and leave, they would have saves more like $100 and missed out on only 1 really good season.

  17. Giuseppe Franco July 4th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    That ’78 Yankees team could hit. This one can’t.
    ===============
    Yet it might.

    ——

    I’m sure you’re right if it was 2009. Now? I wouldn’t be so sure about that.

    I think if and when they do go through a hot streak it will be the pen that implodes because Girardi has been forced to ride Warren and Betances so hard this season that sooner or later they are going to wear down.

  18. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    since we’re referencing the 1973 mets i say

    Ya Gotta Believe!

  19. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    I’m sure you’re right if it was 2009. Now? I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
    ====================
    You seem pretty sure they won’t or can’t.
    That’s a much stronger word than the one I used which was might.

  20. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    I think if and when they do go through a hot streak it will be the pen that implodes because Girardi has been forced to ride Warren and Betances so hard this season that sooner or later they are going to wear down.
    ===========================
    If they go thru a hot steak it will be because they are hitting.
    This would give the pen the rest they will need.

  21. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    Getting back to Jeter.

    If they don’t have a leader and we as fans expect them to be anything like the team we have watched the past 20 years and for that matter, the early 60′s and mid-to-late 70′s, there was always a face of the Yankees, one the team and fans rallied around.

    It will be hard to win without one.

  22. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    the teams of the late 70′s and early 80′s didn’t have a leader that the fans and players rallied around. some liked reggie, others hated him and like thurman, randolph was the captain but was not the leader…

    who the leader is going to be moving forward is way down my list of things that need to be addressed. its something you can’t force.

  23. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    I have to disagree Y’s.

    All of those teams had leaders. What makes it hard to pick one out is that there were multiple leaders to choose from.

    Those teams all had a personality and an identity as well.

    This team certainly does not.

  24. astrocityfan July 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Happy Fourth of Fourth of July everyone!
    Best wishes to CC but it doesn’t look good.
    When the yanks score 1 run or less tonight will joe g and company realize it’s because Roberts and Johnson are back in the lineup or just tip the hat to the twins?
    I swear if they don’t do some real retooling soon I’m done for the year. It’s too frustrating watching them trot out the same guys over and over when they have alternatives.

  25. Tar July 4th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    MG

    I agree with everything you said, and feel the same way about both those guys.

    BTW it’s great to see you posting, even if it is occasionally.

  26. tomingeorgia July 4th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    let’s go, boys, even with the odd lineup! Start at least a min-win streak today, then worry about tomorrow.

  27. UnKnown July 4th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    OMG Bretts hat. I love it.

  28. mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    precious

  29. Ys Guy July 4th, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    lotta people giving up on july 4th.

    how unamereican.

  30. alabamayankee July 4th, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    As I posted earlier, CC is done. For good. Period. Fugetaboudit. Being a nice guy doesn’t mean he can overcome a problem that will have him hobbling for the rest of his life.

    And by the way, the new Yankee definition of a win streak is one game.

  31. UnKnown July 4th, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    Cowboy Up. Its Joe West Time

  32. Giuseppe Franco July 4th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    mick July 4th, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    I’m sure you’re right if it was 2009. Now? I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
    ====================
    You seem pretty sure they won’t or can’t.
    That’s a much stronger word than the one I used which was might.

    —–

    I said in ST of 2013 that this team was going to have a really hard time scoring runs. That turned out to be true.

    I said it again in ST of 2014 and so far it has turned out to be true.

    So, yeah, I’m quite sure it’s not gonna happen the rest of this season either, especially when the FO doesn’t see the offense as a big problem.

  33. jlyanks85 July 4th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    ac1 says:
    July 4, 2014 at 2:06 pm
    The yankees starting rotation is going to be non existent soon….
    Nuno sucks and Whitley is running out of innings.
    Kuroda seems to be falling off.
    Basically phelps has gone from back up number 5 to a number 2….

    Kuroda just went 8 innings and gave up 2 runs in his last start. He’s been good his last 3 starts. Far from falling off.

  34. jlyanks85 July 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    This division alkne should give people hope we can have a decent run and sneak in as al east winners.

    I don’t see anybody winning more than mid-high 80s in the division. If only the Yankees started playing like your supposed to at home.

  35. leeteam July 4th, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    If CC is out for the remainder of the season or if his career is over, do the Yankees have insurance to cover CC’s salary?

    Does CC’s salary continue to count toward the team’s total salary even if his career is over?

    Do the Yankees release him, to eliminate his salary from the team’s salary, but continue to pay his salary?

    Can someone explain what happens???

    Thanks

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