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Postgame notes: “It came down to, we didn’t score runs”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 05, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alfonso Soriano

This game was basically the same old story, but with a surprise twist ending.

Francisco Cervelli’s 11th-inning throwing error was stunning and final. His throw sailed into the outfield and the game was suddenly over, ended just as the Yankees seemed to have the opportunity they desperately needed to get out of a bases-loaded jam. Cervelli was shaking his head in the clubhouse afterward, mad at himself for trying to make a throw when he knew he should have simply held onto the ball. That’s what ended the game.

What lost the game, though, was the same thing that’s lost many, many Yankees games this season.

“It came down to, we didn’t score runs today,” manager Joe Girardi said.

The Yankees had seven hits and all were singles. They scored six runs in the first two innings on Friday, but since then they have scored just one run in 18 innings. Saturday’s Twins starter was a 30-year-old rookie named Yohan Pino who was making just his fourth major-league appearance, and he retired 12 of the last 13 batters he faced. The Yankees only productive hit was a two-out RBI single in the fifth inning. That hit came from Cervelli, the guy who wound up being the goat.

“It was a game that seemed like it was going to go on forever,” Derek Jeter said. “Opportunities were few and far between, but they capitalized on a mistake and beat us.”

Can’t really pin a one-run game on a single player, but it’s impossible to overlook the fact that Alfonso Soriano looks completely lost right now. Two questionable plays in the field ultimately didn’t hurt the Yankees, but Soriano’s 0-for-4 with two strikeouts certainly didn’t help. Girardi said he’s tempted by Soriano’s bat because Soriano is one of the only Yankees outfielders who has the potential to be a true power hitter on any given night. Problem is, he’s not making enough hard contact for that power to mean much. Because he’s not hitting, Soriano’s not playing nearly as much, and not playing is no way to rediscover timing and get on a roll.

“It’s tough,” Soriano said. “To not play for two days, then play today, there’s no rhythm. It’s hard for me to make adjustments. If I don’t see another pitch for two days, it’s very hard for me to make adjustments and get my rhythm.”

It’s interesting that when Soriano was still an everyday player early in the season, he was having very little success against right-handers, but he was hitting lefties pretty well. Although he’s still getting regular at-bats against left-handers, it seems that missing those at-bats against right-handers might be taking away his rhythm and timing, and as a possible consequence he’s no longer hitting lefties either.

“I put him out there today hoping he would provide some offense and it was tough,” Girardi said. “No one really did today.”

Zelous Wheeler• X-rays on Brian McCann’s sore foot came back negative, but Girardi acknowledged that McCann might sit out tomorrow’s game as well. “From a long-term aspect, I don’t think it’s a big deal,” Girardi said. “But short term, he may be out a few days.”

• McCann was supposed to play today. He was scratched only after feeling that same sore left food during batting practice. “He just said he was feeling it,” Girardi said. “He didn’t really do much yesterday so he hadn’t really tested it. It was bothering him so I said, let’s sit down and make sure there’s not something seriously wrong. So we had him X-rayed, and that came back negative as I said, but we’ve got to get it cleared up.”

• Worth keeping an eye on: According to Donnie Collins, tonight’s Triple-A starter was supposed to be Bruce Billings, but he was scratched just minutes before game time. After burning through the bullpen these past two games, it’s worth wondering if Billings might be on his way for a Sunday call-up to give the Yankees a true long man who could deliver much-needed innings. I suppose he could replace Jim Miller (basically swapping a one-inning guy for a multi-inning guy). Just a possibility. Haven’t heard that a move is actually happening.

• On that ball that fell between Jeter and Soriano in the eighth inning, neither player called for it. “I had a chance at the ball,” Soriano said. “It was too late to call it. We didn’t have communication on that one. It was a little bit in the sun and when I got out, it was too late to call it. I didn’t want to run into Jeet, so I was a little scared at the last moment”

• On the Cervelli throw that ended the game, Cervelli said that his view of first base was blocked by the runner. He tried at the last second to stop himself from finishing the throw, and when he did that, he wound up launching the ball high and into the outfield. “When I try to turn the double play, I just have to eat the ball because if I don’t have vision, I have to stop,” Cervelli said.

Derek Jeter, Brian Dozier• Another awfully good start by David Phelps, who allowed one run on three hits through seven innings. He’s been much better lately. “I’ve been aggressive in the zone, kept the ball down more than anything,” Phelps said. “I sat down with (mental conditioning coach Chad Bohling) and talked to him about what makes me successful and he got a couple things; first-pitch strikes, leadoff hitters and bearing down with two outs. Those are things I’ve stressed these last couple outings and it’s really seemed to pay off.”

• Of course, Phelps only said that he sat down with “Chad” to talk about what makes him successful. I don’t necessarily remember being a part of that conversation, but there’s at least some chance he’s giving me most of the credit for his recent improvement. Slim chance, but some chance.

• The Josh Willingham home run came on a fastball. Phelps said he wanted the pitch down and away, but it went middle.

• Jacoby Ellsbury has a hit in 13 of his past 16 games … Brian Roberts is hitting .500 in his past three games … Cervelli came to Minnesota with five hits this season. He’s doubled that total during this series.

• The Twins gave Jeter the second base bag used for the final game at the Metrodome — a game the Yankees won to clinch the 2009 division series — and Hall of Famer Paul Molitor presented Jeter with a $10,000 check for his Turn 2 Foundation. Twins manager Ron Gardenhire addressed the crowd and said it had been an honor to face Jeter over the years. “I’ve always had the utmost respect for Ron Gardenhire,” Jeter said. “So for him to say those things about me before the game, it’s something that I will remember. It’s pretty special. It made me feel good.”

• If you missed it in the game post, Dean Anna has been claimed off waivers by the Pirates.

• Phelps gets the final word: “The last two days, we scored seven and six runs. We know what we’re capable of. We saw a guy today that we had never seen. Especially with veteran teams, that can kind of be a buzz saw. Tip your cap to him because he pitched a great game. They made a lot of good plays in the field. We have games like this. It happens.”

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516 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It came down to, we didn’t score runs””

  1. wanzies222 July 5th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Caught on the turn again….

    Re-post:

    Clutch -

    Dan is correct… and this has been discussed here in the past…

    Now that the A’s are out of the SP market, the suitors for big contracts is very small. Look at the contenders and see how many you find that would be willing to take on 15-20m per year contracts (think Hamels and Price):

    Atlanta – nope
    St. L – maybe
    Pittsburgh – nope
    Cincinnati – nope
    Dodgers – maybe
    SF – nope
    Baltimore – nope
    Toronto – they want 1 yr rentals
    NYY – yes
    KC – nope
    Clev – nope
    Angels – nope
    Seattle – maybe

    Not many places for sellers to go.

    The A’s trade could turn out to be very helpful to the Yankees.

    Steve

  2. wanzies222 July 5th, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Re-post:

    dan -

    I’m not debating the merits of what order the Phillies dump their bad contracts; I’m passing on info that I get from the scouts.

    Steve

  3. Missing Cano July 5th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    “Tip your cap to him because he pitched a great game.”

    good to see all the players are now drinking the tip your cap kool aid now

  4. RhapsodyInBlue July 5th, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Soriano could be right about losing his timing by not playing enough, but whenever I see his penciled in the outfield I have come to expect plays like we saw today.

    He is terrible on defense.

  5. Captain Clutch July 5th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Are the yanks willing to take on Hamels salary? I guess we will find out if the Phillies sell.

  6. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    It’s just a matter of time before Soriano gets released.
    Isn’t Refsnyder a RF?

  7. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    It’s a nightmare to watch Warren and Betances sit in the pen. Why is Miller here?
    Now we can at least sit Thornton a few days.
    He wasn’t bad today against all the rightys.

  8. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    dan -

    I’m not debating the merits of what order the Phillies dump their bad contracts; I’m passing on info that I get from the scouts

    ——

    No, I trust that this is the info you are receiving. And I believe that your sources are probably very credible. But I’ve worked around industries where there’s often tons of rumors and inside information. And I’ve always felt, the best way to evaluate that information is not by evaluating the credibility of the speaker. But rather, to put myself in the shoes of the actor and ask one simple question: what would I do?

    I could be totally wrong here. I’m not acting on any special info in any way. But using that test, I just don’t see the Phils trading Hamels.

  9. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    repost

    Hamels with career low in K/BB ratio after missing time with a shoulder issue (also had shoulder issues in 2011). Also, his numbers would take a hit moving to the AL. Career 4.5 ERA in interleague play (28 starts). I would not give up much for him

  10. jmills July 5th, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Cripes, George Bell should have gotten the shoulder sugery he needed, I don’t know… He was the Jays hitter who helped put my team over the top. He was with the White Sox in ’93, but he didn’t see a lick vs my Jays come playoff time. George, if you hear this, you were more than deserving!

  11. Yankeeclipper July 5th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Tough loss. Cisco should have not thrown ball. Real reason for the loss is due to catatonic bats once again. Soriano is hopelessly loss at the plate. How much longer will Yanks carry him.

  12. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    I thought I had seen McCann grabbing his achilles. Not sure X-Rays show what you need to see, need an MRI for that

    Cervelli might have saved the pen. No guarantees they were going to win w/o the error. That shadow was getting set to cross the plate and we could have still be playing

  13. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    I envisioned that exact play about a pitch or 2 before it happened.
    When he dribbled it to Thornton I just about crapped my pants.

  14. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Hamels is owed minimum 117 and possibly 136 million.—2019

    Lee is owed minimum 75 and possibly 90 mil. —2016

    Thats a lot of Steindollars

  15. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    The Soriano thing befuddles me. More than five weeks ago, before the platoon, Soriano was exhibiting at bats that were historically bad, even for him. A 10 to 1 SO to walk ratio. He’s a player who’s never, to my knowledge, been platooned. They put him on the short side of a platoon and expect things to get better?

    (shaking head)

  16. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Hal’s worst nightmare is spending big bucks and getting little return.
    In that regard he is like his old man.
    George would rant and rave , Hal never blows his cool.
    Highly unlikely he goes for someone elses rejects anyway.

  17. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    I think my figures are a little off… but you get the idea…they aint cheap.

  18. Captain Clutch July 5th, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    I really hope that they bring Ramirez back soon. They really need another good arm in the bullpen.

  19. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    It’s a shame they have to wait for an injury to make a move.
    Last year they had many more and were constantly bringing up kids.
    This team has been relatively healthy except for the 3 pitchers.

  20. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Soriano had a 8 K/BB ratio the first 3 months last year, and hit 25 HR the last 3 months dropping the K/BB to 3

    I guess Joe does not believe in positive regression for Soriano. Maybe if Beltran was not hogging the DH spot Joe would have given him more time, but his defense is awful

  21. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    I wonder if they even consider releasing Soriano an option?

  22. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Montero having himself a pretty good year so far.

    .288 .364 .485 .849

  23. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    It’s a shame they have to wait for an injury to make a move.
    Last year they had many more and were constantly bringing up kids.
    This team has been relatively healthy except for the 3 pitchers
    =================

    The position players have been remarkably healthy, one of the healthiest in the league if we believe the story that Beltran is fine . Its easy to move kids up due to injury, although the kids failed miserably last year. Much harder to do when highly paid players are said to be healthy

  24. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    Montero having himself a pretty good year so far.

    .288 .364 .485 .849
    ================

    Cano and Granderson and Hughes are too, although Hughes has been backsliding the last month or so.

  25. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Nick Franklin too. Plays SS and 2nd

    .298 .396 .486 .882

    Ackley still struggling, Smoak sent down.

  26. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    throw in Monteros 5-5 the other night and that looks good for a minor leaguer.

  27. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    I wonder if they even consider releasing Soriano an option?
    =====================

    Scared to death a team like Boston or Tampa picks him up and he goes on a tear like last year

  28. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Is Grandy having a good year? Good for him he’s a good guy. I know he struggled out of the gate and I haven’t payed any attention to the Mutts.

  29. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    Scared to death a team like Boston or Tampa picks him up and he goes on a tear like last year
    =======================
    You might be right about the fear factor.
    There’s no way he can play everyday here anymore.
    I even wonder if he’d hit if he did play everyday from the beginning of the year.

  30. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Last year Sori was the star of the team.
    This year he’s a nobody.
    He does seem to be a sensitive guy.

  31. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    Sori can only hit when Alex is around. No Alex…. sucky Sori.

    SHould have traded him to Seattle before the season started…as I recommended I might add.

  32. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    I can see them trading Sori at the deadline to a contending team in the NL that thinks he can repeat what he did last season.

    Maybe for another guy who needs a change of scenery.

  33. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/.....o-soriano/

    ——-

    Some folks are just late to the party.

    I first pointed out, almost six weeks ago, Soriano had 50 SOs and 5 Walks and was done as a hitter. Since then, he’s had 19 SOs and zero unintentional walks.

  34. CompassRosy July 5th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Tar says:
    July 5, 2014 at 8:34 pm
    Nick Franklin too. Plays SS and 2nd

    .298 .396 .486 .882

    Ackley still struggling, Smoak sent down.

    ~ ~ ~
    Clarification . . .
    Smoak was on the DL, had a AAA rehab assignment and then was optioned to AAA once his rehab was over, as LoMo had recently been activated and playing pretty well, so they wanted to see more consistency from Smoak before bringing him back.

  35. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    They have to get a SP soon as Nuno and Whitley only give 5 and kill the pen.
    I don’t see any team helping us w/out getting back a King’s Ransom.

  36. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    “so they wanted to see more consistency from Smoak before bringing him back.”

    Well its early…. but after 14 games in Tacoma he’s ben consistently bad. At least if we go by the numbers.

    .208 .283 .321 .604

  37. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    13th home run for Almonte.

    Left-handed Power. Left-handed Pitching.

    It’s really not that hard.

  38. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    I don’t mind 5 IP starts if you dont give up many runs. League average is less than 6, and less than that for the back end of a rotation. However, Whitley and Nuno are giving up runs now.

    Drew with his 2nd HR of the day to tie the game for the Red Sox. Slow starter but when he heats up he can hit

  39. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    I never thought Sori would duplicate his 2nd half last season but I also never thought he would struggle as much as he has. As several have posted, he has to have ABs to get in a groove but you can’t continue to give him ABs at his level of production. Catch 22

  40. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I really doubt Sori would have hit this year, with or without AB’s. With or without playing in the field.

    Rookies don’t get to make those excuses on the Yankees (see Romine last year)…washed up older guys shouldn’t either.

  41. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Solarte so far 3 for 3.

    His time is next year.

    I actually said that in March. Didn’t seem right until recently.

  42. mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Sori can’t play the field anymore either as he’s taken his hitting woes out there with him.
    Last year he was better than expected.

  43. yankinvegas July 5th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    It really sucks to see an outstanding player like Soriano look so bad. Please release him. It is amazing that virtually every move the Yankees have made for a couple of years has gone up in smoke.
    The 20 year run was unbelievable. In a different way, 2013 and 2014 are unbelievable too.
    There seems to be very little light at the end of the tunnel. I think that we may just have to suck it up and be bad for a while.
    CC breaks down. So does Nova. Pineda, the pitcher all of baseball wanted, is made of tissue paper.
    The greatest 2b in Yankees history is playing for the friggin Seattle Mariners. In the prime of his career. We have a worse record than Toronto, Baltimore, Seattle and KC.
    People are laughing at us.
    Time to rebuild.

  44. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    “Drew with his 2nd HR of the day to tie the game for the Red Sox. Slow starter but when he heats up he can hit”

    —-

    His time might be next year as well.

  45. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    “Drew with his 2nd HR of the day to tie the game for the Red Sox. Slow starter but when he heats up he can hit”

    Clarification he can hit RH pitching. Even last year which was a good year for him…. this is what he hit vs LH. 196.246.340.585…thats awful

  46. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    “It came down to, we didn’t score runs today,” manager Joe Girardi said.

    I’ll sleep better tonite knowing that Joe has it all figured out.

  47. wanzies222 July 5th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Just a random footnote to the whole innings pitched issue…..

    Both Smardzja (sp) and Hammel average 6 UP per outing.

    Buyer beware.

  48. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    “It came down to, we didn’t score runs today,” manager Joe Girardi said.

    I’ll sleep better tonite knowing that Joe has it all figured out.”

    :lol: Good one exiled

    I think I will go finish my book. Have a good night everyone.

  49. Giuseppe Franco July 5th, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    They haven’t scored runs for 2 years.

  50. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Tar – you may be right. If so, father time didn’t gradually become acquainted w/ Sori… He snuck up quickly and suckered punched him :)

  51. mick July 5th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Rebuilding is painful and not something the Yanks are good at.
    Let’s hope the next few years we can develop some of our youth and have a rebirth as we did when Jeter, Bernie, Jorge, Mo and Andy arrived on the scene.
    I don’t even think they were really in development mode back then as they appear to be now.
    They might have just gotten lucky.

    Maybe Clarkin or Banuelos is the next Andy.
    Judge a Justice (no pun intended) type.

    Fill in the rest—

  52. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    The Yankees next year should build a team like Oakland has this year. Lots of role-players. Solarte and Almonte could be excellent role players. Who knows, maybe Pirela too.

    The key is being just a little creative and putting players in situations where they can best succeed.

  53. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Drew probably wants to play for a contender. If he has a good 2nd half and w/o draft pick compensation he will have some options.

    I think they gave up too quick on Solarte on the basis of a handful of good AB by KJ. That turned out to be an illusion. He will be back soon this year. Not a star but a solid player, bit streaky though

  54. foobar July 5th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    mick July 5th, 2014 at 8:34 pm
    throw in Monteros 5-5 the other night and that looks good for a minor leaguer.
    =========================

    Before the 5/5, by my math he would’ve been at .272, .354/.460/.814. Basically very similar to what he did at Scranton for the Yanks back in 2011. It was spectacular for a 21-year old C prospect, not so much for a 24-yr old 1B/DH type however…

    p.s. I still don’t understand folk’s fascination with cano…the first years after ARod and CC’s extensions they did awesome too, and each devolved into albatross contracts around 2 years in. For all the folks clamoring Yanks should’ve kept Cano with another franchise-killing bad contract, it would be nice if they can be forced them to stick around till 2016, they can gloat then or more likely, be forced to eat crow. :) http://www.baseballprospectus......cleid=4464

  55. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Chicken the signs have been there for quite sometime. He fought back hard last year…Cash should have traded him… But he was concerned about not having any RH power.

    Guess what he’s more than concerned now, he’s down right worried.

  56. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Tar July 5th, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    “Drew with his 2nd HR of the day to tie the game for the Red Sox. Slow starter but when he heats up he can hit”

    Clarification he can hit RH pitching. Even last year which was a good year for him…. this is what he hit vs LH. 196.246.340.585…thats awful
    ================

    RHP’ers are 70% of your AB. If he plays solid defense at a key position like SS you can live with it. Yankees are not smart enough to see it though and will sign someone like JJ Hardy

  57. mick July 5th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Hal is dying for the Minors to be productive as it would allow him to get his payroll down.
    He should really go after Billy Beane.
    I wonder who gave him the idea to revamp the farm with the cuban teens?

  58. NYY_Girl_Penny July 5th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Cervelli really never had a chance to be consistent at the plate because he always gets injured I think the guy is a good hitter and can prove that once he has a consistency.

    besides watching him at the plate ias 1 million times better than watching McCramp

  59. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    I think the key for Drew’s value, besides a good 2nd half, is his health. But if he can show he’s healthy, and gets back to hitting right-handers, he could be a good option for the Yanks next year. Because you know he can pick it. The Yanks desperately need left-handed power in their home park. And you probably could sign him for 2-3 year deal.

    That might be the smartest play out there for SS.

  60. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    foobar July 5th, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    I think the lineup is Fubar

  61. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Pete – speaking of Hardy, what happened to his power. IIRC, he hit his first homer of the year against the Yanks during their last series

  62. NYY_Girl_Penny July 5th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    The Yankees are not rebuilding their suffering from how be paralyzed and not be any move since 2009….

    Who we have on this team that we have also overpaid is a direct result from being unprepared not doing anything but focus on budget, simply put.. cheap owners who know nothing about baseball

  63. NYY_Girl_Penny July 5th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    how / hal

  64. Tar July 5th, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    foobar

    Funny you mention Cano… just hilarious when this team can’t score any runs. HAHA

    Meanwhile In the year 2020 you can come on Lohud and say….. aha I told you the back end of Cano’s contract would suck.

    And can we play before the 4-5 game with Roberts? That should be fun

  65. mick July 5th, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    end of conversation.

  66. bigdan22 July 5th, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Fowler with a homer, triple and 5 RBIs tonight. Watch out if he gets a roll.

    He’s an athlete. Can play CF. And he’s 19.

    That’s three years younger than Judge.

  67. jmills July 5th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rp_tDNf4Cmo#

    chicken, this one’s for you my dear southern ami!

  68. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Jmills – if he’s good enough for Cherry, he’s good enough for me :)

  69. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    Giggity

  70. Emaciated July 5th, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Would have been helpful to have our best hitter in the lineup in an extra inning game in which our team only scored 1 run.

  71. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Encarnacion being carried off field by BlueJays trainers

  72. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Encarnacion being carried off field by BlueJays trainers

  73. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Exiled-

    What happened ?

  74. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Lunged at 1B and probably pulled a hammy. Looked bad. They have Dan Johnson hitting well in Buffalo.

  75. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    That is gonna be a problem.

    He is the heart of their order.

    Thanks.

  76. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    Looked like Encarnacion blew out his achilles. The division just became that much more attainable

  77. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    pete22 I couldn’t tell exactly what he hurt but it wasn’t pretty. Always run through 1B. Baseball 101

  78. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Pete-

    Yeah. For Baltimore.

    :(

  79. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Pete – speaking of Hardy, what happened to his power. IIRC, he hit his first homer of the year against the Yanks during their last series
    ==============

    Dont know chicken. Arms look like chicken legs. Also has had defensive issues. Unusual for a contract year, maybe some injury he is playing through

  80. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Shouldn’t talk that way Pete.

    He might be our next SS.

    ;)

  81. yankinvegas July 5th, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Injuries to other teams don’t really change our reality. We suck.

  82. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Mike/exiled – I think I’m gonna make an offer on a house Monday. It may be time to start packing your bags for the first annual lohud beach party (ok, ok. I’m not on the beach but I’m within an hour) :)

    Pete – despite your desire to eradicate all chickens, I am extending an olive branch… you are invited too (but I will definitely have my eye on you)

  83. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    Glenn-

    Congrats and best of luck.

    :)

  84. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Pete-

    Yeah. For Baltimore.
    ======================

    Thing is Baltimore has no SP and unlikely to improve at the deadline, they can be had. Especially if Boston and TB play better, the AL East will be beating each other up the rest of the way. 88 Wins could win the division.

  85. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Pete-

    I’ll comment after I see who we get.

    ;)

  86. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Pete – despite your desire to eradicate all chickens, I am extending an olive branch… you are invited too (but I will definitely have my eye on you)
    ========================

    Good luck on the house. I’m 10,000 miles away, and though I do pass by now and then to visit relatives in Raleigh, time is pretty tight, but thanks for the offer. Do love the beach though.

  87. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    Pete – seriously. I saw that you’ll be absent for a month or so in the near future… good luck, safe travels, and come back soon… enjoy your posts. Plus, its been a lot of fun posting nonsensical stuff with you.

  88. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    Yes Chicken, Best of luck. An hour inland should put you out of hurricane evacuation zone.

  89. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    pete22 I couldn’t tell exactly what he hurt but it wasn’t pretty. Always run through 1B. Baseball 101
    ======================

    I could be wrong on the achilles. but either way he is out for a long while if not for the season. Tough loss, hate to see one of the few offensive forces out there get hurt, even if he is not on our side.

  90. JCPD July 5th, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Best of luck chicken……..

  91. MTU July 5th, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    Night gang.

    See you all in the AM.

  92. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    Nighty Night MTU

  93. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    Exiled/JCPD/Mike – Thanks. After traveling for so long it feels kinda nice to grow roots again

  94. pete22 July 5th, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    chicken. thanks, same here. Probably my last comment for a month or so. I will check out some of the comments here now and then but hate to post on my iphone as that auto-correct drives me nuts. mlb.tv should satisfy my masochistic tendencies to follow the team

  95. chicken_stanley July 5th, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Pete – just jot down your username and password before you leave so you won’t be Pete222 when you return :)

  96. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Mike Curto?@CurtoWorld·1m
    Jesus Montero is 2-for-2 tonight. Going back to Tuesday, he has nine consecutive hits. 9-for-9 with a walk mixed in. The PCL record is 12.

  97. exiledintampa July 5th, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    Blue Jays-Official ?@BlueJays·3m
    Edwin Encarnacion left the game with right quadriceps soreness and is currently being examined.

    Well that says nothing.

  98. Jerkface July 5th, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    Montero’s stats in AAA this year suck, because he is in the PCL and the type of hitter he is he should be crushing the PCL. He should be hitting like .340 with a 1 OPS.

  99. bruceb July 5th, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    Watching the Yankees cling on for dear life to beat a poor Twins team 6-5 yesterday was bad enough. One run in 18 innings since then just about sums this offense up. They can’t even hit average pitchers now.

    It just confirmed what I’ve felt ever since Nova and CC went down…this team has two chances of making the playoffs this year: slim and none, and slim’s just left town.

  100. DinkyDow July 5th, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    So I watched the end of the Yankee game on DVR and saw the last play of the game. Why wasn’t the guy who was running to first base not called out for not staying in the base line for the 45 ft before getting to first? He was running on the infield grass and didn’t give Cervelli a throwing lane. I don’t know if the throw has to hit the runner or not. Joe should have challenged. He had nothing to lose.

  101. rm July 6th, 2014 at 12:02 am

    Dinky

    You have to hit the runner to get that call. Jonny Bench was an expert at drilling the runner in the back if he was running in the wrong place

  102. DinkyDow July 6th, 2014 at 12:04 am

    I thought so. Cervelli should have drilled him. Thanks. rm.

  103. exiledintampa July 6th, 2014 at 12:35 am

    Chris Cotillo?@ChrisCotillo·13m
    Source: #Yankees call up Bruce Billings. Reported as likely by @RailRidersTT.

  104. exiledintampa July 6th, 2014 at 12:49 am

    Alexis Davis hurt Ronda Rousey’s hand by smashing her face into it repeatedly.

  105. Hankflorida July 6th, 2014 at 12:56 am

    Pete, as you say, Baltimore has no SP but they are the Baltimore Bombers. As I said before when the Dodgers went to LA, their pitching took over and they played and won low scoring games. Cashman following that pattern of going from power to small ball has to put all his eggs into pitching, and he has to to do it quickly as Nuno and Whitley do not fit into this type of baseball. Phelps is proving his worth as a fifth starter and Kuroda as a third starter for a small ball team. Who will be our second and fourth starters? Pitching is the only way that the Yanks are going to do it, and they do not have the two of the horses to pull the wagon on the trail to the playoffs. Keep posting where ever you are!

  106. yankeepankee July 6th, 2014 at 2:11 am

    Folks:
    Daily News said Cubs wanted Sanchez or Ryan and Severino and Clarkin for Samardzija and Hammel. Cashman said no.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1856368
    Maybe you get the Cubs to add a shortstop prospect (Baez?). Maybe Cashy could have worked the deal more, give other names?
    Hmmm. And Yank pitching prospects have not worked out last few years. Or they become relievers due to injury or mishandling.
    Any thoughts?

    Be well.

  107. yankeepankee July 6th, 2014 at 2:19 am

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news.....tart-wins/
    And where was Cashman on the Cuban Despaigne? Padres signed him for chump change.
    He has a huge variety of pitches (El Duque style) and can hit 94.
    What’s not to like for low cost and pitching depth?
    More bad scouting and evaluation.

  108. JimK July 6th, 2014 at 2:40 am

    As per my pots of a few games ago, I no longer sit and watch the Y’s. I may have the game on for background noise, but for the most art I really pay little attention to the game.
    However, I do read the posts here regularly and if I here “transition” year, one more time I will become physically ill, unless the transition is to a non-contending status for the next few years,
    The Y’s LU is terrible and the chances of landing a solid #3 bat are slim to none, and their pitching is less than mediocre. Maybe I am suffering a bout of the “doom and gloom,” but for the life of me I do not see the Y’s next year as any better than the Y’s of this year. If you anyone is counting on prospects to be the salvation of the 2015 Y’s I have a bridge they may want to buy.
    The fact is the Y’s have not improved their LU in at least 3 years, and their signings are even worse than the Y’s signings in the 80′s when at least they added Henderson and Winfield to their LU to go along with Mattingly, I do not see any signings of the same caliber with the current Y’s, and if not for the bogus added WC, the Y’s would already be also-rans, even given the paucity of depth in the AL East, and for those advocating trading Gardner, I hope you get your wish, because he will come back as a player who will haunt them as an opposition player.
    I think the A’s trade bears me out, the A’s had prospects the Cubs wanted the Y’s did not; it’s that simple.
    Yes this is a “transition year,” except transition will be from mediocre to worse, especially given the overall lack of success of future prospects.

  109. NYY_Girl_Penny July 6th, 2014 at 2:56 am

    pete22

    you can turn autocorrect off in iphone keyboard settings.

  110. BoJo July 6th, 2014 at 3:35 am

    Have to share this with you folks.

    I have a really strong intuition about a prediction I want to announce this 6th of July.

    The prediction is that within 2 weeks, the Yankees will overpay Tampa Bay to acquire David Price. Their package will include 5-6 of Luis Severino, Shane Greene, Bryan Mitchell, Gary Sanchez or John Ryan Murphy, Zoilo Almonte, Rob Refsnyder, and perhaps Aaron Judge. Rays get to pick from list.

    For perspective, I have had these strong feelings a few times in past such as predicting the signing of Raphael Soriano, the potential of Brett Gardner and Josh Hamilton, Bryce Harper and Afrian Beltre–all before their break-put seasons…when people doubted their worth.

    Anyway, there are several factors that make me feel this is what Cashman will do, including:
    1) The Yankees pitching–once a real strength that made us all so optimistic about this year–is now in shambles for this year and the foreseeable future. The current staff (except Tanaka) can’t provide enough consistency or innings and is killing the bullpen. Sabathia and Nova are through, Whitley is at about his innings limit, and Nuno is a weak link. Pineda may not be back until September IF everything goes well.

    And yet, there are no significant pitchers available that would be enough of an upgrade to make a difference EXCEPT for Price. Price gives you innings and will allow the pen to be rested 2 out of 5 days (with Tanaka). If Kuroda is rested and pitches as of late, and Phelps continues his progess, the staff once again becomes a strength–with or wothout Pineda.

    2) The 2015 pitching staff looks potentially even worse. Sabathia may be through, Nova might not be ready until mid-season, Pineda may still regress, and Kuroda will be gone. While a crafty LHP like Lester would be great, there is a high likelihood that he will stay in Boston. And Scherzer will be over 30 and may be on downside of career.

    On the other hand, Price is 28 and would be Yankees property for 2015, and if they were smart, would be extended until 32 or so immediately upon signing. He and Tanaka would form the base for a strong staff, which might include a more experienced Phelps and perhaps even Warren or Betances…Nova and Pineda if available would be great additions but not depended upon to compete.

    3) Price and Tanaka actually give the team a chance to go far in play-offs this year and next…no other pick-up available on market does that. No other pick-up saves their bullpen.

    4) The price might seem high but Cashman will want to act quickly to lock up deal before other teams like Dodgers and perhaps Mariners jump in. I think it was Wanzies or Pete who analyzed the teams that would not be able to pick up Price’s contract, but I think a few teams would pick him up as a rental and trade him in off-season. Thus I see Mariners as a dark horse since they have flirted with acquiring Price earlier in season.

    Also, in considering the prospects…
    * Severino is very promising, and also promises to have TJ surgery while throwing that hard at such a young age.
    * Greene is running out of time in this organization
    * Mitchell may have won some awards and coverage in prospect circles, but he is no Price.
    * Sanchez is expendable–especially with how intolerant the Yankees are with attitude players
    * Almonte is not going to make it here…his weakness a RH hitter seems to sink his chances. Or his fielding…or his running…
    * Murphy is a nice player but they have plenty of depth there
    * Refsnyder looks like a very good player, but the Yankees will have to give up quality to get an ace.
    * Judge is same as Refsyder–hate to see him go, but the Yankees will have to overspend.

    Anyway, we’ll see if my gut hunches ring true soon enough.

  111. BoJo July 6th, 2014 at 3:39 am

    The acquisition of Price also excites the fan base once more and helps revenues. Randy L will love that….Hal too.

  112. BoJo July 6th, 2014 at 3:45 am

    BTW–I am glad Cash didn’t acquire Samardzija …a nice pitcher for sure…but not an ace who will eat innings and save bullpen, nor an ace that can team with Tanaka to go through several rounds of post-season.. Glad Cash saved his bullets for Price (hopefully).

  113. BoJo July 6th, 2014 at 3:49 am

    That is all…talk amongst yourselves….

  114. NYY_Girl_Penny July 6th, 2014 at 4:21 am

    Rays aren’t trading Price to the Yankees, or in our division when they can get much better prospects elsewhere outside the ALE

    I’ll have one of what your drinking.

  115. bardos July 6th, 2014 at 5:39 am

    I was wondering, so I looked. The 5 top starters at Scranton all have an era of over 4.50. In AAA. Actually between 4.50 and 6.25. Not many options.

  116. bbb51 July 6th, 2014 at 6:49 am

    I don’t know if even Price would take this team to the postseason, they need to do something with the offense. I like Sori but he has been terrible and you can’t play him full time. I would release him and bring up Almonte to play vs rhp, play Ichiro vs lhp. They should bring up Refsnyder soon.

  117. Yankeeclipper July 6th, 2014 at 6:58 am

    Yanks are making a mistake if they are going to empty the farm to find an overpriced pitcher or two. There is no way the Yanks can trade themselves into playoff contention and be a competitive playoff team. This team has too many flaws and trading away the minor league system is not going to change things. The better option is to be sellers and experiment as much as possible to see what kind of talent the team has in the minor. Refsnyder, Pirela, Wheeler, Garcia, Almonte, Burawa, Greene, Murphy and a host of others should get auditions here.

    Yanks need too begin process of trading players that can clear paths for the youth. Kuroda, Cervelli, Ichiro, Roberts – probably won’t fetch much but can help a playoff team. Soriano appears to me to be DFA candidate.

    I wouldn’t say no, but if Yanks can restock their minors, I would consider trading Gardner and Robertson (two tradeable commodities on active roster). No way would I trade Betances unless we are being offered a kings ransom.

    Yanks need to get out of big dead contracts. Let’s hope that they can negotiate settlements with CC and ARod. Perhaps Tex will see that this is a huge rebuilding effort and will waive his no-trade and Yanks can move him to a team that has a shot at a ring. Yanks need drastic surgery if we are going to be competitive before Tanaka has opportunity to exercise his opt out.

  118. Yankeeclipper July 6th, 2014 at 6:59 am

    This is not a team that is one or two players away from being a playoff team. This is a team where you trade for one or two players, you make yourself mediocre this season and the next several seasons. Time to sell not buy!

  119. bbb51 July 6th, 2014 at 7:22 am

    Rays got a top 5 prospect for James Shields, they will be looking for at least that or more for Price.

  120. GregD July 6th, 2014 at 7:57 am

    the Yanks aren’t emptying their farm system for Price……with the way pitchers get injured, that’s the riskiest move they could make and as noted above, doesn’t make them a strong contender…….they have to build from within and add pieces through free agency…….

  121. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 8:12 am

    TB would never send Price this way….

  122. Against All Odds July 6th, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Yea the Rays aren’t going to trade their pitcher in the division and the Yankees won’t sell at the deadline. They didn’t do so last yr no way they are going to do it this season.

  123. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 8:15 am

    2015 team

    C..McCann
    1ST..TEX
    2ND..Zobrist
    SS..Lowrie
    3RD..H Ramirez
    OF..Ells
    OF..Gardner
    M Cabrera

    SP..Tanaka
    SP..Shields
    SP..Scherzer
    SP..?
    SP..?

  124. ltl July 6th, 2014 at 8:21 am

    For some reason, inertia seems to be the most common feature of Yankee trade deadline moves. They also don’t trade players who are about to become FAs. Not sure why, unless it is a selling point to players–we won’t trade you mid-season, so no disruption in your family life=good reason to come to Yankees?

  125. ltl July 6th, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Bad decision by Cervelli last night, but he is still playing better than others in this lineup. Appears to be more “in” the game than the rest. He made a perfect throw to second to nail a runner attempting to steal (or was that the night before?). Even with the bad throw, his overall play makes he or one of the kids expendable–but probably not till the off season.

  126. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 8:28 am

    Tulo making noise about wanting to play for a contender..

  127. Against All Odds July 6th, 2014 at 8:29 am

    It has more to do with not appearing to wave the flag.

  128. GregD July 6th, 2014 at 8:30 am

    if Cervelli makes a good throw on that ball, they get a double play….it just got away from him…

  129. GregD July 6th, 2014 at 8:33 am

    the Yanks don’t have much to sell even if they were selling….unless you assume that they are not going to re-sign Robertson which I believe they will….trading Gardner is an option but unless he brings back a young starting outfielder……why would you do it?

  130. ac1 July 6th, 2014 at 8:34 am

    Line of night to john lackey.

    Whining about nelson cruz and how people conveniently forget about his steroid use….
    All of this with a straight face while playing beside David ortiz every night and watching him help the sox win titles. Typical Red Sox hypocrisy…

  131. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Good morning.

    “My kingdom for a bat”

    A middle of the lineup bat. Here are some players on teams going nowhere that currently have double digit home runs. Many of these would not be available.
    Padres- Smith
    Rockies-Morneau, Tulowitski, Blackmon
    Cubs-Castro, Rizzo
    DBacks-Gldschmidt, Montero
    Astros- Springer, Dominguez

    Smith or Morneau?

  132. ac1 July 6th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Would love to get tulo but problem is we need pitching….offense sucks but pitching is non existent. We actually need two starters now….

  133. ltl July 6th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    It has more to do with not appearing to wave the flag.

    “Appearing” to whom? Most knowledgeable fans have already moved on to alternate summer activities. I can’t imagine they are so delusional that they believe the fan base still buys into the mantra of “playing to the back of their bb cards.”

    I’ve seen a lot of Yankee teams (good and bad), but few that were quite so deadly boring. Bring up the kids and let us revel in the exuberance of their successes with the hope their failures might be lessons for the future. The mystery of what those AAA and AA guys can do should be alluring enough to sell some more shirts!

  134. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 8:44 am

    Judge continues to do something every game in tampa another two rbis last night better prospect and more value than AAAA lifer Almonte and Dustin Fowler still cannot seem to hit above .300 even yet to say nothing of his small stature Fowler has no plus tools and was drafted in the 18th round last year once again bigdan puts his money on the wrong horse

  135. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    lol infield defense does not matter or impact the outcome of the game lol

  136. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Joeman,

    They are never spending that much money. My expectation is caution on free agency since it didn’t work so great this year. I hope I’m wrong as there are more questions than answers.

  137. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    looking forward to “throw-in” no value to a deal Severino in the futures game in about a week from now

  138. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Joeman-

    Troy Tulowitzki grew up watching, studying and idolizing Derek Jeter. When he finally got a chance to meet the Yankees’ captain, it played out just like he hoped.

    “So many people get to meet, say, their idol, and it’s not a good experience. [Jeter] was the exact opposite,” Tulowitzki said. “It was great in every aspect. [He's] someone you can ask questions, [he's] responsible, on time to his events. A lot of things stood out.”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....d=70314964

    Here’s his contract:

    11:$5.5M, 12:$8.25M, 13:$10M, 14:$16M, 15-19:$20M annually, 20:$14M, 21:$15M club option ($4M buyout)
    salaries for 2020 and 2021 may increase by $6M annually based on MVP votes, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers or All-Star selections
    award bonuses, including $25,000 each for Gold Glove, All Star selection
    $2M assignment bonus if traded
    may be traded only once during contract

    Go get him Cashman!

  139. bbb51 July 6th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Cervelli was the only one in the lineup with more than one hit and drove in the only run, that was the problem.

    They can score only 1 run against a 30 year old rookie?

  140. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 8:50 am

    remember when bigdan predicts Sabathia back by the all star break to go with the opposite

  141. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    According to MILB, Fowler is 6′ and weighed 185 lbs. Not so small. I’ve never seen him play, but he is young in A ball.

  142. bbb51 July 6th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    The Cervelli throw was kind of like a mercy killing anyway…

  143. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    The Cervelli throw was kind of like a mercy killing anyway…
    ———–
    Perfect description. The Twins were going to win this game, whether it was by the next batter, the next inning…………..

  144. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    YT,

    I doubt it is possible but Tulu would change my perception of the team. They do need to add a big bat to go along with starters. Anyone is available for someone like that.

    Lester says he is still willing to talk extension. He wants to stay in Boston. They need him. Scherzer is awfully expensive and, while good, is not worth $150M plus.

  145. RhapsodyInBlue July 6th, 2014 at 8:57 am

    If Tulo wants to play for a contender that eliminates us.

  146. Against All Odds July 6th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    ltl July 6th, 2014 at 8:42 am

    ———-

    Of.course fans realize a number of players won’t play to the back of their cards. The Yankees don’t bank on young players unfortunately and there are few options down there that would be the fans excited. If they had the 05 version of Cano down there then sure I can see the excitement.

  147. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Everyone pining for positive change.

    It’s clear to me that Cashman over values his prospects.

    Won’t get anywhere that way.

    He might just be in love w a mirage.

    But then again we all know what a great talent evaluator he is.

    ;)

  148. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:05 am

    OK. So at least let’s see some shuffling of the chairs.

    Bye, bye Soriano. Adios Johnson.

    Hello Almonte/Garcia. Greetings Pirela.

    Move over Chase say hi to Shane.

    Refs. You wait in the wings.

    :)

  149. RhapsodyInBlue July 6th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    These are desperate times, like when they promoted Melky from AA ball. Get rid of some of this dead weight and bring up the kids.

  150. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:09 am

    We need a Dave Dombrowski type managing the Yankees.

    Someone who knows how to wheel and deal and put together a roster.

  151. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:10 am

    Gonna happen soon RIB.

    It’s one fishing trip away.

    ;)

  152. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Mac-

    This team has so many holes, too many aged players an injury away from spending significant time on the DL,and are stuck with too many full no trade contracts, that it will be difficult to improve this team this year, enough for them to make a playoff appearance and advance to the WS. I know you agree on this.

    I would like them to give players like Pirela, Almonte, Murphy, Refsnyder , Roller, playing time.

    And listen on interest on Kuroda, Gardner, and even DRob, to see if they can get a young bat in return. They can always resign DRob after this season.

    Time to dump Soriano, Johnson, Ryan, and see what they could get for Cervelli, and Roberts, the new(old) hitting star!

  153. RhapsodyInBlue July 6th, 2014 at 9:12 am

    I hope you’re right MTU.

  154. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    YT-

    I wonder what the Tigers would give us for D-Rob ?

    They get a closer like him and it maybe puts them over the top.

    ;)

  155. Poetkiosk July 6th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    This season is making me really cynical about the Yankees and this team of washed up vets. They all seem happy as clams to be losing the summer away and why wouldn’t they? Most of them are millionaires many times over and are probably shocked someone actually paid for their services.

    I don’t see a plan in place. It looks like we will be mediocre for at least a few years to come.

  156. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:14 am

    RIB-

    Dead certainty that change is coming.

    Only the who and the when in question.

    ;)

  157. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    MTU

    The Tigers have Joe Nathan, high ERA. Give me Ian Kinsler.

  158. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:19 am

    If Amaro the Bizzaro was smart (he isn’t) he would be selling w both hands.

    The Phillies are going nowhere fast and their Farm is barren.

    We have some nice pieces we could offer them to start their inevitable rebuild.

    And they have some of what we want.

    ;)

  159. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Stop with this garbage getting rid of the farm for washed up has been we need to work on keeping the home grown talent. Have patiencewith Nuno Phelps Whittley .The yankees are not going anywhere.Its time go dump Old ass Koroda Soriano am Carlos an see what we can get in return.Bring up the farm an start prepareing for next year. Cashman is dumb he should have done that last year no he went an got Soriano big mistake.Get rid of cashman

  160. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:22 am

    YT-

    Unfortunately, we both know the Yankees do not operate that way.

    D-Rob is staying and so is Dellin.

    So, you’re gettin’ nothing because you think other Teams are going to give you their good players for your garbage.

    ;)

  161. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:24 am

    The Yankees do not develop whole Teams.

    They don’t operate like small market ones.

    So forget that nonsense.

    They aren’t nearly smart enough for that at the moment.

    The days of Stick Michael are long gone.

  162. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:25 am

    MTU

    I was looking over the Yankee high priced contract list. Of the current regulars, making 5M/ year or more, only Ichiro, Gardner, Kuroda, Robertson and Jeter, do not have no trade protection.
    Gardner gets an assignment bonus of 1M if traded.

  163. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Know when to hold ‘em.

    Know when to fold ‘em.

    Know when to walk away.

    Know when to run.

    Think the current brass does ?

    Time for change. This crew isn’t cutting it.

    That means you too Hal. You spend but you don’t have a clear vision that doesn’t have a $ in it.

    ;)

  164. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Good morning all —-

    Our Punch and Judy offense struck again. Sorta painful to watch.

    3 1/2 games back, the Yankees are NOT going to start selling off players.

  165. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    YT-

    What I hope happens at this point is:

    1) we chop out some of the deadwood and replace it w MiLB

    2) We acquire a good left handed pitcher

    3) We acquire a good IF’er w a bat or maybe a solid COF’er

    Chances of that happening ?

    No idea.

    :)

  166. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:31 am

    The only Phillies player I’d have interest in would be their lefty Ace…….not sore elbow Lee, but their other high priced lefty, Cole Hamels. If they threw in Dominic Brown, who has sunk to new lows, I’d be interested.

  167. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:32 am

    YT-

    Same here.

    So. What are we waiting for ?

    :)

  168. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Severino, Judge, Refs and Sanchez should only be moved for a high end player. I fear one or more moved for Kennedy or delaRosa.

    This team needs two starters now and at least one good bat to compete with the O’s. That can’t happen. More lipstick will be added I suspect, and we will be unhappy with the transaction.

  169. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Mac-

    Is Hamels high end enough ?

  170. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Price ?

  171. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Sanchez or Murphy, Betances or Severino, Phelps, Judge or Refsnyder for Price.

    Covers a whole lot of needs for Rays.

    They need a good young Catcher, a closer, a backend starter, and a strong near ML-ready IF prospect.

    That is a good haul.

    Fills a lot of their needs.

    :)

  172. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Cashman screwd the farm by getting rid Ian Kennedy,AustinJackson,Montero.Dont tell me that montero wasnt bad Trade he was hiiting the other way in yankee stadium Could had him dh some catching an first do the Ys have anyone in the farm that can play first because we all no Texiera no lou Gehrig.Tex is alwYs on the verge of innury boy Kevin Long Really Screwd his swing. When Tex first came here what a nice smooth swing he now swings upper cut .

  173. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 9:41 am

    We are not waiting. They tried with the Cubs. Since we don’t have the one big prospect, teams will want three of our best like the Cubs wanted.

    They cannot give up the best they have to build a non-competitive team by adding Danks and his 88 mph fastball. We have that.

    Bring up the young and see what we have. Refs, Pirela, Almonte and Greene. I think we would be no worse and maybe better. Perhaps, we might find a player for next year.

    Soriano is beginning to irritate me by blaming not playing. Perhaps, he should be told to look at himself for the reason he isn’t playing. How can a team play a guy with the worst ABs one could ever see?

  174. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Ian Kennedy is ordinary.

    Austin Jackson is hitting .246 w zero power.

    Montero brought us back a high end arm.

    So. What exactly did we lose out on thus far.

  175. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    MTU

    Here’s a plan:

    Dump Soriano, Johnson, Ryan. If there are offers for them, great. But we both know the Yankees will be eating their contracts. Interest in Cervelli, new batting star Roberts and legend Ichiro? If so, goodbye.

    Hello Almonte and Pirela RF
    Refsnyder 2B
    Solarte utility
    Murphy C, Sanchez soon after

    Trade for Cole Hammels, the Yankees taking on the entire salary

    Listen on offers for Gardner, especially if a young stud major league or major league ready SS is
    available

    Some off the cuff quick suggestions.

    Thoughts?

  176. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    I say first clear house.Get rid cashman.Then Girardi an his timid coaching an then get rid thompson an long The last thing let all those old ass millionair has beens go.

  177. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:45 am

    YT-

    Now you are thinking like a GM except GGBG isn’t going anywhere.

    But we both know the Yankees will not do most/any of that.

    :(

  178. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:43 am

    Listen on offers for Gardner, especially if a young stud major league or major league ready SS is
    available
    ——————————————–
    like this a lot

  179. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    “like this a lot”

    Least likely of the possibilities.

    Yankees love GGBG.

  180. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    If Encarnacion is out a long while, I think that kills the Jays. It could even remove them as big buyers.

    Price has already indicated he doesn’t ‘t like the Yankee way. He may well leave after 2015 if we got him(by divine intervention). Can we give up our top minor league hopes when adding him still leaves the team far short?

    I think I am moving toward hold onto our prospects since it would take a clean out to add anyone top flight and a waste to add anyone else.

  181. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Not a good day down on the farm, but Aaron Judge had a double and two RBI.

    Thru 15 games in Tampa he’s hitting .286, 3 HR, 14 RBI. OBP .470, SLG .592

  182. Madrugador July 6th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Having a hard time staying positive this year. Like others, there seem to be too many holes to fill to make this team playoff viable. Gonna be even harder to stay positive if they package some of the youngsters for some mediocre has-been.

  183. mick July 6th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    MTU

    You cannot decimate the farm for price, a 1/1/2 year rental.

  184. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Reds wouldn’t even move Bailey for GGBG.

    They gambled on Hamilton instead. Appears they got lucky w his bat. He didn’t show much beforehand.

    They aren’t getting a young stud IF for him, and that is IF they would even consider it.

    Which I doubt they would.

  185. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Austin jackson lead off an youger than Ichiro Montero was still young enough to groom then wouldnt have spend 80 mil on mcann what high end starter did we get in return If we kept kennedy we wouldnt have to get old ass Korado then you forgot the ys screewd jojoba on hughes arm up by turning into relievers then starters then shut them down dureing the year both of fhem ended up with arm trouble

  186. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    if cole hamels is available, i want him.

    but again,we dont have the chips.

    they will want an mlb ready player plus a top prospect at least. otherwise it makes no sense for them to get rid of him.

    he’s not a salary dump, he’s worth what he’s getting paid, he’s a WS hero and he sells tickets. and if they let him go, they have to replace him, so there’s no gain to them in just selling off his contract.

    they have to retool.

  187. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Andrew-

    To the best of my knowledge, Teixeira, himself, after working with Long in the offseason, trying to go the opposite way, gave it up, soon after the start of the season( around three years ago).

    He wasn’t interested in the declining BA. He felt he had more value hitting 30 homers and driving in 100 runs, and of course, playing 81 games in YS, batting mostly from the left side, was the clincher, to not change.

    I don’t agree, because when the shift gives you a huge hole, there is value in going the other way to extend an inning, keep the opposing team honest.

  188. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 9:53 am

    YT,

    Hamels would not be a salary dump. They don’t do that in Philadelphia. Lee, yes. Hamels, no.

    Lee is pitching in the FSL today. Feinsand says we have to get him. The odds of TJS are too high to pick up another $50M obligation.

  189. mick July 6th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    I told you guys this was a 2 year deal last OS.
    Next year we will make the same splash with 2-3 good FA pickups.
    Not giving up on what we got…McCann. Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka…these were the best guys out there.

  190. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 9:54 am

    garnder’s value is higher now than it was in ST. also some teams (seattle) are more desperate for OF help than they were in ST.

  191. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Yes you can Mick because you make sure you sign him for the longterm after he gets a taste.

    It’s only about money.

    We have it.

    He’ll stay a Yankee. Who is gonna pay him more ?

    And it isn’t decimating anything IMO.

    Those guys haven’t proved squat and most are fungible IMO.

    If we can’t get him then let’s get Hamels.

  192. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    I’m all for getting along without some combination of Soriano, Ichiro, Johnson, Roberts and Cervelli and giving a shot to some combination of Pirela, Almonte, Murphy and Roller.

    Letting Refsnyder finish in Scranton would be my plan. At least until I see how those guys I listed and Wheeler perform. there’s no risk in that considering the productivity we’re getting from the older generation.

  193. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 9:56 am

    MTU,

    Hamels is high end. I would trade one of our top guys but not three like the Cubs wanted. They can pick any one guy and the add a couple of B level guys.

  194. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Was Tex. Life time average when he came to the yankees an what did he average homerun per year before Kevin got his paws on him.

  195. mick July 6th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Yes you can Mick because you make sure you sign him for the longterm after he gets a taste.
    ================
    MTU

    You keep saying this with a certainty but you know how players are.

  196. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Y’s-

    We have more than enough to get Hamels if we are flexible in our thinking.

    He has a huge contract and we would be giving the Phils considerable relief.

  197. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    And if we can’t get Price or Hamels we should look at Miley or Detwiler.

    We need a good lefty.

    Next year we go after Lester if hits the open market.

    ;)

  198. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Cole Hamels contract:

    13:$19.5M, 14:$22.5M, 15:$22.5M, 16:$22.5M, 17:$22.5M, 18:$22.5M, 19:$20M club option ($6M buyout)
    2019 option guaranteed at $24M if Hamels 1) has 400 IP in 2017-18, including 200 IP in 2018, and 2) is not on the disabled list with a shoulder or elbow injury at the end of the 2018 season
    limited no-trade protection

    Same idiot drew up the injury clause, limiting the vesting option if only the arm was affected, as did CC Sabathia’s!

  199. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    Mick-

    OK. I withdraw certainty and replace it w very high probability.

    Fair enough ?

    :)

  200. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    two things for me ..this team is a complete mess & we have seen the last of CC on the mound

  201. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:00 am

    Playing here is in itself a variable.
    Certain guys can’t do it, esp pitchers.
    I can name a few but you know who they are..

    You have your Ace, now all you need is a #2, Lester comes to mind.
    He would fit in well here.

  202. austinmac July 6th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Wheeler is a stop gap.

    Not to compete with the world’s foremost I told you so poster, but I did recommend Kazmir over the winter. Wouldn’t he look good about now. We never considered him.

  203. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    MTU

    I wouldn’t give up any of our top prospects for any of these guys when we can get them for free next year.
    If you go for them this year you are going to get fleeced.

  204. Against All Odds July 6th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Next year we will make the same splash with 2-3 good FA pickups.

    ———————

    Not with A-rod coming back next yr.

  205. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:02 am

    right now they have to build around Gardner,Ells,McCann,Tex,Tanaka & the two BP guys…blow the rest of the crap up

  206. andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Yankee fans forgot how they screwed up hughes an jojoba starter reliever back an forth Well they never learned.They are doing the same with Phelps an Nuno Both were Starters then Made relevers Then Starters they have to let them stay starters an let them go pass the 6th inning an stp babying them girardi he coaches scared

  207. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    Mick-

    I say we get 2.

    Hamels or Price now and Lester in the OS if he gets there.

    I do not care about Hal’s billions.

    Tanaka
    Hamels/Price
    Lester
    Pineda/Nova
    Phelps

    Wow. Best Ro in baseball.

    :shock:

  208. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    ARod will have been out of BB for so long I don’t expect much from him…

  209. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:04 am

    Not giving up on what we got…McCann. Ellsbury, Beltran, Tanaka…these were the best guys out there.
    ——–
    Mick-
    Yes, they were the best guys, along with Cano and Choo, out there. However, they all have full no trade protection, so the Yankees have them for better or worse.

  210. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    RS will not let Lester leave

  211. GregD July 6th, 2014 at 10:05 am

    Next year, we will have to sign an OF and a shortstop and two starting pitchers……

  212. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Tex has played the equivalent of 4.5 seasons as a Yankee using roughly 150 games/season.

    His avg with the Yanks is .258 with 34 HR, 106 RBI, .852 OPS

    In the three previous seasons to signing with NY he was .297 w/ 32 HR, 112 RBI, .937 OPS

    The only difference is the huge drop in batting average.

  213. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:06 am

    “RS will not let Lester leave”

    Maybe. Maybe not.

    They’ve let other stars slip thru their fingers in the past.

    They aren’t the brightest bunch.

    :)

  214. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    GregD July 6th, 2014 at 10:05 am
    Next year, we will have to sign an OF and a shortstop and two starting pitchers……
    ————————————————————-
    they need a whole new IF

  215. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Baby Bomber Recap

    http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....ach-nuding

    86-

    Pirela, Solarte, and Sanchez also had good days

  216. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    sorry, you’re not giving the phillies any relief taking hamels. first off, he’s worth what he’s getting paid, secondly, he sells tickets, thirdly philly can afford it and will have to go pay another top flight pitcher to take his place.

    also he’s young enough that they could rebuild the team around him.

    if anyone thinks they’re getting hamels for one player, think again.

  217. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Greg-

    Why wait till next year to do all your shopping ?

    The store is open now.

    Let’s get started early. Make a start on it.

    Less to do later.

    :)

  218. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Y’s-

    Who said 1 player ?

    I’m ready to deal for him w several plus money.

    You must be thinking of someone else ?

    ;)

  219. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    YT

    Who doesn’t have a NTC these days?
    They are not committing to a Hamels either who has a long humongous contract, sort of like CC’s.
    These long term contracts esp for pitchers have to be discussed amongst owners.

  220. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:10 am

    Lefties:

    Price
    Hamels
    Miley
    Lee
    Detwiler

    Let’s get 1

  221. joeman July 6th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    I would trade Gardner to the Cubs for one of their young IFers

  222. Against All Odds July 6th, 2014 at 10:12 am

    andrewmelillo July 6th, 2014 at 9:52 am

    —————-

    Always goes back to the farm.

  223. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    86-

    Is there any available info out there on Tex batting from the left side with RISP, over the last three years when his BA was falling, mainly due to his batting approach vs the shift?

    Was he more clutch as a .300 hitter?

  224. Your Name Here July 6th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    July 6, 2014 at 10:06 am

    Tex has played the equivalent of 4.5 seasons as a Yankee using roughly 150 games/season.

    His avg with the Yanks is .258 with 34 HR, 106 RBI, .852 OPS

    In the three previous seasons to signing with NY he was .297 w/ 32 HR, 112 RBI, .937 OPS

    The only difference is the huge drop in batting average.

    ———

    Not bad… but we’ve paid him for 5.5 years for 4.5 yrs worth of production.

  225. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    CC is likely gone for a while.

    Maybe forever.

    We don’t have a single quality lefty at the ML level or on the horizon.

    I’d say we’d better get one.

    There might be several good ones available right now.

    Lester may or may not make it to FA.

    One bird in the hand is better than ……..

    CC needs to be replaced.

    Tanaka needs a left-handed buddy he can Tweet to.

    :)

  226. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:14 am

    yes mtu, austinmac said one player above in response to your post.

    believe me, philly doesnt want to trade hamels but they have to consider trading any asset to bring in young players, so he’s the one people are looking at. but it’s going to have to be prospect rich to get him. money doesnt enter into it, whoever takes him will pay every dollar of the contract w/o any money from philly.

  227. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    MTU

    They will get a quality starter for next year like a Scherzer, Masterson, Lester without paying a kings ransom now.
    There are leftys down under with Clarkin and Banuelos.
    Don’t be so impatient.

  228. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Y’s-

    That’s fine by me.

    I’ll take him.

    ;)

  229. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    YT —-

    That’s too much homework for a Sunday!

    However his RH/LH splits have been awful in recent years with very low numbers batting LH.that has changed this year with a strong OPS (.836) from the left side, but he isn’t hitting as well RH (.714)…. go figure.

    Anyone who drives in 100+ every full season is clutch enough for me.

  230. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:19 am

    hamels is better than sheilds, and the same age as when james got traded.

    tampa got wil myers, jake odorrizzi and 2 more minor league prospects.

    that’s what philly will be looking for for cole.

  231. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Oh, Ill totally still take hamels, he’s pretty much exactly what we need.

    a lefty who can pitch in a tiny park
    a proven postseason performer (7-4, 3.09, world series MVP)
    someone who can handle a nutso fan base.

  232. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    but we just dont have the chips, i dont think.

  233. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    From RAB’s

    “According to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Heyman, the Yankees and Cubs exchanged proposals for both Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel before the two were traded to the Athletics. It sounds like they were discussing them in separate deals, not one big trade. Heyman says the Yankees finished second in the bidding for Samardzija and lost out because they didn’t want to give up Dellin Betances and simply don’t have a prospect as good as Addison Russell.”

  234. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Did someone actually say they could bring back AJ Burnett?
    Maybe I was hearing things..

  235. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Mick-

    No guarantees on Lester as joeman pointed out.

    We need that lefty now more than ever w CC likely out.

    Nuno is going to cut it, or Huff.

    Banuelos still has a long ways to go.

    He hasn’t fulfilled his promise.

    I’m doubtful he will anymore.

    Clarkin is miles away.

    Nothing impatient about filling an obvious need when the opportunity presents itself.

    These Farm guys are just that. Farm guys.

    They’ve proven nothing and most will bust out unless their value is properly harvested.

    The Yankees are not a development Team. They are a win now Team.

    I think serious change is needed Mick.

    Staying the course does not seem to be the answer to me any longer.

    If it is to you that’s fine.

    We’ll just have to see how it plays out I guess.

    :)

  236. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Shane Greene has been very good lately… last two starts were scoreless. He or huff should replace Whitely next time thru.

    If you wanna talk minor league lefties, don’t leave out Miguel Sulbaran. The 20-year-old has allowed just two earned runs in his last 33 innings (6 starts). He doesn’t overpower, but he gets a lot of ground outs.

  237. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    russel was a top 10 prospect. myers was a top 5 prospect. these are the kinds of guys you need to trade for hamels or price.

  238. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:28 am

    MTU

    Then you are setting yourself up to get fleeced.
    They aren’t going that route.
    They wouldn’t include Betances for Samarjda.
    They are conservative and are trying to develop a farm, which without, all the FA’s in the world won’t help.
    Just look at our core over the past 20 years.

  239. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Hal and Cash are huggers.
    Hal wants to be the A’s.
    He should go get Billy Beane but thinks he has the answers so why pay him .

  240. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    hal spent about the same money for tanaka than the A’s spend in total salary in 2 seasons.

  241. J. Alfred Prufrock July 6th, 2014 at 10:34 am

    The Yankees are neither a “win now” team nor a good develoPment team, but with a few bright lights on the horizon, there is hope to become the latter. There are some talents in the system that could start helping this team as soon as 2016. Getting rid of those few to chase a false October promise is not
    The way. No one wants Jeter to go out right more than I do, but burning this team’s future just do it can run to stand still again isn’t going to deliver the goods any way. Put into motion things that are meant to help long range and the present push just might receive a boost. That’s the only way I would consider going.

  242. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    sobering Yanks not mentioned probably don’t have the goods to compete for Price

    “The consensus around baseball this season has been that the Rays are extremely reluctant to trade ace David Price within the AL East. That may still be true, but Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports hears that they’re still at least open to the idea of moving Price within the division.

    An intra-division deal might call for a premium price, but today’s report is still good news for the Blue Jays, who would no doubt love to bring Price north of the border. The Blue Jays can’t bank on Mark Buehrle duplicating his strong first half and they’ve fallen out of first place. If Toronto is willing to part with two of their top three prospects – Aaron Sanchez, Daniel Norris, and Dalton Pompey – they could come away with the most alluring pitcher on the trade market.

    In addition to the Blue Jays, Morosi cites the Mariners, Dodgers, and Cardinals as possible landing spots for Price. It’s hard to see Seattle landing Price without parting with Taijuan Walker, but they might be aggressive enough to move the 21-year-old to get Price. The Dodgers, of course, are always aggressive and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports surmised yesterday that they could be extra bullish on Price because of their TV situation.”

  243. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:36 am

    The Yanks bought and bought thru the 80′s and what did get them?
    Yankee fans have no patience, it’s in he DNA’s.
    We are sore losers.
    We had to wait for this dynasty and with Jeter gone, it’s over for now and will take a while to rebuild hopefully not what we went thru in the 65-75 or 80-94 eras.
    We didn’t have the wealth of talent Cash is trying to build now, back then either so it shouldn’t take as long.
    FA’s are the real missing pieces but you’ve got to build from the bottom up.

  244. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    Mick-

    When you get a really good player back in a trade you aren’t getting “fleeced”.

    If you have to pay a little more to get someone really good IMO you do so.

    And as far as Hal being that clever ?

    I really doubt that one.

    His only answer is to consult his spreadsheet.

    If he really knew what he was doing he would have purged his entire staff long ago and told Levine to get a haircut.

    You give him way too much credit Mick IMO.

    Personally, I doubt he has a clue other than signing some checks.

    ;)

  245. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:37 am

    86-

    In 2009 Tex at home hit .310, with OPS 1.014
    2011 thru 2013 he hit at home ..233 with OPS .816. He was injured last year.

    It’s probably just me, but I don’t get excited when the game is on the line and Tex comes to bat from the left side, with RISP. Of course, these days, no one on the team can be counted on to get that key hit. :(

  246. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:38 am

    if you were going to put together the ‘proper’ team to take derek jeter to the promised land in his last season, you wouldnt have derek jeter starting, sorry. everybody has to pull their own weight.

  247. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:39 am

    Back later.

    Time to walk the mopsters.

  248. 86w183 July 6th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    gonna get to some other duties…. let’s score three!

    have a day

  249. SweetSpot July 6th, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Derek Jeter is more than pulling his own weight and then some. If one wanted to list ten reason why the Yankees are not having a good year; Derek Jeter wouldn’t be on that list.

  250. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:42 am

    Ys

    If the team wants salary relief, then maybe the Yankees can make a deal for Hamels without giving up Betances, Severino, Sanchez, Robertson , etc. but then again they might have to take Paplebon also!

  251. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    When you get a really good player back in a trade you aren’t getting “fleeced”.
    ======================================
    Who is this right player tho MTU?
    One particular guy that’s going to make the difference?
    You are willing to give up anybody for this guy?
    I assume you mean Price.
    You have said you would give up Betances.
    That won’t be enough.
    Sanchez, Severino,Judge….all of them?
    He’s good for 1 1/2 years and could bolt.
    You cannot guarantee he will stay.

  252. J. Alfred Prufrock July 6th, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Missing – thanks for posting that. Kershaw and Price on the same side – should be illegal!

  253. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 10:44 am

    looks as if Gary Sanchez has not died in AA as previously reported and determined by bigdan in fact Sanchez appears as if he will have a better overall season that Zoilo Almonte in 2012 AA a year bigdan declared passes the AA rubicon test premature evaluations yet again

    from RAB on Sanchez:

    C Gary Sanchez: 3-4, 1 2B, 1 K — 14-for-37 (.378) with three doubles and a homer in his last ten games

  254. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    Mick-

    Then consider a stud like Hamels.

    He is signed for even more years and would be a great compliment to Tanaka and a decent replacement for CC.

    Let’s just see what happens.

    Later.

  255. yankinvegas July 6th, 2014 at 10:45 am

    It is amazing that the same writers who rip us for the bad contracts with Alex, Tex and CC on one hand, rip us for not signing Cano on the other hand and advocate acquiring Cliff Lee.
    I can see it now. Lee throws a five hitter in his first Yankee start and his elbow goes rendering him useless thereafter and the same writers who pushed for his acquisition now say, same old Yankees.
    Cash made the right choice in not giving up Betances for Samardzija. When Oakland gets eliminated early again because they no zero premiere offensive players, only role guys and zero dominant starters other than Gray, we will again see what a genius Beane is.
    The Yankees will be best served by signing Lester, paring him with Tanaka at the top of the rotation. The patience they are showing with Pineda will be rewarded, giving the team 3 top of the line starters. All of whom are better than Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel by a wide margin.
    They have developed Betances and Warren as first rate relievers and Phelps as a back end starter.
    The team has more high end bats in the system at various levels of development than most teams do.
    Don’t do anything dumb and shortsighted now and we will reap huge benefits in the very near future. Likely beginning in 2015.

  256. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    again just another typical night for aaron judge going 1 for 3 (.333 avg approx. in line with his overall hitting) plus another walk and two more rbi plus he plays defense too bad guys like Judge and Severino have no trade value and are just mere “throw-ins” to deals

    from RAB:

    RF Aaron Judge: 1-3, 1 R, 2 RBI, 1 BB — threw a runner out at first as part of a double play

  257. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    im pretty impressed by jeter this year. he’s been really healthy, which i did not expect, and he’s played alot more than I expected out of necesity, and, while he’s often looked like a 40 year old player, he’s been the best option at SS every game.
    he’s been hitting better of late. the negative surprise has been his defense, alot of mental errors and he has slowed getting rid of the ball alot (needs time to ‘load up’)

    all in all pretty imrpessive considering everything.

  258. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Then consider a stud like Hamels.
    =============
    MTU

    They will want a boatload of prospects.
    I’d rather just give up the money.

  259. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:48 am

    “It is amazing that the same writers who rip us for the bad contracts with Alex, Tex and CC on one hand, rip us for not signing Cano on the other hand and advocate acquiring Cliff Lee.”
    =======================================
    that’s a somewhat odd combination. im not sure alot of people fit it.

  260. blake July 6th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    “According to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Heyman, the Yankees and Cubs exchanged proposals for both Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel before the two were traded to the Athletics. It sounds like they were discussing them in separate deals, not one big trade. Heyman says the Yankees finished second in the bidding for Samardzija and lost out because they didn’t want to give up Dellin Betances and simply don’t have a prospect as good as Addison Russell.l”

    Yup….they don’t have a prospect like Russell and I don’t blame them for wanting to keep Betances……I’m afraid anybody good that Cashman wants is going to require Betances unfortunately…….

  261. Missing Cano July 6th, 2014 at 10:50 am

    boy it would be nice to see Fowler at least get above .300 OBP first development prospect in every sense of the word right now

  262. J. Alfred Prufrock July 6th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Betances’ numbers vs left-handed hitters are right there with Price’s for the most part. He dominates them and that’s nothing new. LHB are slugging .190 vs Betances and have mustered a .177 wOBA lmao. Long range this is a much better idea than parting with Dellin himself PLUS guys like Judge, Sanchez and Severino to acquire David Price. If only the Yankees could assess their current situation honestly, they could plant seeds that could produce a real harvest for the coming seasons.

  263. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:51 am

    Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 10:42 am
    Ys

    If the team wants salary relief, then maybe the Yankees can make a deal for Hamels without giving up Betances, Severino, Sanchez, Robertson , etc. but then again they might have to take Paplebon also!
    =========================
    no, i said philly doesnt need salary relief. they have huge revenues and need stars and hamels is one of their biggest stars and the only one young enough to be around through a rebuild. the only reason they have to trade him is to restock with younger players.

  264. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:53 am

    If they retain DRob and if they continue to stockpile relievers they can think about trying Betances as a starter next year.
    He can’t go on as a 2 inning man much longer and maybe this is their way of stretching him out and rebuilding him back as a starter.
    They aren’t going to tell anybody if it is.

  265. SweetSpot July 6th, 2014 at 10:54 am

    It’s an interesting philosophical question the Yankees are faced with internally. What do we do or not do short term? The Yankees will of course not be sellers, it’s not in their DNA to do so. But can they realistically expect to win the division? And with the wild cards not likely to come from the AL east is it realistic for them to make the playoffs? Perhaps, things can change, other teams can be hit with injuries, key starters go down, etc. They will need to answer those questions. Then they can make a judgment whether or not they want to deal the few highly rated prospects they have for a shot at the post-season in 2014. Although I am eternally optimistic as a fan, at the all-star break, it seems as if a pitcher or too will not be enough. I don’t know where the needed hitting will come from unless the middle of the order guys and some others turn it around. It may be the Yankees decide to just give it their best without giving away the farm and if they don’t go far this season so be it. Then of course, if they decide to go for it all in, there is the obvious question; do the Yankees have enough talent to make a deal that has impact. I’m not sure they do unless you’re talking about packaging players like Betances, Gardner etc., and even so, I don’t know who is out there that would justify that kind of move. Should be interesting to see how July plays out.

  266. mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Would you trade away this season for a shot at rebuilding this team back into a dynasty again?
    Isn’t that the question?

    I’m sure a lot of Yankee fans would get over missing the post season this year if it meant that tradeoff.

  267. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 10:58 am

    betances’s value is not as high as if he were a starter. he’s a prospective closer and some may see him as a prospective starter (kinda like chapman when he came ). but as either he is still a ‘prospect’ because he hasnt done either successfully at this level.

    and he’s got some ‘failed starter’ rep still tagged to him a bit.

    he’s got a ton of value especially to a contender, but just a touch less than if he were better defined or established.

  268. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    cashman was in on Samardza but said no to trading betances.

    that should calm everybody here down a bit. some said he wasn’t doing anything (based on no press reports) and others were worried he’d give up betances and others.

    so everybody’s happy today, right? :)

  269. SweetSpot July 6th, 2014 at 11:06 am

    mick July 6th, 2014 at 10:56 am
    Would you trade away this season for a shot at rebuilding this team back into a dynasty again?
    Isn’t that the question? I’m sure a lot of Yankee fans would get over missing the post season this year if it meant that tradeoff.
    __________________________

    I agree but that’s the fans. I’m interested what the Yankees think about these choices internally. It’s a pretty big decision. The farm isn’t that great, we all know that (despite the fact that many here think more highly of some Yankee prospects than the rest of the baseball world does). If you deal away the few chips we have; what happens next year? Can we go all in to win this year if it means paying a heavy price to do so. And if you fail . . . . you’ve lost a lot

  270. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:08 am

    cliff lee and carlos beltran.

    good idea 3 years ago. now…..ehhhh….

  271. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:09 am

    I’m just curious. It’s a valuation question.

    This is purely hypothetical of course.

    If the Cubs would trade you Castro for Betances + would you do that ?

  272. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    I’m interested what the Yankees think about these choices internally.
    =======================
    I think it’s obvious. They seldom pull the trigger on these high end trades.
    Cash always draws the line as they always ask for our best prospect(s).
    Hal doesn’t want to waste money and prospects esp when pitchers don’t come with guarantees.

  273. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    So, we’re getting Brandon McCarthy; can he still pitch? Used to like watching him a few years ago, but haven’t really seen him pitch in a while.

    Hope everyone had a happy 4th!

  274. Hankflorida July 6th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Price and Tanaka actually give the team a chance to go far in play-offs this year and next…no other pick-up available on market does that. No other pick-up saves their bullpen

    Bojo, I think that you hit on Cashman’s vision of a small ball team with dominant starting and relief pitching when he dismantled the Bronx Bombers. With Price and Tanaka, the Yankees would have a chance for playing in October but it may not come to pass. There is no doubt that Cashman will continue to transform this team to one that is known for pitching, speed and defense. I will never buy into this type of small ball team for the computer age of baseball as to me, it is “Back to the Future” and the ” Dead Ball Era.”

  275. bigdan22 July 6th, 2014 at 11:12 am

    From RAB:

    “. . .Even if you think the Yankees won’t contend and have no business being buyers, they still need some kind of veteran innings eater to take some pressure off Betances and Adam Warren. Those two are already starting to show signs of being overworked and the Yankees need to scale back on their workload in the coming weeks.”

    ——-

    This is a good point for Axisa. The Yanks do need another arm just to protect Betances and Warren. And I’d add, just to prevent the team from falling below .500, which I think is where they are heading now and have been heading.

    A transition Yankee team is difficult for the fan base to accept. At least if the team plays .500 they will at least appear to stay in a playoff hunt. And the last thing this team should be doing in a transition year is hurting Betances and Warren. These guys are a big part of the team’s future.

  276. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    And giving up Nuno only?

  277. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:13 am

    MTU

    Castro makes a lot of errors at SS, right?

  278. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Mark Feinsand ? @FeinsandNYDN

    Confirmed Yankees’ trade of Vidal Nuno to Arizona for Brandon McCarthy.

  279. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    McCarthy sucks.

    No thanks.

    Perfect example of who we shouldn’t be going after.

    Another band aid.

  280. UnKnown July 6th, 2014 at 11:14 am

    I think McCarthy is a twitter addict. :grin:

  281. UnKnown July 6th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    If it’s Nuno only it is completely fine.

  282. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    Ys

    Yes happy, would be more happy (happier) if Yankees weren’t 12 out if 15 in the AL with runs scored.

    Would be most happy (happiest) if the Yankees were dominating the league, with the best rotation, a circular offense, and some great minor leaguers that were going to seamlessly step in to take over from players retiring and leaving via free agency .

  283. Your Name Here July 6th, 2014 at 11:15 am

    McCarthyism is upon us….

  284. SweetSpot July 6th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    I am not one who thinks Betances is untouchable. The deal with Castro is this in my opinion. You have a 24 year old shortstop who if he fulfills his potential could solidify us at that position for the next ten years. He could be great. But to date, Castro has only performed at “a slightly above-average” level. The potential is there; the question is do you take that chance.

  285. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Now that trade is just fine.

    Nothing for Nothing.

    Actually, I’d say we made out on that one.

    :)

  286. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Mick-

    His bat is better than his glove but his D is adequate.

    He can Man 3b or SS.

  287. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 11:17 am

    McCarthy sucks.
    ———-

    Ditto. Fly ball pitcher.

    Not even a bandaid

  288. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    SS-

    Neither do I but we are in a very small minority on that one.

  289. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    McCarthy is a riot and smart as a whip. I wish that translated to his pitching. Once upon a time he was plenty good. No great loss in Nuno though. Yeah, well band aids are what we do and big ace bandages that unravel. Just as long as we don’t waste players like Severino for dumpsters…

  290. Villa Nova-Ya July 6th, 2014 at 11:18 am

    Not getting that deal. At all.

  291. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Is this McCarthy deal the one that was mentioned as a “minor” deal last night?

  292. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:19 am

    YT-

    BM will eat more innings than Nuno.

    That is about it.

  293. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Well, we seem to like fly ball pitchers in Yankee Stadium… And no offense. Maybe we are confused as to what stadium we play in? :)

  294. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    McCarthy, 30, has a 5.01 ERA with 7.6 K/9 – a career best if it holds – and 1.6 BB/9 through 18 starts this season. While the 5+ ERA isn’t particularly attractive, advanced metrics such as McCarthy’s 2.89 xFIP indicate that he has been much better than that would indicate.

    Well just have to see about that.

  295. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:20 am

    Well , McCarthy averages 6 innings per start.
    That means he has gone 7 a few times, I guess.

  296. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    encarnacion had to be helped off the field and said he felt a pop in his quad yesterday.

    so far they are calling it a strain….

  297. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Villa-

    Nuno has no value. BM a little.

    Eats innings.

    And we need innings eaten at this point.

    Like lukewarm mashed potatoes.

    ;)

  298. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Well, we seem to like fly ball pitchers in Yankee Stadium… And no offense.

    YF-

    Good morning. Did you mean we also like having no offense? :)

  299. EliasInNH July 6th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    McCarthy has a 5.01 ERA but only a 2.96 xFIP…that would suggest he is getting extremely unlucky this year and is pitching better than his ERA would indicate.

  300. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Half of his starts have gone into the 7th.

  301. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    mccarthy is a home run pitcher. no thanks

  302. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    tony larussa pushing hard to make mccarthy seem like something somebody wants…

  303. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:23 am

    Y’s-

    Too late for that. He’s ours.

    ;)

  304. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    YT, yes, LOL. It was ambiguous: I wasn’t trying not to offend. But the Yanks might be with their lack of “O” at YS ;)

  305. Villa Nova-Ya July 6th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    This trade was so Joe G didn’t have to keep answering questions about keeping Nuno in the rotation.

  306. mick July 6th, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Does this mean McCarthy goes tomorrow on his birthday?

  307. yankeefeminista July 6th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    And good morning to you too, YT.

    Oops, new thread thissa way :arrow:

  308. MTU July 6th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    New one ——->

  309. Yankee Trader July 6th, 2014 at 11:25 am

    And here’s his contract.

    2 years/$15.5M (2013-14)
    signed by Arizona as a free agent 12/7/12
    $2.5M signing bonus
    13:$4M, 14:$9M

  310. Ys Guy July 6th, 2014 at 11:26 am

    if its only nuno then i dont care. might be an upgrade even.

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    Brandon McCarthy? My reaction is for Nuno straight up; what’s the harm he couldn’t be worse. Or could he? He’s been on a steady decline the last three years. (2014 obviously is half a season)

    2012 – .324 (ERA)
    2013 – .453
    2014 – .501

    2012 – 10 (HR)
    2013 – 13
    2014 – 15

    2012 – 8 (Wins)
    2013 – 5
    2014 – 3

    2012 – 1.252 (WHIP)
    2013 – 1.348
    2014 – 1.377

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