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McCann at DH in Cleveland

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 07, 2014 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

McCannLooks like Brandon McCarthy has not yet been added to the active roster, so no move necessary to call up Shane Greene.

Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Brian McCann DH
Brian Roberts 2B
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Kelly Johnson 3B
Francisco Cervelli C

RHP Shane Greene

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153 Responses to “McCann at DH in Cleveland”

  1. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
    Chip July 7th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    They can still prioritize pitching and justify letting Robertson walk.

    Just an example:
    Instead of spending $10m/year on Robertson you save that money and couple it with what they were paying Kuroda to sign a Jon Lester and move Betances, making no money, to the closer spot.

    —-

    OK, but again, you’re taking arguably your most valuable reliever and putting him in a position to be less valuable.

    I know this reminds you of Mo-Wetteland, but again, I don’t think the comparison holds much water – especially when they sure as hell don’t have the supporting cast that they did then to make that transition.
    ———————-

    Teams just aren’t prioritizing relief pitchers and designated hitters as big money spots any more.

    At DH Ortiz, Dunn and Billy Butler are really the only big money guys at that spot.
    Closers you have five making $10M/year or more: Nathan, Kimbrel, Pap, Soriano, Jim Johnson.

    If the Yankees feel that they have live arms who can fill out a pen around Betances then, proven or not, it may make sense to them to let Robertson walk and spend the money somewhere else.

  2. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    GF –

    In fact, given the trends in baseball, it may have been easier for the Yankees to justify re-signing Wetteland and keeping Rivera, Nelson, Stanton and Mendoza behind him than it would be to re-sign Robertson.

  3. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    All of this, of course, comes with the caveat that if they decide to push Betances for the rotation then they need to re-sign Robertson.

  4. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    “Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    “This is a bad defensive club” –Cash

    harsh but true

    Duh. I mean, at least he’s honest, but it was easily predictable.

    I think everyone but BigDan thinks it could be a problem.”

    ——–

    Yep. That’s why Cashman is going out and looking for a “Big Glove” at the trade deadline lol.

    Some folks never learn.

  5. Tackelberry July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Yanks will at least extend Robertson a QO which could curtail some teams interest.

  6. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Re-post:

    This is what I got from Cashman’s interview:

    –Refs is not an option for 2b. Perhaps sometime later this year in the OF but that wouldn’t be Cashman’s first choice. There is no end to the love for Roberts in this organization.

    –He doesn’t seem optimistic at all now about landing a starter after Cubs trade. No more “rock and roll” in his demeanor. He said market is real thin. He seems more inclined now to look inside if that’s believable.

    –He brought up (unprompted) Beltran’s knees, in addition to the elbow, as an injury issue. That’s why he’s getting day off today. Let’s face it, Beltran is finishing his career here as a DH.

    –Francesca must be a huge fan of Cervelli. He kept telling (not asking) Cashman “Isn’t Cervelli a starter on some teams?” Finally Cashman agreed saying he would be if he could stay healthy.

    –As far as position player help, he mentioned Almonte’s power and splits, Adonis and Perila as a “guy who could be moved around.” And Solarte.

  7. Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    There is no way Betances will go back into the rotation. That would be pretty foolish I think.

    $10mil for a closer shouldn’t be a problem for the Yankees. They have the money to sign Robertson and plug every other hole on the team.

    Also of the >$10m relievers you listed Robertson is better than all of them but Kimbrel.

  8. blake July 7th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    “–Refs is not an option for 2b. Perhaps sometime later this year in the OF but that wouldn’t be Cashman’s first choice. There is no end to the love for Roberts in this organization.”

    I’m awaiting the B Roberts extension…..they love him for some crazy reason

  9. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    It is stupid to let a player walk. If Robertson is not going to be signed, trade him since they won’t have the nerve to tender him at $14M.

    —-

    That’s how I see it. Either resign Robertson or trade him before the deadline.

    Letting him walk for jack and sh!t in return would almost be as asinine as letting Cano walk for the same.

  10. Tackelberry July 7th, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Part of Cash’s comment about piching market being thin could be him not wanting to sound desperate, which a lot of clubs think he is with Sabathia now being out for year. He is playing it coy. Still 3 weeks left til trade deadline

  11. Tackelberry July 7th, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    Wonder what White Sox would want for Jon Danks.

  12. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    The Phillies just need to keep losing.

    They have been very obliging of late.

  13. blake July 7th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    The prices make Cashman want to curl up into a ball in the corner

  14. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Rather have Miley than Danks.

  15. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    MTU,

    From all the Cashman reports it sure sounds like McCarthy was his “heavy TD lifting”. Whew, how does he do it?

    It amazes me when Cashman bashes the defense that he intentionally put on the field. Exactly, who is worse than expected defensively?

  16. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Part of Cash’s comment about piching market being thin could be him not wanting to sound desperate, which a lot of clubs think he is with Sabathia now being out for year. He is playing it coy. Still 3 weeks left til trade deadline

    —–

    That could be true. But there was absolute no “rock and roll” swagger in his voice like before the Cubs trade. My take is, he thought he had a real shot at swinging a deal with Theo and it didn’t happen and there just isn’t anything else out there he’s close to. I don’t think Price is even a consideration.

  17. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Mac-

    And all this time I thought he was a Big Game hunter.

    No accountability in Yankee Land.

    That’s Hal’s fault.

  18. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Yep. That’s why Cashman is going out and looking for a “Big Glove” at the trade deadline lol.

    Some folks never learn.

    —–

    Nope, they want starting pitching, which isn’t even their biggest need (it’s been offense since Day 1).

    Hard to take a guy seriously when he continues to insist that defense doesn’t matter.

  19. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Cashman should take Amaro out to dinner.

  20. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Or chow down w Tony L.

  21. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm
    There is no way Betances will go back into the rotation. That would be pretty foolish I think.

    $10mil for a closer shouldn’t be a problem for the Yankees. They have the money to sign Robertson and plug every other hole on the team.

    Also of the >$10m relievers you listed Robertson is better than all of them but Kimbrel.
    ———————————-

    I’m not sure why it would be foolish – I don’t know if it would work out – but by the end of the season he’ll have about 100 innings and with CC likely done and Nova not coming back until mid season there’s no harm in looking at Betances as a potential starter in Spring Training.

    Robertson is better than all of them, but the point is that teams just aren’t giving that kind of money to relief pitchers. Those five contracts represent the total relievers who were signed for more than $10 m/year since the winter prior to the 2012 season. That’s 5 guys over the course of 2 years who got more than $10 mil.

  22. mick July 7th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Patrick-

    You’re better than me.

    I can’t remember what I said a day ago.
    ========================
    MTU
    You said you would lend me $1m.

  23. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Chip July 7th, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    GF –

    In fact, given the trends in baseball, it may have been easier for the Yankees to justify re-signing Wetteland and keeping Rivera, Nelson, Stanton and Mendoza behind him than it would be to re-sign Robertson.

    —-

    Not really.

    They had a few other relievers who could get hitters out with or without Wettelend. Right now, if they let Robertson walk, they’d have one or two.

    Hell, right now they don’t even have a lefty who can be relied on to get important outs.

  24. Missing Cano July 7th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    to quote Norman Dale: “This is your team!”

  25. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Cashman is not going to go on Mike Francesa’s radio show and say what he really believes about the trade market, FA market, prospects within his organization – it does him no benefit.

  26. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Tackel,

    I have liked Danks in the past, but his velocity has significantly dropped. It is now Nuno range. I wouldn’t go there.

  27. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Hell, right now they don’t even have a lefty who can be relied on to get important outs.
    ———————–

    I know that wasn’t the point – but that’s not going to be changed by having D-Rob closing or not.

  28. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    You glove for show and you hit and pitch for dough. Defense is like 10th on the Yanks’ list of needs now. Behind, off the top my head, better average hitters, better power hitters, better left-handed power hitters, better hitting with RISP, a deeper bullpen, better starters, or at least starters who can go deeper, more left-handed starters. . . .

    Defense was not a priority when this team was built in the offseason. And it still is not. And maybe if the team hit and pitched better it would be. But right now, there’s just so many more important things.

  29. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
    Tackel,

    I have liked Danks in the past, but his velocity has significantly dropped. It is now Nuno range. I wouldn’t go there.
    ——————-

    You don’t need velocity if you know how to pitch – Mark Burhle, Jamie Moyer, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux.

  30. mick July 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Didn’t Aroldis Chapman say he’d rather relieve?
    Even if Betances once said he’d rather start,(more money in it, of course) his mind might have changed with his success and AllStar status.

  31. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Mick-

    I was hoping you would do the same for me.

  32. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    MTU,

    Even the Phil’s now know they are out of it, but they are not in a market to throw away the next few years. I think they would move Lee, but they wouldn’t trade him just for money relief. They would prefer to pay some of his salary for good prospects. Hamels is their future. I don’t think he goes anywhere.

    Offensively, they look just like us. Old and unproductive. Nothing there for me.

  33. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Mac-

    I want Hamels.

    They need to keep losing.

  34. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
    austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    It is stupid to let a player walk. If Robertson is not going to be signed, trade him since they won’t have the nerve to tender him at $14M.

    —-

    That’s how I see it. Either resign Robertson or trade him before the deadline.

    Letting him walk for jack and sh!t in return would almost be as asinine as letting Cano walk for the same.
    ——————————

    Given the odds of this team making the playoffs, I would see what Robertson’s trade market is. But again, relief pitchers are the new inefficiency – teams don’t want to give up a lot for them. Not when they can take a AAA starter prospect and move him into the pen.

  35. mick July 7th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    Why is Beltran sitting for McCann?
    Day of rest? From what?

  36. Tyler July 7th, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    I like that Roberts has been hitting recently but I’m almost worried that if he finishes around .260 (he’s at .247 now), the Yanks will re-sign him. I haven’t seen Refsnyder play 2B (think he was in the OF when I saw him at the CWS) so I am not against giving him more time to develop his defense but he wouldn’t be replacing Roberto Alomar out there. I’d give Roberts a little more time to ride out this nice streak and then it would be Refsnyder.

  37. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    “Cashman is not going to go on Mike Francesa’s radio show and say what he really believes about the trade market, FA market, prospects within his organization – it does him no benefit.”

    —–

    Except for the fact that in the past, Cashman and Hal are often ridiculously candid in their public statements.

    There’s been a real change in Cashman’s demeanor since the Cubs trade and I don’t believe that’s accident. I brought up this point before. Folks in the Yanks FO are not good poker players. Never have been.

  38. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Chip,

    A few pitches can succeed with little velocity. Most of the ones without it are working in Indy ball. It is a silly, tired argument that some can succeed without velocity. It’s the same argument folks made about CC. Velocity matters and it matters a lot.

    Danks is not exactly pitching lights out with his 88 mph fastball. But, hey, Nuno could also succeed, I suppose.

  39. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Maybe KJ is next ?

    Steve said the Jays are interested in him.

    Pirela for KJ.

  40. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Why is Beltran sitting for McCann?
    Day of rest? From what?

    —–

    According to Cashman, knees.

  41. mick July 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Beltran’s knees are hurting?

  42. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    You glove for show and you hit and pitch for dough. Defense is like 10th on the Yanks’ list of needs now. Behind, off the top my head, better average hitters, better power hitters, better left-handed power hitters, better hitting with RISP, a deeper bullpen, better starters, or at least starters who can go deeper, more left-handed starters. . . .

    Defense was not a priority when this team was built in the offseason. And it still is not. And maybe if the team hit and pitched better it would be. But right now, there’s just so many more important things.

    —–

    And you’ve been misrepresenting our argument regarding defense all season so why would anyone expect anything different from you now?

    Nobody has ever argued that defense was more important than offense or pitching. Nobody.

    That’s been your strawman since ST. People have corrected you time and time again but you obviously don’t care. Oh well, I guess that’s on you.

    Defense shouldn’t, however, be completely dismissed because bad plays and lack of range has a cumulative negative effect on the other facets of the game and do indeed make a significant difference over the course of a season.

  43. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Beltran needs more Geritol.

  44. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:12 pm
    “Cashman is not going to go on Mike Francesa’s radio show and say what he really believes about the trade market, FA market, prospects within his organization – it does him no benefit.”

    —–

    Except for the fact that in the past, Cashman and Hal are often ridiculously candid in their public statements.
    ———————

    There’s a difference between going on the air and saying that you aren’t comfortable with the deal you just gave Rafael Soriano and going on the air and saying “my prospects stink and I’m not sure what I can do to make a trade.”

  45. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    mick July 7th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
    Beltran’s knees are hurting?
    ———————-

    Beltran’s had knee problems for years – they’re just making sure they don’t become a problem.

  46. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    “. . . do indeed make a significant difference over the course of a season.”

    ——

    That’s the argument I’ve been making from day one. On a major league level, it does not significantly impact winning percentage. And, moreover, folks fixated on defense, especially infield defense, miss the factors that actually do impact the results, like hitting and pitching.

    [smell of straw burning]

  47. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    “saying “my prospects stink and I’m not sure what I can do to make a trade.””

    —–

    If you consider his interview in his entirety, that’s exactly what he said. He admitted he didn’t have the kind of prospect that Oakland had and that’s why the Yanks came in second with the Cubs. He admitted he didn’t have impact hitters in the minors ready to help a big league club.

    Once again, Cash being very candid.

  48. chicken little July 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    cashman’s problem with trades is he seems a bit gun shy at making a “splashy trade.” not sure this is a good thing or bad thing, but it seems he is afraid to trade anything of substance out of fear he may get burned.

  49. Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    I’m not sure why it would be foolish – I don’t know if it would work out – but by the end of the season he’ll have about 100 innings and with CC likely done and Nova not coming back until mid season there’s no harm in looking at Betances as a potential starter in Spring Training.

    It would be foolish because he was tried as a starter for 5 years with little success. He doesn’t have the command necessary to succeed as a starter. He’s the most valuable reliever in the league, there is no reason to mess with that.

    And regarding the reliever paid more than $10 mil … Yes there are very few, but Robertson will get that kind of money from SOMEONE why not the Yankees – his home team and the richest team in the league.

  50. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:13 pm
    Chip,

    A few pitches can succeed with little velocity. Most of the ones without it are working in Indy ball. It is a silly, tired argument that some can succeed without velocity. It’s the same argument folks made about CC. Velocity matters and it matters a lot.

    Danks is not exactly pitching lights out with his 88 mph fastball. But, hey, Nuno could also succeed, I suppose.
    —————–

    I’m just saying Jim Kaat is right – sometimes we get hung up too much on the radar gun. Having 98 in your back pocket can cover up for a lot of bad pitching, but it’s the guys who know how to pitch, El Duque, Wells, Key, Mussina, Cone, Glavine, Buhrle, Andy, Moyer, etc…who can last in the league when their fastball leaves them.

  51. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    “Beltran’s had knee problems for years – they’re just making sure they don’t become a problem”

    —-

    That may be true, but that’s not what Cashman said. All Cashman said was it was his knees that was keeping him out of the lineup tonight. He didn’t say this was precautionary.

  52. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
    “saying “my prospects stink and I’m not sure what I can do to make a trade.””

    —–

    If you consider his interview in his entirety, that’s exactly what he said. He admitted he didn’t have the kind of prospect that Oakland had and that’s why the Yanks came in second with the Cubs.
    ——————-

    That’s not what he said. What he said was that Theo told him flat out he had his eye on one guy and if he could get that guy it would be hard to match. When that guy is Addison Russell, one of the top 5 prospects in baseball, yeah, it’s going to be hard to match when he’s offered up.

  53. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
    I’m not sure why it would be foolish – I don’t know if it would work out – but by the end of the season he’ll have about 100 innings and with CC likely done and Nova not coming back until mid season there’s no harm in looking at Betances as a potential starter in Spring Training.

    It would be foolish because he was tried as a starter for 5 years with little success. He doesn’t have the command necessary to succeed as a starter. He’s the most valuable reliever in the league, there is no reason to mess with that.

    And regarding the reliever paid more than $10 mil … Yes there are very few, but Robertson will get that kind of money from SOMEONE why not the Yankees – his home team and the richest team in the league.
    ———————-

    Look, there’s no one here who can argue I’m one of the Betances must start shippers. I’m just saying that based on their needs and his work this season they have options. Cashman has said that part of the thought process that went into moving him to the pen was based on service time concerns. He has new mechanics than he did a couple of years ago and if they don’t like what they see in spring training – no harm, no foul, he’s back in the pen.

    I’m also not opposed to re-signing Robertson. I do think the Yankees are going to continue their big spending this coming offseason, but having said that – they extended Gardner and made no overtures towards D-Rob…that again signals to me that they’re keeping their options open.

  54. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    I think Chip is correct that Cashman thought he could make a deal with the Cubs. Now, that option is lost and so is he.

    No impact minor leaguers for trade and none to significantly help the team. Cashman, do you think you might ever accept responsibility for that. He acts as if it is just one of those crazy quirks of fate.

    It doesn’t help a negotiating position with a team to say there are few players available. It would make more sense to exaggerate the teams you are talking to. He’s got nothing happening. It seems beyond his thought capacity to think maybe look for offense if pitching is unavailable.

  55. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    “. . . do indeed make a significant difference over the course of a season.”

    ——

    That’s the argument I’ve been making from day one. On a major league level, it does not significantly impact winning percentage.

    —-

    Sure it does. But it depends how you define “significant.” 1-2 games? 3-4 games? 5-6 games?

    In a division this weak, 4-5 games can absolutely make a “significant” difference in the final standings.

  56. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Chip,

    When you have always thrown 91-92 and then it goes to 88 that is a huge problem amply seen with CC. A few transition successfully. A very few.

  57. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Mike -

    Found your lefty….lol.

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal
    #Athletics designate LHP Brad Mills for assignment. Went six innings in two of his three starts, 4.41 ERA in 16 1/3 IP overall.

  58. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    That’s not what he said. What he said was that Theo told him flat out he had his eye on one guy and if he could get that guy it would be hard to match. When that guy is Addison Russell, one of the top 5 prospects in baseball, yeah, it’s going to be hard to match when he’s offered up.

    ——-

    What he said was the Yanks didn’t have the prospects that his competitor had to get the players that he wanted.

    Of course he didn’t say his prospects “stink.” That’s not an adjective in a GM’s vocabulary. But he did candidly admit that his prospects weren’t good enough. That’s Cash being candid. And that’s not the only time he and other Yankee FO officials have told us exactly what the situation is.

    There’s no question in my mind his demeanor has changed since the Cubs trade. When he used the phrase “rock and roll,” he either intentionally or unintentionally built up expectations that the Yanks would make a trade. This interview was the exact opposite. Cashman is trying to reduce expectations regarding a major trade.

  59. G. Love July 7th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    wanzies,

    No joke. They should sign Mills. They need depth unless they are making more deals.

    At this point I’d settle for Paul Byrd coming out of retirement so we can listen to Key talk about how he looks Kelsey Grammar all game.

  60. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Steve-

    How soon can we get him.

    :)

  61. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    No doubt defensive metrics leave something to be desired, but they show according to our resident guru, JF, a very large difference in the number of outs on a batted ball from our defense compared to a good one. It matters. It is the equivalent of many points on a team batting average.

    I don’t disagree with the idea that even if we were good defensively we would still struggle because we just don’t score enough. We solved that by releasing Soriano to have him replaced by Greene so Ichirp can play every game. I know, I know, they will bring eventually bring someone up. But, will he play?

  62. G. Love July 7th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Sounds like Brian Roberts is getting one of those 7 year 150 million extension any moment now.

    He’s in the inner circle God help us.

  63. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I should have left the LOL off….

    When he opted out earlier this year, there were rumblings that the Yankees had interest.

    Maybe again.

  64. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    “Sure it does. But it depends how you define “significant.” 1-2 games? 3-4 games? 5-6 games?

    In a division this weak, 4-5 games can absolutely make a “significant” difference in the final standings.”

    ——

    Hmm. Sounds like a genuine disagreement here. Strawman anyone?

    When it comes to defense, “there’s a whole lotta netting going on.” Because of the intense number of variables and random factors (such as when misplays take place) and the complexity of the baseball system, it’s impossible to put a number on how wins or losses defense accounts for. One thing is very certain though, compared to hitting and pitching, it’s impact is marginal on game results.

  65. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Mills last threw on July 1, so he’d be rested enough to pitch on Thursday….

  66. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Steve-

    I would have preferred Anderson but Colorado has him now.

  67. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    MTU,

    I expect Cashman not having enough chips for Samardzija means the same for Hamels.

  68. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    “No doubt defensive metrics leave something to be desired, but they show according to our resident guru, JF, a very large difference in the number of outs on a batted ball”

    —–

    Do defensive metrics take into account “hard batted balls?” I saw a reference maybe three weeks ago to that measurement. I think the Yanks were about 25th or 26th in baseball in giving up hard batted balls. I’m pretty sure the harder a ball is hit, the less likely it turns into outs.

    There is so much wrong with defensive metrics that it’s hard to know where to begin. You have third baseman now playing RF.

  69. Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    I still think Cashman will make another trade or two. I’m thinking Chase Headley and Ian Kennedy for some kind of package. I know Headley has been bad and Kennedy is the epitome of an NL pitcher BUT i think they could help the team. Headley has been somewhat unlucky with his BA on balls in play so there is some indication he will get better. Kennedy’s peripherals all look pretty good, at the very least he’s an upgrade over Whitley. Also, they key, is that I don’t think either guy would cost much at all to acquire.

  70. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    mac -

    Completely opposite scenarios.

    Steve

  71. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Mac-

    Probably not but I’d love to give it a shot.

  72. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Headley is playing w a herniated disc.

  73. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Patrick -

    Good post. You are right on the money.

    To expound… Headley would be worth about a B- guy, same with Kennedy.

    Steve

  74. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    FWIW, don’t waste your time trying to guess what Cashman and the Yankees are going to do.

    None of you know. And you won’t.

    The Yankees are in info lockdown now. Ask yourself the last time the media had any clues about pending trades.

    Doesn’t happen. Won’t happen.

    Steve

  75. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Steve-

    But that is where YOU come in.

  76. Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    “Carlos Beltran out of Yankees lineup with swelling in right knee. He will be seen by a doctor later today.”

    Wow Cashman REALLY undersold that one in the big Mike interview

  77. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    What is w all these knees ?

    :(

  78. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Mike -

    I post what I can, but have to respectful of the process.

    And not for nothing, what media type had a “leak” on the McCarthy trade?

    No one.

    Lockdown.

    Steve

  79. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Pat M. needs to get out on the golf course more too.

  80. Patrick July 7th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I post what I can, but have to respectful of the process.

    And not for nothing, what media type had a “leak” on the McCarthy trade?

    No one.

    Lockdown.

    The Yankees are usually pretty good about not leaking stuff. Unlike some other teams in this town …

  81. mick July 7th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I didn’t hear Cash talk about Beltran in the interview but when I saw the lineup that jumped out at me.
    I know he has bad knees but as a DH that should relieve things and an Advil would help.
    Maybe he’s just been on base too much?

  82. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I understand Steve.

    I was just joshing you.

  83. blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    To expound… Headley would be worth about a B- guy, same with Kennedy.”

    I think he’s worth that…..he’s ways a 2nd half guy and he’d certainly have to feel good about getting out of Petco…..unless his medicals are just a total mess Id take a gamble on him

  84. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Steve-

    Let’s trade KJ to the Jays and bring in Headley.

  85. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Cashman said another thing pretty interesting. He said the team was “tight” and it was evident in a low BA with RISP. He said in those situations, the hitters were expanding their strike zones. Trying to do too much.

    The Yanks are dead last in the American League in scoring at home. Why is that? When has any Yankee team been successful while not scoring at least above average at home?

    I think this team is tight. In many ways.

  86. mick July 7th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Maybe this team just can’t adjust to playing in NY..

  87. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Blake-

    He has a herniated disc.

    Probably getting shot up to keep him going.

    Usually a temporary fix.

  88. RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    The $189M effort or lack thereof has kind of put the Yanks behind the 8-ball. The miLB Yanks are not truly ready to rely on yet and the Yanks have very few trade chips.

    Some trade chips are in order:
    (1.) betances
    (2.) Gardner
    (3.) Robertson
    (4.) Gary Sanchez
    (5.) Murphy
    (6.) Cervelli or other lower miLBers

  89. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    Sanchez and J-Ram are definite trade chips.

    And I’d throw in Heathcott for free.

    Just cart him off.

  90. bigdan22 July 7th, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    ‘“Carlos Beltran out of Yankees lineup with swelling in right knee. He will be seen by a doctor later today.”

    ——

    I don’t see how you can see him as an OF option going forward.

  91. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Maybe we get a discount if we send CC and Beltran together to Andrews ?

  92. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    dan -

    Playing in NY is a huge adjustment.

    If you remember, the old-timers that I talked to commented on how tight the team was; and that they lacked “energy”.

    Just like chemistry, winning cures all, but it can be a catch-22 sometimes.

    Steve

  93. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    They must have used a special glue to keep Roberts on the filed this long.

  94. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    sp: field

  95. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    blake -

    FWIW, since Headley is not only injured, but a crap-shoot, it’s likely that one of the Yankees’ injured B type OF prospects would get it done. It might take the infamous PTBNL as well.

    Steve

  96. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN 18m
    Carlos Beltran not in lineup, right knee swelled a little after Sunday’s game, felt it last at-bat.

  97. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    One more dan-ism….

    We talked about this roadtrip being the target for change.

    These roster adjustments are much more seamless on the road, as opposed to “in the bright lights of NY”.

    Steve

  98. astrocityfan July 7th, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    i dont understand why wheeler isnt starting. Just get him in there and see what he can do. Also use this knee thing to put Beltran on the dl, fix his elbow and call up some young guys to take his abs. Get roller up so he can dh and backup tex.

  99. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:02 pm
    To expound… Headley would be worth about a B- guy, same with Kennedy.”

    I think he’s worth that…..he’s ways a 2nd half guy and he’d certainly have to feel good about getting out of Petco…..unless his medicals are just a total mess Id take a gamble on him
    ————————

    Headley is the same kind of acquisition that McCarthy is – a guy who has a reputation for being good – hasn’t been good recently and is an impending FA that you may want to re-sign depending on what you see. The reason you’re getting him isn’t that you think he’s a guy who instantly makes you better, but more that he doesn’t cost you much and you get a two month look at him to decide if you want to sign him after the season.

    If you could get Headley for say Zoilo Almonte – then sure, there’s really no downside to doing it.

  100. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Chip -

    I don’t think you’d have to give up Almonte.

    I think Heathcott or Austin + PTBNL would do it.

    Steve

  101. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Jays are interested in Headley too.

    But we should send them KJ instead.

  102. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Austin has a bad wrist and Heathcott has a bad everything.

    So yes, either one.

  103. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    And you can start to put J-Ram in that category.

    Very talented but made of glass.

  104. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Chad Jennings July 7th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    Thank you for your consideration in replying.

    I would only say that I have known Trisha for over 13 years, and I have always found her to be the most kind and honest person. If she had trouble with anyone, she would not be one to take up another identity to post against them. She would confront them directly and strongly state her point of view. Stooping to hiding behind a false identity is not her style.

    I also know that Trisha is a mature professional who would not lie about her actions. She is a person of integrity who does not give her word lightly.

    I also know that it is possible to create a fake IP address and post from it.

    So while I respect the knowledge of your office and their policies, i would submit that the best indicator of her behavior is that unlike many here, she did not create another bogus IP address and return under a slight variation of her name. She respected your decision, even though she knows in her heart that she was wronged by someone who sought to damage her reputation.

    As a loyal friend to her, I would ask you to reconsider based on her actions since then (in not coming back) and also based on how much she brought to the forum. She was always enthusiastic in her support of the blog, and always someone who went out of her way to help other bloggers whenever they needed a hand.

    Thanks in advance for your consideration of this request.

  105. Chip July 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Heatchott is injured and Austin has very little value at this point and won’t have any until he starts hitting again.

    In Almonte you’re offering up a guy who has shown he at least has 4th OF ability at the major league level.

  106. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Chip -

    Not debating… giving you outside input.

    No need for Almonte.

    He can go to Philly.

    Steve

  107. blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    “FWIW, since Headley is not only injured, but a crap-shoot, it’s likely that one of the Yankees’ injured B type OF prospects would get it done. It might take the infamous PTBNL as well.”

    Yea I think the upside is probably worth what they’d have to give up

  108. blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Id rather keep Austin than Almonte I think…..Austin has been hurt but he’s got more offensive upside IMO if he could ever stay healthy. Almonte is basically developed already and is a tweener for me…..

  109. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    blake July 7th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
    “–Refs is not an option for 2b. Perhaps sometime later this year in the OF but that wouldn’t be Cashman’s first choice. There is no end to the love for Roberts in this organization.”

    I’m awaiting the B Roberts extension…..they love him for some crazy reason
    —-
    It’s his cute ears…he looks like a gnome.

  110. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Steve-

    I’d like to ask what you are hearing about Pineda.

    There was an opinion given ( I forget who now) that he is on thin ice in the sense that if he cannot come back healthy this next time the Yankees might be ready to give up on him.

    Is there any truth to that POV from what you have heard ?

    TIA

  111. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    These roster adjustments are much more seamless on the road, as opposed to “in the bright lights of NY”.

    —–

    Some people may make that argument but I don’t buy it for a minute.

    Guys like Beltran and Ellsbury are used to the spotlight and playing in NY obviously hasn’t effected Tanaka in the least. Soriano played in NY and it didn’t bother him last season.

    Dumpster dives like Johnson and Roberts are going to suck in any market. Jeter is 40 yrs old and has owned NY since his rookie season.

    The only guy who hasn’t played in this kind of market before is McCann and his struggles certainly don’t account for all of the offense’s struggles this season.

  112. RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 5:24 pm
    Chad Jennings July 7th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    I totally concur with BoJo’s statement above! I too know Trisha personally. Everyone who has been here a year or more knows that CR-nine has hacked many folks on here & is very capable of copying an IP address. He used the lower case L & upper case i to use her account before as well. While I still talk with Trisha via phone or e-mail she is missed here along with a long line of others who were dealt with similar issues and left on their own because of it.

    I think Trisha has the utmost integrity. She is a lawyer & she uses her skills for the less fortunate. I miss her here along with the long line of others that I inferred.

  113. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    blake -

    Doesn’t matter which OF has to go… none of them are going to play in NY anyway. They are just chips.

    MTU – WADR, the Yankees are not giving up on Pineda. He’s an inexpensive asset.

    Steve

  114. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Some people may make that argument but I don’t buy it for a minute.

    GF -

    Sorry, but you couldn’t be more mistaken if you tried. Ask Gossage. Ask Tino.

    They pointed out this very phenomena over OTD.

    The players know playing for the NYY is special. And there is a lot of pressure.

    Steve

  115. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Steve-

    Here is the opinion to which I was referring:

    http://www.sportsmedia101.com/.....on-report/

  116. austinmac July 7th, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Chad,

    I have had many disagreements with Trisha, and she could be hard headed. However, she was direct and candid, never reporting to cheap shots. I came to like her. I would be shocked if she did any skulduggery.

    We need all the fans we can get. I would vote to have her return.

  117. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Mike -

    Um… no.

    Steve

  118. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    You can count me in on Trisha too.

    And Randy.

  119. blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    “Doesn’t matter which OF has to go… none of them are going to play in NY anyway. They are just chips.”

    Agree

  120. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Thanks Steve.

  121. blake July 7th, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Yea there is no way they are non tendering Pineda…..too much upside still and he’s still relatively cheap

  122. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    I bet they are getting tired of certain things w him.

    But yes, he is cheap right now.

  123. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I bet they are getting tired of certain things w him.

    Mike -

    Such as?

    Steve

  124. tomingeorgia July 7th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I want Trisha back. too. A real fan, She isn’t evil, ever.

  125. bruceb July 7th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I have had many run-ins with Trisha over the years; she is the eternal optimist and I am the perennial pessimist so our viewpoints often clash.

    I have also had email correspondence with her and always found her to be direct and courteous.

    It must kill her not being able to interact with her fellow Yankee fans on this blog.

    I would be very surprised if she did indeed create another user ID to post on this blog. But, even if she did, I don’t see how that constitutes a ban. There are many more heinous crimes committed here on a regular basis.

    I too support a move to ask Chad to reinstate her.

  126. bruceb July 7th, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Beat me to it, Mac!

  127. RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Chad Jennings July 7th, 2014 at 10:07 am

    BTW,
    CR-nine (Michael) has called me from time to time. He has never done anything to me personally that I know of but he has even expressed to me his actions against others at times. When he calls me he always has a different phone number, LOL, like Wal-mart or some other company that of course is not him or even from those companies as he uses spoof numbers.

    He is quite talented that way and he has an abundance of aliases he uses here. I might add Micahel is quite knowledgeable about the Yankees & computers & hacking!

  128. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Steve-

    He does not seem to be the sharpest blade in the drawer.

    DUI, Pinetar.

    Add to that he has not been able to stay healthy.

    Labrum’s have a very poor prognosis to begin with.

    I do not deny that the talent is there.

    I really hope he makes it back this time and just pitches w/o incident.

    We could surely use that.

  129. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Chad–

    I would to add that I have extensive first hand experience with hacking as my wife is constantly being hacked for some reason. She comes to me with the problems so I have seen how IP addresses are possible to capture and also hack.

    I think just banning that IP address is a very simplistic reply to what happened. It doesn’t really address the actions of the REAL person doing the deed.

  130. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Mike -

    WADR, those types of things don’t sour an organization.

    Lack of effort does.

    No one can criticize Pineda for his work ethic.

    Steve

  131. wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Looks like this segment of the pre-game is drifting into a different dimension.

    Back later, maybe.

  132. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Steve-

    Thanks.

    He did work very hard to get back. That’s true.

    I am just not sure his body will cooperate in the end.

    I hope so.

    He may be one of the lucky ones vis a vis Anibal Sanchez.

    Or he may not.

    Only time will tell.

    Yankees do not like to be embarrassed.

    That Pinetar thing was very embarrassing.

    He just needs to get out there and pitch I guess.

    Talent is there.

  133. Missing Cano July 7th, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Daniel Barbarisi @DanBarbarisi
    Players have told me that’s no surprise– guys talking about how they don’t want to see PEDers at AS game year after taking suspensions.

    let me take this a step further players should also not want Brian Roberts PEDer batting sixth in their lineup or on the team anymore

  134. Missing Cano July 7th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    Pineda to the pen 2015 campaign begins right here

  135. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Here’s the thing about Trisha and this argument that CR “framed” her by hacking into her account posing as someone else…..

    Even if the evidence supports that claim, that’s on Trisha.

    She knew what kind of person CR is and what kind of damage he’s caused here over the past several years but she decided to befriend and defend him anyways.

    Well, if you have a pet rattlesnake and the snake one day bites your hand and kills you – it’s your own damn fault for having a pet rattlesnake in the first place.

    So it’s ultimately her responsibility because we all know what kind of person CR is and Trisha chose to ignore that.

  136. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Brian Roberts has the third highest WAR on the team….only behind Gardner and Ellsbury…and he has been very productive in late inning close games…perhaps that is why the FO likes him.

  137. hardwired7 July 7th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    I’ll never understand how a simple baseball blog can somehow go so far off the rails. It’s just baseball. I mean, what the hell?

    It used to be so much worse before registration, but apparently there’s no way to really solve the problem.

    I can only imagine how bad it must get on political blogs…

  138. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    That btw is for regular players…not including pitchers…Tank and the Kracken are also higher.

  139. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
    Here’s the thing about Trisha and this argument that CR “framed” her by hacking into her account posing as someone else…..

    Even if the evidence supports that claim, that’s on Trisha.

    She knew what kind of person CR is and what kind of damage he’s caused here over the past several years but she decided to befriend and defend him anyways.

    Well, if you have a pet rattlesnake and the snake one day bites your hand and kills you – it’s your own damn fault for having a pet rattlesnake in the first place.

    So it’s ultimately her responsibility because we all know what kind of person CR is and Trisha chose to ignore that.
    =====
    Her religious beliefs lead her to forgive and try to help others. She sees CR as someone who needed kindness and help. It that type of “Christian” attitude seems dumb to you, fine. Many (like the Pope) would encourage it in more people.

  140. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    wanzies222 July 7th, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    GF -

    Sorry, but you couldn’t be more mistaken if you tried. Ask Gossage. Ask Tino.

    They pointed out this very phenomena over OTD.

    The players know playing for the NYY is special. And there is a lot of pressure.

    —–

    So you’re saying that guys who are used to the spotlight of NY are now suddenly falling victim to the bright lights?

    Maybe they can’t score because the FO downplayed the importance of offense.

    Aside from McCann, that’s not exactly a strong argument. There are guys in this lineup who would struggle in any market because they just aren’t very good or are past their prime.

    It was obvious this team was going to have issues scoring runs before Opening Day.

  141. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Her religious beliefs lead her to forgive and try to help others. She sees CR as someone who needed kindness and help. It that type of “Christian” attitude seems dumb to you, fine. Many (like the Pope) would encourage it in more people.

    —–

    Well, then apparently her religious beliefs hung her out to dry on this one.

    She knew what he was and the damage he’s caused when she befriended him. Sucks for her but so predictable that he allegedly turned on her.

  142. RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    I understand what you are saying, but Trisha was a friend to CR before she knew what CR was doing. She treats everyone the same upfront until found otherwise, but she doesn’t deserve to be banned because LoHud doesn’t know enough to stop CR!

  143. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Also in 52 high leverage situations, Roberts line is .348 .404 .457 .860, so there may be a strong fan base on the return the Yankees are getting for a $2M investment.

  144. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Meant FO fan base

  145. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    I understand what you are saying, but Trisha was a friend to CR before she knew what CR was doing.

    —–

    Look, I get that you are her friend and you are defending her. Good for you.

    But it’s simply not true that she didn’t know what he is. She absolutely knew because she defending him many times in here when others wondered why the hell she would defend the indefensible.

    It was discussed here MANY times but she defended him anyways.

  146. RayVT July 7th, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    You are quite funny & your remarks are quite simplistic! If CR ever adapts his skills to your namesake, good luck! What you don’t seem to get is CR has taken down many folks here 1 by 1 in a very personal way. I was told that LoHud had no means to figure him out. He was the reason that LoHud went to IDs here.

    I will remember your words if he does.

  147. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    But it’s simply not true that she didn’t know what he is. She absolutely knew because she defending him many times in here when others wondered why the hell she would defend the indefensible.
    ====
    Again, she is the kind of person who is loyal to someone when she takes up there cause. She stands by someone so it is no surprise she spoke up for him in an attempt to get him to change and get help.

  148. mick July 7th, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    There is a faction here that wants Trisha off as well.
    In fact they want all off who don’t subscribe to their way of seeing things.
    You can see this at work every day as they bait in hopes of the unwanted
    being banned as they fall prey.
    Of course they have a leader , by default, as their other mouthpieces have fallen.
    Eliminating these “leaders” seems to be commonplace but the problems still persist.
    I ask for a period of amnesty where all who have been banned can be reinstated
    and given a second chance.

  149. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    their cause…

  150. Giuseppe Franco July 7th, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Ray,

    It won’t happen to me because I don’t belong to any social networking sites and I never use my real name or email address to register for blogs like this one.

    I’ve clashed with him more than I can count and he’s already admitted that he’s never found anything on me.

    If he had found something, he would have done so already.

  151. BoJo July 7th, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Can’t we all just roast marshmallows around a campfire and sing “kumbaya my lord?”

  152. G. Love July 7th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Warning GF that he better watch himself? Really?

    That’s a great way to convince him and everyone else that what happened was a honest mistake.

  153. MTU July 7th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    New one ——–>

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